The worst defense of High Guardian Spice 

I remember that being a hot topic when the whole drama came out. The point of crunchyroll's program was to help out under played animators and we ended up getting this. And to deflect criticism someone from the studio claimed they only had $250,000. Which pissed everyone off more. Regardless I feel like if you watch something like the original Gundam you can see how bad animation isn't the end all.

are you fucking for real rn lmaoo. why didnt you research this (extremely basic, well known fact) before making this video. why are you even talking about animations budgets if you dont know anything.

Could you disect the new she ra

You’re dumb for not knowing and i don’t like this show

When the person said trans in their comment they already lost because use that as a defense means nothing if you have a show that is bad we don’t comment on your pronouns or sex we comment on your shows and your storytelling some of our point of view is as a viewer the good once Judge it fairly this cartoon could have competing with rwby and little witch academy and welcome to demon school iruma all three school theme mine, also they show was trying to be multiple things a cartoon for kids or teenagers or adults instead of being one thing

*insert morphing gundam face here*

Thank you for explaining that. The only 80s show I've ever really been invested in was TMNT, and I could never figure why the turtles always seemed to be switching places and swapping weapons. Now I know.

Cel Always has been and still is a better use of animation.

@@frankielovejoy9928 A cel is like a traditional drawing. If you screw up, you have to start over. This is the reason digital inking was invented.

Digital animation is just an excuse to be lazy. Its why animation since 2010s have been utter trash. Mid 2000s cartoons using flash was only the beginning of decline of animation quality

When I think of someone that focuses on just the positives, I think of Yes-Men, people that will most likely just inflate the ego and not the quality

They call it toxic positivity for a reason. People and their efforts won't be able to improve if they reject any and all criticism. It's like working with metal. If you want it to be useful, you have to melt it down, pound and cut it into shape, getting rid of all the useless junk. Otherwise, all you'll have is a big heavy rock.

@@Predator20357 don't forget that most Yes-Men are delusional, thinking if they keep saying "yes" to the narrative, it'll also help them more than critical thinking.

You can be surprised how much you learn by reviewing bad stuff.

One of the first things they teach you when learning to animate is to take criticism lightheartedly. It's all to improve your work. Feedback is an insane tool, and getting angry over people pointing out your mistakes only hinders you ability to improve.

🤣

LOL TRUE

"That'll be 607 $ , look at the positive the processing fee in only 7.01$ so the consultation was under 600$"

Good one

I imagined those last two lines in Heavy’s and Medic’s voice for some reason

lol

All that energy spent over a cartoon he never watched. White knights are too funny

That's because there's little good things about HGS

Yeah like that's the weirdest part to me. If you watch and somehow unironically enjoy it and want to defend it then sure, that makes some level of sense I guess no matter how bad the show is. But defending a bad show you've never even seen makes zero sense. Like why?

Jim Light is some rabid fan's (or salty showrunner's) alt account and you can not convince me otherwise.

@@amandap7733 Lmao prolly but why would they say they've never seen it? Alt or not, it makes no sense to say that because it makes them look more stupid than if they just say they enjoyed the show.

I have never watch High Guardian Spice I mostly watch videos about it and it kinda helped me with my script writing.

@@Kelly-pr8lz I feel that. I watch it to help me with my writing too. There’s so much you can learn not-to-do

No. Saying someone is transphobic for expecting you to like something just because it was made by a trans person isn't transphobic, in the same way that YOU saying you *don't* like it isn't transphobic. You're misappropriating the term in the exact same way they are by saying that, and that is equally unhelpful. Stick to calling a take like that what it real is: plain ol' stupid.

@@reallyrll very hard disagree and ill tell you why: its saying that since person of X group made it (trans, in this case), everyone MUST support it to show approval. Its Transphobic in the sense that it clearly outlines a sense of "needing to support", or in otherwords displays inferiority. If someone belonging to X group plays a major factor, good or bad, that displays biases and hatreds. The fact that the writer is trans should have 0 relevancy to the show, as the detail doesnt change a single thing about it. This person is taking a stance of "since it was made by a trans person, not liking it is to be againsy trans in general" and shows their own view of tbe trans community needing constant protection. Acceotance, equality, and respect is earned when such details dont exist nor affect the base level. Happening ti look inti the show and going "oh, hes trans. Neat" is how it should be treated. Nit "oh, hes trans, therefore I must love/hate this show".

