Obviously Tony was listening at the door, but I love how he let's others know that he did so, by being rude to Vito, and repeating Bobby's "but what do I know?" quote. Power move right there.
@@akashicman2338 No I didn't. Look at the scene. It's all right there.I don't doubt someone else in the comment section also noticed that. I just wrote out what I thought about this scene..
Tony Soprano did have a rage problem as we know and saw him show it to Phil and his ice cream cone lol. But having said that, Tony's rage didn't involve him whacking a Made Guy from New York. True, he killed Ralph in a rage, but that wasn't a death that would start a war as he simply put Vito in as Captain afterwards.
tony b killed because the leotardo pricks murdered his best friend for a political move, and he was retired by years. tony s just murdered his best earner because of a horse.
Just realized Sil used the phone call as a diversion to facilitate Tony eavesdropping on the captains and the other made men to hear what they truly thought about the situation with Tony B. That explains why he's so cold especially with Vito. Vito spoke most out of turn before Tony entered. Tony was likely at the door hiding and listening.
No, you can see that when Tony looked at Bobby, Bobby itched the left side of his nose (towards Vito), at which point Tony looks at the signal and immediately switches his gaze to Vito.
@@NewWesternFront his brother was dead before we even saw Patsy on the show. Philly was introduced first, then they created Patsy when they realized they wanted actor Dan Grimaldi back.
3:27 Sil was genuinely embarrassed of Tony. The boss of the Family has just told all of his Capos and his consigliere that they’re all at high-risk financially and physically but his junkie nephew and himself are to be in hiding. True, the boss is the boss however these guys are hungry wolves and when things don’t sound right; they’re quick to act. Sil’s reaction to Tony’s ultimatum was of genuine disappointment.
Silvio realized that Tony was going all out to protect Tony B and Christopher, because they were his blood family. And at the expense of his mob family. Sil knew that if it wasn't his cousin or nephew, Tony would have taken them out. Tony even said as much to Christopher in the hospital. After that intervention fiasco. Ironically though, Tony ended up taking both his cousin and nephew out. By his own hands. Crazy.
@Lucimyr He was being discreet except for that club bit. Pretty over the top and unrealistic writing just for the comedy, he goes to a club in NY like that, knowing NY guys collect money from there? he was supposed to be smart
That “family/love” bullsht works too. There’s always going to be folks who want to be part of a group, want to feel accepted, and want to feel valued and cared for and using that “we’re a family here” nonsense really connects with them.
Paulie sure has a high opinion of himself. He actually thinks Tony's relationship with him is actually bigger than his relationship with Chrissy and Bobby who are his actual relatives. In a way, Paulie is one of the saddest characters on this show. He has no real family (besides his aging mother), so he clings to Tony's family like a parasite, pretending he's as important to them as they are to him.
@AHALKALAKETS actually the actor that played Albert and the actor that played Larry were in trouble. I know Tony Darrow (Larry) for sure had mob ties, I think he was involved in an extortion racket with the Gambinos. Can’t remember if the guy who played Albert had mob ties though
This is one of the many times the writers used the non-word “irregardless” to make the gangsters look unintellectual in ways people see in real life. They had Chris misuse the word “infer” a lot too, in the way it’s commonly misused. Great writing
Technically “irregardless” is a word. It is defined by Oxford English Dictionary as a nonstandard adverb meaning regardless. It has been in common usage across the English speaking world for 200 years, I think we can overlook the nonsensical nature of the word itself and just take it for what it means at this point.
Sil's expressions during this scene tell the whole story. He's clearly not in agreement with what's being said or done, he also makes it clear when he's delivering money to Chris, showing distain when Chris starts complaining. Sil's expression at 2:50 almost seems like he see's the end coming.
I thought I was the only one that noticed that Sil did not say a word and I think Tony was at the door and heard Vito because his attitude towards Vito was completely different and Ray was wearing a wire cuz it just seems like he said Tony's name loud enough so the wire can pick it up
Well what do you expect? They make anybody and everybody over there. And the way that they do it, it's all fucked up. Guys don't get their finger pricked. There's no sword and gun on the table.
The subtleties, the hints, the suggestions that this series offers up in a 4 minute clip....leaves more to be dissected than most 2 hour feature films from present day. What a masterpiece
you can tell they're tired of the "family" shit in this scene. this is one of the only times where tony was trying to put his heart out and take the leadership role and they weren't feeling it because they are scared to go to war. When it comes to breaking balls they don't give a fuck and let the boss say his thing, but when it comes to the real deal, they all think for themselves. like human beings.
Morale in the Soprano family fell more and more throughout the series. Junior, being an idiot, ran the family like an ass, then Tony went to war with his own uncle, and his mom wanted him dead, and he was fainting and going to therapy. Richie disappeared, then Ralph disappeared, Tony fast-tracked his idiot, drug addicted nephew-cousin, he protected Vito, then his kid tried to kill himself, he fast-tracked his other degenerate gambler cousin, he was shot by his own senile uncle, and he makes up excuses not to visit Sil in the hospital after he brings war upon his family. Imagine being a Soprano soldier and witnessing all this? To make matters even worse, he was seen wearing shorts. 5 fuckin families, then we got this other pygmy thing in Jersey.
