The ULTRAKILL community's "weapon-meta" problem 

I've genuinely come to the the conclusion that there really aren't any objectively bad weapons in ULTRAKILL. I wouldn't say my credentials are much to write home about, but I *did* reach Wave 81 on the Violent Cyber Grind with my fairly "non-meta" playstyle and arsenal. My enjoyment and damage output is far greater with the Screwdriver than the Electric Railcannon, and the same can be said about my usage of the regular Sharpshooter over something like the Alt Piercer. Does that mean I get to say what weapons are "superior" to anyone who hasn't made it into the top 100 on the leaderboard? Of course not! @DumpsterManTV had some great insight on the issue as well, in my opinion! Quote: I find the community at large has trouble presenting these conversations in a constructive way and that's where the issue lies... ULTRAKILL is far from a "solved" game, but everyone seems to think the way they did it is "correct" because of confirmation bias. So instead of asking why you chose to approach something differently, instead it's "I can't believe they used the Screwdriver lmao". The unwillingness to adapt, and be creative and inquisitive about playstyle in this game is gonna hurt some peoples' enjoyment of it, and a big portion of the community unfortunately perpetuates this "I'm right, you're wrong" mindset.

If Screwdriver has a million fans, then I am one of them If Screwdriver has a ten fans, then I am one of them If Screwdriver has only one fan, then that is me If Screwdriver has a no fans, then that means i am no longer in this mortal plane If the world is against Screwdriver, then I am against the world.

Sending this to all Screwdriver haters in my area

"screwdriver doesn't give style" My entire arsenal in question, which can give style that is more than enough for an S in style:

the best part of ultrakill is that everybody plays it differently, because it's more character action than fps. if someone tries to shame someone into only playing the game the way the m e t a has decided, they have completely missed the point, and should fuck off back to r/doometernal

I thought the screwdriver was terrible Until I realised that punching the screw out of a Maurice kills it instantly, and that you can punch the screw into another Maurice and kill that one instantly also, and you can keep doing it

Honestly, I agree with basically everything. Now, I used to think that some ULTRAKILL weapons were not worth putting in my slots, but after experimenting and learning more about the ULTRAKILL arsenal, and over my 260 hours (not to flex) of playing the game, I can say that I have found use for BASICALLY every weapon (Although I am still trying to find out how to make slab marksman fun right now by experimenting, lol). Even if it that use for said weapon was just for fun, not being practical, I didn't really care. As long as I could style on enemies how I wanted to, I was bringing the weapon. Like stated by Eren before, ULTRAKILL is about that expression and playing the game in a way that you can enjoy it the most. Trust me, if you do not experiment with every single weapon, you won't be enjoying ULTRAKILL as much as others. "Oh my God, this is EXACTLY what Hakita wanted." - Max0r

0:24 to be fair about that controversy that was someone intentionally not weapon switching and then complaining the game has low weapon variety and saying the game was bad for it.

Ultrakill players not knowing about the game's DMC origins comes no shocker to me when people I've interacted with from the community don't even know what Quake is.

Whenever I see a new player for example stream ULTRAKILL, I despise people who join and start saying "do this, don't use that, swap weapons more" and so on. I like helping new people (who want tips from others, partially as a replacement for having to read weapon info manually) just like most other people, but I always focus on showing people not what they SHOULD do but what they CAN do, teaching them interesting game mechanics which they would otherwise never find out about and then watch the smile on their face face and/or hear the happiness in their voice as they finish off a room with a coin punch combo'd into coin shot, do their first slam storage or oneshot a Cerberus in sandbox by a clean 2 coin coinadding railcoin

You know shit's bad when people complain about people not using "meta" stuff in a singleplayer game. Really disheartening that the community of such a sick game is so garbage to the point that so many different content creators are calling it out

I like the video, but to make something clear: The reason people are making fun of the "jar of mayo" is because he fundamentaly doesn't understand what you essentially said. His rhetoric is that the game is bad because the game doesn't force you to play one way, and played exclusively using the piercer to show how "boring" the game "really is" since it didn't force him, and was being really snooty about it the whole time. To be clear: people don't really care in this case about the fact that he's using the revolver, they do for his bad argument. And that's not to say there's not toxic fans out there policing people's playstyles, just this one case.

