The World's Best Main Battle Tank? The Leopard 2 | Forged for Battle 

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NO, not a highly evolved MBT, he's comming for my Computer! You can't trust the M B T, always have your ICBM ready! Just in case.

@@Juno101 Don’t worry, your PC should be safe if you use the Kontakt-5 armor recommended by Bosnian Ape Society.

I appreciate you need to make a living, but I'm afraid War Chunder, Waste of Time and this 3rd product are all way too gamey for me. So thanks anyway but someone else can use my code.

Ever wondered where did the tank go?? They had to destroy it as it was changing the time and space around it.

@@simpleknight1922 In New Zealand we have tons of them in museums, you can find some in wanaka. (Bob Semple)

Arjun bouta roll up on the Bob Semple and destroy it with supreme [INDIA WORLD SUPERPOWER 2020] power

@@C4Cole05 no indias tanks will run in fear from the bob semple

@@mouhibgh6928 all tanks will

Dont know what the rate of fire has anything to do whit the first shot but this was a meme comment so yeah

You can deliver any shot you want...but will the shot go through, now that's your issue :P

@@BIOSHOCKFOXX Hopefully, enemy tank crews will just piss themselves in fear after beholding the beast that is the Bob Semple tank.

@@finnishboo4192 it does when it has high caliber Bren guns, capable of piercing the thickest tank armours, like the IS-3 or Jadgtiger. The fast fire rate with an armour penetration of 689mm or armour, combined with the sturdiest construction and incredibly reliable engine and transmission systems, it's a damn blessing they were never put into production, even with a single squadron of semples an entire country could be invaded in days. Today, a Semple would have no difficulty taking out an Abrams, Challenger III, T-90 or Leopard 2.

@@finnishboo4192 ah boo, it's a you.

1 month comment with no replies? That’s weird

@@TGentong 😀

yes

69th like nice

these are history lessons we actaully want

Learning but fun

yes

Well The leopard 2 doesn't deserve the title no tank does because tanks are built for the doctrine of their armies and what about tanks like the K2 Black panther or the type 10 nekomada you'd have to dismiss both those as inferior to The leopard 2

@@spartanx9293 yep. I think that way too.

@Tendors World but that's not what he said he said it was the best not one of the best of course the leopard 2 gets put in the one of the best list but it shares that spot with modern versions of the Abrams the Japanese type 10 the K2 Black panther the t14 Armata and possibly that new rh130 challenger

The leo is so good the swiss army uses it.

@@davidty2006 why the Swiss?

Sehr schön 🤩

No betrter than any other tank of its generation

Agreed, former gunner on A4 and later A5.

@@ROBERTN-ut2il it was better, but it still had its problems

You are the best tank in the world, although I'm not sure you could beat the Bob Semple tank

@Moritz der Echte usoaians? you mean Freeaboos?

@@kousand9917 obeseaboos

ah yes, while they are at war. War Thunder sitting back relaxing.

Man, i can't even get a match at AW

@@Kevin-fj5oe Heay PvP is pretty much dead. Everybody plays PvE.

Is it me or are German Tanks in WOT are nerfed like Over Nerfed

@@deeperthantheabyss624 It's just you probably. Although they're not the best, they're still ok.

Imho it's the Panthers that disguised as M10s in the bulge is the best

@@thesmuggest6680 no

@@thesmuggest6680 the gods look down upon anyone that doesnt pray to the bob semple

Ha! Arjun wants a talk with you

A key selling point is that the Leopard 2 passed the beer test.

Except you are German Bundeswehr. Not even half of the tanks are functional.

You aren't wrong and I said this in another post too but the thing with Germany is they don't need a big army. What they need is a little effective force cabable of defending their country and they have that in the Bundeswehr even though they are underfunded.

@@k_ir3868 They can't defend themselves

It's also cheap

It is

@@zoethetank2789 yes

I bet your favorite is a panzer

@@agooddemoman8603 Well obviously lol

@@mr_confuse lol

You mean the wehraboos doing exact thing with Leo 2?

perhaps 🐄

Incorrect the best mbt doesn't exist

@@kusajko3644 doesnt even have anything to do with wehraboos

@@meddlus2098 in some part it does. In some other parts it has to do with people who think that no matter what Germans touch they do that better than others. It's not true and it's a stupid stereotype.

