Tesla collaborates with Ford, GM and Rivian (and more incoming) to build cars with their charging port. Everybody wins, IMO. The podcast with Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe: • Rivian CEO, RJ Scaring... Shot on Google Pixel Fold
I don't care which standard everyone goes with so long as there _is a standard_ that's widely supported. It makes business sense for the owners of the charging network to open it up to as many customers as possible.
@@soerenbo CCS has too little chargers. That's why Teslas super chargers matter and they're better than CCS. CCS WAS the standard before Tesla opened up.
@@malikkelly Maybe in the US, but not in other markets. In the EU, where i come from, so so many chargers are CCS and even Teslas are shipped with CCS here because it is regulated. So opening up wouldn't even be a problem if Tesla adopted the one everyone else is using.
I just hope NACS becomes the “standard” fast enough to get ahead of the expansion of charging networks. That way there aren’t too many outdated chargers getting installed.
@@nilsornothing if only we had a single standard from the beginning. Instead having two standards has lead to a lot of confusion which limits EV adoption
@@iannealcole the battery has limits as to how fast in can charge. if the charger can output 500jigga watt but the battery will only take 125kw, that supercharger doesnt matter at all. also, a tesla holds like 60-100 depending which battery, the hummer holds around 350. the size difference alone is its own beast
Texas said it will require electric vehicle charging companies to include both Tesla's NACS standard as well as the CCS standard if they want to be part of a state program to electrify the state's highways using federal dollars.
I would say the big change for Ford, GM and Rivian would be that the physical design of NACS is better for the end user. The cables are lighter, easier to use and overall a better experience. That's why Ford made the change. Experience matters for customers. So this is a huge win for EVs. Now we will have to see if EA, ChargePoint and the others step up on that experience and adopt NACS / retrofit.
I assume they'll replicate the simple Tesla charging process where you just plug in and it quickly starts charging, without having to do anything to say who you are or how you're going to pay. It recognizes the car and bills the credit card on file. That would make charging easier, faster, and more reliable. But I agree the physical design of NACS is so much better.
It could be a win for everyone... as long as Tesla scales to meet the demand. As a Tesla owner, I'm terrified of a potential future where we have lineups at every charger.
This is the part that isn't a "win for everyone" and a realistic outcome. Now, Tesla not only needs to cater to their own customers... But to a lot (probably eventually all) of their competitors'.
Yeah, this is exactly what I fear. I am in France. I purchased a Tesla because of their superchargers. Here in any other EV you are basically fucked, it's hell to charge your car. If they make this available in France and I start to see lines or wait to charge, then my purchase would have been for nothing. I already fell victim to the 10% price decrease on the model 3 (bought my car, 3 months later it was 10% less from new).
@@unauthac1193 Most chargers in France are already available to the public. No problem so far. If Tesla can use the additional revenue to boost the supercharger expansion I'm all for it.
In the Nordics tesla opened up their chargers to all ev's a while ago and it's great. We also have a charger standard that everyone has to follow, including tesla, so it's pretty neat. Universal standards are great, was surprised to learn CCS wasn't the standard for American EV's
@@ZombieAssassin7777They can always modify/update existing standards. And it would still be availablr for all cars. Also seperate from a specific manufacturer having the copyrights for it
@@ZombieAssassin7777ccs is a very versatile standard - like usb, if you encounter limitation you can always make new revisions and still keep the compatibility.
@@Pheeef CCS is USB A and NACs is USB C. NACs is superior tech that started off exclusive to a single company just like USB C did before it became open for anyone. CCS will need to be redone in 10 years to support newer advancements that are native in NACs. I wouldn't be shocked if CCS3 is just NACs in the future EU. It's also possible EU will adopt GBT in the future which is already a better version of CCS. No matter what they will keep the CCS name but the standard will become one of those two based on how mobile tech developed
In Europe where all superchargers has CCS that is more or less standard for all EVs it has been possible for all manufacturers to charge almost a year.
They should of made NACS standard. It is like if they made apples lightning port standard in Europe. USB type C is way better then lightning! In this case NACS is way better then CCS. Also for disabled people CCS is REALLY bad while Tesla's are really easy to use because they are small and don't have a latch mechanism. Also you won't be electrocuted because of a major design flaw in CCS. That dumb latch is easily damaged too.
