I have to add a few points that I think are very important 1. The finishing is unbelievably good. The fact that there's no high polishing doesn't mean that it is not a luxury level. Polishing will look weird on titanium. 2. Thick is all matter of perspective, you said it yourself, the PO is a thick watch too... But it is 500m professional diver watch. It isn't that thick if you consider these points. You can't compare it to a 100m or 50m water-resistant watch. 3. Not sure where you got the watch, but it doesn't keep time as it should and not waiting for specs. Tudor claims it holds -2 to +4... 4. Listen to the specs: 70 hours power reserve but still 4 Hz movement. -2+4 accuracy. 500m with a helium escape valve. Ceramic bezel. Comes with another rubber strap. You can the watch well within the 3000-4000 range, and for that price, it has no competition at all... Cheers!
Bought one a few weeks ago, it is a great watch, the bracelet with the spring adjustment is awesome. I wear it on my left hand. Great lume Very nice watch.
Owned the std Pelli, for 2 year, sold and bought the LHD, its a great watch, I also like the concept of the cream indices and script don’t look like a faux patina, it’s an actual color. The splash of red gives it pop yet reducing the visual aspect of so much text. Great review, thanks.
This is a real tool watch capable of saturation diving up to 50 ATM. Hence the specs and special features live HEV, clasp and full lime. I haven’t come across a better Diver that is smaller/lighter and at this price point. I’ll take my new LHD on my next dives and am already curious how good it will perform.
14.2mm height isn't really too tall for a 500m diver. The ratio of the shallow bezel to the case enhances the slab-like appearance from the side. If the bezel went deeper, I don't think you'd notice. By comparison the BB GMT is 14.6mm. But, I'm still hoping the new Tudor slimmer movement gets a run in the Pelagos. I'd like something with a bit better specs for desk diving.
i have this watch... my wrist and hands arent small.. this watch is perfect for me... also the dail and bezel are matte ceramic... you need to mention that.
Make sure your automatic watch is not between 9pm and 3am when adjusting the day or date. There's a chance of fouling up the movement or date alignment. Most automatic watches are in the process of automatically adjusting the date at some point between those times. I make sure any time I put on this watch, or any other watch I have with a date feature, that it is set to 6 o'clock before I adjust the date.
Easy hack for the tightness of the bracelet when you are inbetween sizes: remove one link, put a small button for clothing into the clasp and voila you are now in half sizes and you can still use the watch like always, also with the springs adjust
This was explained to me by some watch guys so feel free to correct me but I was told titanium is absolutely harder than stainless steel by a wide margin and the reason you see scratches more on titanium watches is you're actually scratching the oxidization layer on the watch apparently.
The tightness of the band has to be adjusted with links initially, with a mind to the adjustment and where it must start. Secondly, the springs actually break in a little bit. Thus far, my titanium band hadn't scratched. The flatness of the face is disturbed by the red. Rotor Self-Winding is the only line which needs to be eliminated, if any. AF
What a great watch, some specs are even superior to the Submariner. Let’s be grateful that we can walk into an AD and buy it hot off the shelf, unlike Rolex with ridiculous customer lists measured in years.
Hi there, great honest review you mentioned Tudor learning there lesson with the case thickness with the new 58 but it's probably strategic marketing these companies think far ahead and now with the smaller movement it opens up all possibilities with the Tudor range.Its funny you mentioned the dial being flat and painty my exact thought's on the sinn u1 se which was more basic with a flat printed painty dial so I didn't go ahead with the purchase full well knowing it's part of the military low key design (Strange).
Considering Pelagos, however did anyone else notice that the date was not centered in the window in this video? In other reviews, I’ve noticed the the bezel does not line up exactly at the 12 o’clock position, has anyone else seen this? I would not buy this watch without making sure that these 2 items were centered.
I know Nick’s style and I’m not taking issue with it, but I feel like he and other reviewers often pick up literal tool watches and then say “this thing has impractical aspects for daily use.” It’s like buying a sports car and saying the suspension is too stiff and it’s too low to the ground. They have cars for those who don’t want that. Same for watches. Also, the “jewelry” here is the unapologetic tool-ness. For me that’s a rare and beautiful quality.
This is the best and most in-depth review I've seen on this model! I like that you're very objective about the watch itself and not too starstruck by the brand. I do like Tudor, but can't really decide which model to get. So I would be very interested to hear how you would compare the Pelagos to the Black Bay. Fundamentally the same watch, but perhaps it dresses up the maybe "too basic" styling of the Pelagos, not to mention a lower price point. Maybe that's why it sells better? I would also consider the North Flag, but wonder why it doesn't get as much attention.