Got to love the bigotry of low expectations

@@reallyrll to understand what I meant to say, read the best bilbo's comment

I guarantee the person who wrote those asinine comments was a cis person. Cishets always try to speak for groups they don't belong to, but only end up speaking OVER them instead.

That man goes hard on this show and I'm all for it

Aye, LobsterHero is a chad and will always be one in my heart

LobsterHero was too intense for me. If anyone is attacking the creators of this show rather than the show itself, it’s him. GaurdianHQ is more chill so I just stay here

JAAX! :D

My favorite crustacean lol

Gets worse when they start calling the critics transphobic, bigots, and woman haters. As if those have anything to do with saying the story is bad.

Yeah, I get the feeling those people don't really care about the show at all and just want to call people out online about something.

@@booleah6357 or they are so delusional that they think high gardian spice is a good show when in reality it's a shitty one.

@@sportsdude890 that's pretty delusional considering even the creators admit it was bad.

@@booleah6357 wow I didn't even know that well I guess you can rule out my comment.

yeah i was gonna say this, people who work on anime do not get paid enough

How do you even get started in animating?

@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 Get an animation degree and send your resume and portfolio to animation studios, from what I've heard.

@@SunnysFilms Well...how am I supposted to get an animation degree. There aren't many english animation schools, colleges, universities in montreal you know.

@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 Well, I had no idea you are in Montreal, since nothing about your original comment suggested as much. That said, I would search online for a correspondence school. I've heard of people taking animation courses online. Since you're in Quebec, I don't know how accessible those are, but I would think it would be worth the research if this is what you really want to do.

I hate to be that person, but why do shows like HGS and She ra (since he mentioned it) attract such toxic people?

@@Saltedroastedcaramel 🤷 Usually the younger the fanbase Is, the worst It gets

@@elenacottica386 Unfortunately, that's not always the case. People in their 20s can be toxic too.

@@Saltedroastedcaramel oh I know, I'm just talking about what usually happens

That's the dumbest thing I've heard since arguments about Saitama vs Goku.

Thank you. Everyone forgets this, but the trailer talked up how amazing the animation was going to be. And, honestly, it could have been if the character designs had been simplified instead of attempting this half-assed anime look.

nononon ur wrong, it doesnt get the bad critique it deserves

"We're trying things that people have forgotten to do."

@@rinyukiohara8178 hey yeah speaking of which what are those things that they are referring to anyway? I don’t remember any particularly innovative or old school animation techniques? Or even from a story perspective.

It's most probably about their own political ideology (or just their general ideology) I pressume

It happens a lot more than you think

@@lordtickledck7012 Tribal Mentality basically “Someone doesn’t like someone from my “side”, so I must defend them no matter what”

Those are the same type of people that write articles about why every show and movie is sexist or racist or transphobic

"Allies" be like that more often than not, And just as often they tend to have some very nasty skeleton's hidden in their closets that makes them worse than what they accuse others of being to those very same people they claim to protect and others.

bless them

I'm just reminded that High Guardian Spice was announced in 2018 & aired October 2021. That's at most 1095 days...nearly double the time Kemono Friends S1 production took, and Kemono Friends S1 was made for free lmao.

I can think of others that had little to no budget, but are excellent. Monty Oum's Haloid and Dead Fantasy, also Makoto Shinkai's Voices of a Distant Star.

You can still cleanly see and feel Kemono Friend was made with little budget, unmoving wheels and stiff camera and all but in the same time , stuff like all those little movement of the characters, the background, the actually not bad plot, the world building, the real life animal section Tells you that the studio actually care about their works and worked hard for it All done when the production company gave up on this franchise and provided the staff with little budget and support

@@askovtk4834 ikr? It's like the polar opposite of HGS. Money can get you a lot of stuff, but it can't buy people their passion. If they don't love the work, then they won't make a good one.

