The Wire - Spiros and Marlo discuss business 

Damn that’s deep

GREAT CATCH

Damn smart asf

Which is probably why the Greek and he are retired in the Bahamas or Lake Como in a beachfront mansion, while Marlo is probably locked away with Avon or dead.

Lol.

they weren't

Agreed, they were the obvious higher crime level where the money always goes. Keyword being "obvious".

the chain goes both ways

Jake Hopper This is why AA drug dealers can't win. The addicts don't have any rules. The dealer knows the supply personally to the extent that he shows respect. The connect is willing to pit the suppliers against each other for nothing more than convenience.

They for sure dealt with tony soprano or johhny sac somewhere down the line.

Ciaran Foy he showed him a dickpic

@@critiqueall9088 smh

@@critiqueall9088 😂😂😂

Critique ALL hahahahahaha

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+johnson “mp” donson Hobbs from Invisible Man. Totally different character. Such an underrated actor.

Ye he played in Entourage f.e. too

He was also had a recurring role on NYPD Blue, a great actor

+johnson donson And he played in True Detective as Police chief...

Dude was also a teacher in everybody hated chris

Nick M That was powerful line low key

Cold blooded!!!

Business over feelings

Chris is the power behind the throne, I've always said that.

@@printezstroman he was the muscle

@@printezstroman Marlo was the power. He was diabolical and violent.

@@printezstroman Eh kinda. There's a couple scenes that allude to the two of them being in a 50/50 relationship. More so they were Marlo looking to Chris not for approval, but if something needed to be done.

50 cent little evil brother

lol

more like jar jar binks

Ha!

AerionMagnus more like your mother.

ThatSounds AboutRight yo got defensive😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Lmao. So true.

I mean, he is a gangsta. The Greeks, however, seem to be much more "international syndicate".

@@RaptorJesus The Greeks are a cut out for the CIA

@@codyvandal2860 Well, the CIA is a spy agency. The whole point of a spy agency is to...commit crimes in other countries. So that'd make them(and basically any other spy agency) an..."international crime syndicate".

@@RaptorJesus you're not wrong about the Greeks but the whole point of a spy agency first and foremost is to gather intelligent and intercept information :)

Simon Carlile simple as that ....

That line and "hopper wanna hear a pop, see the damage you know" are terrifying. The ugliest of human actions can be explained so simply. And its some peoples daily world in that terrifying simplicity. There's no justice or plan or fairness. Just the game.

Message

It’s why I find it amusing when Instagram thots and the folks who are stilll growing and learning say shit like ‘’I hate normal. Normal is boring. I like weird. I like when things aren’t the same. I like not knowing what to do tomorrow. I like when things aren’t the same. Change it up.’’

My man Francisco killing it with the quote. Damn straight indeed. ✊

@@steverogers7601 In some cases, yes. But not all.

@@steverogers7601 okay incel.

"man overcame his grief"

That shit is truer than anything else

Marlo is the worst kind of human.

@@positivemanifestations3247 yes like Pablo Escobar

@@positivemanifestations3247 nah man Avon was just as ruthless thats why he only sold Joe's head for 100k. Avon would have done the same eventually because he did just as much shady shit as Marlo to get to the top. Plenty innocent witnesses, plenty of citizens dead just to clean up when the heat was on. The game is game and Avon/Marlo played it best.

What is ac

@@drizzydadraco4658 atlantic city

I never seen Marlo have any fun I was waiting for them to show us but he went to jail 😭😭

@@yahshuayoungeenthenewwave6445 he’s like gus from bb and bcs. Addicted to the power, not the money.

It's hard to imagine Marlo on vacation, like he doesn't even seem to enjoy all the money he makes. I feel like he just goes home and stares at the wall unblinking

Yes he is killer on Bosch

He is a really underrated actor.

