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The UNTOLD Story of The BLACK CONFEDERATES 

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Explore the hidden truth about Black Confederate Soldiers in the US Civil War in our documentary. Discover how black soldiers and slaves faced brutal discipline and suffered the grim realities of war. Hear gripping, lesser-known stories of suffering and sacrifice in this defining time.
Intro - 0:00
Blacks in Confederacy - 0:50
Blacks in Confederate Camps - 1:40
Black Confederates in the Battle of Gettysburg - 4:06
Black Confederate Soldiers - 6:42
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@mikestone1815
@mikestone1815 5 месяцев назад
Confederate general Patrick Cleburne suggested the arming of the slaves, but he was told that would be admitting that slaves were equal to their own soldiers and what if they turned against the Confederates.
@TheGuitarReb
@TheGuitarReb 4 месяца назад
Well if you rode for Gen. Nat Forrest, you were usually more afraid of him than you were of the YANKEES.
@Disco_Fish_Jockey
@Disco_Fish_Jockey 4 месяца назад
Yeah, makes sense for the Confederacy to NOT use blacks as soldiers or anything other than animal labor. That'd be like Hitler allowing Jewish men to join the SS, would kind of fuck up and flip over everything the nation was founded on.
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 2 месяца назад
And was refused.
@jason200912
@jason200912 Месяц назад
Politically he could have just responded that they were not equal and compared them to an army of sidekicks to maintain the southern racist view he needed to hold for political reasons
@TheGuitarReb
@TheGuitarReb Месяц назад
Patrick Cleburne also said "If we lose this war, the USA will become more despotic at home and more aggressive abroad."
@tonymickens8803
@tonymickens8803 2 месяца назад
Bass Reeves was forced to fight with His Master.
@bronxbomerpito7286
@bronxbomerpito7286 2 месяца назад
And you saw how that turned out for his master right😂
@tonymickens8803
@tonymickens8803 2 месяца назад
@@bronxbomerpito7286 Yep!
@ellaw356
@ellaw356 28 дней назад
I don't think people understand just how many mixed southerners there were. Yes, many "looked" white then, bc everyone worked outside.
@jason200912
@jason200912 Месяц назад
They were allowed to fight basically as unrecognized camp servants. Often you'd see them switch sides to the union too.
@frankpedigo5944
@frankpedigo5944 5 месяцев назад
There is a Black Confederate cemetery in Tarpon Springs , Florida
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 4 месяца назад
It's an effort to erase the Confederacy's support of slavery. These men were not soldiers. They were slaves.
@Yaman328
@Yaman328 3 месяца назад
1) I wonder why they were all entered together as "Black Confederates" 2) Were they really "Black Confederates" if they a) had no choice? b) Were relegated to non-combat roles? please, enlighten me!!
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 2 месяца назад
@@Yaman328 I'll make an effort to enlighten you, but these days telling the truth is a revolutionary act. So allow me to offer some points you may not have considered. The reason the Conferates seceded, which was and still is a State's constitutional right, was because the then Republican Party was an open border party, ergo come one comd all, but don a blue uniform, or pay $300 to opt out. This means that although there was no official policy, ergo State wide to enlist able men of colour, each State did as they saw fit. The truth of how the South was run can be seen in their varied uniforms, yes grey and butternut, but tunics varied in style and embroidery. Another example to consider the County in Tenessee that ex slaves inhabited, unmolested, free. Consider Newton Knight and Jones County Mississippi, it seceded from the Confederacy and fought an internicine battle with said confederacy. The film 'The Free State of Jones' starring Matthew Mcconaughey, not sure I spelt his name correctly, but the film tells of this very interesting period. Nathan Bedford Forrest rode with approximately 40-45 men of colour, negros and it is said thst 7 were in his personal body guard. Also, consider the teamsters, ambulance wagons, vital wagons, munitions wagons, farriers, cooks, guards who were loyal to the conferacy. Why? Home may not be perfect, but it is home and one look at the slaves up North, ergo Delaware and Maryland, they were still enslaved after Linvoln's phoney emancipation proclamation, which was directed to the States that seceded! Well, that's like me saying the money in your pocket belongs to me. You'd be right in saying bloody cheek, come and get if you think your notion is valid. Consider this, Blackrock and war mongering gang want a progit making war, which gives the Talmudidt banksters what they want, but you civilan could careless about the undemocratic Neo Nazi Ukraine or the Christian hating Israelis that spit in front of Churches in Jerusalem and won't denounce the Talmud which says the Messiah is 'boiling in hot excrement', no lie, look it up. The point is, the war between the States has a biased narrative, even I, an English chap can see that.
