For anyone who's wondering, their last video together had their roles completely reversed. She was crying the whole time about everything they built coming to an official end and he was optimistic and excited to see where life would take him next. Last I checked, Oscar was doing fantastically, and she had been struggling as a single mother. That could be totally different at this point, though
I check in on them every now and then and my dislike for the woman went up astronomically. She's getting married to her best friend/nannies' ex-husband. Pretty sure he was the one she was cheating with. Oscar looks to be doing well he has a new GF and started doing real estate.
@@swagkura Yikes. Not surprising though. She gave off serious "I've met someone else" vibes this entire video. And to do that to not only her husband but her best friend? She truly cares about nobody but herself.
@@swagkuraLol good luck to her with that, considering that 92% of relationships spawned out of infidelity fail. It won’t be long before the taboo wears off and she’ll need another affair to satiate her craving for excitement and “tingles.”
She is a narcissist, possibly a sociopath, and highly manipulative. I am a therapist and have dealt with a LOT of women and men like this. He needs to RUN from this woman quickly. It is so sad they have 4 children.
This lady is nuts. He didn't want this to end. She obviously did but tried to push some of it on him. I'm so glad he figured out life was better without her.
@@dylantaaffe4195 I can't imagine how trapped he felt Not only is your financial income probably reliant on your family but having a family in general, so many families force a marriage to work when kids are involved, I can't imagine the pressure of your livelyhood reliant on that too
The way she stayed physically close to him and continued embracing him when she's the one breaking up with him makes it sooo much more manipulative. What the hell
Just looked into their current situation. I guess they stopped their family channel and started their own things. She's currently dating her former best friend's ex-husband. There's speculation that they were cheating before the divorce. Apparently, she's gotten a lot of hate, and Oscar just wants peace and for her to be okay since she is still the mother of his children. Edit: Looked at a tea video, she states she was dating the new guy in March. But he didn't file for divorce until April and it wasn't finalized until June. So .... yeah, messed up thing to do to someone you called your best friend.
This makes me think about all the amicable breakups ive had. My exes in those cases sat me down, explained their legitimate reasons for not continuing the relationship, and while hurt, i understood, and we agreed to respectfully go our separate ways. I can remember how upset they always were, because they knew how much it hurt me, and they cared deeply about me. It's just so strange watching this girl be so casual and happy as she tears this guys heart out again.
just take a look at her face and mannerisms and the way it all moves, you can see physical manifestations of her toxic personality before seeing it on display in the video. she probably thinks her shit smells like roses when it drops down the toilet but doesn't tell anyone and acts humble and/or self deprecates unless they are a poor victim like this guy. can't imagine the devastating divorce-rape that would occur if you were unfortunate enough to get reeled in by her facade of loving you that far
it's the 7 year itch ( & not the movie) iykyk also she's so odd " Tell them I didn't cheat, TELL THEM!" " Tell them we're in a good place, TELL THEM! she's scary
I feel this guy so much, as soon as he moves out he's gonna start to realize the amount of emotional trauma she put him through. I once had a girlfriend cheat on me when she litteraly had no reason to lie about it and she just said ''in my eyes, I did nothing wrong''. Still kept being the ''better person'', carrying both our loads until I broke up. She said multiple times she had no intention to ghost me, that she can't imagine going on her life without seeing me again, just to ghost me without explanation. Nothing was explained. Some people just don't care about your feelings, bruh.
She’s just a narcissist. Refers to Oscar like he’s her little pet. The Q&A was merely gaslighting damage limitation. Doesn’t wanna get cancelled. Truly awful woman. Sad to think 4 children are looking to her for moral advice.
For anyone still interested, their main couple channel is gone now (something she was far more emotional about than this breakup) and they both run their own separate channels… and on her own channel she’s also disabled comments on all of her videos funnily enough.
Update: she WAS cheating. Is now married to her best friend/kids nannys husband! Their baby is due soon. A LOT came out about this terrible woman. Reddit forum best place to read up.
