I disagree it’s perfectly fine to do so because you will know and understand your life better .. the unpleasant truths are nessecary even if it’s painful
@@iamchannelll if his father didn't go to oracle then his father wouldn't expel him when he was just a baby, he will grow up and become a perfect prince and perfect heir to his father crown, since he was a good kid who abandon his adoptive father kingdom just to make sure the propecy wouldn't happen and hurt his adoptive parents So yeah... Don't go to the Fortune teller
I think the Bible does that too, probably because sheep can easily be compared to the masses, and a shepherd can be considered a moral and societal leader.
Yes hector was raised by shepherds, romulus and his brothers were found by shepherds ... Etc etc ... Scholars believe it's the left over inspiration of giglameesh story where enikdu his counterpart and second main character was found and brought into the main story by shepherds ...
If Oedipus father hadn't gone to ask for the prophecy in the first place, all this wouldn't have happened. Moral of the story : don't go out searching for something you didn't lose in the first place.
don't search for something you didn't lose in the first place*... not sure when or why people always use "loose" instead of "lose" two whole separate meanings
Plus, I also feel like the oracle was in the story to express a moral. They had a choice to either keep the baby or get rid of it due to the possibility of Oedipus' father being killed. But you're right, every time they go to the oracle or prophecy, drama stirs.
nope this would still happend bcuz its Oedipu's destiny. and no matter how what you do to prevent it, it will happen that's the point of the whole story.
@@i.b.7...718 You do understand that Greek mythology aren't stories based on real events and people, right? So yes, this is a REAL STORY in that this story actually exists not on actual events...
Yes I know this is a mythological story, but has anyone else realized that the whole of it could've been prevented had noone ever sought the oracle of delphi's "wisdom"?
The point is that marrying his mother was his ultimate fate and knowing about that could not save him ... at least thats what my greek professors taught me while growing up there xd
Knowing your fate but still fighting against it while accepting the fact that you ll lose : ancient greeks's view about who's a tragic ( as in character of a tragedy the type of theatrical play ) hero ... Oedipus was one
Isn’t RU-vid the best place to learn history? It has the maps, the music, the movies, the paintings, etc. And, the best of all, it has narrators who not only understand the subjects, but also are true lovers of history!
If Oedipus had been raised the Prince and heir to the throne of Thebes as his parents intended before his father was told a Prophecy, none of this happens. The truth here is the Prophecy is self fulfilling. When we listen to them we act to avoid them which only leads to them becoming fact.
Maybe but perhaps the prophecy could have been fulfilled in a different story but same outcome. Even if Oedipus was raised by his original parents, his destiny could have been the same
@@kylasantos4081Considering this curse was put on Jocasta and Oedipus by the gods I'd say yeah. Laius did something bad and assaulted someone, then the gods gave this curse to wife and son. So I think this still would have been the outcome if they raised him.
This myth got old, the people that day didn’t know that fate can also be deceived by itself. It teaches people to accept their fate but never say how to against it. Avoiding is only delay things, in either condition you will eventually face it. Most of what happen has a link somewhere. If that link break or get cut off because people totally forget it, it can’t go to where it is.
The sad thing is that the family tragedy does not end with Oedipus but it continues with the death of his daughter by Creon uncle of Oedipus who eventually suicided after his son killed himself because he was in love with the daughter of Oedipus
@@Magical_realm_ that in a nutshell. I believe Oedipus’ 2 sons waged war to control Corinth and wind up killing each other. Antigone went against her uncle’s’ decree that no funeral rites be given (by itself that was a crime against the gods) and was punished by being buried alive in a mausoleum. Creon’s son was in love with her and arrived too late to free her because she committed suicide. He then killed himself in front of Creon and only then Creon recognize the errors of his ways.
I might be late here, but i think the reason why many greek story don't always show justices is because to teach people to believe something good in themselves, and don't believe something bad if we don't want it happens.
@@ftw_sarras2490 You're a dolt. What has Oedipus done to deserve what he befell him. Despite his righteous nature, he still met great tragedy. I know life can be unjust but you must at least sympathise with what happened to him. You're the dumb one, you lack critical thinking
@Timothy Toliver I mean, ya, good for him for keeping his word but he plunged out his eyes, (something he didn't have to do) the dude went a bit extreme. But, ya, that too I guess.
There is a fascinating back story behind the curse to the Oedipus family. Oedipus's father Laius had violated a young man whom he had been hired to protect and educate,. The god Apollo punished Laius by cursing his wife and son by this terrible prophecy.
What did he do to the young man? Clapped his cheeks or talked ill of the guys family? You can't be going saying "violated" it's meaning has changed in this era.
