The Weirdest Cheated Speedrun World Record

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What happens when one of the most competitive and popular speedrunning games gets a cheated run accepted onto the leaderboards?
I just want to note that this is not a drama video! This cheated world record occurred over a year and a half ago, everything here is presented purely for your entertainment, not to "expose" anyone, so please be respectful to any individuals mentioned in the video!
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Music used (in order):
Celeste OST (@LenaRaine) - Reach for the Summit
Celeste OST (@LenaRaine) - Resurrections
Dustforce OST (@Lifeformed) - The Magnetic Tree
Celeste OST (@Lifeformed) - Reflection
Dustforce OST (@Lifeformed) - It's Not Suppose To Be Snowing
Super Mario 64 OST - File Select
Dustforce OST (@Lifeformed) - Elvish Piper Academy
Ducktales (NES) - The Moon Theme
Videos referenced:
@Speedrunning Multiple PACE2019 VoDs
( • Msushi100 vs NBL TGH_s... )
( • Fladervy vs Chaikitty ... )
@TGH "Celeste Any% Speedrun in 27:50"
( • Celeste Any% Speedrun ... )
Multiple Phoenix4K runs
(removed or unavailable)
@SourceRuns "Half-Life 2: Episode Two - Done Quick - 30:36 WR"
( • Half-Life 2: Episode T... )
Thanks to attmayMB, daver12345, AyanokoRin, Lev067, EricJ_Math, jrstan, Lemmons, and frozenflygone for helping with the video creation process.
This video is not an actual speedrun world record, nor a speedrun tutorial. This video is a showcase/storytelling of a cheated world record speedrun, explaining the competition, context, and cheating methodology that went into creating the cheated speedrun, so that the viewer can best understand the situation. This video is very similar to my "How Speedrunners Skip..." videos, but with a storytelling twist.
I used a new microphone this video! My old blue yeti broke so I purchased an AKG P220. I'm still getting used to it, and this mic picks up a bit more background noise than I'm used to. Sorry if you hear any background noise!

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@bobwilson00 3 года назад

mans played ram ranch with a giant bird blocking the screen and no game audio, and tried to pass it off as a wr. That seems more like a joke than a legitimate cheating attempt

@Graknorke 3 года назад

My guess is an attempt to get the rules changed by making something that obviously breaks what should be rules but aren't. He even called attention to the berries thing in the title and by going out of his way to collect a berry that's otherwise not easy to just run into accidentally.

@cf0e3 3 года назад

The bird part is understandable. If I remember correctly Archie the bird belongs to someone who invented a new technique that consist of entering a green bubble in crouched position to keep the crouched hitbox while in the bubble. This allows you to go through tighter spaces. They named the technique after the bird for some reason.

@Lmjacks 3 года назад

@@cf0e3 archie is the bird of one of phoenix’s good friends. and phoenix was actually the person who discovered the strat you mention, also choosing to name it after the bird

@mm-bw2bf 3 года назад

The best part is that it somewhat worked

@zanthor5422 3 года назад

@@Graknorke Exactly. It's really obvious that this run existed to push new rules, especially considering the fact that Phoenix doesn't really participate actively in the community and very clearly doesn't care about his leaderboard placement on SRC.

@spaghettioverlord3247 3 года назад

he called it “two berries” and the berries are what gave him away. Obviously this was intentional.

@youreagirl.2028 3 года назад

Yep

@glumbortango7182 3 года назад

Part of me wishes "two berries" became a category for people to just make the weirdest speedruns possible

@juandedomenico4306 3 года назад

@@glumbortango7182 twoberries %

@idkwew3023 2 года назад

@@glumbortango7182 I'm going to start speedrunning random other games and call them twoberries%

@originalname5598 2 года назад

@@idkwew3023 play breath of the wild and do getlaid% that's the weirdest category

@Duskforge 3 года назад

I bet phoenix was like "imma fake a speedrun and add these sketch signs so they know its fake" Speedrun Lbs: Its verified Phoenix: wait wh-

$@fracazer$

@fracazer 3 года назад

Lmao

@NorielBenMiel 3 года назад

*Task Successfully Failed*

@chrismanuel9768 2 года назад

He purposely sent the run in through backdoors, using one of his mod friends to get it verified instantly without anyone actually verifying it. He knew what he was doing. It's not the mods' fault, except for the one that was his friend he used to push his run through. I hope that mod got removed.

@pikenote 2 года назад

@@chrismanuel9768 We dont know his true intentions as stated that he sent a unedited version of the run through DMs to a mod. Did he expect them to verify it? Perhaps not. The run would've been super obvious for it to be spliced and was caught within 30 minutes. I dont think they cared. They would've put much more effort to hide the fact it was spliced rather than leaving clear signs there.

@C1azed 2 года назад

@@chrismanuel9768 if you have ever listened to ram ranch then you know this was a troll on people who take speedruning to seriously, the mod was probaly in on this and knew the run would not stay up but put it up for headlines

@paradoxicaloutcome1007 2 года назад

- Timer turned off - In-game audio muted, 28 minutes of Ram Ranch instead - VERY eye-drawing PNG of a bird blocking the save icon - Went out of his way to not collect the speedrun-required berry and instead collect a different berry, named the file 2_berries to draw attention to the berries themselves - Had never submitted a run before, hasn't submitted a run since, despite his legitimate runs being quite good The idea that people even believe this guy was actually seriously trying to get away with this is laughable. He probably pulled this shit just to point out the rules that he thought were too lenient, which they were, absolutely. Seriously, blocking the save icon, turning off the in-game audio and turning off the timer weren't things that were ruled out?! A person that wasn't pointing a neon sign at themselves could've easily annihilated the leaderboard without issue under these rules. The fact that this meme run wasn't technically breaking the rules should've been an embarrassment for the mods.