I will never understand why people who don't dive buy watches with dive features that they don't need. The Tudor 1926, even though it's steel, is thinner, lighter, better finished, doesn't have all of the writing on the dial, comes in 4 different sizes, and it's about 40% of the price at $1,800. For an office drone type, why buy the dive watch? You're paying for features that you don't need (uber water resistance and helium escape, both of which contribute to weight and thickness) and then complaining about how unnecessary they are.
I agree with you. But that’s consumerism for you. Most folks buy things that have features/abilities they don’t need or would ever use. Vehicles for example- most folks I personally know that own Jeep Wranglers don’t/won’t do “off roading”. Or sport cars- legally most owners cannot go full throttle in those vehicles in any state outside of an actual race track (which most don’t frequent). But these are just my observations- I could be wrong.🤔
This not meant to ugly.... So please don't take it the wrong way: I know you're starting to get your feet wet in horology and I completely understand that but to disregard an in-house movement with the 70 hour power Reserve is crazy which is 10 more than the planet ocean. also to work with titanium is more expensive and more time-consuming then steel. Also the tolerances on the Pelagos are far better than the planet ocean and I own both!
Mine is certainly an "outsider's perspective" in Horology, as I don't worship at the same altars as many. But remember that not everybody sees "in house" as an inherent plus. And 70 hours is great, but the PO was consistently around 0.2 seconds per day fast, this was several times less accurate. Titanium is harder to machine, and the bezel is better on the Pelagos, but I stand behind my personal opinion here :)
To be honest... I'd rather trade that 30-20 hours of extra power reserve to being able to service the watch at my local watchmaker's for much less. /off the shelf movements/
All modern ‘master co-axial chronometer’ omegas are METAS certified. So it’s not true that tolerances are better on a pelagos. Obviously there may be individual examples which perform better because at the end of the day these are machines and they don’t always work 100% as they’re intended to. But generally modern planet oceans will perform better as they are more stringently tested/regulated.
@@ThatKiddmg I was more talking about the fit and finish of the case bezel action and the bezel itself. The bracelet and how it fits into the case.... you can say what you will at the end of the day it's made by Rolex and has Rolex tolerances.
@@tamashorvath7954 I see people make this argument often... With the modern-day Omega movement as well as the tudor you're looking at 10-year increments as far as service intervals. As opposed to a ETA movement that you're looking at more like 4 years.... So in my eyes it's a wash maybe not yours
I think you are missing the fact there is a market demand for a high end tool watch that isn't polished and "jewelry" as you call it. Also many guys want a tool watch that has some presence and doesn't look slim and trim like woman's watch ( black bay 58...).
@@NickShabazz For sure. It's strange that the companies most dedicated to accuracy will quote +2/-2 or +3/-1. Give me +4/-0. I think they prefer to specify a range that could theoretically include a dead accurate specimen. Perfect is the enemy of good, as they say.
Great review. I wanted this watch so bad but after trying it on... yes... top heavy, thickness is way overkill. You don't need a Hev for 50 Atmos. Shame.
Nick -- you are confusing "high=-end finishing" with bling. you're the only reviewer I've heard say the pelagos finish isn't hi-end! also, my pelagos is -2 seconds a day ! i owned the Steinhart Ti too. it is also a great watch.
I like the Pelagos but now I’m wondering if it’s too much tool watch for me. I think Sinn are the masters of making non-jewelry looking tool watches look fun and attractive. Have you looked into the Sinn T2? It’s titanium and small for what it is. Haven’t seen one in person but I’m looking forward to it hopefully soon.
Nick, I think you want a Black Bay 58 (maybe when new colors come out, I'm personally not a fan of the Gilt), or one of the new seamaster300's. I think I want to see you own them.
Ive had the pelagos RHD for most of this year and wear it 95% of the time. i'm into titanium watches and I need to be able to read it in the dark. pelagos has the best lume of any watch I've ever owned. only negative is thickness.
My Tudor Pelagos stopped ticking after three weeks. I am currently negotiating with the seller who has their own one-year warranty from the Internet. The snowflake hands for a tool watch are the most beautiful out there. The weight of the watch is just about perfect. The size doesn't bother me at all on the wrist and the size of it makes it very legible. I wouldn't get the LHD wind because I can't stand the red alternate numbers nor the red lettering on line one. Like get it out of my sight. Having great lume is part of the great statistics of this watch. For me, it is much less "in your face" than the sister Rolex. Just a lower profile. Not a conversation piece per se and that's good. It is hoped that that the watch will be repaired or replaced so that it will do what the company says the watch will do.
I’ve been on the fence between the blue pelagos and the black bay. I feel myself leaning towards the bb, mainly because I feel the bb will still have a classic style 10+ years down the road. Love the look of the pelagos, but not too sure how the look will hold up in the future.