Is it though? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7gSiRZNtI-A.html

The speed was because the germans didn't put the composite armor on because they fell behind and didn't tell the testers and the FCS was made by texas instruments

Yes, the Leopard 2 prototype programm with all its different iterations is a really interesting subject in my opinion as well

@@user-nd9jp2lj2r Especially the 20mm version that’s in WT

Haven't found a place for mine yet either

Put it in a lake

Agreed. The only reason why countries don't use tanks as powerful as the bob semple is because [redacted] there are no words in the english language that could possibly explain it's true power.

@@diegomoreno7760 Care to elaborate? I'm not saying its the best,no tank is. They are built for their armies doctrine,besides the point anyways.

Shit you’re right, we forgot about the bob semple! Capable of a top speed of [redacted] and sporting armor capable of taking shells of [redacted] calibers with no damage!

The Bob Semple is not a Main Battle Tank It's his own army, navy and air force in just one vehicle.

Bob Semple is banned by the geneva suggestion

Doesnt indonesia got their own armor package for 2a4 versions?

@@chechenfeels most likely, a lot of nations domestically upgrade imported armor to better fit their standards

@@baronentertainment362 Ye like sweden but i think what indonesia got was made by rheinmetall just like the Singapor Army

Yes!

@@chechenfeels Yep just like Singapore.

Also Americans: *find's out their Abrams were influenced by the Leopard Development* "Wat."

I literally never heard anyone referring to the M1 as the best tank. It's mostly between the Leopard 2A7 and T-90M when you ask someone here in europe. I might add though, that every modern MBT is incredible and that differences mostly exist on paper in numbers, not so much in reality. In reality a T-90, Leo 2 or M1 all can do what the other can and can't do what the others also can't do.

@@fabianmichaelgockner5988 Considering they both evolved from the MBT-70 project, that's even less surprising than the sunrise every morning.

Because the Leopard II hasn't ever been in combat.

@@franciscofranco4520 say that to the soldiers who drove in the Middle East and Afghanistan.

@@cmdr4589 at least the pfp is on time

*visible confusion*

Your pfp is confusing me

@@vorosgellert5606 what y'all saying Joe Trump isn't the president? I've been lied to

@@stalker5299 no its actually Donald Biden

I can always use more footage of tanks but I plan to get much more myself once I can travel more. Anything rare or unique is always useful though

Oh panzer of the lake, what is your wisdom?

@@atv123 don't use tiny barges for your tanks

@@atv123 use your enemies anti tank gun to test your tank armour

@@atv123 do not stan near the bomb

Oh panzer of the lake, what is your wisdom?

because composites duh uh

Is that your voice at start?

Shut it libby /s

They forget tanks are not what win wars, and a F-15 or 18 can turn a tank into a pile of scrap so the Leo kinda sucks in that regard, you have to remember in war America can play both speed and Attrition

Also, many Leopard 2 fans overlook that the Leopard 2 still retains the same issue with ammunition storage being at the front of the vehicle. A lucky shot in the front or at the left side can easily send the entire tank erupting in a massive explosion, which is far more likely to kill the crew than something like a fuel tank fire. The M1’s fire issue is an easier system to overcome, since, even if one starts, it’s relatively easy to get out of the tank and, most important of all, the ammunition can be ejected to prevent total loss of the vehicle and its crew.

@@bambihall169 Tanks do win Wars, that's something everyone forgets, yes a plane or a helicopter can just destroy a tank but everything has counters. "Oh, they forget that their planes can just get shot down by our SAMs", "Their SAMs can be destroyed by our infantry", "Their infantry can be destroyed by our tanks". It all goes back on its self, so no, while tanks technically do not win wars, they don't exactly not win wars either. It's a collective effort.

@@bambihall169 infantry actually wins wars. And you might wanna consider one thing: for planes to even do anything CAS-related you need complete air superiority, unless you like getting hit by a SAM. Infantry with an ATGM or even a disposable rocket launcher are a bigger threat at the moment.