@positivereinforcement5894 2 года назад

This argument has a lot of merit and I'm not gonna say you're wrong but I would like to correct one thing, he did submit previous runs he just deleted them regularly to the point where one wasn't on the leaderboard by the time he submitted the wr one

@loganxavier 2 года назад

You articulated this perfectly in text, thank you

@FoxHoundUnit89 2 года назад

@@positivereinforcement5894 that just makes it sound even more like he was just trolling. Is there some rule that prohibits moderators/judges from just banning people who are clearly just being an idiot on purpose?

@optidalfprime3904 2 года назад

@@FoxHoundUnit89 Of course there is. If there wasn't then mods would ban each other left and right

@tristankendrick2582 2 года назад

Just a tiny touch of editing would've made this run look 100% legitimate, you'd just have to mess with the berry counter at the end and add the save icon when necessary

@DanatronOne 3 года назад

"Remember how there was a giant green bird?" How could I forget

@ShiningDarknes 3 года назад

Completely slipped my mind

@wildfire9 3 года назад

Bruh when i read this, he said it

@matthewjagos9328 2 года назад

@@wildfire9 same

@Succui Год назад

It was literally still on screen lmao. I looked down at it and went “mhm.. bird..”. I love returning to this video lol

@ThePenguinMan Год назад

*_DUOLINGO INTENSIFIES_*

@qanzii5949 3 года назад

This is so funny to me, I just can't imagine being a mod, watching this run, hearing fucking ram ranch throughout and having to seriously verify it

@sadbanana5896 3 года назад

M to mute

@sentricsmemebank2684 3 года назад

"Boss, we can't completely verify the run.." "Why not?" "18 naked cowboys at ram ranch.."

@Trimint123 3 года назад

Well, they could just mute the video and focused on the footage than the music.

@hypnotoad28 3 года назад

The Ram Ranch thing alone makes this video worth watching, lmfao. Dude's content is pretty damn good though, definitely on an upward trajectory

@No-uc6fg 3 года назад

25 US MARINES

@camwoodstock 3 года назад

"Just for the record, 2 berries is not a category speedrunners run." Give it a few weeks

@jaxblonk5127 Год назад

They had 2 huge berries if nothing else.

@ziwuri 5 месяцев назад

Well, the current any% WR collects not 2, but 3 berries :D

@No-yn3jo 4 месяца назад

:D@@ziwuri

@hollowdude6922 4 месяца назад

its called any% because they have to beat the game with any amount of game percentage

@ramanand5187 2 года назад

"I get dirty, so the world becomes clean" If the guy indeed had the intention to expose how bad the speedrun checks are, then props to him

@JetstreamSam343 2 года назад

They called him a madman

@fie4426 Год назад

Someone did something like that with golden eye 64

@foamed7025 Год назад

lelouch... is that u?

@RianQuenlin Год назад

"I shoot puppies to show that shooting puppies is wrong!" - Psychopath who killed a bunch of puppies.

@MarioLuigi0404 Год назад

@@RianQuenlin acting as if these are at all comparable situations is kinda insane dude A fake speed run is a shitty thing to do but at the end of the day it doesn’t bring direct physical harm to anyone, especially when it’s caught and the leaderboards are cleaned.

@SimpleFlips 3 года назад

EIGHTEEN NAKED COWBOYS WORLD RECORD LETS GOOOO

@Snookbone 3 года назад

Hey Shoutouts

@richarde98 3 года назад

Hottest and fastest speedrun in the west!

@TrainerPlatinumSinnoh 3 года назад

ya love to see it

@JamesBCrazy 3 года назад

Shoutouts

@undergamer6143 3 года назад

holy shit it's simpleflips

@chronovac 3 года назад

My man potentially sacrificed his integrity as a speedrunner to shitpost. What a fucking legend

@Marcel-su5ud 3 года назад

I mean he put up a SUPER fake run with clues in its Titel just to force some new rules into the world.....he even got a lwgit speedrun later on! This guy is a legend no question asked

@hariman7727 2 года назад

Legend... Fool... Not sure which.

@eaghan 2 года назад

@@Marcel-su5ud yeah no way he actually cares about having a legit run, just listen to the music pick lol

@SweetMargonade 2 года назад

@@hariman7727 why not both? The true question is, is he a foolish legend or a legendary fool?

@panampace 2 года назад

@@SweetMargonade like Leroy Jenkins

@larrymcmund6600 3 года назад

I can't believe such a suspicions speedrun with a pretty clear splice was verified. Maybe it was more of a commentary on how painfully lax the rules were

@conwaysquest6961 2 года назад

Yeah.

@DreadKyller 2 года назад

I believe he was friends with one of the mods, who likely had a large hand in getting it verified.

@sparkypikachu7776 Год назад

@@DreadKyller that's...also really bad 💀

@ShaggyRogers1 7 месяцев назад

@@sparkypikachu7776 It isn't even needed most of the time. The initial verification for the website is easy enough to get through, moderators don't know the ins and outs of EVERY game and it isn't like they are even paid to scrutinize every detail. The big thing is that the "verification" means that video proof is required, which the community can then self police. The community can usually do a decent job of spotting fakes on their own, and it isn't like cheating speedruns hasn't been done since Billy Mitchel in the 80's...

@steelajax7925 5 месяцев назад

@@ShaggyRogers1Hi, this is Billy Mitchell's legal counsel. Please delete or edit this slanderous comment immediately or you will be sued for defamation

@agisuru 2 года назад

If it weren't faked, blasting Ram Ranch over your world record speedrun would be a hell of a power move

@therockinggoomba 3 года назад

Imagine killing somebody and then when the police come by, you cover the bloody corpse with a PNG of a bird

@pancracio1710 3 года назад

Flawless plan. I wouldnt even think to check behind the bird png for bodies.