@peterraab3411
@peterraab3411 2 месяца назад
SALUTE!!!
@kurtsherrick2066
@kurtsherrick2066 2 месяца назад
​@@Yaman328 There is a Precivil War Church in Tennessee. White were buried on on side of the Church and the Black Family Members are buried on the other side. The black side is beautiful and has amazing Ironworks and beautiful headstones. There are Black Confederates buried there and the CSA Symbol is on their headstones. I would say where it is but I don't want vandalism at the Historic Sight.
@robinlacue3431
@robinlacue3431 Месяц назад
They also were bodyguards for the Confederates.
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 Месяц назад
Watch the documentary, 'Who brought the slaves to America', very useful information, about who and what aaaand possibly why?
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz 4 месяца назад
Here is something interesting and surprising I found. According to Wikipedia (yes I know) The grandson of former south Carolina slave (and slave owner) William Ellison Jr might be a "black confederate" "A grandson fought informally with the regular Confederate Army and survived the war." "On March 27, 1863, John Wilson Buckner, William Ellison's oldest grandson, enlisted in the 1st South Carolina Artillery.[17]" What do we know about this claim?
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 Месяц назад
Find that law, I would really love to see it, oh confident one.
@sammyfolsom3928
@sammyfolsom3928 10 дней назад
So proud of those Brave and Honorable Black Confederate soldiers! I Honor them no different than the Honorable White Confederate soldiers i see no color thank you all for your Honorable Service to the Confederate States of America!
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately, this is not thoroughly researched. There were not only teamsters and body servants, there were actual armed soldiers in the ranks. There are many reasons why there would be, research will aid your understanding. There was never an official call up, however, needs must and the Union were a pretty nasty bunch, when they encountered Southern plantaions, cities and villages. This lie, continues, but it cannot last.
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 2 месяца назад
There are so many lies in what yihnjust said that it's unbelievable
@TheGuitarReb
@TheGuitarReb 2 месяца назад
@@GoTfan-eb8tk Look! Go ahead and believe what you wish! War is PURE HELL ON EARTH! I am a very old person. and can remember as a small child the old folks closing the door on us children. We would press our ear to the door and hear them talking about how GG Grandmother almost got raped by the U.S.C.T. and then some great hurricane that once came and blew down the chimney. Jesus said "I am the way, the truth" As a Christian, I don't plan on going to Hell by telling lies.
@kurtsherrick2066
@kurtsherrick2066 2 месяца назад
​@@GoTfan-eb8tk No he is telling the truth. Have you ever heard of Holt Collier. He was a Confederate Scout and Sharpshooter. He killed hundreds of Union Soldier's. Holt was the first Blackman to be Acquitted of killing a Whiteman in the State of Mississippi. He killed the man because the man killed his Master who Holt loved. There are photos of Black Confederate Artillery Battery. Forrest was the First General to make a Special Forces Unit. There were 9 Blacks in his personal body guards. They had Uniforms a rifle and up to 3 pistols in their saddlebags. Forrest said there were no better Confederates than his Blackmen. There was not one of them that wouldn't have taken a bullet for Forrest. He had about 69 Blacks when he Surrendered.
@sprsmoke
@sprsmoke Месяц назад
@@GoTfan-eb8tk Why can't you point them out?
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk Месяц назад
@sprsmoke It was literally a law that the Confederate Congress passed that forbade slaves in the army. The rationale was that if blacks made good soldiers, then their theory of slavery was wrong. Meanwhile, while you're so focused on black Confederates (of which there are basically none despite attempts at revisionism), nearly 10% of the Union Army consisted of black soldiers, who were routinely shown no mercy by Confederates because they were former slaves.
@markbrown375
@markbrown375 5 месяцев назад
Brig. Gen. Stand Watie (CSA) principal Chief Native American Slave Ownership Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, Seminole
@floriangeyer3454
@floriangeyer3454 5 месяцев назад
last CSA-general to surrender June 23th 1865
@angeloflexin3
@angeloflexin3 Месяц назад
yes they is part of history
@TruthFiction
@TruthFiction 5 месяцев назад
I'm going to go with the statement made by Judah Philip Benjamin, CSA Secretary of War and Secretary of State along with being the Attorney General of the Confederacy that "no negro ever served in the armies of the Confederacy." Direct statements from the men who lived through it and enacted and enforced policy hold a lot more weight than the claims of one modern "historian" who's main source for his claims is the word of Frederick Douglas, who was willing to say anything to get the Union to start enlisting Black soldiers so they could prove they were the equal of white soldiers. The other evidence he has were the formation of units of mixed race which were never issued weapons at all and the Louisiana Native Guards (which predated the civil war) who were directly forbidden from fighting for the Confederacy and which promptly declared for the Union when New Orleans was captured less than a month after the start of the war.