The difference is, 2 of the 3 mentioned tanks are over-glorified pieces of scrap metal

@@anm10wolvorinenotapanther32 I agree. Bigger always doesn’t mean better

At least they are cat

@Tendors World the panther broke down often due to its final drive issue but It was surely better than the tiger

You want to know something they all have in common a shortage of parts

@Pommy Pie Fact of the matter is that the t 64 was literally being produced before the first leopard 1 was made. A decade later they had the t80 and other upgrades of the t72 which were also ahead of there time.

@Pommy Pie Never said the 80s. t72s and t80s were all made in the 70s, thats why I said a decade later not two... If the soviet union had the funds they probably would have continued makes amazing tanks. That being said I would still rather be in a t72 or t80 over a m60a3.

Bob Semple was ahead of its time

@Pommy Pie T-64 was introduced at around 1963-'64, a decade later it would've seen Chieftain Mk5's, Leopard 1A2's and M60A2's. It's still by far the most capable, especially given that the T-64B was right around the corner and it'd already been upgraded to the T-64A standard in 1968.

Unfortunately for the T64, it is no longer it’s time.

Thats why I say the Americans get the top here, the Abrams has been in constant combat and proved itself.

@@bambihall169 exessive fuel consuption

@@badgermcbadger1968 I dont really see that as a concern when your dealing in wars nowadays

​@@badgermcbadger1968 Sometimes I question the severity of the fuel problem when I look at Turkish Leopards getting turret ejected by landmines. Abrams just doesn't do that, but you get out of gas and the still not remedied turret ring UFP skip.

@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 you have to note that the turkish Leopards were of the 2A4 model from the 1980s, without any significant upgrades and used very poorly in city combat while being designed for combatting soviet tanks in open grounds

ah, a Challenger 2 fan

Oh no the bri ish are back everyone run

Also the best officers. Challys are madlads only tanks.

@@Joshua_N-A that's why the boiling vessel. Without proper tea you're never getting the best officers and gentlemen.

@@jwenting darjeeling, orange pekoe, rosehip, assam, earl grey, airdrop in 3...2...1...

I don’t get it.

@@matthewjones39 ukraine war, lots of losses for the leopard 2

@@SomeguyWhoLikesVideos Yeah. That’s usually what happens in war.

@@matthewjones39 im mostly not a fan of the leopard 2 and im referring to losses of leo 2s compared to the other fielded tanks

Exactly. Plus the logistics. Poland is planning to buy Abrams tanks now, even though it has Leopard 2's. This makes no sense to me: it's much more effective to buy more of what perhaps is a SLIGHTLY less effective tank, but which you know how to use and have the logistics and training systems for already in place, than to buy something SLIGHTLY more effective which you can't afford to operate anyway.

The Abrams is battle tested and proven in large numbers. The Leo, not so much.

@@generalkayoss7347 Lol the Leo had many battles and it is THE BEST but ok

Of course they are extremely similar, M1 Abrams and Leopard 2 started suspiciously after the MBT 70 jointventure. They have the same horsepower, almost the same main gun, basically the same weight and profile and are drawing upon the same industries(USA and germany OTP) for upgrades. They're basically twins.

@@misterplayer7250 wehraboo cope

yeah its modularity and upgradability is why the thing is so popular for exports. every country can modify and make their own versions of it with addon armor where they think they need it. Like the STRV122 for example.

A country being able to afford it is actually an exceedingly important factor. If you can afford 100 Leopard 2 from a post-Cold War bargain sale or 20 some-other-MBT with no discount, there's simply no other tank that would be five times better than Leopard 2!

Turns out they weren't that good

The Nordic countries like them

\*Happy Canadian noises\*

It probably doesn't have much actually to do with how 'good' they are; rather how available they are. Im sure germany exports them for a much better price than most of the competition. Parts availability is also likely much better due to the location of Germany. At the end of the day, quantity and logistics usually triumphs over how modern the technology they use is.