@JukoYT 3 года назад

I havent watched the entire video and i am wondering wtf is this comment lol

@connorconnor2421 3 года назад

rip archie

@Tinlion09 3 года назад

Screaming _"RAM RANCH REALLY ROCKS"_ as the cops beat you to the ground and cuff you

@orvilleredenpiller338 3 года назад

🎶🎵You may saaaaaay I’m a dreameeer, but I’m not the only oooooone... 🎵🎶

@WannabeMarysue 3 года назад

ram ranch is the ONLY song for Celeste world records

@eenriquee 3 года назад

I see this comment and I don't know what to expect from this video

@Avriel_Mimiga 3 года назад

18 Strawberries in the showers at Ram Ranch

@shadowknight7584 3 года назад

Haha

@benlange279 3 года назад

I need to see this speedrun. Watching 27 mins and 43 seconds of Celeste gameplay overlayed with Ram Ranch. It's a must watch

@cyn7261 3 года назад

Is your Twitter ironic

@annigram 3 года назад

As a wise man once said: LONG LIVE ARCHIE

@leavemealoneplease583 3 года назад

*Anarchy

@tropical64_xd88 3 года назад

Whats his name?

@puckqure1192 3 года назад

A wise man once said dying is gay

@owens_demos 3 года назад

@@leavemealoneplease583 no it’s Archie

@eurasian8492 2 года назад

Archie the archasaour

@JustSomeDinosaurPerson 2 года назад

If anything, phoenix is a legend for a making clowns out of the celeste leaderboard. These rules should have already been in place and enforced lmao

@prycenewberg3976 3 года назад

I don't think he cares about "his career as a Celeste speedrunner."

@Poop-nu1so 2 года назад

This^

@sophialong7669 Год назад

No one should

@OmarTarekPianist 3 года назад

This was just like a slap in the face to the mod team of Celeste. The music, the bird, the title. At the end it is more embarrassing for the mods than for the runner themselves...I mean, they verified it at first hahaha

@userofusername4981 2 года назад

Then they ban him for half a year

@Barondelculo 2 года назад

it was a massive shitpost lol, the name he gave the speedrun gave him away.

@aaronking2020 2 года назад

@@userofusername4981 mods had no balls phoenix is a chad

@frankvonfrauner 2 года назад

@@userofusername4981 That's how you can tell the difference between someone who is modding because they care about a community, and someone who wants the power. Someone who actually cares would be thankful for the audit.

@user-kx8pu6ys5i Год назад

@@userofusername4981 then he speedruns it and gets a better time, which is completely legitimate and doesn't submit it after the half a year passes cuz he doesn't care.

@darkeye457 Год назад

He ended up creating new rules that needed to be there from the start He's not a cheater, he's a hero

@the_yurest 3 года назад

Everyone: Has an avatar to make it easier for people to recognise them Msushi: *Source texture not found*

@I_the_Taco 2 года назад

tapl be like

@WhoEls 3 года назад

To me this looks like an intentional faked run to expose stupid rules.

@pseudonym50 3 года назад

I agree. The run is just so intentionally trollish that im surprised they even verified it in the first place. He obviously didn't care about leaderboard placement and probably just wanted to poke fun at the celeste mods for not taking cheating seriously.

@Lmjacks 3 года назад

@@polocatfan phoenix was not participating in the gsa league, there was no prize pool for him

@unnoticed4571 3 года назад

@@Lmjacks Lends more credence to the theory that the run was made to poke fun, and wasn't mean't to be taken too seriously.

@KaneYork 3 года назад

@@pseudonym50 You need to be a little bit more blatant than this if that's your goal.

@WhoEls 3 года назад

@@KaneYork No the video still had to pass the rules to be acknowledged.

@AzuMazu_ 3 года назад

Petition to make ram ranch a requirement for future world records?

@Cyceryx 3 года назад

signed

@ECODKyleskymast 3 года назад

ram%

@cactuz116 3 года назад

Signed

@Soverthe 2 года назад

signed

@yovalo3382 2 года назад

Not signed imagine someone accelerate slightly the video the music would be very usefull to check that

@SemiHypercube 2 года назад

9:46 "Believe it or not, this bird was complicit in Phoenix's cheating scheme" I have no idea why this sentence is so funny to me also you know there's going to be a deep explanation of game mechanics when they pull out the SM64 file select theme

@Scrubermensch 2 года назад

Because it feels like the bird was: you spling bro? No problem, I gotchu, get that save icon as I cover the screen

@Cloud-zq3cc Год назад

As an ace attorney fan, this sentence was hilarious to me . Just saying, the elevator

@TheFerdi265 Год назад

I love how pannenkoek2012's videos had so much influence on the general style of strat and glitch explanations om youtube

@SurmenianSoldier Год назад

@@Cloud-zq3cc true

@vladislav_sidorenko 11 месяцев назад

@@Cloud-zq3cc That time, the bird was complicit against the crime, though you could count it "forgetting" whether we have forgotten anything.

@TheSaoul 2 года назад

This guy seems to care more about the passion and artistry in Speedrunning more than a crown. He's got the record, unsubmitted but he has it. He doesn't want to turn it in apparently. It's weird seeing someone so genuinely in love with a game but eschew any accolades for it.

@seabass3818 Год назад

It's been a whole year since I last read this comment, and I haven't heard the word eschew since.

@Femboy_Jophiel 10 месяцев назад

@@seabass3818 read a book

@dtsnelson 10 месяцев назад

@@Femboy_Jophielimagine telling someone to read a book because they haven't seen a word in a year when that word hasn't had more than a 1 millionth of a percentage of use in literature available online since 1843.

@adderous 9 месяцев назад

Where else are they gonna see it, though. Old books are probably the best bet

@Biosquid239 5 месяцев назад

@@dtsnelson get his ass

@ggtylerr 3 года назад

>"The audio was completely muted..." >Okay, that's a bit odd... >"...and in its place was a variety of of Grant McDonald's 'Ram Ranch' music." >PFFFFFFFFFFFTTTT Okay, please tell me there's an archive to this run. I really want to watch a celeste speedrun while having to listen to Ram Ranch for 28 minutes.

@MisterBones2910 3 года назад

I want to see it too, but it looks like no one mirrored it before it got deleted; at least not that I can find.

@MisterBones2910 3 года назад

@ElyC West Collected before deletion I'd imagine. Small community, this guy probably began work on it immediately after the situation had come to a resolution.

@Vassilinia 2 года назад

Aaaaaa I need to see this run.