100% she cheated. She just knows he doesn’t know the full story so she got him to say that she didn’t. Thinking of him being happier with someone else is a total cop out. That’s a reason that stuck in her head and allowed her to commit to the fact that they were going to have to break up because she cheated. And being mean to him for that phase was because she had cheated on him and couldn’t cope with her guilt.
It really feels like she cheated on him but he never got solid proof and she knows he can’t back up his suspicions. It really feels like she’s subtly rubbing his face in it.
@@Paul2.4T yes because getting arrested and possibly sent to prison or slapped with a restraining order for assaulting your ex is a great way to abandon your children....
My summary: She wanted more kids, he didn't. She cheated on him. She emotionally manipulated him to try and get him to break up with her first. Just the general demeanor of her in this vid is revolting.
thats the same conclusion i came to man, its super fucked up, i dont wanna really take sides here cause i think the fact they are sharing this super closeted info is scummy to begin with, but she is super fucked up
Thank you for sharing this, with all the viewers you have it will totally expose this woman for the narcissist she is. She really needs to unplug and reevaluate herself, this is disgusting, so sad there’s a child involved..
The way Oscar says "it is completely done" and she says "woah woah woah, not so fast" even though she's the one breaking up with him is so manipulative. Watching this makes me feel sick.
If I was that guy, I would’ve interrupted her while she was talking and grabbed her nose while saying “Got your nose bitch!” take her phone, run away and post it on RU-vid.
When she says, “Are you gonna cry?” with genuine joy into his visibly emotionally broken face I knew this was over a long time ago and he just didn’t know it
"Tell them I wasn't cheating" She 100% was cheating, and that's why she's already moved on and doesn't feel as hurt as he does. She's been messing around with someone already. True narcissist.
@@joohra_ I'm not using that word in the same way someone says "idiot." She's completely self-absorbed and doesn't care about his feelings, among other things.
I like how directly after he insinuates her cheating or showing unfaithful behaviour she starts talking about "how you weren't there for me.." Remember fellas if you cheat - it's your fault, if she cheats, it's also your fault. ☕
Bro I couldn’t even watch this because I just went through something like this I can guarantee you guys doing this entertains them ESPECIALLY if you stick around after. Your anger your sadness your jealousy of other people they’re now talking to the way they used to talk to you it is all fun for them and makes them feel better it is an ego boost. I promise you those lingering feelings will go away I just got out of a 2 year ordeal I felt like it was the end of the world 🤮. ITS NOT KIDS! Stick to yourself and your friends if they wanna leave do not beg nor ask them to stay because they will leave eventually!
Clearly she cheated on him, she tries so hard to protect her image here everytime he talks and even tells him to go sleep with someone. You don't tell someone you've had four kids with to go sleep with someone else unless you already have or want to. She's so manipulative.
@@Mercurio2435 no man not making a video would be more like avoiding ruining your image, making such video goes straight to the point she gets the whole scene
That brings up a really good point about people with narcissistic personality disorder. Even in situations like this where it seems obvious to a Nuro typical person that not posting the video would have been the wiser choice to protect her image. Because she is so narcissistic that she thinks she really is better than everyone else she thinks that she can pull it off and manipulate the audience and anyone who sees the video. That’s pretty much exactly why Charlie said he felt like he was getting broken up with. Cause she’s using the same manipulation strategies that she has in her abusive relationship with the viewers. I think she really believes that she could make a video like this and still come out on top
I mean there are different ways to have relationships. Having kids doesn't mean you can't have an open relationship. She comes across poorly, but to say that nobody ever does [thing] unless they're a certain kind of person isn't fair. Everyone is different. There are people who genuinely enjoy seeing their partners enjoy being with others. Monogamy doesn't work for everyone.
They were passive aggressive a lot in a recent vlog, and so many people were commenting saying how great they get along and admire their friendship now. lol
They both sound like they're talking with the school principal here. Have the goddamn fight, say what you feel, scream at each other, get it off your chest ffs and maybe you can fix your shit. This new-age stuff of pretending to be amicable and passive doesn't work.