OH MY GOD THANK YOU. I've been using the blue nailgun forever and also recently switched to the alt marksman. I don't even care which is optimal, i just prefer how they feel to use. I noticed that I basically never shoot coins raw with the revolver(i always coin punch or railcoin or charge shot) so it doesn't even matter which fucking marksman I use.

A Twitch streamer Albino used only the Slab Piercer for the last few acts of the game because his chat kept pestering him that he doesn't use enough weapons, very funny

I never liked the screwdriver, but it turns out, I just didn't know what it could do. I was browsing RU-vid and saw a video where some guy killed the swordsmachine pair with only the screwdriver, and now I use it all the time. This game is about experimentation, not elitism.

Thank you for this. The amount of flak I've gotten for using the default piercer is unreal, and it's really strange that we've got this many meta-sheep in a game about player expression.

Ultrakill is about being stylish. Hakita expects us to use each weapon in different ways, not to look for the "best" weapon, and which we're comfortable with. So people who make fun of screwdriver and slabsman users should just piss off back to doom like you said. I've found uses for screwdriver in lots of situations, and as for slabsman, it's a fun sidegrade I guess. It's not that practical, but it's really satisfying anyway.

Enjoying something without interacting with the community wins yet again

I've seen this problem on a discussion that was about the Screwdriver; It's quite sad. But something good can come from it, currently working on a video all about the Screwdriver, showing it's full potential, hopefully this will help it stand out more.

3:41 ok, but lets stop and admire this one clip. This combo is insane

I have used the alt sharpshooter few times and I like it, especially the quick swap between it and alt piercer. Since the alt marksman is considered to be the worst weapon, I gotta go with it only on a playthrough, I know damn well that shit's gonna be funny and hella entertaining This game, no matter how you play it, is still so fun, like Ive had a playthrough of arms only and even that was enjoyable.

the screwdiver hate is the most absurd cuz in literally every playthrough you see a person using it to demolish bosses, ppl who low rank it are way over their head over being able to pull off railcannon combos

i 100% agree with you, and i wish i found this video sooner. i'm primarily a speedrunner and theorycrafter, and while its significantly less common of a sentiment in that scene, its still definitely there. The main issue i've always had with this argument against certain weapons, or whatever it happens to be at the time, is that literally EVERY weapon has a place where its optimal. not good, not great, not second best, 100%, fully optimal. slab marksman? many top swordsmachine kills use it, same with default piercer. blue and green nails? been seen used in a variety of 0-5, 6-2, and 4-4 instakills. default sawed on? 5-1 any%, its used in wave 2. screwdriver? top flesh prison kills use it, and i believe some panopticon ones do too. are these options more niche than their counterparts? yeah, they are. But devaluing that niche, and especially ignoring the fact that people can intentionally play around that niche to get more value out of it more often, is completely ridiculous. Even if you actively ignore having fun, actively ignore personal preference, saying that certain weapons are unusable is objectively incorrect. let people enjoy things.

everyone hating on the screwdriver until they find out it makes you immortal when put in a guttertank (i hate guttertank) in 7-3 last room when marked by death

It is sad that some in the ULTRAKILL community feel the need to force people into playing the game "the right way", one of the most genius design philosophies in the game is that it encourages experimentation and rewards creativity, discovering things such as using the hook with the cannon ball of the S.R.S. or mixing different weapons with the Marksman is what makes every playthrough different Not everyone knows that you can use the railcannons with the coins Not everyone knows you can parry your shotgun shells And that's the point

Screwdriver has the highest potential and highest skill ceiling of any weapon in the game. Yes, even more than the Marksman. I stand by this, and I've even moved screwdriver to my first railcannon slot to make me use it more.