@@lachlanB323 One of the major problems with NACS is that it doesn't support three phase charging. Unless they fix that massive oversight the US can keep it and I'll happily keep charging with Type 2 (the top part of CCS) at 11kw at home or up to 22kw at home. Also the latch is really nice to have, with the latch you can be sure people won't unplug your car while charging.
In EU all EVs are required to have CSS2. CCS2 might not be the best connector, but every car and charger has them. That allowed Tesla to just open the least busy chargers to all. I hope NA someday will be as lucky.
Meh. CCS2 may charge faster but it's annoying to use compared to the Tesla chargers in the states. Just came back from the EU and I was shocked at how much worse the experience was but at least it worked in the EU. Meanwhile American CCS charging stations are always broken.
@@Peizxcv Lmao this is hilarious and also true. GBT is more widely used thanks to China being the leader of EVs. It's more universal than EU standard on a global level
Definitely gonna help the experience, quite unfortunate for those from some brands that say they'll switch for cars from production year 2025 or whatever, so any car up until then they'll end up being less valuable
Haven't looked into other companies because I own a lightning, but Ford is sending ALL prior 2025 made vehicles a converter for plugging in and they will ALL gain access to Tesla stations. Except for having to put on the adapter it will be the same as post 2025 built vehicles.
This is a great trend! I do hope that Tesla scales their charging network to serve demand, and quickly. On a few roadtrips in the last 6 months, I've had to wait for a charger to open up at some of the charging stations.
are other providers such as Electrify America/ChargePoint allowed to build NACS DC chargers? It would be really bad if Tesla had a monopoly over all charging infrastructure in North America
yes. Most of the third party chargers are switching to NACS as well. Last I checked Electrify America hadn't made an announcement, but Chargepoint has committed to adding NACS
EVgo has announced they're adding NACS fast chargers. I might be wrong, but I believe the only thing other companies need agreements for is to use Tesla's supercharger network, but they can use the NACS port and plug without special agreements. Of course, at this point in time, it would be a terrible idea to put NACS on a car and not have an agreement to be able to use the supercharger network as well.
Tesla opened the patent for that. He wants to make sure his charging standard is the best, but I hear the monopoly play. Only thing is that since Tesla opened their patent on it so other manufacturers can build them. He’s just pushing a standard because it’s a very very hot mess right now, charging wise.
Couple points, Tesla opened API up to Ford etc so that control of the charging can be done through the Ford app. The advantage for tesla owners is the predicative forecasting of charger access based on queued demand. This could be degraded by 3rd party users who are not tied into the smart routing software.
APIs can work both ways. No reason to assume the Ford app won't be using the Tesla API to request that same predictive forecasting information. Tesla's stated goal is the acceleration of the advent of sustainable energy. As long as they make enough money on these deals to break even, there is no reason to assume that Tesla would make it a deliberately degraded experience for customers with 3rd party cars. Unless you have a source for this assertion?
Yeah, it's still Tesla's API, which means the communication is still going to Tesla, it's just being shared and made interoperable with 3rd parties. So, Tesla will still know the status of every stall being used. It will not degrade any predictive forecasting for Tesla car owners.
I always check the description for these videos to see which smartphone you’re using to film it. Hope you reveal it later on, but I’m gonna guess you’re using a Xperia phone haha
I wonder if they will all standardise on the side and placement of the port, as per your older video, where having it on the left rear for some and the right front for others causing queuing issues
No one seems to mention that if more cars use NACS then EV charging companies like Electrify America will put NACS on their chargers so a whole new avenue of charger’s become available to Tesla’s
I just did 4000 km (over 5 days) in a short-range Model 3 that I bought over 4 years ago. Zero problems. Zero range anxiety. Everything just worked. I'm not worried at all about others using the sc network -- it'll be 10x bigger in a couple of years, or more; as common as gas stations soon, and with charging times down to 5 minutes in the near future, what's there to worry about? Much better than the alternative.
I have said this years ago. Tesla making cars is not as important as it's supercharging network. Imagine if Ford or GM owned Exxon? With the ability to power the charger with solar and other Tesla innovations, he has vertically integrated from the down up.
Imagine if they owned Exxon and were building the most advanced real world AI in the world. Tesla is so underrated as an investment even now it's incredible.
@@bridgethings4225I think people are ignoring the difference, The cost of entry is high if you want to start oil refineries and sell the oil, whereas with electric chargers the cost of entry is basically none compared to oil. Doesn't matter how good Tesla or other charging networks are, since every gas station will replace the oil pump with electric chargers in the future. And not to mention all the houses already have charging at home, and more and more apartments/work places will have them too.