It actively causes resentment towards trans people to use them as a shield to deflect criticism. It reduces the trust in them. If people think that having trans characters or being a trans writer makes your work immune to criticism and you thus don't have to try at all, then people are going to be mistrustful of future works by trans people featuring trans people, worrying that the identity will be used as a shield to allow the show to be terrible.

It's ironically more transphobic to assume one would hate someone because they are trans

And of Course the Problem with the Matrix being was it was created by said people before they were Trans...

@@Quandry1 yeah i know :(

I was going to point out the matrix until I read the next sentence lol

I could understand someone saying that the positives should be acknowledged if people only point out the negatives, but to say we should *ignore* the negatives is not a good argument.

i love the removal of the word “the” in these memes why am i sharing this opinion

human like food. food taste bad. ignore bad food. eat good food.

Pokemon fans in a nutshell.

So did he do an interview or where did you hear these?

thats not a roast, that is straight up arsen

@@mrosskne Quotes from the comment thread that is included in the video. It's called "More errors in high guardian spice episode 1."

Ah yes, the average Twitter user

@@siredionysus Twitter Users after levelling up be like

Your mother has a hatred towards the starving children in Africa confirmed

HGS has episode by episode a larger budget than one punch man… really makes you think

I could honestly just use my notes app & try making a story that could make more sense than HGS. Remember people, money does *not* buy skill and ability to make a good series.

@@The_Misanthropic_Magpie at least they don't go way off-model for whole scenes or episodes at a time like Steven Universe.

@@grantmortensonva no the characters just teleport and clip through all their surroundings every 5 seconds

@@The_Misanthropic_Magpie yeah true

Yeah it do be like that sometimes. Was called homophobic for disliking a thing with a gay character even though the gay character wasn’t my problem with it.

I like the way you phrase it. "Hating is an art." Very nice, and completely accurate. You can't hate something if you don't also like something that reminds you of what you hate. After all, the opposite of love is not hate, but apathy.

@@Darkgun231 Right, hate is just the other other side of the same coin known as love.

Jesus Christ Himself says, in the Book of Revelation, that He rebukes those who He loves. Love entails a desire to nurture and protect, and what can be done when the greatest enemy and detractor of who you love is themselves? Act in a very """unloving""" way, of course. People only will focus only on your positives if they don't care to see you overcome, grow and improve.

Beautifully worded, totally agree!

I think the issue that people have with trans writers is their need to push an ideology… both in the themes of the show and those they hire to create the show. When you’re picking from select groups that share ideologies you are just making it difficult to find talent. When you create a show that only has issues that relate to trans people you are alienating 90% of your possible audience that don’t relate to the message and themes of the anime. You can have LGBT characters and still have a great show, arcane is a great example of this… however they didn’t focus and revolve the plot around that aspect and pushed it to the side as secondary theme that isn’t prominent but still important.

Same, I’ve been writing my own series for years and I’ve learned SO much about writing and storytelling.

Same here! The first comic I ever made (aka the first edition of one of my stories) was utter garbage, but I learned an undeniably huge amount from it. Failure is one of the (if not, the) best teachers, and let’s just say that I’ve learned a lot over the years. Failing’s just part of the process; you take what you learn from one story and apply that knowledge going forward to tell better stories

Same! Alot of people say to just "focus on the positives" but if you don't know what your failings are what and most importantly HOW will you improve? I never thought about tone or magic systems (which is a big thing) until finding Dave's channel. I've learned so much from HGS deconstructions (or just deconstructions in general) than any "things you SHOULD do" or "tips for writing" ever has.

I’m writing my own series too that’s on Wattpad and I could do a much better job than what this ’High Guardian Spice’ crap did. What’s really sad is that I’m not a professional writer yet I can write better than whatever this “show” is.

Doesn't help that the show ITSELF has some of the worst LGBT+ representation known to mankind. Seriously, name ONE thing that has worse representation that isn't Boku No Pico.

EXACTLY!

Hell yeah, god bless Tomino.