@DamageMaximo 2 года назад

pffffffffffffffft edit: pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

@OmoiSenpai 3 года назад

Feels like he was just trolling to have rules be applied. Maybe he tried talking about it, but nobody took action on it. Just my guess.

@Ghosted_31 3 года назад

That's what I think too

@Rob-sf4xy 3 года назад

He did called it a 2 berries speedrun and that is how he cheated, so what you are saying is not far fetched.

@xbaneet3969 3 года назад

@@Rob-sf4xy oh shit hes 100 parallel universes ahead of us

@HFTVChannel 3 года назад

Sounds overly convenient, not impossible, but yeah

@Wildstag 3 года назад

Maybe it was just an out of season April Fool's joke.

@nicosmind3 2 года назад

He entered a highly suspicious speed run in every way possible. Zero sound making splices harder to detect, a parrot blocking part of the scree that would give it away etc etc. If anything it's the mods that should be punished for letting it through

@feedmewifi_477 3 года назад

would not have guessed msushi is pronounced “myself”

@lewiscarroll4290 3 года назад

The h is silent. Hope that clears it up.

@festry_ 3 года назад

@@lewiscarroll4290 msussy

@prototype_11 2 года назад

@@festry_ but, there's no h in myself How the f do i need to say it then

@I_the_Taco 2 года назад

my sushi

@xexpaguette 2 года назад

mmm sushi

@norsetrack945 3 года назад

0:35 I'm sorry, but the name clearly says "Msushi" not "Myself" or whatever.

@bread6385 3 года назад

im gonna correct you for no reason its mice elf

@bastbo3225 3 года назад

this is one of those comments where you can’t tell if they’re joking or not

@nickerdoodle2300 3 года назад

IS this a joke??? I legitimately cannot tell

@doolosss 3 года назад

@@nickerdoodle2300 yes lol

@spacenoodles5570 3 года назад

I think this is pretty clearly a joke

@redjugg665 3 года назад

seems like he didn't talk about himself in the 3rd person this time

@saltycat8306 3 года назад

What if this isn't him then? Oh god oh fuck. Mshushi has been replaced by an impostor.

@chicken4222 3 года назад

Oh god your right. Oh no.

@zekiz774 3 года назад

I didn't realized that he talked about himself in 3rd person.

@Sonathan1893 3 года назад

Maybe because someone said it made a bad first impression, but personally I cannot back that up.

@davidfutterer551 3 года назад

@@Sonathan1893 I really dont like him talking in 3rd person of him self. Sooo... I´m glad he didnt

@catrap5287 3 года назад

he's still active, he's just training for cowboy%

@S_-- 2 года назад

I feel like this guy DID get reborn from his ashes, reborn into a quiet life where he is only known as the guy that played ram ranch whilst speedrunning a game.

@Ivytheherbert 3 года назад

I like how the one berry that proved the splicing was one that would never be collected during a speedrun, and it was the only berry that had been collected during Summit. Almost like he planned the spliced run to avoid every berry except that one hidden berry just as a "fuck you" to the mods.

@Helperbot-2000 2 года назад

mans a gigatroll lmao

@JetstreamSam343 2 года назад

My man's a gigachad of a troll

@bolson42 Год назад

@@JetstreamSam343 same joke but worse

@daylawashere Год назад

this is my man, and he is a gigantic chad of a troller

@bolson42 Год назад

@@daylawashere This man is mine, and he can be considered a comically large, conventionally masculine person who likes to engage in tomfoolery

@Jamer508 3 года назад

Considering the Ram ranch song and the intentional obstructions of areas of the screen that previously should have been verified I feel like Pheonix4k was intentionally harrassing the speed running community in order to enforce what he thought was effective rules. The mistake with the berries and the loading icon and the sound all add up to someone who was disgruntled about previous speed runs not having enough scrutiny.

@seiggrainhart4719 3 года назад

It would certainly explain why he hasn't posted the legit run to the community as well. Almost as if he's saying to himself. "Alright, jobs done, time to move on."

@priestoffern1608 3 года назад

Or the fact that the speedrun is called "2 berries", even though there weren't 2 berries

@harrisonbaguley5691 3 года назад

@@priestoffern1608 no, there were two berries. he collected two berries in the actual run; one in chap 3 and the 'extra' one in summit. the one he collects earlier in summit in the video isn't included in the total because he spliced it

@EXRDaBeasta 3 года назад

He is too good. After the ram ranch and then setting the legit WR by a second shortly after, I think his job here is done.

@codegeek98 3 года назад

Genius

@flower-yl6iw 2 года назад

phoenix is actually a comedic legend and there was absolutely no excuse for the mods to miss the fact it was fake ToT

@anotherwordly 2 года назад

to be honest, this whole situation gives me a feeling the cheated run was on purpose, whether to test the site’s moderation, to prove a point about the lackluster rules, or some other reason.

@Cherryblossoms110 4 месяца назад

yeah there's no way in hell it wasn't a joke, I just looked up ram ranch

@Nennecatgirl 3 года назад

I am 100% convinced that this was ironic. He did this as a joke, and it was hilarious.

@aspenshadow7920 3 года назад

I think he legitimately did it to get new rules added. He doesn't care about having the world record obviously or else he would submit his legitimate run. He's secretly chaotic good.

@GFC_FM 3 года назад

The mods of Celeste have already confirmed this was almost definitely not the reason he did so. He lied about plenty of other petty things unrelated to this, along with other reasons one of the mods mentioned in a different comment here. Plus, he could always just tell the mods to make the rules stricter, especially considering he was in constant contact with at least one of them. Also, the video with the bird and meme music wasn't the video he originally showed the mod he submitted it to. He originally sent the mod he's friends with the original, unedited video (which had in game music and no obstructions). The mod watched it, told him it was okay, but then when he actually entered his submission on the leaderboards, he linked to the meme version. So basically, he showed one mod he was friends with (or was at least in contact with) the true, unedited run. Once that mod watched it, he uploaded the other version, to avoid any other mods from catching on. That way, it would be harder for any other mods to notice, and if anyone asked, one mod saw the unedited version and verified it. Basically just took advantage of that one mod not doing a good job and then made it even harder for the rest of the mods to do theirs, but it didn't work out for him. The guy 100% wanted to get away with it.