@Dontwlookatthis
@Dontwlookatthis 5 месяцев назад
You are flatly wrong. Think about this. PGT Beauregard was black. There were other Negro officers including generals as well, some being half black and half Indian. No negro slave was forced to fight but freemen joined the fight and were not segregated like the Northern army did. This about this. If slaves were treated as badly as is often uniformly claimed, why was there no slave revolt during the war and whey did so many elect to stay with the plantation after the war? Reconstruction was so bad and hard on everyone that whites were poverty stricken so badly that Mississippi did not fully recover from that until the late 1990s. So the slaves did not stay to work for economic gain even though Will Sherman claimed to them that when the war was over they would all get 40 acres and a mule. It goes on and on, including during reconstruction black Federal soldiers brought the Loyalty League to the south, they wore black pointy hoods and sheets, burned crosses in the yards of Negro family homes and said if they did not renounce the Confederacy they would be Lynched. Seeing the notices that they put up, a former Confederate general and a doctor in Columbia, Tennessee, made up parody notices making fun of the Loyalty League notices, creating a counter balance in name only, called the Ku Klux Klan, and their silly names of their leaders, The grand dragon and so on were direct parody. That was the two authors only ties to the KKK, but after reconstruction former Confederate soldiers began to say that if they had know that peace would bring reconstruction, they never would have surrendered. They took up the mantle of the parody and formed guerrilla bands to carry on the fight. It was not until they had stopped and many in the north and California took it up out of racist ideas to scare blacks in those areas so they could better discriminate. It grew until it included the US Supreme Court chief justice who swore in the newly elected US President and in 1923 there were an estimated 20 million whites across America who were members, and they held a sort of Million Klan march in Washington, DC. But then in Minnesota, a klan leader began lynching blacks that caused the quick decline of the organization. Today's KKK, or rather the one that ended in the 1960s was what the leader from Minnesota made it. Today's KKK is mainly a bunch of idiots who think they can recreate the old KKK but don;t have the support or guts to do it. So don't dismiss the idea of black Confederate soldiers just because of one Confederate leader in the Confederate congress wrote.
@TruthFiction
@TruthFiction 5 месяцев назад
@@Dontwlookatthis "Beauregard was the third child of Hélène Judith de Reggio, of mixed French and Italian ancestry and descendant of Francesco M. de Reggio, member of an Italian noble family whose family had migrated first to France and then to Louisiana, and her husband, Jacques Toutant-Beauregard, of French and Welsh ancestry." Neither were colored, so not "half black" by any stretch. He did have several cousins of color. Now, you want to argue that negro's joined to fight for the Confederacy, but ignore that the act of allowing a negro to bear arms and fight alongside white men was a direct attack on everything the Confederacy represented, in addition to a violation of it's very Constitution. Maybe you shouldn't have to stretch so far to argue a case before you stop and think about why you need to argue to begin with. "This about this. If slaves were treated as badly as is often uniformly claimed, why was there no slave revolt during the war and whey did so many elect to stay with the plantation after the war? " How about LACK OF OPTIONS? They had no money, no jobs, no food, etc etc. That pretty much means that when the only thing they can do is remain on the plantation and work if they want to eat, then yeah, many of them will do exactly that. It's not hard to understand why when you think about it. You somehow equate that to mean they were treated well, and perhaps that might be correct for some, but for the vast majority it was stay there or starve. The rest of your comment is pure gibberish.
@levitculp2513
@levitculp2513 5 месяцев назад
black sailors served throughout the Confederate navy including on the Ram Albermarle.
@TruthFiction
@TruthFiction 5 месяцев назад
@@Dontwlookatthis Seems the reply was deleted. Beauregard had some part-black cousins but was in fact, not black at all. His family tree isn't a state secret or anything so you could actually check for yourself and see that. In addition, the mixed race regiments of the South were never even issued weapons.
@Dontwlookatthis
@Dontwlookatthis 5 месяцев назад
@TruthFiction He was in fact Creole and not white. Telling me anything other than that is misinformation. Some southerns and nearly all. northern interested in the Civil War do not want any non white Confederates and perhaps you are one of these. After the Civil War, a kind lady who supported Jefferson Davis lent her mansion to him and also established a home for old Confederate which was not segregated. And in fact, the last veteran to die was a Black Confederate soldier in the late 50s.
@eflint1
@eflint1 2 месяца назад
Horribly researched. Even Stephen Douglas admitted that slaves would enthusiastically fight for the South if promised freedom and a patch of land to own and farm.