@EreNym3 @1:50 So glad you mentioned DOOM Eternal in a video like this, because it's great starting to my problems with that game and it's idea of the "Fun Zone". It's because it becomes a one dimensional discussion on how to actually get people to learn and "Git Gud" at a game. They're focused doing things as, asking for restricting aspects of player movement mechanics, lowering weapon viability, op enemies with a focus on learning one specific strategy to learn, less player skill expression (or just player driven creative expression) in general, etc. What these ideas do is just does is make the game even less interesting to learn overall, even if I am a good player already. Why, it's because there isn't much get stuck into in comparison to a game like Ultrakill. In Ultrakill, meta, or even learning enemy specific isn't the focus, because it's more concerned about why would want to use the weapon in the first place. So the developers pushed for weapons had something going with them that you would learn about. Something that make want to swap to them, even if didn't all that much damage. Maybe it would be for another combo option, or general crowd control, even new movement option. The choice is yours as player and as the game starts to get harder the only stopping you from using the options you like is skill. DE feels it really doesn't matter how skilled you are, because if you know the setups, then the game is the same way every time... easy. There isn't a niche for some weapons that really needed one.

The amount of times I see people who discourage other players for their weapon choice is so annoying, I understand we all have our opinions on the weapons in ultrakill, some are open to try weapons they didn't like before and some just don't like using some weapons so they unequipped those weapons, I have no problem with that. However there are the types of people who force their personal opinion on others just because they don't like the weapons they used them, I saw someone on discord once post a video of them using a screwdriver and very stylish clip as well, but one person said "Why do you use the screwdriver, you could've just used a nuke or something just overall better.". Thank you for addressing this problem since it is a problem with the ultrakill community and I hope this video changes some people's minds, I love this game but some parts of the community really rubs on me the wrong way. Great vid and keep up the good work.

i just dont like slab marksman because its... kinda useless on my arsenal usually on the way i play i need coins either for streetcleaners, so i need a fast way to shoot them, or for ultraricoshots that doesnt matter the type of revolver you have, so i dont need it on my playstyle. And i use the screwdriver a lot more on levels im not familiar in (for example when i played layer 7 and p-2) because its a reliable source of healing, i mean yeah you can get other forms of healing but when youre still learning how to play the level its way better to have the screwdriver on an enemy. I know about the buff it had and i really want to learn to use it because it looks SO COOL to punch the screwdriver between enemies and also the rocket launcher with the new buff of blue rockets. I used to not use it that much other than flying and hitting enemies in the air. I wouldnt go and tell people "hey stop using that!!!!" but thats my take on why i dont use those (and why i dont like the alt marksman before the buff)

It’s hard to make an ACTIVELY bad weapon choice in ULTRAKILL. I would know; I play without the Knuckleblaster equipped because I just don’t like it. The game literally tells you to reequip it in act 7 because the Gutterman is super hard without it. Do I care? No. I’m playing on the lowest difficulty because I’m here for a power fantasy.

thank you for being awesome and it shows because this video is awesome :)

It’s the same problem that Doom Eternal also had when that had quite an active community. People also used to do a similar type of “tiering” with weapons and slagged off the weaker ones, without realising that a weapon’s power is not the entire reason to use it.

even though i had the sisyphus fight fully memorized, the screwdriver carried me during my p-rank run

Greetings from Russia (as explain of my bullshitty English💀💀) I've never understood these "weapon - ratings", like, dude, please, rank up your style points, switching weapon from time to time, it's disgusting the way you play. Every weapon has it's own using in specific situations, what's the problem of mixing guns while playing the game? These weapons was DESIGNED to be played. Also nice vid oka gd'byye💥💥💥💥

Okay nah I'm sorry, I completely agree with this videos thesis and at the end of the day it isn't that deep, but the ALT piercer is an objective upgrade. The recharge time is unchanged and the piercing shot hits harder. Not worth bullying people about, of course, but still.