A lot of that was genuine production problems blindsiding them, not simply the animation process of the 70s being very easy to have visible errors with. Yoshikazu had a pleurisy mid-production and thus was long-term hospitalized, but he was animation director- a critical role to suddenly lose. He's explained in interviews how painful it was to watch the show from his hospital bed every week because he could see every error and questionable composition he would have avoided under his guidance. Itano also worked himself to collapsing multiple times- as he was kinda wont to do given his extreme attention to details that they frankly didn't have the luxury to indulge in at the time. Sunrise was genuinely a poor company back then and every project under them was done on the extra cheap with skeleton crews- so replacement staff and extra hands were just not going to happen. And losing their sponsors halfway through, only getting a late capital infusion thanks to Bandai is well known. So it's not like the original 1979 Mobile Suit Gundam was wonky in a lot of places due to a lack of skill or care

@@gtf234 this whole first section of the video is about budget

@@angellara7040 More about how Raye had way more money to spend. The point on Gundam was everybody was not a stranger to working on the cheap as it was normal for Sunrise and none of these people were amateurs by 1979- that context is not the same as suddenly losing all their sponsorship funding, which is another danger Raye never had to deal with or worry about. In contrast, by Raye's own accounts, he had no such problems like what the Gundam team had, and what difficulties he did have were by his own making- not having to make do with little in the middle of crisis. Despite what the one the video is arguing with is claiming- errors from outsourced animation these days is less from technical or mechanical mistakes and more from bad storyboards and not understanding how important they are. From what we have seen in some screenshots- their boards were trash and treating them like merely rough sketches. Those Korean studios are not paid to correct errors in the storyboards, they animate exactly as they are provided. It's not their job to keep track of or question object and design continuity, or to try to fix wonky perspective. Raye's argument about not having the money for reshoots is actually confessing his end didn't prepare it right the first time. Like all the times Sage's books or buttons disappear from scene to scene in just the first episode alone- they had to be missing from the boards and its not the animation studio's job to keep track of it. Meanwhile look at the boards of One Punch Man and it's like night and day in how meticulously detailed they are.

Could never have said it better, it may be with good intention, but it's detrimental towards progress

I think it's far crueler to rip the person apart and tell them they're so bad that they should give up (which I've seen a lot of people say about Raye). Most of these videos aren't criticism, they're just straight up bullying. If your criticism has no positives and you just keep going on and on and on about how terrible a person's work is, what exactly are you hoping to accomplish? The show has been made. It's not going to change. At least if someone gets some encouragement that would help them move forward but most people online only care about tearing things apart because hating something is supposedly more fun than liking something

@@snowpanther7076 there’s a difference between criticism (with the intention that someone can learn from) vs negativity that stems from some sort of malice. I get it would be a downer to hear the same points over and over but you can usually tell the difference. I, personally at least, can stand by the former and will never accept the latter. If there’s at the *very* least one thing anyone can praise, it’s the fact that there was an effort or at least an attempt. A lot of critics i’ve seen have conceded that the show had potential too (and perhaps, this is why some have the views they do). In any case, as an artist, when you put yourself out there you accept that there will be all sorts of views upon your efforts: - if you seek those opinions or critiques…then look for those that would help you reach further heights (letting you have a *general* idea of your strengths and weaknesses) and push on in spite of those who would, as you say, would have you torn down - if you do not? well, push on and express yourself regardless. Whatever people may say, this is the main drive of many an art form. Van Gogh’s art was unappreciated in his time and while they saw only saw value to the public well after his time, I like to believe they always had value the moment he laid brush to canvas tl;dr - not all criticism is bad, if you’re looking for some, avoid the trolls. Art is art, so just do your thang either way, right? :)

@@Killer_KT I never said criticism is bad. I said that these videos aren't criticism because that's not what they are and that's not the purpose they serve. They just use the word criticism to make themselves look morally superior. I've watched other videos and while some did say that there was potential, most said that there was nothing redeemable about it. That's not criticism. I've seen a few people say they liked the show and were attacked because of it. It's a mediocre show. It's really not as bad as people claim it to be. I've seen far, far worse. I guess I'm just getting tired of the constant negativity. I didn't work on that show but even I feel bad for Raye sometimes. And it's easy to say to do your thing when you're not the one on the receiving end of these kind of 'critiques'.