@bronxbomerpito7286
@bronxbomerpito7286 2 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂. So the guys that were fighting to keep their property AKA slaves were going to give some promise and deliver freedom to their best pieces of furniture😂😂😂. Ok. And you think the slaves would have been volunteering and droves huh😂😂😂. Because some random white dude from Illinois happened to say so😂😂 you want to believe that for some weird reason that's crazy
@eflint1
@eflint1 Месяц назад
@bronxbomerpito7286 Frederick Douglas thought the slaves would have volunteered in droves to fight for the South if freedom and land ownership was in rhe mix. Take it up with him. And the owners were not abstractly fighting to keep their slave property. They were fighting for independence and the majority would have sacrificed slavery for a country free of Yankees.
@dannyslater2174
@dannyslater2174 25 дней назад
Stephen Douglas was a blatant racist with no moral credibility.
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 5 месяцев назад
None of them were allowed to serve in the army, but whatever floats your boat.
@Thickcurves
@Thickcurves 5 месяцев назад
Even the black and white image they showed, has been proved to be black soldiers in the union army. No more then a handful of black soldiers ever served in the CSA. The laborers where eiither slaves or pressed into service.
@joshkeech1104
@joshkeech1104 5 месяцев назад
Read more
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 5 месяцев назад
@@joshkeech1104 It was literally a law passed by the Confederate Congress
@wesleybusbin
@wesleybusbin 5 месяцев назад
@@Thickcurvesthat’s actually a lie
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz 5 месяцев назад
@@wesleybusbin Nope, they were not allowed to arm slaves. How stupid do you have to be to even consider that kind of hooey? There entire system was based on fears of slave insurrection.
@MarcSmith-uz8vq
@MarcSmith-uz8vq 4 месяца назад
200 soldiers at least fought for the south.
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 4 месяца назад
And how many black men fought for the Union?
@Timopechancanogh
@Timopechancanogh Месяц назад
Those were nit slaves fighting for the south those were bkack land owners
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 Месяц назад
Now you have to consider what slavery was and how it worked. Also, please bare in mind, slaves are people, personslities, families and often lived along side their owners. They were fed, clothed, medical needs attended, taught and trained. Also please be reminded that very few Southerners could AFFORD to own a slave, so there would be many a confederate who would have resented slave owners who owned 25 slaves or more being exempt from service! Also, keep in mind, those who owned slaves, would want them clean, orderly, polite, well attired. Today, if you saw a family whose children stank, dressed in rags not attending school, WOULD THEY BE REPORTED? Well the scandal of brutal slave owners had its own lesson. By the way Nat Turner's slave owner, was a good man, if Nat Turner's confessions is true.
@neahkrayou8730
@neahkrayou8730 13 дней назад
Revisionism. Try again.
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 13 дней назад
@@neahkrayou8730 Explain, try. Present a case, or at least critique my meagre offerings. Trust me, it's just a snippet of that which has you blind spotted. I don't mean to offend, but I too was lied to.
@neahkrayou8730
@neahkrayou8730 13 дней назад
@@iqbianorganus3388 I called your comment an attempt at revisionism for the following reasons: 1. You said slaves were human beings and treated as such? 2. You said slaves were cared for, properly clothed and groomed to look presentable. 3. You said slaves were given proper medical care. 4. You said slaves were well fed. 5. You said slaves were given proper education. And I said bullshit. What plantation did you visit that had all these nice things seemingly comparable to standard living? Why will we even bother to use the word 'slaves' if those things were true?
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 13 дней назад
@@neahkrayou8730 Thank you, I appreciate your willingness to discuss matters. I thought I'd say that and make it clear before I address your concerns and ghen proceed with the truth.