Great video with solid critiques. I’d say that both the coaxial movement and Tudor in-house stuff are both too young to say one is better than the other. And I’d say that jewelry factor is purely personal, one watch isn’t better than the other when it’s a tool watch just because the finishing isn’t as Gucci-tactic
One thing that is really annoying with these reviews...and I see that more and more often, it’s the unnecessary complains about sizes when someone goes looking for dive watches. It’s a dive watch for god’s sake, if you want a dress watch, don’t go looking for something with a 500m depth rating . The planet ocean is as, or even thicker than this, and talking about weight, I tried a Seamaster 300 SMP ( which I love by the way) with a metal bracelet......and no freaking way, I could wear that all day long.
i wear mine on a watchgecko tropic with the tudor buckle off the extension. i sold the bracelet, rubber strap and yes even the box and my cost basis is $2600. light, not that expensize and the text doesn't bother me. the thickness does bother me somewhat.
I'm ready to purchase one. Yikes, if I paid $4k for a swiss watch and it runs - 3 to -5 per day I would NOT be happy! It's not like I can open and regulate it like a Seiko or ETA.
Yes, Rolex/Tudor need to quit putting 9000 comments on the dial. And Rolex needs to quit using Cyclops magnifiers and make the date window big enough to read.
I felt the same way as well but was shocked when I actually had it on my wrist (to be fair, mine is the Blue, not the LHD) - nonetheless, visit an AD and try it on. You'll be surprised.
The problem of the watch being to thick is easily solved for those who wear long sleeve shirts. Custom shirts. The left or right sleeve can be made slightly bigger to accommodate the thickness of the watch. DO NOT GET INTO CUSTOM SHIRTS!!!!
A Question:. Anyone know why people like my Dad can't wear inexpensive conventional movement watches? Any inexpensive watch will stop within a day of my Dad putting it on.
In North America there's a rare disease where electronics will stop working if touched regularly, or for long periods of time, by the one with the disease. By touched I mean within a millimeter of the person and the electronic.
That's funny you say that. I've always just thought I was a freak, but yes. The same thing happens to me. I wouldn't say I need EXPENSIVE watches, but I definitely seem to stop quite a few of them. As far back as I can remember. I think it's about the magnetism, but I really don't know any details. I have a bunch of watches. I wear 2 of them.
I’ve been pining over this watch for a long time, im a bigger guy, like bigger watches and have found these online around $3700 brand new. I’m still torn between that and a monta or a sangin instruments watch. At $3700 does it do any better than the monta in your opinion?
Buy the Pelagos used under warranty for $3300 if you flip it you might lose $200 at worse! If you buy a micro brand like a monta you will lose $500 to $1000 easy if you decide to flip it.
I really like this watch. Unfortunately, I think my 7" wrist is too small for it... If it was 40mm x 13mm x 48mm, then I would sell a few watches to make room for it.
I highly doubt that you really own this watch.. A lot of hatred and your critique is not necessarily comprehensive.. For example its completely stupid to criticize the thickness of a professional 500m Diving watch with only 14.2mm!! How thick you need it to be? 10mm?.. And if that was the case you should get your self a tiny dress watch why buying a diving watch in first place 🤔
You talk a lot but the content is minimal. This watch is amazing value for money. It's Titanium, yes, lighter than Stainless. It's not thick, it's a diving watch, if you want a dress watch buy one. Go look at the Omega Deep Sea, that's thick!
$4,400? For $400 more you can pay retail and get an Omega seamaster with the coaxial master chronometer with METAS certification. Plus a great deal more "polishing". At $2,400, perhaps this would be a good value. But once you get over $4,000, there are some better choices. This is a nice looking watch. But at that price point, there are a lot of nice looking watches that offer more.
Thomas h personal preference. For me it’s the other way round. That’s why I bought this. I had a black Seamaster Professional 300 but I just couldn’t get used to the shiny parts. And also legibility
This is always my beef with Tudor: too thick. They had a couple of Heritage Chronos on sale in the local AD and I was seriously tempted: they're a great looking watch and overall suit my aesthetic, but then you see them from the side and realise they're yet another slab sided monstrosity. I tried them both on but I just couldn't do it.
As a former Pelagos owner, I sold it because of the clasp. I could not STAND it. It was always too tight. So many reviewers rave about the clasp, but I just could not stand it.
I, personally, think the Seiko Tuna is a better watch than the Pelagos, full stop. It is more comfortable for me(despite being steel), and I think the bracelet is excellent. The lume is better, and I like having the nice quartz movement.
Good = that lume & it's cheaper than a Rolex. Bad = too fat all round, too heavy, cheap titanium (come on Tudor, pony up for Citizens Dia-shield or similar - my Chronomaster just doesn't really scratch at all), more words on the plain, low rent dial than an Invicta and I don't like the snowflake hand. Result is it's an easy watch to pass on, at least in this version. I did enjoy the good, honest review!
I'm not against saturation divers having one. But it seems like something that should be an option, at additional cost. I think, though, it's just marketing.