@Satchel Charge that’s crazy I grew up playing Halo Reach

@@desihayward2510 Wait... did he do voice work for Reach? The comment you were replying to is gone

@@StainsStainsStains yeah he played Emile

always business

He learned it all by watching what happens if you don't control your emotions as he went up the ranks and even learned something new from Prop Joe maybe. Sometimes the experiences of others is the best teacher and you dodge some bullets.....

@@bmwvillan it's like that in real life also , losing your cool never leads to anything good ( and makes you look weak ).

No they respected & feared Marlo it was Marlo who ran New York out of East Baltimore. Lol East Baltimore was scared to muscle up for their territory. There's co-op scene when they were all talking about how Marlo gets rid of his bodies they respected that. That's when fat face Rick said I like to see Marlo with us on that then Prop Joe came up with the idea of getting Omar to rob the cars game to lure Marlo in. Another co-op scene Marlo told folks to "muthafuckas shut the fuck up I'm tired of hearing ya'll shit" after that not 1 single gangsta in that room said a word or attempted to check Marlo. I think Slim Charles & Cheese was the only 2 ppl in the room who wasn't scared of Marlo now war wise Marlo would have killed Cheese with no problem Cheese wasn't disciplined at all but we seen Slim Charles go up against Marlo when he was with Avon. But all & all they most definitely respected Marlo they knew he was with the dumb shit he went up against Avon without hesitation yea Avon didn't have Weebay Stinkum or Bird not even Eggy Mule & Shorty Boyd got his whole ack up but none the less he went up against the crown without a second guess. Marlo reminds me of Robert Baratheon love the war but was a shit King.

They respected him he was young & eager he was just bat shit crazy killing everything all the time so they had to watch him

You don't know the difference between not having respect and discontent but that's okay

@@Rahim.ali80 no man you missed all the point. They were scared of him and thats why no one talked. At the end of the show, because of marlos ignorant ways of trying to have a name he realised he dont have no reputation or name out there in the streets. People like omar, avon and joe will live on but not some dipshit like marlo.

@@Rahim.ali80 The gist of Marlo's character is that he is incredibly good at earning "respect" through terrorizing people weaker than him, but his strategy immediately falls apart the moment he can't just have Chris and Snoop assassinate his problems, and it frustrates him to no end. The poker scene and his ending at the society party really show this. He's a nightmare for anyone involved in the street level drug game, but when he's around connected people who make him feel powerless he immediately goes out to bully people he knows can't stand up to him

Power, respect, muscle, KILLERS!

Spiros wasn't the boss though.

Trilmonté it dont matter he was his shooters boss

@@Raphie009 he was the face of "the greeks" so he was their boss but not the boss

And the orthodox church or temple in the background, perfectly framed.

+Samwise Gamgi LMAO.

Jasper Aquino This was 2006-2008 , cell phones were definitely apart of social culture then. Not as big as most people don't use them as much but they were pretty normalized by then.[I had a cell phone when i was 14 back in 2007]

+Samwise Gamgi He was showing marlo how he was conducting business with pictures.

You have to explain that one....

it was more like 2004 and phones with cameras were pretty new.

voice of a dependable man :)

It echoes in that final scene. Marlo just lives moment to moment ready to die but as long as he's alive shit is going HIS way.

He's happy when he sees Chris playing with the kids

+THE BOSS MANUAL It's actually right after this scene when they go past Chris' people's house.

@@fuzzdunlop4945 shows how close they are

He smiles at the card game, when the oldtimer says that he will have Morgan Freeman drive his car.

Yeah, him thinking about Atlantic City was the one time he was happy on this show.

He had a plan, "this town is full of boys that wore the crown", "the point is, its my time now". He got it, he managed to outplay the best of them, in the person of Joe, and now he was in direct contact with the main source of drugs in Baltimore. To go even further, we can see that the only person Marlo is ever talk in a friendly, personal and human like form was Slim Charles, the best muscle out there. A cold killer, remember how he killed Cheese. Marlo knew that Slim will never be impressed by his roughness, and allways called him, Slim and tall man, like they were buddies. Because in front of Slim, he could never keep up the cyborg apperance, Slim could see right trough him.