It just hurts to watch the video. She's literally just smiling and joking about whilst Oscar looks like he's just witnessed his entire world fall apart. Hope that he's doing alright.
I will never understand it when people choose to have a child together, but not do everything in their power to stay together for that child and keep the family dynamic together. The way some people just casually toss away the other parent of their child and not even think about the consequences of that choice and how it affects the kid, just blows me away.
ngl going threw some trauma from similar past a relationship, being made too feel like the most horrible person even for being upset and the one at fault even tho you did nothing but try your hardest for that person. I feel vindicated after this video, seeing an eerily similar dynamic.
Apparently he was actually abusing her and there’s a ton more to the story that people are just now finding out, he like admitted to throwing things and other stuff
@@Peepee4brain a lot can happen in a seven year relationship. I wouldn't call throwing something abuse unless it's at your partner especially when you don't know what the other person did to cause that behavior. Infact throwing or even punching something (not your spouse) is a hell of a lot better way to take out your frustration than hitting your spouse or bottling it up and eventually blowing your brains out. No just from this video the mind games she's playing with him by acting like he's the reason for all her insecurities is not good enough and hates him yet tries to hug up to him every 5 seconds is a far more damaging to someones psyche than your partner getting mad and throwing an inanimate object at a wall.
@@Peepee4brain I know nothing about this guy so maybe he's crazy though given how this chick seems to have zero issue putting on blast publicly, I'd think that if abuse was a factor she would have brought it up in the video. Though again, I don't know them so I could be wrong but judging but this video she certainly seems like the nasty one in that couple.
Bruh the way she straight up orders him to clarify things for the audience so she's never painted in a bad light..always makes my soul cringe seeing controlling/manipulative people like her with family vlog channels
Having had an ex try to pull the "Start being cold, distant and a little dismissive in the hopes of pushing me to be the one to break it off" thing, it's way more hurtful than just being told things aren't working. It's like seeing a part of your life, a person you trust and care for, change and you start to worry there's something you did, or they need some sort of help they don't seem to be able to find in you. The really sad thing is that same ex tried to use me, multiple times, since then when she was herself feeling low, until I had to outright tell her I had completely lost interest in her well being and gained nothing in rekindling any sort of friendship.
She seems like a narcissist. I doubt she’ll ever love anyone, genuinely. She strikes me as the “ I need to rehome my senior dog cus it’s not fluffy anymore” type.
@@JukemDrawles87 thats because she didn't really like him that much from the beginning. Once they blew up and got famous she saw a way out cause if she depended on him financially trust me her ass would've stayed another 7 years.
@@chuusenberg519 no emotional cheating is a thing. if you think romantically of someone while being in a relationship then you are cheating. if you flirt with other people while dating someone thats cheating. i can tell you let you significant other cheat on you considering you think thats the only way someone can cheat lmao
@@chuusenberg519 no you don't. kissing, cuddling etc aren't sex but can still be cheating. Everyone knows that. And that's not even getting into emotional cheating.
Her reason for breaking up, the fact she asked him to let everyone know it wasn't because she cheated and that she was treating him like shit for a few months before the actual split makes me think she was in fact cheating
Totally, the moment she asked him to clarify that she wasn't cheating, I began thinking that she probably was and she just didn't want their audience to know so she could look like an angel. Because fr, who asks someone to say they're not cheating when they truly aren't.
And giving him advice on how to pick up women?? As a fellow woman this is a huge red flag. She wants him with another girl so bad because she's already found another guy to replace him with, I guarantee it.
I love that you found the Q/A because seeing her say in the first video "Like right person wrong time." then seeing the hope in his eyes just for her to crush it as a joke with "Like were for sure done so don't get your hopes up." Was brutal. Seeing the Q/A end with Oscar having that same energy but actually mean it.