No. Tony is the boss, and as a boss it is his responsibility to protect his men. Him willing to put literally all of them in mortal danger over a single associate's (Tony B wasn't even made) mindless vendetta is the perfect recipe for mutiny.
For anyone unclear as to why Patsy said "Thank you, that was great." at the end.. He was making a sarcastic remark, because Tony came in and got on his soap box while the actual birthday boy sat quietly. That's my take, at least.
"that was great" was enough to be sarcastic, but Patsy also said "thank you". I'm sure that Patsy was impressed by the scene. Why he said that: who else here is able to make an reflexion? Hash? But he is guess here.
I think Patsey was genuinely moved and inspired by Tony speech and when he said thank you and that was great after Tony speech I think he was genuinely moved and inspired and speaking from the heart.
I think it was either Patsy being sarcastic and unhappy with Tony or him subtlety calling out the other ones who were sitting at the table talking shit before Tony entered and them keeping their mouth shut the entire time Tony was there instead of speaking up, seeing how Patsy always has that sarcastic sense of humor I think it is the former
Silvio, after phonecall with Tony "Tony's held up let's start without him" Literally a minute later Tony walks in. What did he call from the parking lot.
Probably making it sound like he wouldnt be there for a while so they would let their guard down and he could sneak in the room to catch what they were talking about.
@@070nino070 From Vito's reaction, I take it as no time lapse occurring even if there is a cut there. If the director wanted the viewer to sense a lapse in time, there are techniques that could have been used to do so. My sense is that Tony's entrance was meant to startle the people in the room because they had just finished up bad mouthing him behind his back. It certainly would make sense for Tony to be sneaking around to try and capture guys speaking openly. In general, a mafia boss is going to want hear what his guys are saying when he isnt around and in the current situation which Tony was in, even more so.
"What can you say about this guy? The Ancient Romans had a word for it - RAT!" Then Larry pulls out a piece and clips Ray Curto. How awesome would that be? lol
yeah it works in jersey's favour. when there's a power struggle like between little carmine/rusty against john/phil they all want jersey to be on their side. jersey can choose not to do anything or play them all.
Kiki Wiles He was a selfish psychopath. He killed a lot of people for reasons most people wouldn't feel were good enough. Chris however was saved many times due to his relation with Tony. Tony finally had enough himself and decided Chris was a liability regardless of any blood relation they had. I honestly thought killing Tony B was more cold blooded but it's just perspective I guess.
kixmgc Junkies are usually the easiest guys to flip. also Chris now had a wife and kid. Remember what Makazian said when Pussy flipped? "He's a man who love his family above all else. That's their (the feds) favorite target." Also Christopher had shown major cracks in loyalty ever since the beginning, but he usually refocused. But you can only give a junkie so many chances before they just wreak more and more havoc and you just finally have had it with them. and Tony had that thing about "poor defenseless babies" all through the series. That demolished car seat was a good enough reason in his eyes. man this show was brilliant.
Anyone else get the sense Ray thought he was about get whacked when Sil said Tony would be late? I never noticed his nervousness before now but after Sil says that you can see him tense up, if I were a rat I might think it was a setup too lol
The amount of brilliant foreshadowing in this scene is mind blowing. It’s almost as if the show was MADE ONLY to be watched a thousand times over. No complaints from me though. From Vito saying he is already getting fucked by New York and the camera going to him while tony mentions his cousin might get tortured... to Patsy’s little comment at the end for-shadowing him planning to take Tony out. Amazing. Even Them asking if Bobby thinks New York will come for him... genius
Yea, pauli saying “whose closer to him than me” he says it that New York will come kill him for that but New York use that as a way to kill Tony (pauli gets Tony whacked along with patsy)
@@mickeypopa David chase already knew the fate of the characters I mentioned when the scene was written. So he definitely was doing foreshadowing. It wasn’t allegorical buddy.
@@mickeypopa it’s brilliant because it’s not in your face. I didn’t catch this the first time I watched. Why so mad??? Did mom not make the lemonade sweet enough? We both are clearly sopranos fans… pick another enemy or jump back on whatever video games you are hooked on and find your ego’s satisfaction that way. You are one worm who felt different with the at least 180 people who liked my comment but still felt the need to bitch. Newsflash, it didn’t work to make you appear clever. People still don’t care.
Tony: Listen, I can't stay. Paulie: Oh! Sil: Mamma mia! Bobby: It's-a me! Mario! Director: Cut! Look, guys, I know the script just says "Stereotypical noises," but just...I don't know, why don't you all yell "Oh!" at different volumes? Okay, let's try it again. Action! Tony: Listen, I can't stay. All: Oh! Hesh: Oy gevalt! Director: Cut! Goddammit, Jerry, what did I just say?!