Funniest thing is people that play on harmless and still havent pranked any levels telling you what weapon to use

Its kinda sad that the Ultrakill(And a lot Of Fighting games) comunitys are so harsh with tier lists even tho i comited this error in my first days(i used weapons "S tier" Like the stock ray cannon and i realized that i am not ready nor even found fun the way are play it) and i left weapons that are considered "F tier" Like screw Driver... now i regret that a lot... when i tried The Ray Cannon i got stock cuz the tech its needed to use it well its too much for me when and i dont even found it fun i mean Throw 4 coins out of the boss chest and pray for the 4 to hit its something that i dont found even fun then i say if i am gonna play im gonna do it by fun and i start to play with other weapons(Screw driver incluid) here is something interesting My favorite ultrakill weapon its the Piercer(Both Stock and Alt) and the Feedbacker(Parry goes BRRRR) one of my best moments in ultrakill wass beat the swordsmachine with parries and piercer chargeshots at point blank cuz it gives the boss high damage and leave me time to rest and then i had to face sisyphus... i spend so many tries trying to beat him till the point that i had to Rage Quit 2 Times then my brain says enough i tried Screw driver and my 3 favorites tactics Point blank Piercer parries and shotgun swaping (yeah an extended version of the same strategy i used against swordsmachine in my first run) i beat him that wass one of the best moments in my ultrakill run conclution? Dont be harsh nor throw to the trash things cuz a tier list says it try it by yourself maybe you can find something that its even better that you are thinking

ultrakill fanatics will see someone use slab marksman and start FUMING at their mouths

I do agree, the playstyles of ultrakill are quite good. But something past “weapon meta” and stuff if even if you have 2 players who use the same weapons most of the time, you’ll still get 2 completely different playstyles. I use a lot of coins, but while a lot of people like charge backs and stuff I just flick instantly or do a split, I still use ultra coin but not as much as others do even though coins are still my bread and butter. I mostly just kinda instantly pull out the sharpshooter without coins or intent to bounce more that once, I pretty much never over pump the shotgun, I use the rail cannon extreme close to enemies instead of using it’s range, never use the the rocket launcher’s main shot and only use the SRS cannonball, this is all valid and love playing in this quick dps up close and personal playstyle. I once saw a guy who preferred using normal sharpshooter as his bread and butter, go him, that’s valid. Message: people have their own way of what they like to focus on, let them do so.

This video is only talking about Ultrakill but honestly, I've seen a rise in this kind of mindset for the overall gaming sphere for the past 3-4 years, so many people go out of their way to call out other peoples playstyles "un-optimal" for the most arbitrary reason of not being the fastest or easier way to deal with a problem in a game. This really makes me sad because it seems that a lot of people are starting to see that video-games are nothing more than a chore that needs to be done in the most efficient/fastest way possible instead of doing what will yield more enjoyment for you personally. I for once will always advocate for people to stay away from trying to follow any kind of meta, even in competitive games as 90% of the time the meta only matters for tournament level players, it is way better to try to figure how you want to play on your own instead of following a guide on how to play efficiently.

actually amazing video please make more videos like this on ultrakill

screwdriver is my go to railgun variant. i dont care if its meta or not i will USE IT UNTIL THE DAY I DIE

screwdriver is op , can YOU switch a malicious face cannon through other enemies and keep doing it for literally forever?

i think its unhelpful to just say "everyone is valid" when there are actual buffs that need to happen. there'd be way less reason to buff the screwdriver so that you can defend it now if everyone just called it a good option if necessary and left it at that. now its got some damage potential to justify using there'd be way less reason to buff slabsman if people just were fine with it. instead, its about to get a buff, making all slabs a more powerful and fun option and finally giving us a decent sustained combo that doesnt involve the shotgun. i think nailgun is the next thing on the cutting board. its in the same slot as superweapons, the saws and overheat nailgun, the unmaykrs to the railcannon's bfg, and yet its worse to use than even normal weapons like the shotgun. it has literally less than HALF the damage output of the attractor saw and overheat nail, and dont get me started on how the overheat saw is just ridiculous. 21 damage, the equivalent of nearly the full charge on the blue nail/saw, in one projectile?? that recharges in 8 seconds, way faster than the other saw or nails. thats incredible. yea, dont bully people over weapon choice, but dont pretend like every weapon is balanced. projectile boosts give more style than an ultraricoshot. blue nail has objectively bad dps once you start chaining all your other guns properly and use saw. some things need changing.