8:13 One of the biggest aspects of the GM-Tesla announcement that was overlooked is that GM considers Tesla their "second" EV charging partner. EVgo is their first. So it does appear GM and Rivian are going to continue building out their respective networks (Ultium Ready and Adventure Network). Hopefully, Rivian opens their network, but with this announcement, they might be transitioning away from the HUBER + SUHNER CCS1 cables and adopting whatever we end up calling this smaller format CCS standard after it is homologated. GM's partner EVgo has always maintained an open network with support for a number of vehicles and charging standards (including Tesla's native standard through a CHAdeMO adapter), so that shouldn't change.
Really like this Chanel man. It would be cool I think to see you review other cars like the 4Runner and maybe a jeep every now and then. Or those new electric off roaders. Not all the time but occasionally
With Rivian moving to NACS ports in the vehicles does anyone think they will change their charging stations to NACS as well? Makes sense for them to do this, plus they could get Tesla's and other vehicles to use their network in those remote areas where Tesla charging network isn't available.
Enjoy watching your videos. This Collab also makes me wonder about the Bidirectional Charging in the future and who will bring that feature with this port.
@@ch4.hayabusa when he showed it in the review video, he showed it using the back camera. Which is startling as it should not look anywhere near this creamy and janky.
I had a nightmare of a time this weekend. We moved (217 mountain miles between houses), I have a 2018 Nissan Leaf, and the only charging station at one of my required charge stops was out of order (there wasn't a single level 2 charger in the town). I had my charging cable with me, so I was able to find an RV park where I could plug in and charge, but it added over 3 hours to my trip when I factor in finding a place to plug in. Having to rely on CHAdeMO definitely makes things more difficult. I totally get peoples fear of electric vehicles, especially after this weekends experience.
[unknown smartphone] sure doesn’t sound great, but I appreciate the video being put out regardless! One of my favourite tertiary parts of Auto Focus is seeing how phone video looks in real world situations.
@mkbhd do you think just having the charging port is enough? Having the software integration showing what Superchargers are out of order or wait times is a big thing to NOT have with just having access to ports.
Hopefully Tesla does like they have started doing in the EU. Upgrade their chargers with longer cables, so other brands do not end up blocking chargers like they do now here in Norway. Toyota, Audi etc etc. all end up taking up the chargers on the wrong side at the moment. Hence blocking one extra charger.
My guess is the deal they made with Tesla includes locating the NACS charge port in the left-rear corner like Tesla does or in the front-right corner, so short cables should reach just as well as they do for charging Teslas.
Unless I missed it, I think you missed a significant portion of the Ford/Tesla partnership: Making the Tesla charging Application Programming Interface (API) open to Ford, not just the connector or access to a significant portion of the charging network Tesla built. This distinction means that Ford owners will be able to see all the chargers (Tesla and others) from within the Ford application they already have. Also, the connector design itself was Open Sourced when it was first introduced. Anyone could have used that from day 1.
This already happens but I also think it will be even easier to convince shopping malls and other convenient locations to locate a bank of chargers that every EV can use instead of just Tesla and get the benefit of many more customers wanting to shop there while there vehicle is charging.
Good to see MKBHD covering this topic. This is huge news in the EV industry. If European car O&Ms start following this collab, that would be even bigger. Standardization is the way to go!
@@EnricoBrandtyup, this feels like a backwards move TBH. There’s a ton of CCS chargers been rolled out that this will then leave in the weeds to get even worse. In Europe CCS won to be the standard and that is the direction to go in surely. Is the issue that US is run by companies and the EU is run by a governing body perhaps. EU doesn’t have a financial stake in the game so tries to apply a fair (and frankly sensible) logic but in US it seems that market forces/companies are the thing that moves most and rarely for the consumers benefit.
It's basically a move against standardization, because most other manufacturers, especially the european brands, already have a standard, the CCS2 (and the GB/T in asia). Tesla is basically moving against that and starts a media war against an existing standard to create a new one, which would cause everyone else to produce different cars for the NA market. Tesla so far was the only one to use their plug-system and most, if not all others, even in the NA-market, use CCS. So why should everyone else adopt their "special" one, instead of Tesla switching to the standard of everyone else? The only positive thing about this is the simple opening of the charging network, but for everything else it's complicated and starts a whole new seperation between standards. In the EU Tesla even adopted CCS because they had to, so now even they have to use 2 different types.