@@cRobbone88 I agree with the first part but not the second. Marlo is wearing the crown and he's in a good mood because this is literally his dream come to fruition and it's a beautiful day. He is friendly with Chris, his second. However, remember his thing about names and how he disrespects Bodie by calling him by the wrong name. Him calling Slim Tall Man is not a sign of respect, it's actually a sign of disrespect because of how informal it is. Yes, Slim and others saw through him but that's not actually difficult because Marlo was never actually hiding his ambitions. Prop Joe just overplayed his hand and got betrayed by Cheese.

@@deeznutz9869 informal? Gtfoh that's what his friends called him as well at times.

Shiiiiit...he had jus secured the plug....that nigga couldn't hold that emotion back...lol

@@lircox what other times does anyone refer to Slim Charles as tall man?

Why do you think Avon would have smelt it without any intel?

@@anantsharma7955 Avon knows a soldier when he sees them. _"Game recognize game"_ as the saying goes. Avon knows that once you put a gun on a soldier that you better finish that soldier off right then and there. Otherwise, the soldier will come back at you, *_guaranteed._*

Very true. Chris should have told him about Omar’s anticss and Marlo would have been on go mode

he was i can quote from chris to marlo. "they saying omar can't be got" chris didn't want to go up against omar. he convinced marlo to put a bounty up because chris knew he couldn't get him and he would appear weak

There are many things I don't understand in the relationship between Chris and Marlo. When Omar is doing Marlo's name dirty, Chris tells the crew they shouldn't brief Marlo "Man's got enough on his mind". That's Chris taking a decision about what the boss should know and what not. Then, when Marlo shoots Devonne, Chris pats him on the back, like a kingpin soothing a novice. And in this scene, Marlo wants to celebrate his success and Chris needs to remind him of the biggest risk. It's three times Chris imposes himself. He's a ruthless killer, a savvy mind, and has the aura of the ultimate boss. Yet he's playing second man to Marlo, who always comes across as playing above his league and who can only pull that off thanks to his 2nd man. Marlo's ruthlessness was by proxy. It was probably meant to be portrayed this way, but I've never understood why.

That look when Marlo told Spiros that Joe taught him not to use phones as if he didn't have the intuition not to use them lol

he learnt what he could joe was always a sellout he would do anything to save himself he sold out the greeks and the package to save himself

🐍 🐍 🐍 saa

We learn the greatest lessons, not from our friends, but, from our enemies.

@Stephen Lindsay Too kind

In the end he joined wee bey in prison

@@letitburnforever2122 thats the penn u must not know.

My headcanon is that Marlo's first kill was Chris's sexually abusive father. Loyal ever since.

@@geordiejones5618 where u make that up at

@@Vercingetorix.Fantasia makes sense for me: chris did mike's dad like he been there before. I imagine the dude was like military minded and marlo found out the shit, got a gun and killed him right in front of chris, because he could be running his own crew easily but he got more loyalty to marlo than string did to avon. marlo had to have have done something like that to make a scary nigga like chris feel underneath him.

He didn't get to kill Omar so instead he goes after Chalky White.

Most people suspect Chris was former military based on certain character traits.

I mean, Chris wasn’t really a street gangster compared to the others tbh. To him it seemed more like a job than a lifestyle, no pleasure in the game, it was just his 9-5

@@alexjames4770 something happened to chris to make him this way the way he kills it seems like he likes it

@@jonhtsoncurk7009 I disagree, he seems indifferent to it, oftentimes trying to soothe the victim. It’s Snoop and Marlo who obviously like the killing.