I've seen a guy doing ultrakill blindfolded - slab marksman was his main weapon, and for a good reason (it doing more damage per shot in a run where every action is measured precisely); so there's that - the most ridiculed weapon being most useful in one of the most hardcore ways to play the game

I do think that harassing players is never acceptable, but I do wonder if the screwdriver would've still been buffed if people weren't vocal about how underwhelming it is. I do hope options like Attractor Nailgun and Slab Marksmen get buffed in the future though. (Especially the first one, I'm really having a hard time figuring out what its use case is.)

Me personally, I triple-wield alt revolver. Fight me.

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im always switching weapons and weapon variants to keep my style meter up because i cant do super stylish stuff and switching weapons all the time gives better bonuses, so i end up enjoying every weapon a lot of the time, especially in the cyber grind, where i can find a use for each weapon

I agree with basically 99% of your argument, except that the only problem is with Mayo's response to ULTRAKILL, that is, the "default piercer" bit at the beginning. It's not that his playstyle is 'bad' or 'wrong', but, in my opinion, the way he went about explaining it was terrible. Rather than present proper arguments about his viewpoint, he instead spent the video insulting and shitting on ULTRAKILL while praising Doom Eternal like the best game of all time. I think that many in the community can agree that it isn't his viewpoint on things, rather the attitude attached to those opinions.

It's literally a game about style I never understood why people complain about non meta choices

the entire point of this game is impratical but fun stuff who cares if another weapon does a better job

I love and have a use for every weapon in the game. While some are more situational than others, they’re all fun to use. I actually really like using the screwdriver, specifically for keeping mindflayers in place when I don’t get a chance to instakill them, and maurice instakills. And while the firestarter I find to be pretty situational, I think it’s great against insurrections. I’ve also taken a liking to railcoining and chargebacks now that I’ve learned to do them properly.

Just watching this lad play the game showcasing that the screwdriver could transfer to other enemies via parry is quite a spectacle! It’s so cool!!! I just love this game’s unique and creative style

i don't use the screwdriver often but it really came in handy for minos and sysyphus. one specific but genuinely useful niche is all i need.

...isnt the whole point of these games switching it up like dmc and not using what's "most effective" and just do shit that's cool

The screwdriver is so good why do people hate on it ive found it crazy useful

Imagine if people playing ratchet & clank were made fun of because they didn't play the game like speedrunners do. Also frankly a tier list in ultrakill makes little sense considering the lack of opportunity cost for using most weapons. The only time it makes sense is when trying to evaluate weapon variants but other than that people just kinda use what they think will either be most effective or coolest in the moment, and a weapon tier list will very rarely help with that.

To use the games main inspiration as an example, DMC3 often has players deliberately using sub-optimal or "bad" moves as a means of self-expression and being stylish. Otherwise you'd simply have people jump-cancelling Helm Breaker over and over again, since while that's certainly optimal, it's also really bland and boring (See un-nerfed slab swapping as an example). If how you be stylish in Ultrakill involves you using pretty odd or "bad" choices, then more power to you, because thats simply how you've chosen to be stylish in a game that rewards style and self-expression.