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 13 дней назад
@@neahkrayou8730 No 1/. You said slaves were human beings and treated as such. Indeed I did and I stand by that immovable fact! This is not to say that the generational chattel slavery, instituted by the Ashke-Nazi Jew and the imbeded Sephardim, earlier Ashke-Nazi settlers/shapeshifters. Their cruely, was well known and documented. Alas, with the advent of movies and television, they have been able to reshape history, extracating themselves and putting all blame of cruelty on the Christian. Whilst this maybe true in some instances, Hollywood will not have you know the truth. Love or hate them, but the Nation of Islam published a three volume work, entitled 'The secret relationship between blacks and Jews' Vol 1, II & III, albeit Vol III focuses on the Leo Frank scandal. For more on this, watch the documentary, 'Who brought the slaves to America'. It was well known and discussed in the very early 19th century in the UK, that a better fed workforce, is a happier workforce and more productive. This you will find under the work of Welshman ROBERT OWEN. During the height of the Industrial Revolution, he a factory owner, concerned with the plight of the poor and destitute workforce made ground breaking changes. He also sought to instill a moral standing, such was the prevailing, ill mannered, often violent, low ethics of his workforce, typical of the landscape. As for plantations, prior to the war of Northern aggression, a survey/assessment of the Southern plantation sytem and state of plantations was carried out by the Northerner Frederick Law Olmsted, published as 'The Cotton Kingdom'. Such readings will inform you of the cost to purchase a slave at auction, no paltry sum and the average southerner simply did not have the means to afford or accomodate one. At this point, I truly wish you, assuming, African Americans would actually READ the book 'Uncle Tom's cabin' and grow up! The book hasvquite a bit to teach a repeater and more to teach an 'I think I know it' ignoramous. I am not putting you in that category. In closing on your first point, what good would it do, to purchase a slave to work, starve him, barely clothe him, ignore his health, be it a cold, fever, toothache or sprained ankle? It would be an expensive hobby to simple purchase for sport and destroy the business model no?
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 2 месяца назад
Now I know my comments are being removed! Well at least YOU KNOW, I've whooped every commentaor that says there no 'Black' confederate soldiers, with the facts you don't want people to be educated on. I also gave three sources, no doubt you'll snap up the books and swot up. The point here is, If I am going to educate the masses, leave my comments alone, I'm sharing with everyone, not just you.
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 2 месяца назад
Let's have your sources then. More likely you have a persecution complex.
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 2 месяца назад
​​@@GoTfan-eb8tk'Persecution complex'? So that comment comes from someone WHO KNEW WHAT I WROTE AND OFFERRED THREE SOURCES! Gotcha! Done in my best Dave Chappelle voice. If you were as strong on your position, you would not need to pull mine down.lol I bet you wish you hadn't done it now?
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 2 месяца назад
@@iqbianorganus3388 Not really. You have given no sources anywhere. Lay them out. Go on.
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 2 месяца назад
@@GoTfan-eb8tk Not really? Scroll back and quote any comment I've made, THAT YOU'VE ALLOWED, to remain up, that implies one iota of 'persecution complex', victimhood, or any such ruse. The fact that one of my comments was long, detailed and for context of a particular matter, I relayed that my parents came from the Caribbean and that I was born in London England! Now, at no point did I suggest, imply that I had an issue with the Country of my birth, but for someone who read my detsiled exposition, feared the knowledge, but was aware of issues politcal and racial, may jump to conclusions and make the comment you did. I metely stuck to the facts and those facts destroyed your biased narrative. All you have done is to inform me amd everyone else that you are not as well researched on all thing pre antebellum Civil war or post. That gives me an idea, since your post said all that it did. I think I'll write an essay on the matter, construct my bibliography, possibly do a slide presentation, THEN PROCCED TO PUT UP A YOU TUBE VIDEO, in which YOU will be free to comment on.lmao How's about them scrambled eggs, a little chives and truffle drizzled over?
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 2 месяца назад
@@iqbianorganus3388 Did you take your pills this morning?
@stevelauda5435
@stevelauda5435 5 месяцев назад
I thought the declaration of emancipation was made after Gettysburg not in 1862.
@Dontwlookatthis
@Dontwlookatthis 5 месяцев назад
It was made in late 1863. The emancipation proclamation was a military tool designed to get states in the Confederacy to quit the Confederacy and rejoin the Union where they were guaranteed to be able to keep their slaves. In it, the Emancipation was only good where Union soldiers occupied Confederate territory. In 1865, seeing the writing on the wall, the Mississippi Legislature voted to free the slaves and rejoin the Union. But most of Mississippi was occupied and the officers in charge told the Legislature it had no status or ability to free the slaves, and slavery persisted until the 14th amendment was ratified. So much of Texas was never occupied, so slavery persisted unit the 14th amendment was ratified in 1866, so you have what is called Juneteenth Day. That was when slaves all over the Confederacy and in the slave states that fought for the Union, plus Kentucky which was neutral, and in West Virginia, were freed. Some people think the Civil War is a simple black and white thing, a war to free the slaves, but it is really a very complicated thing. Ever noticed that in the Northern states to call to enlist was to restore the union? The call to free the slaves never happened. It would be like if we had a civil war now and a movement to abolish abortion was made and ratified, and then later the war was called the war to stop abortion.
@stevelauda5435
@stevelauda5435 5 месяцев назад
@Dontwlookatthis thank you for that info, I always thought that slavery was only one of many issues that the south was fighting for. And thanks again on the answer for late 1863.