@theSato 3 года назад

@@GFC_FM nahhh..

@prcr364 3 года назад

@@theSato Bro seriously

@FuSiionCraft 3 года назад

@@GFC_FM Yes, because the mods are garbage in checking the run and so did his shitpost run to "humiliate" the mods Also, lying and trying to figure out if what the runner say is true or not is also the base of checking EVERYTHING indicate that it's intentional, and EVERYTHING indicate that the mods are trying to pass it off as a "real run" to not be humiliated for doing garbage work Don't need 546415613 IQ to comprehend something this simple

@OkuriLucy 3 года назад

It sounds like a cheated speedrun shitpost

@bladeoftheruinedking2543 3 года назад

Post

@ilovesmosh2012 3 года назад

@nick gurr based name, watch out for susan.

@dfoshanz9833 3 года назад

What name game?

@J3ff_K1ng Год назад

Can we appreciate how all this was destroy by 1 frame, he was clearly going to show how bad the rules were, like I'm sure that at editing if he really wanted to go with it he would eliminate that random frame and change it with a frame of a first completion run but he wanted to give an obvious cheat mark to make the mods change the rule Absolute legend

@Boro87 2 года назад

Is it actually cheating though? Theres a freaking parrot on screen and no sound 😅. This speedrunnzr was making a point more than anything else.

@KabalFromMK9 2 года назад

It's a spliced run

@loganxavier Год назад

@@KabalFromMK9 Can you figure out the reason why it was spliced 🤔

@IschmarVI 11 месяцев назад

@@loganxavier not necessary as splicing invalidates the run and as clearly, efforts have been made to cover up the slicing, the run is considered a cheated run. There is nothing to figure out. However, it is probably a good thing that this happened because it caused some overdue rule changes. Also, this is kinda hilarious, not gonna lie 😆

@jakemartinez6894 2 месяца назад

@@IschmarVI It doesn’t seem as though there have been attempts to hide the splicing… in fact, it seems as though there’s a bright, oddly shaped green arrow pointing right toward it.

@arthand7672 3 года назад

Definitely feels like he was trolling. Was probably shocked when the run was first verified

@TomLube 2 года назад

He had a friend approve the run to get it pushed directly to leaderboards, so this seems unlikely

@boomerdave1172 2 года назад

@@TomLube proof?

@loganxavier 2 года назад

I feel like it was verified at first to prove a point to the rules.

@Henry_III 2 года назад

@@TomLube proof? Link?

@testerwulf3357 2 года назад

@@TomLube Even if that's the case it also goes to show why when verifying a run multiple people should do so before it gets accepted so a cheated run can't slip through like that. The run's entire job was probably to show how easy it was to trick the mods into accepting a troll run!

@peanutallergy5318 3 года назад

Once he said "no timer" and "no audio" I knew it was splicing

@GuyNamedSean 3 года назад

Could there ever be a more flagrant red flag? I mean, you're basically screaming to the heavens that you're splicing at that point.

@amfram 3 года назад

Ikr how the heck did they ever allow no audio and no timer. Plus not using the standardized timer program is really suspicious

@kamataros5172 3 года назад

@@amfram Not using the standard timer is fine, there are people filming their screen if they play a game on a console because they don't have a capture card or so, but any timer should be required. And game audio should definitely be a given requirement

@starplane1239 3 года назад

@@amfram It amazed me too that it went through, especially for a WR. You would think they would be extra suspicious about WR runs.

@electroshock1021 3 года назад

@@starplane1239 and especially the fact that, besides no time/audio, THERE WAS A BIRD COVERING PART OF THE SCREEN. like seriously people, how do you not notice this.

@DarkOmegaMK2 8 месяцев назад

This is a shameful display, not on Phoenix's part, but on the speedrun community as a whole. He literally played all of them for morons and succeeded.

@JetstreamSam343 2 года назад

The dude is a legend He made a meme and got new rules implemented I salute this madlad o7

@halestar2967 3 года назад

Really surprised the investigation didn’t point out the ram ranch usage as evidence. A common way to detect splices (originally coined in SM64 iirc) is to check the audio for cuts, something that’s hard to do without specialized software. Muting the game audio and placing ram ranch over it would make the audio smooth and thus make splices harder to track.

@gmalamat1393 2 года назад

Well that's why it's theorized the Speedrun was just a massive shitpost with no actual intent to get to the leaderboard, because hiding the audio had been allowed up to that point

@testerwulf3357 2 года назад

@@gmalamat1393 Yea the goal was probably to change the rules because how they were made faking a run SUPER easy.

@JaggerG Год назад

Lack of audio is not evidence. It’s highly suspicious, but doesn’t prove anything.

@livin4thelamb499 3 месяца назад

That's what I said!

@jakemartinez6894 2 месяца назад

⁠@@JaggerG It is evidence, that’s exactly what circumstantial evidence is. Even if you have suspicious red stains and dna on clothes you get caught trying to burn it technically doesn’t prove anything. An undisputedly foul-played person in the trunk of your car… still circumstantial. The popular tv or RU-vid commenter line is “but all the evidence is circumstantial”… even though I’d wager that maybe even over half of convictions for things like murder are done with any non-circumstantial evidence. For something to be non-circumstantial, it has to have no other possible explanation, however unlikely, assuming that the evidence is legitimate; such as a video of someone clearly committing the crime. Pretty much anything you can think of is just some level of suggestion… and that’s alright.

@chuck_duck 3 года назад

"You may know Ram Ranch from its iconic line '18 naked cowboys.'" - Msushi 2021

@bigstopowens 3 года назад

@@dumm9714 thats probably all people hear before they turn it off though

@Misha-dr9rh 2 года назад

@@bigstopowens You turn it off? Ram ranch is a banger.

@asdfjkl227 3 года назад

"let me introduce you to a speedrunner that cheated by pointing out I am a top speedrunner that was invited to win money in a competition."