I agree with the point that people can play however they want and you shouldn’t mock others for their playstyles but there are objectively superior options in most cases. If you don’t take the game too seriously that won't matter but for people like myself who value practicality above all else there is a meta for weapons that are better or worse than others.

as much as I enjoy Ultrakill yeah there is SUCH an annoying part of the community that constantly feels the need to point out "ermmm why aren't you doing this?? why are you using this weapon??" like... to this day i still get at least one comment a week about "why are you using slab marksman don't you know it's BAD xD" on videos that were made the day early access released, when there was even less of a meta and also slab swapping existed which was busted it's rly unfortunate this game attracts those kinds of people because it makes interacting with the community in almost any capacity (especially newer fans - I don't like gatekeeping but on average the more recent someone got into the game the more obsessed they are with being "optimal") incredibly irritating

I think people have just forgotten that ULTRAKILL is a skill expression game and creativity is the core philosophy of the game, but people choose efficiency and try to isolate those who just play differently. This is coming from a person who uses full auto, microwave beam and remote detonate in doom eternal, which left me looked down upon by others. Each gun has their own niche and whichever you choose reflects your personality in the game, unless its constructive critizism don't listen to them.

I think people often forget that video games are supposed to be fun

I've seen people hate on screwdriver users because it doesn't give a lot of style points but like bruh- the primary point of the game isn't to accumulate style it's to have fun, and players will be doing that in their own different ways

ulmbtra krill screwdriber gud??!?!?!??!?

BIG UPS THE DESKTOP BUDDY

I initially thought that the screwdriver sucked until doing Minos and Sisyphus. Damage dealing with my playstyle is NOT a problem, I do not need the railcannons to deal extra damage to clown on them slightly faster. I also don't really need the style because I still managed to P rank both bosses using it on violent. However, I could CERTAINLY benefit from consistently getting health back *on top* of the health I'm already getting for some much needed survivability, and I'm probably gonna use it on Gabrie Act 3 because I find him and V2 to be far less 'readable' than Minos and Sisyphus. I do wish it had more tech though, since it's useful but a little boring. All it really has is hitting it into different enemies.

it's not that mayo proudly uses the default weapon the whole way through, it's that he uses his blind arrogance to dunk on ultrakill for the most non-issues, and proceeds to downplay reasonable explanations from others.

plus there are ways to use the screwdriver that make it insanely useful, such as punching it to do massive damage when it is already in an enemy, or using it to lock a mindflayer in place.

3:02 That chargeback was diabolical

3:04 gave him the sign of the cross special ➕ 🙏

GOOD NEWS! The alt marksman is getting buffed next update. I belive evrytime you shoot a coin it resets the hammer of all the slab varaints equipped. Atleast thats what i think hakita posted on the twitter. I'm not 100% sure.

This was the first result when I searched "ultrakill nailgun" I'm cooked

Hey, I think I do some experimentation. Good video!

It's always the UK " Pros " who say the Screwdriver is bad. Literally, everyone knows that its ment for bosses and niche cases. Its just common sense..

honestly, this debate is pretty pointless because while there isn't really an objective worst weapon, there is an objective best and that's a DYING MAURICE BABYYYYYYYY

I know this may sound a bit odd, but I prefer using slab sharpshooter over slab piercer for a variety of reasons such as being able to stop projectiles which comes in handy more times than I can count (You can also do some sick high damage tech with that's easy to do btw).

Tier lists ultimately doesnt matter at all, genuinely. Violence is too easy of a difficulty to warrent it, even p-ranking prime sanctums doesnt require "optimal" weapons and combos. Only time you'd need some kind of optimal play is speedrunning, maybe cybergrind past wave 50. But not in regular play.

I feel like anyone that actually thinks the screwdriver is bad is either the top of the top in terms of skill (0.1%) or they geniunely haven't played the game at a hard enough difficulty to see how useful it is, the screwdriver is like the only reason I was able to beat sisyphus prime, it's amazing for when you're first encountering bosses and aren't 100% sure what the patterns are like, I love the screwdriver, its so useful

the screwdriver is good when you’re screwpunching or need safeish healing, the malicious is useful for nuking and maybe some groups of enemies, the electric railcannon is good for line shots and railcoins. each weapon has its use

bro you're showing me new coin tech in your broll alone whatever you say about this game i'm 100% believing.