@@snowpanther7076 Well, I haven’t received commentary on the scale that this show has, I’ll give you that but I’ve enough of a significant fair share to speak from experience. I didn’t make assumptions on what you said of criticism, my response was to what is criticism vs ‘ripping someone apart’. What this video and what the show is could be up for debate, I haven’t watched his other videos on this show and mainly paid attention to his back and forth with the person in the comments. Also, while I don’t subscribe to the ‘there’s worse’ argument (at the very least unless it’s not an apples vs oranges type discussion), I get what you mean. Honestly though, the internet’s always going to have those sorts of voices running rampant hence why I figure, do your own thing, eh? I’m not a fan of toxicity in any form, best to try and mitigate or fight it in whatever or however way you can - cherish those who have your back vs those who talk behind it, in the words of a friend.

So this is where it started

@@guardianHQ It actually started from someone else. I just replied to their comment.

This person thinks their favorite show is made by God himself.

are you on Android?

@@guardianHQ Yes. Restarting the app fixed it.

I thought that was intentional as the joke lol

This really _does_ prove the guy's point though. Had we only focused on the positives of the video (except we were watching HGS without audio, soooo...), there never would have been a chance for us to all improve by learning about this stupid quirk of how YT works on Andr-BZZT- RU-vid HAS A PERFECTLY FUNCTIONAL MOBILE APP WITH NO BUGS. A MILLION STARS OUT OF FIVE. NOT ONCE HAS SUSAN EVER USED HER PLATFORM TO ACT LIKE A FASCIST.

@@guardianHQ You wanna know another way to destroy that whole argument about low budget. Just look at RU-vid there are billion talented animators on here and they usually do everything by themselves. Also I want to say there are still a ton of great Western animated series out there like invincible castlevania, Primal, rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles and monkie kid

They would feel much less stronger/untouchable if people didn't assume a person won an argument when the other people stops replying. In reality, a person might not continue to argue with someone like this because they know that his stance is so poorly founded that it cannot be easily debased (the juice isn't worth the squeeze), or they just understand that the person they're arguing against is resorting to gish-galloping and it would just be a waste of time and energy to try to discredit a manipulator.

It's a technique called the Gish Gallop, where they try to overwhelm you with a barrage of bullshit arguments, while refusing to ever concede even a single point, constantly attacking your character to rile you up, and simply changing the subject if you successfully refute them on anything. It's an extremely popular debating strategy among dishonest pseudo-intellectual con artists.

White knight on copium, gotta love the internet

I feel there's no defending this show, but people are allowed to enjoy it, it's not terrible to look at to me, characters could be fun to draw.

@@pumkin610 true, I really like the base concept and I think there’s a lot of untapped potential :o

Can I ask. How do you even learn to write good stories, characters and world building?

@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 well, paying attention is a good start, that helps. Also developing a certain thing that you should have learned by yourself in High School: Critical Thinking.

@@LordofSadFac no. I'm serious. I really want to know what to do right. I already helped on creating a comic with someone else. It's called Bamoon Circuit.

@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 oh, my bad, its actually hard to tell when someones being sarcastic, specially considering the video here. Anyway, im no writter myself, but if i had to guess what someone needs in order to make a good history its: Experience, Creativity and Inspiration. With experience i mean more about personal experience than anything, as now adays people make up things when they talk about something they don't understand(take the concept of Chain of Command in any recent Star Trek show, they have NO respect for their superiors and they are never punished for it). Basing stories on things that you learn, investigate and live by yourself leads to a sense of realism. Creativity is more aligned to the two ideas im basing this up, cause you need to both know stuff and have a motivation in order to come up with ideas for your story, cause you can't experience yourself flight, magic or exploration of space itself, but you can use concepts like actual mythologies, science and story for such things. You most be able to not just make up concepts and ideas, but also make them make sense in its setting, otherwise they may come up as generic or confusing. And Inspiration requires you to care about what you're doing and to try to express it to others. What you write must be something you care about and would like others to experience too, otherwise it may come up as generic if not confusing(take High Guardian Spice as a good example of a uninspired show trying to fill some check boxes more than tell an story).