@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash Год назад

"speedrunner", "career" HA - you got me dead laughing with that one

@fenmo9533 3 года назад

Honestly, it seems like he submitted this run for the sole purpose of getting the moderators to apply stricter rules when verifying speedruns. Doesn't seem like a serious cheating attempt at all. Especially considering the fact that he literally pointed out the berries which caused the mods to look closer at the game footage, I think it's obvious he was leaving in some obvious ways people could possibly cheat a run to make the mods instate an overarching rule to prevent that sort of thing.

@acheron-x3360 3 года назад

Might even be some alt of some other pro speedrunner, seeing as apparently he only interacted with other speedrunners in the community.

@JustKatoh 3 года назад

Literally This

@crewpup9481 3 года назад

It explains why he wasn’t proud of it

@fishmcmuffins3965 3 года назад

as a speedrun mod for celeste who was a part of this situation first hand, i wouldn't really say that. he kind of just got caught up in a series of escalating lies - he claimed multiple IL records in some of the longest (most difficult) chapters in the game with no video proof, got multiple PBs he refused to share splits for, and random petty lies like that. he was still very good at the game and was a WR capable player, so a lot of top players started kind of hyping up his grind and i think he felt like he had to deliver. also worth mentioning that calling the run verified is a stretch, but it's kind of a mess - basically he sent the video to one mod (who was a good buddy of his) and they immediately verified the runs on the board, and the discrepancy in summit was found in under 30 minutes when another mod had a chance to watch the video. i think he didn't really expect the run to make it on the boards ngl, and when it did end up on the boards shit went down

@fishmcmuffins3965 3 года назад

@@acheron-x3360 nah not an alt lol, he streamed with mic and cam several times, has been to a GDQ (didn't do a run, just met friends), and has been in tons of other communities

@nyroachboy 3 года назад

Kind've feels intentional, named the run 2 berries, the 2 berries weren't shown, ram ranch in the background lol

@larsvadgaard 3 года назад

"kind have"

@Buglin_Burger7878 3 года назад

@@larsvadgaard Your point? This is how some people legitimately speak. Words have more then 1 set use.

@ManBung 3 года назад

@@Buglin_Burger7878 "more then"

@Bashfluff 3 года назад

@@Buglin_Burger7878 There's a clear distinction between alternate word usage and a mistake.

@nyroachboy 3 года назад

@@larsvadgaard I live in texas, that's just a common way to say kind of.

@dungewar 9 месяцев назад

This video was the first time I've heard of Celeste. Now I've completed a great game and got to watch much more content from this game. Thank you for making this.

@lysander3262 9 месяцев назад

It's always surreal to hear Xanadu Games namedropped as a locale for major events. As a UMBC student who was there to see its founding, Im consistently pleased to still hear about the store's role as a hotspot for competitive gaming more than a decade later. None of us regular goers woukd have predicted it at the time. Cheers and keep on running.

@Stratocaster42 3 года назад

This dude had to be trolling right? This seemed so deliberate

@connorschultz380 3 года назад

Someone suggested he was trying to get the modes to start enforcing the rules

@prcervi 3 года назад

going by the pinned comment, 100% a shitpost and partly to have mods clear out their speedrun loopholes with a partial "could not be assed to waste anymore time pulling a legit run for the shitpost"

@ShiningDarknes 3 года назад

@@connorschultz380 I mean with the bird and the text and the no game audio replaced with...questionable music choice...yeah I'd say he was trying to make a point.

@mranxiety9995 3 года назад

Well it's called ''2 berries" and the 2 berries are what gave it away soooooooo

@punchy9542 3 года назад

Don’t cheat by accident

@thecatalyst6212 3 года назад

"the worst thing a speed runner can do" Me: speed walking

@fossilfighters101 3 года назад

@thecatalyst6212 3 года назад

@@fossilfighters101 -

@hc6929 3 года назад

@ZukaUnare 3 года назад

@@fossilfighters101 dude really said:➕

@RileyB_226 3 года назад

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@omnipotent9148 3 года назад

"Splicing is Possibly the worst thing a Speedrunner could do" idk man, Murder might still be worse

@syrup4835 3 года назад

This is like the one time I agree with cheating. Chaotic good action of doing the wrong thing for the right reason, to fix the rules.

@aquener1648 3 года назад

Damn who is this Speedrunner called "Myself" prob worst than Msushi

@TylerMarkRichardson 3 года назад

Yea

@bladeoftheruinedking2543 3 года назад

There's too much of this joke that it's not funny anymore

@aquener1648 3 года назад

@@bladeoftheruinedking2543 ok

@Soha_an. 3 года назад

@@bladeoftheruinedking2543 ok

@KipTM 3 года назад

@@bladeoftheruinedking2543 ok

@JoLiKMC 8 месяцев назад

It's alarming that catching this particular incident took "under 24 hours" considering all of the very obvious telltale signs of an illegitimate speedrun…

@TimmyDaTurtle 3 года назад

you know what, running without a timer, could actually be a good time save. if there is no timer, you won't get distracted as much, and therefore can focus on the run more. while not significant, it could really be helpful in the end game.

@AhplBusinessman 2 года назад

Celeste is a popular speed running game it probably has auto splits

@thisguy.-. 2 года назад

No, as a small speedrunner myself I can say that the timer makes no such distraction, especially after hundreds or even thousands of attempts (even though my total attempt count sits at about 25 it still does not bother me at all since I'm too focused on trying to nail every single wavedash.) It only really is noticed in between levels since the timer uses in game time and pauses on the main level select screen.

@JetstreamSam343 2 года назад

It would distract you the first 5 tries of you speedrunning After that you're most likely used to it

@attmayMB 3 года назад

This is a remarkably fair explanation of a situation where someone made poor choices and decided to cheat. It didn't feel like an attack, though it could be tempting to present it that way. Fantastic video, as always!

@shrek5534 3 года назад

thanks man. good to see all my work appreciated

@Sockren 3 года назад

@@shrek5534 .