I played through with only the Alt Marksman and the default blue variants of the other weapons and it was the most fun I've had in Ultrakill

Great video and epic lightning chargeback on Maurice 🗿 👍

I use the Alt Marksman just because the sound effects are cool :) thick chonky sfx is extremely cool

Its just like the Undertale community, except instead of story choices its playstyle choices.

I love your editing style and want to learn how to edit like you. What do you use to edit?

i love the screwdriver although i do wish doing a +GIGA DRILL BREAK was as flashy as it sounds

Not really a screwdriver fan, but hey, it has saved my ass a couple precious moments

yeah, all weapons are good, i just personally don't use some core eject shotgun might have some cool high-skill tech, but outside of that it gets outclassed by pump charge shotgun and rocket launchers screwdriver/malicious railcannons are good, but the painfully long cooldown shared between them forces picking 1 railcannon and sticking with it, and personally, it's the electric RC for me knuckleblaster fist feels very niche and outright worse than feedbacker until stage 7-2 "Light Up The Night" thanks to guttermen

I've used (and still somewhat frequently use) the normal blue nailgun in Ultrakill, as I prefer the accurate rapid-fire behaviour of the blue nailgun despite its low burst damage. I know and acknowledge its drawbacks but I still run it because I enjoy using it as it feels more satisfying to mix it up when quickly weapon swapping. Is it less effective than sawblade stacking? Yes. is it not as good at dealing with crowds? Also yes. Do I know these things and still choose to use it? Absolutely.

Wish my game ran like that

i absolutely love ultrakill, and i love absolutely every single weapon inside it. practically any time i load into a level i change up my alternate variants and sometimes even the orders of my weapons, like putting malicious first if i plan on nuking a lot. its a fun game no matter how you choose to play it, and even if i objectively play "best" when i'm using a pretty standard loadout, i always try and do something new. hell, sometimes i even change my weapon binds slightly to see if getting a new muscle memory would make my gameplay different

As a screwdriver user, I see this as an absolute win

I’m guilty of perpetuating some of this elitism myself, as I’m an editor for Oofrian’s RU-vid channel, and I made a “guide” on the railcannon. However, after notable backlash of me grifting on to the screwdriver is bad bandwagon, I went out of my way to make a further in-depth guide on the Screwdriver, since I kind of realized that the game is designed around accessibility as well.

novas gonna have a fit over this one

i hate how this only has 39,000 views

Completely agree with you, there is no real meta, just what works best for your playstyle. I suck ass with hit scan weapons, so I use the regular marksman, shotgun punch's, cannon balls, and saw traps to get my way through the game, and the best part is that the game actually encourages my playstyle and lets me work around my own weaknesses. I think that a lot of people in the community are too cybergrind-pilled and can't see the viability of certain weapons outside of the incredibly specific and consistent parameters of CG. I love cannon ball shots and I will die on the hill that they are insane for crowd control and explosive damage.

good video overall but I think that doom eternal example was kinda stupid and goes both ways, by your logic the ultrakill knuckleblaster can be labelled as "objectively useless" because the devs made an enemy made for the knuckleblaster exclusively to be effective against (gutterman) since nobody was using it The microwave beam is one of the many weapon mods that can actually be essential to your arsenal, the community have made many posts videos and tutorials on discussing it, like many of the other weapon mods in doom, and there's nothing wrong with adding in enemies that require specific weapons/weapon mods to defeat since ultrakill does this SAME THING

0:26 too be fair to the people saying this about Mayo, he did use the default piercer only, said it's the exact same, said it got the job done and then immediately said the game is shit because he wasn't using the other weapons and didn't feel like the game was trying to, which is pretty dumb

I completely agree. However to add to this: Even if you're equally good with all of the weapons and have no preference, there is STILL no best weapon because they're all useful under different circumstances. I would however like to say that Mayo is an exception to the things pointed out in the video. It's not that people think the piercer is bad, it's that he specifically went out of his way to search for the least fun way to play the game and then complained that it wasn't fun