@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 You can use skillshsre courses and grammarly to have better writing for comic books but try to also study comic bubbling, color theory, and other important art details to have a greater understanding for writing. Study comic books that have success and comics that flopped you can write a list of what they did right, wrong, and how they learn from their mistakes or what they continue that's bad. Always ask for help and have a healthy team you can communicate with for making a comic and better writing.

It's a lot faster to throw a haymaker than to describe the motions taken to someone and comment on the form of said haymaker for efficiency.

It's wild to me, I dislike the show as much as the next one (except for Squid boy), but this is insane. I guess bad shows are as memorable as good ones huh

It's funny because I like the design and the art choices. But it doesn't save the show...

Well I guess that means you hate trans people /j

For me, like HQ, it's the writing. I watched Steven Universe and enjoyed it and that had some interesting errors artistically(*Cough cough* The hair unintentionally becoming bigger than the heads at points or the characters magically becoming short despite being tall the rest of the show *cough cough*). I can watch a show with bad animation and/or strange art errors if the story captures me enough.

i mean i kinda like the character design but thats probably because i cant draw

I’m sort 50/50 with my opinions on this show I like sage’s design however everything else just looks like basic store assests

theres so much media with lower budgets then this mess that embaresses it straight up

Honestly the whole "control your audience" thing reminds me of my abusive mom & abusive parents in general.

It was Android, yeah.

YT android phone app.

Sounds like it's just android users then :/

Ok

Oh thank god i thought my phone broke

the worse part is that it wasn't like this was announced in a year and realized after another year, they showed off a tender trailer (or concept thingy...whatever it was called) and YEARS passed by before we ever got an actual trailer that this was coming out soon. Yet what we're they doing after all that time??? especially with the animation like huh...

and yes I know that animation is a tedious and long going art progress but my God, not even HGS shows that they did what they could with what little budget they had or "time constraints" when again, what were they doing with all those years??? ugh.

That’s one thing that confused me about this show. How can you not have anything written for a concept you made YEARS ago? Most people I know tend to have a basic plotline written on the same day they get a story idea!

@@AeridisArt I honestly can't comprehend how not the SINGLE braincell in his brain told him to think of something other than just creating the concept; like your characters aren't even CHARACTERS, how u automatically made everyone hate your MAIN characters unintentionally btw, like the amount of questions that ppl have that are NEVER answered can't be justified by the "budget". I guess all those rejections didn't open his eyes until the show immediately flopped so hard it can't even recover.

@@truegodofdestruction They quite literally fall into every archetype you can apply to them... well narratively at least. You can tell where the inspirations came from, but they didn't really go past that.

So, I have an extremely blatant self insert character. That's just what he was made to be, an all powerful being that's comparable to a god. However, even though that's what he was and still is, I make the characters around him think he's childish, a kind of hobo. One of my inspirations for this direction is One Punch Man, because my philosophy towards my self insert changed into my creative drive and shifted to a metaphor for my own creative writings. A self insert can be childish and overpowered, to a point where it's ridiculous to give them any respect. To a point, the character is also not interesting in design, one of his defining features is a cloak with a universe inside of it, but people mistake it for a print, I also make it a point that he's wearing black Pajamas. He may stand taller than most, he may be more powerful, but most characters I've written barely trust his words because he doesn't really do much that can make others consider him to be anything of note. He's dissapeared faster than expected a few times, but he lost a fight to someone that can be considered below him because of fair play. Why am I mentioning all of this? What's the point? I put more care and thought into a self indulgence character than Raye even put into a project he had for relatively the same amount of time. Of course my Character is something I put time and effort into, in fact I only think that's only natural. He used to be a self insert RP character, one to be better than others, but he was ultimately just boring. I kept him around because I loved the character and even had unwritten stuff I wanted to do with him. In Highschool I started thinking about Infinite, what that means to me. It was also in that time I gave him the infinite, a real background as to why he was powerful, but also leaving out qualities to myself because I myself still don't know why. I know how he got there, but not why he is, or why he fully became this way. Y'know I think having unexplained elements are ok as long as they're not actually important to the ideas presented or canon they're in. My character's powers aren't explained as to how he fully and properly got them, I even barred myself from explaining that because the idea behind him is that this power he has is more a curse than a blessing. One Punch Man. If you can practically do all you want, then what satisfaction do you get from it? With HGS, this mans had more time to develop a philosophy with his creation, he had even made a thesis using it in college by his own report (at least that's what I recall). So here's a question, what did he use of his work? Did he use creative philosophy behind HGS? Did he explain the story of HGS? How did he get HGS there, but also not have properly set story? If the project means a lot to you, you should definitely have something right? I mean, I had time to focus on my character and properly get him set where I can realistically appreciate his existence to me where he's not a flat self indulgence character, but a character that I can see others liking to an extent because he's not flatly the good guy, he's just his own philosophy. With HGS, I just see that they're flatly the good guys, and the philosophy underneath is just how the creators feel about things without wanting critiques to them. To me that writing isn't thought out or constructed in a manner to last, even Romeo and Juliet have glaring issues, but even then it's a long standing love story for a reason. It's not perfection, frankly the whole situation is a bit whack, but we all know the story for a good reason, the story is behind the philosophy that a long standing feud can hurt those you love more than it hurts those you hate. It has a core philosophy that can stand the test of time because it's a testament to human nature and can be interpreted throughout time with nearly the same same philosophy, even in garden gnome movie. My point is, what is this show's identity? What does it want to be? You don't need to get deep into the human mind just for your philosophy just enough to have an identity, and it's hard to pin it down, even though he used it in a college thesis. Sorry about the ramble, have a good day.