Some years ago I bought the full DVD set of this great program off of a TV commercial. Every now and then I put one of the seasons in the DVD player, sit back with my Cognac, and enjoy the greatest program ever made -- HANDS DOWN!!!
@@bradstrayer485 Sil doesn't think of Tony as an idiot. He does see him as a hypocrite who often shows nepotism for certain people even in the most fucked up situations.
Agreed. I know Van Zandt wasn't the strongest actor on the show or even classically trained, but some of his non verbal communications were incredibly nuanced and well judged
This was such a great show! I didn't want it to end. I can watch this over and over again and I still get somethings but I have to see this show just to understand what is going on. I can't wait for The Sopranos prequel The Many Saints Of Newark. The prequel to the Sopranos it shows how it all began. I wanted to go to NJ & Newark to take the Sopranos tour on my birthday many years back. I still get confused with the characters but Tony Soprano is my favorite. I like him. The Many Saints Of Newark comes out on September 23 2020 and I have to wait that long!!!
RIP James Gandlfini, you were simply great your portrayal of Tony Soprano changed the face of television for ever, now that you are gone and i still cant believe it, a lot of talent of the acting world has died as well. RIP
At 1:10 Tony pats Vito on the shoulder. It’s hard to catch as he says it quickly. But if I heard right, tony says “Vito Misto, how are ya?” - this is a VERY clever word play that I haven’t heard in years since I lived in Italy; If a guy was physically “big” like Vito, they often got a nickname that sounded like a fattening food, as a ‘joke’. (So like in English, if a big guy was called ‘Hamish’ he may get called ‘Hamish pastry’, like Danish Pastry). So ‘Vito Misto’ would be meant to refer to ‘Fritto Misto’, the fattening, Italian dish of mixed, deep-fried sea food. Pretty sure that’s where he was going. Now that’s attention to detail, one for the connoisseurs…. Or should I say, the Intenditori….
notice how Tony says he's held up and to start the party without him, yet shows up minutes later, I think he lied so the crew would think they have time to talk shit about the situation and tony would be hiding to hear it all
@@mikef6063 i duno was it a set up but he heard vito and i feel like he was staying until that,also is patsy saying that to vito at the end ?? as in thanks for getting caught saying that
I liked that even though Tony hit them with the "We are family" speech and other heavy stuff, none of them were moved. Every one of them knew it was bullshit; you could see it in their faces.
Tony making these guys suffer for the sins of a non-made guy is just insane. If he was a made guy and not Tony’s cousin, he would have been “dealt with quickly” at Tony’s orders lol
Patsi...such an overlooked and subtle character even though he more than likely played a role in Tony's demise (if he did die at the end of the show)...I never really paid much attention to him when first watching the show but upon further repeat views of episodes I always watch out for him and his sneakiness
The thumbnail to this clips always makes me think Tony is shooting someone from across the table, and the smoke from the gunshot is filling up the place.
Or course he was being sarcastic. Didn’t really fit his character though as one he’s lower end of power at that table and 2 he loved tony as Gigi said once but ya still pissed about his twin who he pretty much knows tony took out.
I wish they introduced more soldiers, i mean Ray Curto was a capo and never mentioned a made guy in his crew. The Barese crew was supposed to be the biggest crew and only showed Albert and Nick "Nicky Spags" Spagielli celebrating in background for one scene in the hospital when they heard Tony was going to make it
The Soprano family had something like over 200 soldiers, that's not counting associates, which we can assume was double that number. Do you really want them to show you every fucking guy?
Seeing this clip makes me so sad, cause i know there will never be produced more movies from this James Gandolfini, he was a fantastic actor, i remember watching his movies when younger watching his movies, i used to be so happy when i found out a James Gandolfini movie was coming on TV, or when my mother rented his movies. Rest In Peace James Gandolfini, a great actor and a teriffic human being.
Tony was listening either in back or on Sil’s phone. When he looked at Vito and said “whatever”. If you watch the seasons again and pay attention to Silvio’s movements before Tony comes around or when Tony leaves there is always a reason.
+John Butch I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that Vito took over Ralph's crew. Most of the infrastructure had probably already been put in place; Vito probably didn't have to take very much initiative.
John Butch in hindsight, no pun intended lol, Vito's dedication and earning was for the same reason he was so dedicated to publicly talking about screwing women constantly. Guilt establishes safety. Ralph did the same
Vito was not loyal, once Tony got shot and it looked as thought he was not going to recover and not even dead yet, Vito didn't even want to give Carmela her share of the money from the Puerto Rican bust. He was also already plotting his move to become the boss. Don't even get me started with that stuff with Meadows fiance.
‘The same protection for any of you’. Hold on, Chrissy, let me clog your airways, you’re still breathing. Let me protect you. There, you are now protected.
Tony was full of shit in this, but still, they all were so fucking hateful not giving a shit about a family member possibly getting tortured. Especially Sil.
@@HAL-rx5ln Because it was a pretext for Tony not doing anything about him, not a reason. Tony should have been killing him himself for what he did. Irregardless of what New York were gunna do to him.