This should be used to teach people why you should stay away from toxic and manipulative people. I hope this guy finds someone who actually deserves him. This is why self worth is important
not trying to defend her or something, but do we know that it's an actual break-up? i dont know much about the channel but this could also be one of those "breakup-drama for views" videos, where it is revealed that everything's fine after 2 weeks.
RU-vid couples Breaking up with each other is not a crime, buddy. They all post "break up" videos. Nothing toxic or manipulative about it. It's just mega cringe.
I used to watch OKBaby and it made me sad when this happened. I feel so bad for Oscar, I am glad he found someone now who hopefully treats him much better.
2:27 "can you please verify that i wasnt cheating" "you did a lot of things that bothered me. i wouldnt consider them full-blown cheating" he went to bring up something and she immediately shut him down. yeah she definitely went behind his back i feel bad for the guy and hope he finds someone who clearly isnt manipulative like she is
I feel sorry for Oscar. If he finds someone who loves him, is good to him, and kind and loving to his children, I hope that his ex-girlfriend Kyra will not try to manipulate his relationship - especially if he moves forward ahead of her.
Oh yes, that sounded a whole lot like "you didn't engage in intercourse with another person but you did things that broke the boundaries of our relationship" - and the fact that she pressures him to get a lap dance and to hook up with other women makes it seem like she's done things and wants him to do things too so they'll be on a level playing field
It's so disgusting how she's trying to look like a good person by looking at him and thinking "he'd be happier with someone else", as if she's doing this for his good.
@@Peepee4brain Where did you find this and who said it? If it was by her or any of her friends it's obviously a lie. Their body languages do not show this as being likely. If she was abused she wouldn't so flagrantly demean him on camera. Don't believe everything told to you, but rather look at what seems to be true.
@@DaReaperZ you clearly don't know the psychology of an abuse victim. They do hold a lot of trauma and resentment that is oftentimes externalized in different ways that are uncomfortable for the person and the people around them. Being annoying is in my opinion least harmful.
Bro as soon as the video started I couldn’t bare but skip through it cause damn that beginning already is so heart wrenching and she does deserve him 😢
It's because she clearly lacks compassion and common sense. All about that RU-vid dough, fuck having a healthy relationship with the father of your children.
It's literally not the worst by far. Unlike some other videos, here nobody else was hurt or was at risk of being hurt during the production of this video.
@@OOFERZ2233 it's one of the common excuses in movies and TV shows where the woman cheats, she usually says " I cheated because you weren't around and I felt lonely"
Holy crap when she said "It takes two" right after blowing off everything he had to say, belittling his thoughts and emotions in the process, and then blaming it on her mental health and how he wasn't there for her. Sounds like she definitely cheated or got caught trying as well. People who prey on the support of others are the worst, my heart goes out to you brother
Her virtue signaling was beyond human standard that it reeks badly in front of camera. We all know when woomen cheats it's on emotional level and already planned long time ago. Stay alert brothers
She’s pissing me off because she can say all this mean shit to him and about him but the second he opens his mouth and says anything she jumps in and immediately offended. She’s clearly the reason it didn’t work out
She should’ve been super happy, she’s not ugly or anything but he’s super hot and she is one of those faces that nobody would even see in a crowd. She cheated on him pretty clearly. I bet there’s a lot of sabotage in his future relationships from this woman. He needs to get away from the situation and her she seems toxic
@@mick9561 nah, that's all HE could find out about. But she damn sure physically cheated, and is already seeing someone else. She just broke up with him, so she can do it openly.
@andrew yani doesn't matter who's at fault, it is what it is. This isn't 4th grade. They have kids together. There is the truth, and their future, period.
OMG YOU DONT KNOW THESE PEOPLE. Dont speak on peoples lives without any context. And i personally feel its the opposite (shocking right) but whyy would anyone care really? stop blowing the situation out of proportion.
The literal best thing she did for him was leave him, minus the filming of it. That being said, she is in another league when it comes to being a cruel and remorseless manipulator.
People like this infuriate me. She has no outward emotions for anyone but herself. A true narcissist. Not the kind you randomly label people you don't like, either. This woman is showing symptoms left and right.