@@alexjames4770 I think you could say he enjoyed it in the sense that anyone enjoys something they're *good* at. I see his attempts at soothing his victims to be a courtesy to them, it's not personal, just the job. Except, you know, the guy who was touching the kids. He enjoyed and savoured every little moment of that.

Yeah feel like marlo hardly ever got to have fun. Couldn’t even make an AC trip happen for himself.

Like they would do in The Sopranos. A la “Pine Barrens” or something. 😂😂

@@PoweredByAudio Spiros on the phone: "The guy killed 16 Chechen rebels. He was in the interior ministry" *In AC Marlo to Chris: "You not gonna believe this. He dropped 16 Czechoslovakians. M'fer was an interior decorator!" Chris: "His house looked like shit"

he was the perfect client for the greeks

Well, what do you mean by "like?" Although people are all complex and the line between right and wrong is often unclear, Marlo is- by all accounts- a violent, murderous criminal who preys upon the weak and the innocent. He's a bad guy. Does he have a moral code? Yes. Is he a competent kingpin? Certainly. Does Jamie Hector put on a stellar performance as Marlo- is Marlo an interesting character? Absolutely. So what is there to not like? You want every criminal on the show to be like Avon, Prop Joe, Omar, or Brother Mouzone? Or, do you want a cast full of different personalities? You need guys like Stringer and Marlo to tell the full story.

@@macnolds4145 i like marlo bc he is by far the most interesting character. he has little to no backstory. like he just spawned and just started having his way

@@macnolds4145 by like meaning hes nothing to like and the more I think about neither was Avon. Most dont realize Avon and Marlo are so alike! Now Prop could be liked because while yes he definitely was conniving he all and all stayed out the way and was never with the violence. Only person in the underworld side to me that was likeable was Omar. Mans man in every way.

The greeks knew what was going on between everybody,they didn't care nor get involved just wanted a dependable partner to fill Joe place.the greeks saw that marlo was the new king soon & he checked out & passed otherwise the greeks would not meet with him, their organization seemed bigger & more sophisticated structured than marlo & barksdale,their not going to just do business with any drug dealer recommended by their former enforcer in prison who was the only one arrested in earlier seasons of show.They left $50 million in drugs sit on dock to be seized & the old man said something like " we got plenty more", thats a organization thats well financed that can take such losses.with the greeks in with the FBI i can't see how they wouldnt know what their partners in all areas of crime were doing for the security of their own organization, remember proposition Joe wasn't the greeks only partner. They supplied everything to criminal organizations,including women trafficking if you remember that episode of the bodies found in shipping container.

nah he was showing him the clock maneuver (how to setup for meets) marlo isnt retarded he knows what a text message is, remember iin a later scene lester freamon has marlos phone and the big clock and waves it at marlo as if to tell him " i broke your code, your secret" in this scene is Spiro showing marlo how they setup meets, without any words or voice messages

Well said.

@@Itzsfo0 hmmmmm I always thought it was just a text. How do they have meet up with juts clocks? Like alarm set ups?

And he's not even Greek!

*Jewiest Jew

@@SeaJayBelfast wait.. what?? they're Jewish???

@@cashless1980 I believe so, yeah.

@@SeaJayBelfast what about the Italians in the sopranos? Are they Italian?

There is a compilation,look up;Wire Trap Movies.It has most of Marlo's scenes.

Anthony Condegni A war time consigliere at it too.

Marlo was thinking to celebrate in Jersey, lol. Partlow understood that it was no time to celebrate.

he has to be loyle to his capo

I figure he was using something that was either encrypted or deceptive for communication. he tells him to use the phone for things a normal person would use a cellphone for, but shows something for doing business on it.

Spiros is telling him to talk about normal stuff on the phone since it's part of a cover. If no one knows him, they'll move on. The problem is that, unlike Spiros, Marlo is already known.

Cazmo Rivera he was showing Marlo how to text

I like the scene with Avon & Stringer Bell on the roof. 2 friends discussing their childhoods not knowing that they're both setting each other up. This scene is good too

What were they tho ?