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 5 месяцев назад
You're both deluded.@@stevelauda5435
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 5 месяцев назад
@@Dontwlookatthis Ah, a Lost Causer. It was about slavery. I refer you to Alexander Stephens' cornerstone speech as well as the Ordinances of Secession
@Dontwlookatthis
@Dontwlookatthis 5 месяцев назад
@GoTfan-eb8tk Okay, why did Virginia secede? Tennessee? Why did Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and other slaves states not secede and keep their slaves? But before I go to the trouble of writing more, you are boring and rhetorical and have swallowed too little to give such a huge burp.
@mariocanfora9117
@mariocanfora9117 Месяц назад
The Confederates never used blacks in battle; their Congress passed a law to prohibit it
@Timopechancanogh
@Timopechancanogh Месяц назад
That is not true
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 Месяц назад
Please provide that law!
@kurtsherrick2066
@kurtsherrick2066 16 дней назад
Nathan Bedford Forrest had 9 blacks in his Green Army and Bodyguards. They had uniforms, a rifle and up to 3 Pistols in their Saddle Bags. Everyone of them would have taken a bullet for Forrest. He had 60 Blacks on his Rolls. Forrest said there were no better Confederates than his blackmen.
@renedupont6116
@renedupont6116 5 месяцев назад
Official history always lies, even when forced to tell some truths. You might or might not do some work on black soldiers in the Union troops but do not count on printed reports about them. As an example: According to the official history, no black soldier did combat duty in WW2 in Europe. German "Landsers" tell you another story if you had the occasion to meet one. I go so far as to assume that it was the black soldier who turned the tide in 1863, after the Gettysburg butchery.
@bronxbomerpito7286
@bronxbomerpito7286 2 месяца назад
Where are you getting this information from?
@bronxbomerpito7286
@bronxbomerpito7286 2 месяца назад
@@renedupont6116 what do you mean according to no official records black people served in WW2 ? We got countless black people that got medals from the military publicly
@bronxbomerpito7286
@bronxbomerpito7286 2 месяца назад
@@renedupont6116 and why should I look into the German lancer for? I looked it up it's not a newspaper what's the purpose why would you take that as a source of information to world history
@renedupont6116
@renedupont6116 2 месяца назад
@@bronxbomerpito7286 what kind of f°°° troll are you?
@lemmdus2119
@lemmdus2119 5 месяцев назад
I love your channel!
@UnhingedPast
@UnhingedPast 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the kind words!
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 2 месяца назад
​@@UnhingedPast Yiur channel is full of pseudo-history. This video alone removes your credibility
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 2 месяца назад
The problem, as I see it with this discussion is that, it appears evident that folks really fail to understand the CONSTITUTION, as well as the reason for the unpleasant fight between the States. If you respect and value the CONSTITUTION, clearly one party was correct and one obviously wrong! That said and from this Englishman of Caribbean heritege, the matter is easily settled. Believe your eyes, they will not deceive you. The question that irks many and they ask for sources, AND WHEN I PUT THEM UP, THEY ARE STRANGELY REMOVED LICKETY FUGGIN QUICK! WHY? I have no fuggin dog in the fight, but the period fascinates me, as it really ought to have been the end of ALL WARS! Did slaves, promised or not, free and free of choice fight for the Confederacy? The modern interpretation is without doubt YES! Now the question is narrowed to ask, did 'black' slaves and freedmen fight for the confederacy as paid soldiers, cavalry, infantry or artillery and navy? Of course they did, why wouldn't they? The numbers are arguable, in terms of those who shouldered arms and saw 'The Elephant', but see it many did. Now the fun starts. Let's take this argument in stages, I said why wouldn't they? Deal with that. As for sources, I spent lady week and this recapping on my sources and I am puzzled as to how I CAN FIND SOME, but y'all in the USA FAIL to do the same? That right there, gave me the confidence to take the best of you on. This not personal, or what I would like it to be, it is what it is. To aid you, in your dutch courage, I have read Leander Sillwell's account, as well as Sam Watkins's enjoyable read, 'Company aytch' and subtitle. None of these books speaks of 'black' confederates. I am jet to read Elijah Hunt Rhodes's account, but I'm content I can defend my position. So fellas, here it is, your chance for victory, if you view this discussion so. I am happy to learn and I'm sure I'll receive some acceptable nuanced positions in this thorny issue. So with that, bid you good luck in your research.
@Silenced23
@Silenced23 4 месяца назад
I never understood why southerners hated people of coIor and yet associated themselves with them. Chin3se men were also a huge sIave gathering and bought. AfrIca still has this problem where they still auction them off and its done by other people of coIor. Amerlca wasn't the biggest habor of them. It was South Korea and not long ago, still had sIaves.