@@Brettnet I think tesla showed that they can adapt their car to the market (e.g. CCS charger on tesla car in Europe). Even in the US, they opened couple of superchargers for other brands. So either CCS or NACS, they can switch. To me, the questions is, what works the best? I have used both CCS and NACS and have slight preference for the NACS, it's less bulkier and rigid (personal opinion as a consumer). But which ever way they go, Standardization will benefit consumers.
Absolutely, they'd be doubling down. You'd of course also need an Apple phone to even unlock the car. No Android Auto, only Apple CarPlay. Your car recordings only get saved to iCloud so make sure you get in on that as part of the ecosystem too. They're a joke.
It's basically exactly what Apple would do. Instead of "just" switching to the standard everyone else is already using, they are now trying to convince everyone else to use their "standard". Less work, more money. It might be a debate if CCS is the "best" , but it's so widely adopted outside of Tesla that "opening up" would mean adopting it, instead of changing everyone else.
There's a lot of confusion about this because NACS isn't actually a standard. As you noted, it's Tesla's plug format; however, it uses the CCS communication standards and protocols. That, by definition, makes this new standard CCS (essentially, a third CCS plug format). Some Tesla cars and Superchargers are natively CCS compatible (essentially dual-standard), but others are not. On networks that are not a walled garden, there will be complete interoperability between CCS1 and this new standard, and all that will be required is a basic physical adapter. I suggest looking up the history of the transition from Avcon to Yazaki for J1772 because that's essentially what is happening here. Ford, GM, Rivian, etc. are adopting the plug format, but they are keeping the CCS charging standard.
MKBHD team, audio in this one peaks and doesn't sound all that great as far as quality. Audio has constant fuzziness. That being said, awesome video. Love the content and the flow.
One con is that the demand for charging slots is more crowded. While I've never been to a supercharger where I had to wait, but now that will be more likely. Also, since the chargers are oriented toward Tesla's, other EVs have charging ports that is in a different location on the car which in some cases they will need to take up two parking places to plug in.
Both issues being discussed are certainly crucial in the short term. This would indeed be a win for most electric vehicle users, except perhaps Tesla owners who have enjoyed exclusivity till now. However, one could argue that the premium prices Tesla early adopters paid were justified by the years of exclusive access to the Supercharger network. This perspective is debatable and might seem somewhat fragile when put under scrutiny.
Respectfully, on my 3rd Tesla the fact is that the premium that we paid for the cars has subsidized the buildout of the SC network. Exclusive access rings a bit hollow as we still had to pay to charge and at a rate which was profitable to Tesla. Its a win for Tesla shareholders, not so much for the owners Im in CA where superchargers are already saturated esp since the model Y hit, adding other brands with less optimal charging speed is not ideal.
@@wraith8323 I believe that is a short term problem though, because the additional cars will bring additional revenue which will lead to more chargers getting built. And you know areas with the busiest SC stations will be the first to get more so they can maximize additional revenue. I think the average wait-per-station will balance out to be pretty much the same as it is now, just with a larger number of stations in more areas
@@jmunt It is a short term problem. Short term as in the next decade or two, maybe more. The market for EVs is just taking off. No matter how fast you build, you will always be struggling to match the number of chargers to the demand of the rapidly growing number of EVs until that growth slows down.
I'm thinking about the video shooting, Marques just holding the cam (probably a phone cam) and start talking. How powerful his words and thinking are. 😇
@@1230mkelly Any charging network can use NACS and Tesla are expecting to make tiny amount of money from the charging. They have to do what they tell their shareholders and that is to not use charging as a profit center, but to use it so that EVs including Teslas will be easier to buy when considering charging.
Saw from your pixel fold video this is shot on pixel the camera. not gonna lie before that unveil I thought it was shot on an iPhone. although some grain I didn’t notice before your video. I got to say the video looks great and your skin tones do too. just the whole video
Tesla opened up charging at Superchargers as a test for at least 8 months now here in The Netherlands. Not many people without Teslas use them though but it does happen more than before. I think they gave away part of their UPS but untill now I don't have any problems charging while no spots were available. It's a win just for other EV drivers... I could have problems charging when it gets more popular, and that's not what i signed up for when I bought my Tesla Model 3. Funny in the US you don't know about this...
I think that whenever the Rivian's adventure network switches to NACS it may provide a unique benifit for Tesla and other EVs as well alongside it's own.....