@@Waltherppk78 It was never revealed. But there was a scene where Spiros said that they were not Greek.

@@Waltherppk78 russians

@@PeterParker-yg6fc nah they weren’t Russians ...

@@Waltherppk78 They do speak Greek and enjoy Greek food so I always assumed Greek Cypriot, technically not Greek but still culturally Greek. My second guess would be Macedonian for similar reasons. If not either of those then maybe Armenian. They definitely were not Russian.

Exactly. Actually only Stringer tried to "bury" these old street ways and see the wide picture but he was unlucky...

As shown in Season 2 they had their hands in many enterprises: Stolen Goods, Prostitution etc. Drugs was just 1 part of their business.

Nah they'd just kill him

How to text pictures of clock emojis

Both, actually. Remember Marlo was already working the connect before he killed Joe. Once Cheese put him up on all the side deals he cut with Omar, if there was any hesitation to kill Joe due to sentiment was dead at that point. Remember also when Joe tried to bargain for his life, Marlo says something in the order of, "Joe you'll be up to mischief in no time". Brilliant writing.

It was brilliant writing, but it had moments where it may have outsmarted itself. I felt Marlo would have been a dead man walking after running aground,and getting locked up. The Greek and Vondas would have saw to that. They killed the Dock Chief for less. Marlo can breach their entire operation. They would have killed this guy and his crew the moment they got the window.

Kawan Woodley he killed him for the plug. I dont recall marlo finding out about joe setting that up. Furthermore as long as joe was alive he was going to (stay) the greeks primary distributor. They only considered marlo as a back up insurance policy incase something happened to joe which (marlo conviced them of). So he had to kill him for the plug.

Kawan Woodley up

@@ctaylor2805 Exactly Marlo never found out about the card game

Ajay Johal Doubt it since Chris took all those bodies for Marlo when they got caught towards the end.

When you grow up in a certain environment, you learn and think the world is that way. Either rich or poor, you are a product of the environment you grow up in. Remember the first time we see Marlo, ghosting, just like Bubbles says it, not even talking on the phone with the boys. Then came Joe and tryied to "civilise", bring him up and broader his horizon, "i dont talk about business on the phone, Joe taught me that". And now, somebody else, a new environment in wich Marlo has to adapt quick, shows him that the phone is something you can use in your advantage. Something new for him, something that he wasnt aware of. Hance the surprise.

I believe it's to do with the 'clock photo' code system they work on. Admittedly it doesn't come across that well.

@@cRobbone88 you made no sense, b.... Lol.. dude was asking about what Spiros shows Marlo on the phone-- either a photo or some way to circumvent the cellphone tracking feature in that phone.... who knows... we do know it ain't shit bout what u typed lol

Sane Man lmao

Its his swagger yo!

Lol

that you, Pilgrim.

Each hand of time showed coordinates within the city to meat so you had to look on a map and figure where to meet.

False…that same lawyer freed him with 10mil

That's Chris his number 2

That will be a mirracle!

Weebay was too. I dont know your age, but at some point you will realise that you will not live forever, and whatever play you have in mind, in the end, will pass by you and you will be left with only what you have build. In the real world. In the world that kids go to school, they have fevers and the wifie is not very ok with the couch you afford. And real players like Bay and Chris, real tough guys, knews that. The game is just a game. The real world is something even tougher. This is show always generates the most complex talkings i have on the internet.

Yeah. We can't forget that these guys are still human at the end of the day. Even the biggest psychopaths have families. Killers don't just hide around in dark caves all day.

I find WeeBey (minus the party scene in Season 1 where he treats the dead stripper like trash) to be less intimidating than Chris though. I can imagine Bey chilling over some video games with his kids or going for some ice cream where Chris looks like the type of dude to just sit in the dark thinking about his next target or teaching his kids how to sharpen a knife lol