@@mohammadhosseini6675That's the point, ancient Greek myths portrayed the Olympian gods as petty jerks b/c they were a reflection of humanity itself. It's the belief that nothing and no one, not even the gods, is perfect.
There are multiple versions of the story. In one he abducts the young man, who later commits suicide, and in another he is abducted by Zeus, and Laius is blamed for his disappearance.
Now I know what gave rise to Oedipus and Jocasta complex (for those who don't know Oedipus complex is a psychological concept explaining the feelings of a boy towards his mother and Jocasta is feelings of a mother towards his boy )
Jason and the Argonauts: Medea (Jason's wife) murders their sons to spite him, he loses his kingdom and is crushed by his own boat (the Argo) as an old man. Cicada was a man who fell in love with a Muse. The Muse begged Zeus (her father) to make Cicada immortal, Zeus did but didn't give Cicada eternal youth. Cicada aged into a immobile husk, forced to watch his Muse wife cheat on him constantly because she didn't want to be with him anymore. Finally she turned him into a bug (a cicada) so he could at least shed his form and move around and not be her problem. Artemis was tricked into killing the only man she ever loved (Orion the hunter) by her brother Apollo in an archery contest. There's plenty more, not saying Oedipus isn't a sad story, but there's plenty of competition. Not just Medusa's.
In my country there is a popular book called 'the gods are not to be blamed' that tells this exact story. It was written by a well known author who wrote it as an original story of his.
The original riddle of the Sphinx was... what goes on four legs then two legs then three...and the further it goes the weaker it be? The answer was Man!
Oedipus was given three chances to forsake his request, he was warned of the terrible knowledge and its impact on everything yet he ignored. One thing to learn: never seek knowledge that would bring harm and learn how to let go. Some things are better if kept a secret. Also this reminds me of people who go to an extreme persuing a cause believing blindly its right. Only to be confronted by the end that they have turned into a monster and the thing that they dreaded the most when they persue it.
The fates decided humans had become too reliant on the Oracles and decided they needed to learn that sometimes the truth is to be left undisturbed. Oedipus could’ve Hakuna Matata’d his way through life as a King, but his refusal to accept not knowing was his downfall.
The meaning get once I hear the whole thing is nothing like the “oedipus complex”. Meaning: if you try to run from fate and your problems you will end up crashing headlong into it.
this used to be the story we have to roleplay back in college.. my oh my.. I was asked to be the Sphinx.. I was sooo honored, eventho I know I will die in the end
Have you noticed these stories, all of whom were conceived by kings and Gods and than tossed to the side, grew up to be beautiful, strong, handsome, and righteous.
Despite the term's origin, you have to admit, Oedipus never wanted to marry his mother of sort. He was a capable king and he did ran away because he did not want to do that with his parents, he ran because of love for them. Though he is too gullible and too impulsive for the prophecies that he had to accuse his own brother-in-law, whom was loyal to him, leading to the deaths of both his adoptive parents and his biological. But even in shame he did not shied away from responsibility, even if it took mutilating himself. He at least had his daughter accompany him until the end of his life.
poor guy.. especially the kind of hardship and the length he had gone through to evade the prophecy. wondering if had the king educate, treat and rise him right, will the prophecy still be fulfilled?
@@iquoteeverythingisay4627 Yet apparently we never learned the lesson. Look at the world today say we aren't self fulfilling the prophecies of the alleged holy books ... and those religious devotes actually do everything in their power to see it fullfilled be that by not acting but allowing things to happen, helping in purpose to have the prophecy fullfilled, or trying to restrict humanity in order to allegedly avoid it which bacfires as in the story we just heard ... We just seem to be doomed to repeat stupidity. So obsessed with reaching heaven we trample everything in our path knowing this prophecies are meant to annihilate the world ... Sad but there you have it. It's always the believers the screw things up
I don't think coz once he knew of the prophecy he distanced himself from his adopted parents fearing it. Had he been brought up properly by his birth parents, that prophecy would have remained unfulfilled since he was an intelligent n nice guy
I already knew this myth since in Italy we study a lot of greek and latin literature, simplified, since middle school books. But this work was dope and astonishing, good job
But the prophecy only happened because they tried to prevent it in the first place. Their actions of trying to change the future are actually what caused it. Oof in other words
It s more like it was destined for them to try and prevent the profecy and by that it ll cause it because nobody can change the future, u may think that u are but actually ur just walking the same way towards ur destiny
@@thatoneguy_0218 I think in oedipus's case his actions were well but no matter what, even if he made biggest sacrifice in the universe still this particular ending was deemed to be a stigma on him ...