Still shocked that Ford was the first one to adopt the Tesla charger, but yeah, this is HUGE and makes those EVs all the more easier to use! Big win for everybody!
Ford has been alot more open minded about things in recent years. Just looking at what they have done in there own EVs or another examples like how they made CAD/STL files available for some of there vechiles to make it easies for people design and 3d print accessires for there cars. Right around the time Honda took legal action to get ever 3d model with the word Honda in the title or description for ever website they could.
The government should have mandated the plug type years ago. How immensely stupid would it be to have different sized gas pump nozzles that only certain cars could use?
I agree. It would have been a good opportunity to standardize with Europe (and elsewhere). But now we'll have different ports on different continents, just like with electrical outlets.
@@FuncleChuck I hate most government regulations but i am very happy the EU has mandated the CCS standard in Europe before it became a mess with different charging plugs like in the US.
The question is if you have a ccs car will they keep adding magic docks so both is an option or will they abandon that because everyone is switching to nacs
They haven't said, but with all the largest non-Tesla manufacturers switched they can gesture broadly and say it isn't needed anymore as everyone will bring their own adapter if needed. Hopefully they continue at least at a handful at supported sites for those with abandoned cars
I think part of the deals that have been signed with Ford, GM, Rivian, is that charging will be available directly through their respective apps -- that way customers don't need to download an additional app (Tesla app) in order to use their service. As well as access to their API for the supercharging network to allow routing and station status info. Even if companies didn't partner with Tesla -- everyone is suppose to have access by next year via magic dock -- but would need to access through a Tesla account with the Tesla app. Will have to wait for the next earnings calls to see if Tesla is making money off of the partnerships or not.
This is the kinda Collab I like to see. Makes me super hopeful of buying an EV soon with this news. Availability of charging stations is definitely a factor in considering an EV right now. So, this is definitely a big stride forward in that direction.
So it'll be NACS, for North America, and CCS2 for the rest of the world (except China) Also not to confuse CCS1 as used in NA, with the Type 2 standard.With it's support for OCPP, which allows any EV to charge at any station given nfc card or app access.
I had to end up buying a Civic instead of a Bolt EUV last year over the charging setup. The bolt just couldn't make it anywhere I wanted to go with the little chargers that were compatible with them. Now I can confidently say my next car will be electric.
Lucid or Polestar. The ‘clip’ on the CCS chargers like ChargePoint are prone to getting snapped off by vandalism making them less reliable; sometimes you can still get a solid connection and charge, other times no such luck. As a Tesla owner a little concerned - but willing to look big picture.
It’s interesting that he mentions Mercedes. Just before watching this video I read that Mercedes has decided to go with NACS. Also, a couple of charger manufacturers have stated they will be adding NACS to their chargers! This is all changing very quickly!
Don't forget, it's not juat the physical port and the charging standard but the validation of the hardware and software to ensure a good charging experience. Validation by Tesla and manufacturer joint partnerships is what I can hope makes charging painless. Take kia for example, who tesla had to cap the charging rate due to incompatibility with the onboard dc - dc converter which... might be fixed through a software update to the charger? (Unnamed source within a motortrend article)
Thank @Aptera! They called it first. They petitioned that it become the standard first, THEN Tesla officially renamed it NACS and opened to the public, @APTERA first adopted NACS as the built in charge port. And will likely be the first EV out with the NACS port. THANKS @APTERA!!!
Lol I’m confident they won’t get to market. They don’t qualify for the EV tax credit and their car is more expensive than a Model 3. You’ve got to make a ton of something to begin to realize economies of scale and I don’t see Apteras being a car someone would choose en masse over a Model 3 or similar cars.
Have these manufacturers or Tesla tried to address the charging port location on cars? Current cars have the ports all over the place, and the Tesla charging cables are short. How is that gonna work?
@@MegaWilderness Right now the ports are all on the same side though. So they'll have to modify existing superchargers or have drivers use the wrong charger for the stall they're in.
The new stations have longer cables. V4. Idk when they will install them but they also can juice up to 1000v /615A. They seem to be prepping for the Semi which can reach close to those speeds and is obviously very long
@@noodlesthe1st A gas station a pump can be used on either side of the car, because you can face the car in either direction... Pull through style, as the comment you misunderstood was saying...
If access to charging becomes universal, then owning an EV will become more economically viable for the long-term. I still think we're far off from EV truly being the better option than EV's when it comes to every day use, but we're definitely moving in the right direction.