@memerman9268 3 года назад

@@shrek5534 .

@dhedetry8571 3 года назад

@@shrek5534 .

@seal0_ 3 года назад

@@shrek5534 .

@AnonimInc 3 года назад

Have to say, your narration is very soothing, great video!

@Msushi 3 года назад

Thanks! :)

@pineappleplaguedoc 3 года назад

agreed.

@nikto7297 3 года назад

@@Msushi bruh

@usernametaken017 2 года назад

@@nikto7297 ?

@nikto7297 2 года назад

@@usernametaken017 nothing

@LeafMaltieze Год назад

The moment I heard that it had ram ranch playing the entire time, I knew this run had to be a meme. There's no way anyone does that on a speed run they care about, and a 7 second improvement on a world record is a really big deal that a runner would definitely be proud of. That they didn't immediately realize that this was a joke submission is actually insane. How could you not see that this was a benevolent act?

@mythiccheese_ 3 года назад

I forgot to leave a comment but it's really cool seeing how fast you've started growing recently it is quite pog

@Ludvix 3 года назад

8:22 Parallel Universe vibes intensifies*

@HatGuyYT 3 года назад

hello verified person

@nutsuloid1887 3 года назад

spliced speedrun to get trolled by pokefloats

@crystalblister1 3 года назад

whens the next upload luvdix

@oolexer 3 года назад

@@crystalblister1 this man took a year to upload, and you expect him to upload after three weeks

@FakestLoogi 3 года назад

@@HatGuyYT imagine thinking Ludvix is just a verified person

@hydrei7066 3 года назад

this video changed my life

@JT-ev8sd 3 года назад

Why tho?

@priest4467 3 года назад

Why tho?

@ihatehandles69420 3 года назад

Why tho?

@doctqr 3 года назад

Why tho?

@nolanday1961 3 года назад

Why tho?

@MintyLime703 3 месяца назад

Even if this was somehow a legitimate attempt at getting away with cheating, the guy is too based for me to care. >appears outta nowhere >blatantly covers up save icon >bird.png >doesn't use timer >doesn't even try hiding the splice >ramranch.mp3 >doesn't elaborate >leaves

@GreigaBeastDS 8 месяцев назад

"The bird is complicit in Phoenix's cheating" Never trusting birds again.

@wolfe204 3 года назад

It seems like he went out of his way to make the run suspicious.

@Lelmao33 3 года назад

Ikr, it feels more like he intentionally tries to make mods enforce this new rules

@cralo2569 3 года назад

wow really i didn't notice

@bbgun9076 3 года назад

I really think that guy did it all on purpose. To get those rules on. No, seriously. Pesky bird, ram ranch, that dot. It seems he did everything to rise suspicion, and still look like intentionally cheating... Who knows if he is really a big brain, or smol brain.

@rpgbuster 3 года назад

*looks for Grian*

@Perdix64 3 месяца назад

I can’t believe that bird was complicit, smh.

@yikaii 2 года назад

“Splicing is quite possibly the worst thing a speedrunner can do” I’d say something like murder or rape but its your opinion i guess

@TheDiloEmpire 2 года назад

You do realize that he meant as a speedrunner not as a person

@danielpearson5852 3 года назад

Noone wants to change the rules. Phoenix: Fine. I'll do it myself.

@DarkIzo 3 года назад

>names run "2 berries" >fails to cover up berries *congratulations, you played yourself*

@atticusnari 3 года назад

Yeah ironically this is what probably made the moderators question the berries lol

@Graknorke 3 года назад

No I think that's what he was going for.

@dragon_pi 3 года назад

9:41 "Remember the bird?" - No why would I? It's just green and weird and eye-catching...

@iClone101 2 года назад

I really don't feel like he had any intentions of trying to pass this off as a legitimate speedrun, or even publish his world records in general. It seems like, based on his history, he doesn't really care at all about the leaderboards or how he places on them. It feels like he cares much more about his own personal records and self-satisfaction than about how he compares to others. And as many other comments have said, that submitted run appears to be the most blatantly obvious fake he could've made. The obnoxious music, the lack of any in-game timer, and the random green bird in the corner make this appear to be a complete troll, and in the end the people who really look like the idiots are the speedrun moderators who let this run pass in the first place.

@ayb144 3 года назад

absolutely did not expect that calm delivery of Grant Macdonald's Ram Ranch lyrics

@Misha-dr9rh 3 года назад

I will give msushi everything in my credit card if he sings the ram ranch lyrics in the same monotone voice with the instrumentals backing it

@qanzii5949 3 года назад

@@Misha-dr9rh holy shit i will also pay someone start a gofundme

@Dafuzzinator 3 года назад

"Did you see that?" No dude, you timed an ad to interrupt it, I didn't see shit

@smallblue08 3 года назад

thank you for this video, after watching it i decided to finally try this game that ive had sitting in my library for 2 years. this was probably one of the best games ive ever played, 2 days ago i finished up ch9 and beat all the c cides

@RealCutieMutie 7 месяцев назад

No HUD, a giant bird PNG, extreme meme music playing, the title pointed to the berry discrepancy, the only berry he collected was way out of your speedrun way. The player never submit runs and when he does he delete later, he also have a run with the time of the meme one but doesn't care to submit it. Some people are pointing that he send an unedited version first to a friend MOD, but the one to be put in the leaderboards still is the meme one. The MODs now talk shit of the players, but wouldn't be the first time MODs try to downplay a single player to clean their own hands. He may as well have cheated on all the runs he submitted in the past trying to get caught, but since he never was he just delete the run and try again. This may have been his last-ditch effort to be caught, and YET he got verify. This whole thing sound to me like a pro player making a troll run to screw with the MOD team, I don't know if it was to change the rules, to point the incompetence of the MODs, or just to troll. But what I know is that the player is not someone I would call a "cheater".