@TheGuitarReb
@TheGuitarReb 2 месяца назад
Southern people never hated black people, we love them. That is why we bought so many of them. What is there to not understand?
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk Месяц назад
@@TheGuitarReb That was why southern senators loved MLK and desegregation, right?
@TheGuitarReb
@TheGuitarReb Месяц назад
@@GoTfan-eb8tk North or South, politicians go whatever way the wind blows and the money flows.
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 Месяц назад
People keep saying that there was a literal law forbidding slaves/freedmen' from enlisting/fighting for, joining the army of the Confederacy. Such a statement is problematic and begs several questions. Now, if it existed, please cite source. Furthermore, if it existed, it will help me with my research. So this appeal of mine, is not a 'Gotcha', it just reminds me of something folks repeat, without a full understanding of what they are saying.
@josephsmith6944
@josephsmith6944 4 месяца назад
It is the Ultimate Abomination to think that Slaves would Fight for the Conferates.😢
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 2 месяца назад
Abomination? Besides watching the TV series 'Roots', a much plagiarised story from the novel 'The African' to which Alex Haley and his Jewish co theif were successfully sued, '12 years a slave' , 'The Amistad' and 'Goodbye Uncle Tom', what books have you read on the Antebellum South pre civil war? Would it be fair and correct for me to say, it's an abomination that African Americans, enlisted in the US army, during WWI under segregation, Jim Crowe, Red lining, Black codes and the 13th Amendment that still, STILL has slavery in place? When they returned in 1919, 'Red summer', ever heard of that? Yet here comes WWII and the African American serves his country again! You do realise that it was well after WWII had ended that President Trumen in 1947 DESEGREGATED the US army! You didn't know that you didn't know, but I know that you cannot refute a word I have said here. I could say so much more, but folks like you who use such bombast language, have no idea outside of Jewish controlled Hollywood and the winners narrative. I can make a sound argument that it was the North who were the true racists and add to that, the cause of the 'Civil war' was not slavery, but big Government using force to override the constitution. The war about slavery was fought prior to the war between the States. That was fought in Missouri and Kansas, I'm sure you've heard of 'Bloody Kansas', 'Beecher's bibles', John Brown etc In future, speak to learn, ask for sources, materials, as opposed to playing the outraged ignoramous.
@bronxbomerpito7286
@bronxbomerpito7286 2 месяца назад
I've read dozen comments so far that believes differently😂😂😂 it's f****** insanity
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 Месяц назад
Then you need to do some genuine research as well as some independent thinking. Don't be lazy, don't be a repeater, don't be biased, it's not that difficult.
@bronxbomerpito7286
@bronxbomerpito7286 Месяц назад
@@iqbianorganus3388 what research have you done that nobody else here has done? What secret text have you found
@iqbianorganus3388
@iqbianorganus3388 Месяц назад
@@bronxbomerpito7286 I have purchased and read several books I can refer to. I have read many essays from historians, of both sides of this debate. I have watched the many lectures online and certainly understand that the winners of wars are not necessarily the 'good guys'. For instance, I have heard many, even esteemed historians, professors lay people/repeaters say the war between the States was fought over slavey. This is a blatant and most obvious lie, if you care to think it through. The war over slavery was fought a couple of years prior to the war for Federal control, ergo big government, which defies the constitution! I speak of Missouri and Kansas, ergo 'Bloody Kansas', which culminated with the execution of John Brown, incidentally put down by Robert E Lee! Remember, the Emancipation Proclamation did not free a single slave in the North, ergo slave States Maryland and Delaware! As for those in the South, how could it free a slave? It's as good as me saying the money in your pockets are mine! You'll rightly say, come get it and you gon leave empty handed and lumped up! My good man, Abe Lincoln was a freakin racist pig and to further prove my point, y'all had to wait 100 years for the votibg rights act, in order for you to be fully enfranchised. Oh by the way, the 13th amendent did not abolish slavery outright. Break the law and see what happens. Now think 'black codes', peonage and the prison system post 13th amendment. Yup y'all have been lied to and I could go on and on.
@stevehartman1730
@stevehartman1730 2 месяца назад
Gotfan, you are so wrong
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 2 месяца назад
I want your sources proving that.