I just finished a 4000+ road trip and there are Tesla chargers in the National Parks or very close to them. I never had to worry about charging off the beaten track.
I'm skeptical about what this means for the EV industry, like it's a good thing all these people have access to a more dense charging network but also with EU using CCS as a standard and NA divided between CCS and NACS (or if NACS gets adopted as the exclusive standard) then manufacturers will have to build different charging ports for the same model of car depending on where they're selling it (this added to other regional variants like steering wheel position and light indicators). This will end up creating a ton of variance within the same model and NACS and CCS are not necessarily gonna evolve together, they might drift apart and become incompatible as standards.
Europe and North America both have CCS, but they're two different standards. And if you look around the rest of the world, you'll see GB/T and CHAdeMO. There is nothing remotely like a worldwide standard. Manufacturers already have to do so much to meet all the requirements for different countries. The charge port isn't that big a deal.
Love seeing a car maker announce they’re going to adopt NACS, we’ll finally have one connector to rule them all and we’ll have lots of competition with other chargers as well. Was honestly thinking Rivian would be one of the last to do this, glad they were actually one of the first tbh. I have Tesla Model 3 and actually use EVgo more than Tesla superchargers simply because it’s cheaper and because they charge you by the minute and not by kWh. Can’t wait to see more chargers use NACS and hopefully get even cheaper. 😄
This is very common US-only thinking. In the rest of the world Tesla's ship with the world standard CCS plug (except for places in Japan using ChaDemo). We almost had a world standard EV charging plug. So not a great win, to switch to a plug that doesn't support 3-phase power, yet another US-only inferior standard, like 110v electricity, NTSC/ATSC for TV, Inches.... etc.
@@JBoman32768 I do wish the whole world used a similar plug, however, I do not like the CCS plug. It is way too big and bulky, NACS is much smaller and lighter and can only be used with one hand effortlessly.
Saw an article just this morning that Walmart will be building EV chargers at all Stores and Same Clubs by 2030, assuming the trend continues, it looks like these will also be NACS if Walmarts team is paying attention to the industry. Considering Blink and a few smaller charging providers have already come out with their transition plans for NACS, it seems we're on the cusp of EV charging accessibility greatly increasing, just in time for the major vehicle manufacturers promises of "electrified fleets" by 2026-ish. As a model 3 owner, I'm curious to see how congestion is during this period before the ramp up of charging stations hits a new peak.
You have 70%+ cars as Tesla plus Tesla doubling the network. Many of those new chargers will be "port position agnostic" ("PPA", New acronym?) You won't have a problem.
Double? How? Tesla already has 70% of the cars on the road, is building chargers at breakneck speed, and none of these other brands have actually implemented their plans yet.
Are any of the manufacturers going to move the charge ports to the back left quarter panel, or are we just going to see more non teslas taking up 2 spots to charge?
Teslas Supercharger deployment is greater than the US than their vehicle deployments. CAGR for the auto industry transition towards EVs sits at about a predicted 25%.
Love the content, this move is exciting and makes me even more sure my next car will be electric. Also, android audio is still FAR lower in quality and stability than iPhone. stick with apple :)
My guess is that all or nearly all v3 and above Superchargers in US and Canada will be open to Ford, GM, and Rivian. I think it's the old v2 Superchargers that will remain Tesla exclusive, just to make development and deployment easier. Charger manufacturers and charger networks are also jumping on the NACS bandwagon, so expect to see both CCS and NACS cables on most chargers. I agree this is a win for all involved.
As a Tesla owner it is weird seeing another EV charging next to me at a supercharger but as a Tesla stock owner thank you. However, it is a win-win for everyone. Thank goodness there are CEOs who put their customers' needs first
The biggest issue now is the massive glut of used cars that has the CCS port, you'll be stuck with the small network of mostly crumby cheap chargers, some good ones, or a dongle that will probably slow charging or make it less reliable.
If a manufacturer adopts the standard they will have the firmware required. The removable part of the Magic Dock will be the "universal adaptor" If you want the system, it's that adaptor and the required firmware. Negotiate with your manufacturer !! 👍
Aptera were also all-in on NACS before Ford, mostly because the plug is more compact. NACS is indeed a better plug but I feel like it's not *enough* better to justify adding even more confusion to the charging landscape right now. I'd much rather see charging not require an app and a network and so on, and just like, hey, require a dang payment terminal on every charger.