@@UpToSpeedOnJaguar But that's like literally the major part of it? If a car can do 100% of the things for 100.000€, it's impressive. But if a different car from a different company can do 95% of the same things for 50.000€ and at a lower running cost, it's even more impressive

@@Sebastian-yl7nq that's my point. I wouldn't call the leo 2 the "best," but for the money, it's what europe likes to go with. It's available. I personally believe maximum crew survivability is what makes a tank the best, but this is just my opinion. You can build tanks, but it takes longer to make a truly skilled crew.

guys it is crazy but i think this is jojo reference

iS This A JojO rEfErNce?!!!!

I am German and i can agree

Best boi Stroheim

Fuck Rommel, Stroheim was the best german during the war

I was just saying something about that, lol. If you compare Abrams getting hit to Leopard getting hit. The Leopard has some nasty secondary explosions while the Abrams is like "lol wut" as the fuel burns off worst case. They really need to delete that or have a good blowout system. Store the ammo angled vertical and have it blow forward or something as a sealed cold storage travel rack.

that was actually "fixed" on the newest versions ... the DM63 ammunition just doesnt explode when hit

Armored Warfare the game he talks about at the start

It's quite impressive for a private company to build something like that, something that is considered world class.

@@Joshua_N-A Indeed. Gov let the Company die, and now, we are searching for a New MBT. Irony, I say.

@@sarge4244 the modern non-Western tank would be Russia T series, Chinese VT4, S. Korean K2 Black Panther and Japanese Mitsubishi Type 10 as well as the Turkish Altay and Indian Arjun.. Has any of these countries offered Brazil their tanks?

@@Joshua_N-A Our army can't buy things like the Challenger or Abrams because of our geography And infrastructure, they are too heavy for us. And the military did not reveal what tanks they are willing to test.

@@sarge4244 it's a shame. Brazilian companies prove that they have the potential and Brazil nearly become the place for alternatives. It's a proof that Latin American heavy industry is a serious player on international stage. Malaysia could've at least have the MB-3 Tamayo had the government acted quicker, and could've acquire the Osorio had we have a bit more money that time. We were looking for an MBT in the 90's. South Korea once offered over 200 K1s, which too much for us. Our heavy industry could've establish a joint venture with Brazilian companies in defense related products in order to compete at least in some degree with Singapore, they too have an impressive heavy industry.

Cursed by design?

Were there any German Leo2s fighting in 1991 Gulf War and in Kosovo?

Me too and three

I actually liked the flash and smoke/dust of this footage though. But war thunder has indeed better models.

The grind of WT leaves alot to be desired though. Besides, AW has been chugging along on a smaller dev team than the other bigger tank games.

The thing that always jars me when I see Armored Warfare footage is that the tanks still look pristine even after taking a penetrating hit. It's only when they're actually destroyed that any damage at all is visible.

Armored warfarr has better details such as lights on tanks (front lights and back lights turnijg on when reversing) and after the shot ypu can see thick smoke coming out from the fume extractor.

that'd be correct, plus it has the benefit of running on diesel instead of jet fuel which simplifies supply lines.

​@@jonahdewitt8464 I'm not trying to fanboy for the Abrams, but its turbine is less picky about fuel than most internal combustion engines. Every source I have seen says that it can run on diesel, and many other hydrocarbons, in addition to the jet fuel.

@@jonahdewitt8464 Abram's turbine can use multiple fuel types, not only jet fuel. Merica knows the quirk of the turbine but accepted it because of its performance and versatile acceptance of fuel, even if it is quite thirsty, America can be spendy with it's supplies

and hamburger eating noises too

@@marcomarcio950 and vodka bottle noises too

Strangely, I only saw the comments that say sth. will happen but not these comments.