@@alexandrews6256 I've heard many mixed things about self insert characters in which Raye made a VERY BAD example of self insert characters but to me, majority of my characters are self inserts or rather they have a trait from me and I made them their own character since I heard to also make them their own person not just a self insert. I honestly couldn't see Raye's goal with HGS like his ideals or philosophy or love for storytelling. All this show portrays is how they wanted to spread propaganda instead of general storytelling as u can tell from how much they focus on unimportant things than actual plot. The writers were too concerned about other things or rather Raye was too focused on his characters being "PERFECT" that he never thought of giving them any personality as well as flaws. They can literally just do anything and get away with it cuz they're the MCs so why would ppl even care about your show OR the characters when he made them so unlikable. Like all I hear is ppl rooting for the villains rather than the MCs of HGS from how much they dislike them.

I'm not too sure about that. Twilight was so hilariously bad that it kinda works as an ironic watch, but HGS is just kind of dull, nobody really does anything.

@@ForestBoyProductions Yeah, but who's can resist quoting "Is sleep a food"

@@Stadic78 That's the abridgment version. But does anyone really just want to watch HGS by itself? Meanwhile Twilight in completely watchable bu itself because it's... so... unique.

Thing is High Guardian Spice was never taken seriously. It was called cringe before it even aired, and would probably stay that way as it gets forgotten.

@@clan741 we should abridge the show. Full on ghost stories fandub.

did you find them?

People prefer to give praise? On what planet? From preschool to adulthood I can't tell you any praise I've gotten and they all said it was for my sake so that I don't become arrogant. Left me with a lot of self-esteem issues, I can tell you that. I actually think that praise is more important that ripping things to shreds. Let's not pretend that most of these videos are actual critiques because critiques are supposed to be fair and unbiased. If at the end of your critique, the audience and the person comes to the conclusion that they should give up, then your critique has failed because it did not result in improvement. These videos are not critiques. And I'd rather have more shows to choose from than less so I will never support the kind of gatekeeping I see some people proposing

Looks like all 12 of them weren't doing anything anyway 🤣

They sound like the product of an internet echo chamber

Sounds like your writing little witch academia.

@@foxpro3002 I mean, I don't want to copy that anime, so the only thing I'm trying to take from this is basically "kids going to magical school" but the way they find out, reasons for them to go there and other plot information are going to be different. And since I watched this anime, I know what would seem like copying it, and I will try to avoid those, making things different

@@CrystalicAria that sounds great aria, as a inspiring writer myself I support your story, I was also going to write that type of story but too many projects caused me to leave it behind, hopefully you can bring it out in the world and perhaps do it better than HGS.