@YourPalKindred 3 года назад

Cannot believe my guy just casually drops in that he's an amazing Celeste speed runner Respect dude

@vercingetorix2128 3 года назад

"At the end of the run there was something... interesting" The Ad kicking in: REESES PEANUTBUTTER CUPS My brain: damn they really put a peanut butter cup in Celeste

@HeyGuysItsSuper 2 года назад

is this a poor person joke im too rich to understand

@micaelacrapo 2 года назад

b e e s e c h u r g e r

@softydepzy3835 Год назад

this was really interesting to see, I have played celeste before but never completed it and I don't follow the celeste speedrunning community in any way. I would not have noticed these, because I don't pay attention to things like these as a casual player. Really cool to see a community get together to take apart a run and look into the small details, well done!

@ihavenoideadanny Год назад

im assuming he made this run as a “there is an exploit” video

@evehellod9776 3 года назад

This looks too obviously faked, feels like his intention was to get caught

@fernandotorrero779 3 года назад

The background music is about a bunch of cowboys banging in a barn while a giant bird takes a massive part of the screen, if anyone needs more clues to know if that was fake then i feel sorry for them. Mind you i have never heard about celeste before but damn, that was almost a 4chan level shitpost.

@juniperrodley9843 3 года назад

@@fernandotorrero779 He also called explicit attention to the thing that got his run disqualified

@camiblack1 2 года назад

@@fernandotorrero779 and the original run had neither, but pointed at another problem. He basically fast-tracked what would be an obviously spliced run through a friend. It did a lot of exposure.

@DeWitherWarrior 3 года назад

This man is like both the narrator and the side-kick of the tv show, he is in the leaderboard of every speedrun scene he does a video on lmao

@_sprook_ 2 года назад

Well, that makes sense! He makes content about things he knows and is familiar with, and enjoys. Being a speed runner, he cares about speed runs.

@jordandwiggins1026 2 года назад

So like Armin in AOT?

@DeWitherWarrior 2 года назад

@@jordandwiggins1026 idk who that is but im hoping you will send me down a very fun rabbit hole, wish me luck!

@DS-ld8ns 2 года назад

@@DeWitherWarrior good luck.

@charliecharliewhiskey9403 Год назад

"But this event essentially ended his career..." no it didn't. He didn't HAVE a speed running "career", a point you laboured at the start of the video. Like, if a recreational marathon runner irl, one day out of the blue joined the Olympics... And then took steroids in front of the Olympics headquarters... And then passed a drug test while wearing a shirt that said "I ❤️ steroids" and playing "But then I got high" on a boombox... And then at the race, in full view of everyone, got into a taxi to the finish line... And then posed for photos with the taxi driver which he captioned on instagram with "taxi finish"... And then the race officials gave him a medal... And then serious olympians FINALLY said "hold on officials, are you for real?" a few days later... If all that happened, he wouldn't be "ending his career as an Olympic athlete". It would be clear that he had no interest in the Olympics. This dude literally didn't care about the leaderboards or "virtual trophies" (cringe way to put it by the way) or "a career". He clearly just liked playing the game fast, and saw a chance to play a prank while maybe improving things for those who actually believe "career" is a valid term for speed running. It's ridiculous to frame it as "ending a career": before this, he played alone, largely unknown, rarely if ever submitting to the leaderboards. And after this, he plays alone, largely unknown, rarely if ever submitting to the leaderboards... Not a thing has changed for him. He's not been permabanned (and even if he had been, it wouldn't affect him), he's not lost some audience, he's not lost friends or a livelihood. I'm not saying he should have lost anything, just saying that it can hardly be called losing a "career" if nothing actually changes.

@RealCutieMutie 7 месяцев назад

That is the best analogy that I heard in a long time. Also I totally agree with you.

@howaboutno3575 Год назад

Woah! You... You making the video managed to get in! Wonderful! Good job

@UltraMarlin 3 года назад

Eighteen changed lives in the comment section at Msushis youtube channel

@wit2817 3 года назад

bruh

@smellypepperoni768 3 года назад

lmao

@nightplaymc 3 года назад

I genuinely feel like he just didn't care and he uploaded a spliced one on purpose just to troll.

@Emleo. 3 года назад

@the hevy do you have some examples?

@cynthialymon8996 3 года назад

@@Emleo. I don’t remember exactly but I think someone with shark in their name had a cheated run. They didn’t reveal it until months after so it probably wasn’t trolling.

@cynthialymon8996 3 года назад

Loan Shark Joe.

@ThKrY 2 года назад

To be honest, the reason I like your videos is the ending music. Made me go through my game boy games for that gem.

@christiankim6864 Год назад

Op will never admit that he realized it was a shitpost until he read his comment section. Long live Archie, he was the troll we needed but not deserved

@edilmao 3 года назад

0:34 im sad that you didn't say "and msushi itself"

@Vienna3080 3 года назад

I genuinely imagine the mod didn’t verify the Speedrun originally because he was being bombarded by Ram Ranch lmao

@Misha-dr9rh 3 года назад

as if that's not a reason to verify it just to listen to that absolute masterpiece

@Cupcaeke 3 года назад

Msushi this is some of the best storytelling I've seen on youtube in a while man. Great job * clap clap clap *

@MoonstarAriadne 3 года назад

4:20 Quick Note: Mac users aren't capable of running LiveSplit(unless they pay for a special program called CrossOver), so LiveSplit One is more viable for them.

@EmraHemingway 3 года назад

“Which means THIS speedrun was SPLICED. But what IS a spliced run?” *cue Mario64 title screen music

@davidthecommenter 3 года назад

it's not the title theme, you're thinking of the file select theme.

@blueye95 3 года назад

i love the use of celeste's own music here, esp the 2a track around 1:28. great vid sushi

@Shanyae9 2 года назад

So, he never submit the run. Let him alone, then?

@elite6374 2 года назад

he dmed (non meme version) it to a moderator, and then after that, they submitted to boards, moderator they sent it to instantly verified it. he submitted it on purpose. check pinned comment

@alexmfs 9 месяцев назад

All the weird things were probably on purpose. The bird for what you said, the audio being a eong because splicing can be detected by audio and the name so, if somebody says he a bad person he can just say "its a joke! I said in the title how to realize its fake!"