@jenninedelane7721
@jenninedelane7721 5 месяцев назад
My 3x GGF was a Confederate Brigadier General and he was a free man of color not “freed”. His son was also a Private and free man of color. Jefferson Davis’ grandniece also bought my 3x GGF beach house in Biloxi in 1879. Robert E Lee’s father Henry Light Horse Harry Lee was a Seminole Indian. Don’t get mad at us, blame the Daughters of the Confederacy for rewriting the records. 🤷🏽‍♀️ US Congressional Military records say Robert E Lee entered West Point at the age of 18, 5’10 , 180lbs, brown skin, black curly hair, and gray eyes. This is a primary historical resource that can’t be disputed and proves google images are lying and the narratives have been rewritten. Men of color were the majority of land patent owners of the south and were fighting to protect our territory !! If the white men owned land by inheritance for years and years, they wouldn’t have had to burn our records and destroy our already built towns. They would have had their own stuff. Even the red and blue X confederate flag is modeled from our Black Indian flag. Everything got switched around to hate and terror during and after Reconstruction. 💯
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 5 месяцев назад
Sources for your claims there, please.
@TheGuitarReb
@TheGuitarReb 4 месяца назад
The Victor always writes the history and teaches it to the school children.
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 4 месяца назад
@@TheGuitarReb Well, the Lost Cause Myth disproves that
@TheGuitarReb
@TheGuitarReb 4 месяца назад
Nah! You have that mixed up with Rastis Elmo Lee. He had black skin, kinky hair, was six ft. two and wore size 14 shoes.
@jenninedelane7721
@jenninedelane7721 4 месяца назад
@@TheGuitarReb I don’t have anything mixed up. I have a copy of the U.S. Congressional Military record🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️Go read it before talking. They have a section on the Lee family. Y’all are so lost it’s pathetic, but the truth is gonna come out, so get ready….
@lemmdus2119
@lemmdus2119 5 месяцев назад
Some of these Black Confederates were actually part white. Also in Gettysburg a Confederate black was killed in battle after he picked up his master’s rifle and shot at Union troops. There were also black slaves looking for their masters among the Union casualties as well.
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 5 месяцев назад
I would like your source please thanks.
@TruthFiction
@TruthFiction 5 месяцев назад
A slave picking up his masters rifle would be a slave, not a soldier.
@TheGuitarReb
@TheGuitarReb 4 месяца назад
Some of these white Confederates were actually part Indian. So what?
@TheGuitarReb
@TheGuitarReb 2 месяца назад
Gen Stan Waite and his Cherokee Braves were some of the best Confederates we had. So what?
@YvesDarbouze
@YvesDarbouze 4 месяца назад
This video is nonsense. It was illegal to be Black and a soldier
@jeorgedavid3239
@jeorgedavid3239 2 месяца назад
Stay off drugs
@kurtsherrick2066
@kurtsherrick2066 16 дней назад
​@@jeorgedavid3239 Drugs makes them believe what they have been told is true. Much of the History taught about the Civil War and what led up to it is a lie and a Myth.
@Yaman328
@Yaman328 5 месяцев назад
Keep dreaming 😂😂😂😂 whatever, revisionists!!
@HuesopandillaGlorius
@HuesopandillaGlorius 3 месяца назад
ok, you don't know anything
@Yaman328
@Yaman328 3 месяца назад
@@HuesopandillaGlorius Please, enlighten me!!!
@TheGuitarReb
@TheGuitarReb 2 месяца назад
@@Yaman328 You can't enlighten burnt out light bulbs.
@Yaman328
@Yaman328 2 месяца назад
@@TheGuitarReb Awwww very cute attempt at using a Metaphor. If only you graduated middle school 😔😔🙏🏽🙏🏽
@TheGuitarReb
@TheGuitarReb 2 месяца назад
@@Yaman328 If I had graduated middle school, I'd be dangerous.
@hesavedawretchlikeme6902
@hesavedawretchlikeme6902 2 месяца назад
This talk of slavery, is misunderstood in our generations today. Blacks were Part Of The south. The war was caused by the hegemony of who will control the government. Power, whom the money handlers of Europe controlled both and other countries to proxy war in America. The south had the right to sever from the Union, but Lincoln enforced a war that was truly illegal. Were their people that thought blacks are less than human, of course. Things are never as black and white. Power, money, control was the real cause of wars...always.
@GoTfan-eb8tk
@GoTfan-eb8tk 2 месяца назад
No mate. It was slavery.
@peterraab3411
@peterraab3411 2 месяца назад
Agreed
@bronxbomerpito7286
@bronxbomerpito7286 2 месяца назад
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
@evalbtt
@evalbtt Месяц назад
What white southerners were doing to black people was truly evil, and black people had the right to sever from the evil confederacy.
@LusterThomas-ck9yx
@LusterThomas-ck9yx Месяц назад
Because slaves made the money.
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