@@foxpro3002 Thanks ^^

Criticism is supposed to be for the creator. The problem is that at this point, nothing can be done about the show. That's why all these video essays feel empty. They claim it's so others can improve but at this point, these videos just make me uncomfortable

LOOK AT MY HORSE MY HORSE IS AMAZING

All I can think of now is something my dad told me about the first time he put on _The Real Ghostbusters_ for my siblings and me (paraphrased): "When the intro started, I was horrified that I had ever liked this show. Then the episode got underway, and I remembered that I had loved the writing, not the animation."

Also see... - Poppee the Performer: I'd recommend Saberspark's review of this show to explain what it is and why it is the way it is. It's like the hyper violent Japanese equivalent of Tom and Jerry. Lots of sound affects, fast paced scenes, expressive movement, distinctive characters, shock value and jokes up jokes upon jokes. - Violinist of Hameln: this series is mostly still images and it has a great following. I haven't watched it myself yet but it looks great. - Pucca: this crazily adorable lore-packed comedy action chibi show started off with clunky flash animation and no voice acting at all for crying out loud! I know it has its flaws but it was so much better than High Gardian Spice.

RSD Game-Maker was a game engine made with no budget. There were entire games made with it, also with no budget or perhaps a little bit of a budget as seen with Dummy Duck 4, which likely only costed $30 to make, yet it still is better in every way, shape & form.

I've had that experience a year or so ago and it still eats at me to this day all because I asked a simple question.

What you just said reminds me of Sonichu & Chris Chan.

That is true the industry is kinda messed up when it comes to treating their employees

@@guardianHQ You can use stuff like Kemono Friends Season 1 instead, which was a labor of love from 10 people & made with 0 budget over 500 days. That show got them a cult hit status in Japan, got them a Season 2 deal with big licensers, and plenty of merchandising rights. There's also other works like Touhou Fantasy Kaleidoscope that's also a labor of love & freely uploaded undubbed to RU-vid (fandubs are by up&coming voice actresses) that gets a lot of attention too. *Lack of money really never an excuse for bad works.*

I'm just reminded that High Guardian Spice was announced in 2018 & aired October 2021. That's at most 1095 days...nearly double the time Kemono Friends S1 production took, and Kemono Friends S1 was made for free lmao.

Years of practice

THANK YOU.

Can you tell us which video this was on? I'm not trying to witch hunt Jim Light, but like Guardian HQ said they made these comments public with the expectation that someone would see them, and I'm curious to see how this shitshow has devolved ever since Guardian HQ stepped out of it

@@snowfall7160 “more errors in high guardian spice episode 1”

@@The_Misanthropic_Magpie is the comment pinned?

@@hwaitboii8346 nope

@@The_Misanthropic_Magpie found it at the very bottom, that guy’s is very egotistical

I would argue with the strong writing, personally found Catra to be abusive, manipulative, and so help me with the overtime reductions.

@@frostryu Catra is a piece of work too be sure..l

@@frostryu Yeah, keep in mind Catra was based on Nate's abusive wife. I found the characters unlikable and it gets way too much praise then it needed. Nate also downplayed Filmation's accomplishments, the original She ra va was the only mature one who tried to calm down both new and old fans yet didn't get a part and they didn't even care that the original co founder died until being called out. Then again, since She Ra went with the fan baiting route, was shilled by mainstream media and its fans attacked anyone who criticizes it even if it's not scathing, I have no positive things to say about it. The fact that Jim Light brings it up here implies that he was a fan of Nu ra (or just blindly defends it) or just assumed Guardian HQ is a part of Nu ra's critics for even making HGS videos

@@cartoonking1789 I can't wait for its praises die down for good

I'm cishet and I haven't watched She-ra, but I watched videos criticizing it episode by episode, so I feel that I know enough. And my only big issue was how they romanticized Catra's abuse towards Adora, and ignored the her actions solely because its a lesbian relationship. If Catra was a male, no one would be supporting the relationship, and they would actually hate Catra as a character. Seeing canon LGBT couples in shows is always great to see. But if any relationship straight or gay get borderline abusive/toxic, It makes me super uncomfortable aswell as infuriated whenever the abuser get rewarded or praised. It's also worrying that these are the relationships vulnerable people have to idolize. Resulting in them entering abusive relationships aswell.