weirdly enough the leo 2a4/5/6 served poorly in contrast against the likes of m1a2/t-90a/chally 2 in counter terror operations Turkish intervention in Syria Turkey operates 354 Leopard 2A4 tanks. Initially using other tank types including upgraded M60s, in December 2016 Turkey deployed a number of Leopard 2A4s to the Syrian Civil War against Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) as part of Operation Euphrates Shield.[citation needed] Initially, three of the Turkish Leopard 2A4s operating in Syria were destroyed or damaged by ISIS using anti-tank missile systems (possibly Fagot or Konkurs anti-tank guided missiles obtained from Syrian or Iraqi Army captured stocks).[citation needed] In mid-December 2016, two 2A4 tanks were captured by ISIS near al-Bab city in Syria during Euphrates Shield operations; Amaq News Agency posted video of the captured vehicles.[79] By late December 2016, Islamic State had captured or incapacitated 10 Leopard 2A4s. Some of the 10 were damaged by IEDs, while the rest were damaged by anti-tank weapons.[80] This is the largest number of Leopard 2A4 tanks to have been incapacitated in any one conflict.[80][81] Additional ISIS propaganda images and video depicting several completely destroyed Leopards, some with their turrets blown off, were published in January 2017.[82] Tanks which suffered the worst damage may have been destroyed by air strikes in order to prevent capture but sources generally state that the damage was caused solely with anti-tank missiles or car bombs driven by a suicide bomber (also known as suicide vehicle borne improvised explosive devices or SVBIED).[83][84] In January 2017, the German newspaper Die Welt reported that ISIL fighters used 9M133 Kornet anti-tank missiles to destroy six Leopard 2 tanks used by the Turkish military in Syria.[85] At least eight Leopard 2 MBT have been destroyed according to photographic reports.[86] Turkey also confirmed the use of Leopard 2A4 tanks during the Turkish military operation in Afrin to the German government.[87] Sources: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_2 nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/germany’s-leopard-2-tank-syria-was-beaten-badly-battle-why-78441

@@freddarau Syrians fucked up those turkish leopards because our military deployed those like they are invincible without any infantry help

Yes I think thats the case, espacially with the new A7+, but I believe he will cover that in the second part.

They're on par...the Leopard is a great tank but the abrams is the standard for a reason

@@ywe3 wdym the “standard”? Because if we’re talking off if it gets copied then I guess the t 72 would be the standard

@@potatojuice5124 what I mean is WESTERN standard...the Eastern standard hasn't deviated since the T-54M...but that being said different doctrines get different tools...the western powers based their doctrines on a massed Soviet wave so western tanks are defensively designed and also incorporate the ability to sprint from one position to another in very short order...this is why western designs almost always have 10°of depression and very thick turrets...Russian designs are made for the attack [despite what the Soviet union's stance of defense might make you think]...they're low slung, big gunned, medium tanks...i.e. fodder...

@@ywe3 that’s fair. I wouldn’t call the Abrams the standard because pretty much all nato nations have their own designs and unique doctrines.

Sorry but thats not really true. the 2a6 tungsten ammo isnt really inferior at all. also using depleted uranium at all(in whatever it is,armor or ammo) is the most stupid fucking thing. the only good thing about it is that its cheap af. on the downside: higher cancer rates among crew and population where this ammo gets fired. US tanks are forbidden to use DU rounds on german testing sites. thank god

@@chechenfeels yep, they use depleted uranium because the main wolframium deposit on earth its on China and the second ones in Germany and Chile.

@@chechenfeels Sorry but that's not true. DM63A1, the current most advanced ammunition in service with the Bundeswehr, is objectively inferior to M829A4. Not only is it made of an inferior material compared to the US uranium-alloy, but it's also only about 2/3 as long. The extended L/55 barrel exists to compensate for the weaker pressure ammo compared to what the US uses. As for the armor, uranium is a dense material just like tungsten. There is 0 advantage tungsten has as armor over uranium, and there's never been a case of higher cancer rates among crew. That's a lie and proven to be false in multiple studies. Also, the DU "cancer rates" are just media BS. It's less radioactive than getting an X-Ray. On top of that, Tungsten is just as toxic as DU when aerosolized.

@@chechenfeels Keep spreading the wrong information about radiation and DU. I swear, you say the word radioactive and people assume you'll die if you so much as look at the material. Any kind of heavy metal when aerosolized is gonna cause negative health effects. No one said warfighting was clean.

@@AdamantLightLP theres 👏a👏reason👏US👏 tank👏 are👏 forbidden 👏from👏 training 👏on👏 german👏 soil👏with👏DU👏rounds👏 u 👏dipshit