Truly a textbook narcissist, just the way she was picking at her nails at the start showing no interest in listening to him speak. She is using the whole video to make herself faultless in the breakup. Keeps trying to make out he has anger issues when she would be hell to live with, his blow ups are probably in proportion to her bad behaviour. Hope he actually leaves and gets custody of the kids, but seeing as they’re just RU-vid revenue to her, she likely wouldn’t give them up without a fight.
I like how she openly admitted to being an asshole to him over an extended period of time after a SEVEN YEAR marriage to try and get him to be the one to end it instead of her, despite knowing that she is the initiator.
@@dantederi5062 Utah does not recognize common-law marriage. Rather, the state has something know as Judicial Recognition of a Relationship as a Marriage, where you can ask the court to recognize your relationship as a marriage even though you never had a marriage ceremony. If the court approves, the partners will be considered to have been married since the following requirements have been met. The person asking for the relationship to be recognized as a marriage (the petitioner) should be ready to show the court that the marriage comes from an agreement between partners who: - are of legal age and capable of giving consent - are legally capable of entering a solemnized marriage (You can't marry someone you are closely related to - that would prevent you from legally marrying.) - have lived together - treat each other as though they are married and - present themselves to the public so that other people believe they are married. There are time limits to asking for the relationship to be recognized. Paperwork must be filed: - during the relationship, or - within one year after the relationship ends (one or both partners have died or the partners have separated). Either partner may file the paperwork. A third party, such as next of kin, may also file.
Ive had 'friends' who clearly didnt like talking to me or hanging around me but would try so hard to keep the friend status. This looks like that but 10x worse😑
red flags: 1. she tells him to tell the camera what she wants him to say and to take her side 2. she tells him just how happy she is to be without him 3. she still wants to touch him though even though he pushes her away 4. when he says they're "DONE done" she gets defensive and backpedals 5. smiling the entire time while he looks very upset and uncomfortable 6. talking about having a 5th child and kind of insinuating she wants one with him or at the very least wants him to be jealous if that 5th child is with someone else (and encourages him not to get one because SHE wants more kids, not because THEY want more kids) 7. "it's official", Her: "i mean you never know (: " 8. the only time she's not smiling is when he says he's completely 100% done poor guy. i feel sorry for whoever the next shmuck is too
Don’t forget she talked him into a vasectomy only months ago, so she took away his ability to have anymore and THEN she dangles it over his head smugly that.. ooh, what if I have another?
I think she wants to have her cake and eat it too. Like go date other guys but he can still be a dad looking after the kids at home and be waiting for her when she realises that dating around isn't very fun and wants him to welcome her back with open arms.
I legitimately could not finish watching this thing. I got to the part where he said "For about a month, you were just... so mean, like bordering cruel." and she tried to explain it away as 'subconsciously I was pushing you away.' In the next sentence she basically admits that she was trying to get him to break up with her, so it wouldn't be "her fault". That's literally all you need to hear. She's done with him, but she doesn't want to be viewed as a callous bitch that just tosses aside someone who cares for them a lot because she got bored. She wanted to be dumped so she could paint herself as a victim and when that didn't work, she took the next best thing. A recorded "mutual break-up" where she basically gaslights him into absolving her of all blame.
This is the happy ending. The bad ending is him hanging himself because this woman absolutely destroyed him. There are several reasons why male suicide is head and shoulders above female suicide... this kind of women is one of them.
She perfectly encapsulates everything I despise about the growing numbers of shameless, manipulative, lack of empathy people finding a voice and supporters on the internet
This is seriously the best thing that ever happened to this guy, no need to feel sorry for him. He's soon going to be the happiest guy on the planet when he finds out other women mostly aren't evil and twisted. I am so stoked for him.
Most people like that never let their partner go or at least have a long on-and-off relationship. So her breaking up is the best thing that could happen to him. Let’s pray he sees it like this and doesn’t let himself get lured back in.