Satan quoted Scripture to try to trick Jesus...and well, Jesus quoted Scripture right back at him -to rebuke him. We need to be well versed to do the same to these wolves, and then have nothing to do with them. [2 Timothy 2:15] Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Jesus is on His Way!
@@gigicoyle4245 I need to run to God, he use God, Jesus Christ N the Bible against me. He said he doing great, he is bless N God gave him peace. My mind is so mess up, how could God allow someone I still care about and love. 💔😭🙏🏾 I'm pray N asking God to heal me. I'm hurting.
This was the hardest challenge for me. A worldly narcissist destroys your soul (your mind, your will, your intellect, your emotions) but a Christian Covert Narcissist mercilessly crushes your very spirit (identity, purpose, gifting, calling) and it's not for the faint of heart! God's grace is much needed!
Exactly. I have had an awful experience with a christian narc. It's been nine years and it still hurt. I relive the character assassination done by this woman. It the grace of God that has been saving me from ending up in a psychiatric hospital even though I'm still finding healing.
I'm married to one of these demons. He really puts on a show for his family, even got baptized to "prove" his sincerity. I see through his facade and God his blessed me with discernment to see a whole lot more. Setting boundaries until I can get out
And they choose strong confident Christians to do it to. It’s like we are their ultimate challenge. They get bored with others but we have so many resources it gives them years of game playing fun. I was on the cusp of developing my own ministry when I met him.
@@shelleyd9910 Wow…it is absolutely amazing…they are definitely sent to abort the purpose and the plan that God has for our lives…God is our great deliverer and He is our strength….He specializes in things that seems impossible…PTL! Just like Kris said in the video…they are wolves in sheep’s clothing…I’m so thankful that the LORD opens the eyes of the blind, He raises up those who are bowed down, the LORD loves the righteous - Psalm 146:8
Correct. However, the bible does say that a person can get to a point that they sear their conscience. That the wound could become incurable, and the iniquity is full. Also, the scriptures state that God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble. Pride is a hallmark of a narcissist. However, only God can determine if they have absolutely hardened their heart against Him. We can pray for them, but don't get discouraged if they don't change. They will have to get to a point of humility in order to accept the gospel message. Love hopes.
@@sues3218 You make an interesting point, but the thing about the narcissist that shows them to be under demonic control is that they almost NEVER respond to any kind of psychological treatment. They simply will not acknowledge themselves ever as having a problem. Everyone else is the problem, not them. One can, however, be under a demonic OPPRESSION, and not a possession. A saved, spirit filled believer can fall into this category. Because of the presence within them of the Holy Spirit, they cannot be possessed, but they can still be deceived and controlled by demonic forces.
I hope so ... the covert Christian narcisisst I was married to, turned the hearts from 2 of my best friends away from me and is in a relationship with the third one since 4 weeks after divorce. These destroyed friendships nearly broke me. I am not sure if it would do me good to restore two of them but I wish they see his real character clearly one day and remember that I was the truthteller.
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Narcissists are flocking to the churches as pastors and staff. They see it as easy, safe ground where they can easily operate among loving, giving, forgiving people.
I've found Christians to be problematic to work for as a tradesman They are no better than secular clients If anything worse ... Maybe they think I'm working for the devil because I'm not a Christian ..they love holding onto their money as well
I know for a fact my ex is doing this. Im not sure she is npd. But any neg feelings or reactions or things that happened always get blammed on closest ppl to her or spirits etc etc and it seams she wants to be looked up upon alot. She wouldnt even do therapy with me to find out if me, her or us had issues, she told me if she went it would be to her church therapist which im not sure even has one but because the therapist needs to understand her spiritual gifts if assessing her smh. Yea right. She radomly broke up with me once and i went back on my own even after she brough men with her i never met, didnt ask to my house to get her things. When i mentioned it was disrespectful she had excuses and all that and tried to make me feel bad and got mad at me i felt wronged by it. But was for few weeks then another time and we got back togerher she told me she gotten confuzed. She was in church and got things lifted out or off of her and even saw spirits rise out of ppl like a exorcism and was sorry for. Projecting onto me and us things that were not our faults and subconsciously hurting me smh. Just some mind blowing stuff and i knew in the beggining alot was off putting but i stayed, not because of whst i was geting but because of the overal connection i always felt towards her and ive been hurt and she made it out everyone had done her so bad all her life. In the end she tore me a new one. 6 months later im still breaking down at times because non of it makes sense and was so confuzing along with the shameing me from a god perspective and i know im not perfect and use to tell her i wasnt when she would tell me I was. Then she make it out when her mood shifts happen and i address it that im the grandiose victim and she is so much deserving and so smart.
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God gave me a dream in 2016. My ex was coming out of a church, and I was waiting outside after church looking for him. He walked right past me and made a bee line down a sidewalk. He turned to the LEFT (that's important detail) and disappeared. Moments later a pack of gray wolves came from the direction he went and crossed the street. Then I heard my son crying. I looked for him and couldn't see him. The wolves formed a circle, and in the circle was my son. I could not get to him because they stood guard. They were not aggressive but stood looking outward. I woke up. 3 months later, he took my son from me 1,000 miles away to another state. I didn't see my son until 6 months later after I divorced him and filed for a pickup order. God was warning me. I will never forget that dream.
I believe God sends us messages in dreams and sometimes we don’t realize it. I had dreams of my husband having an affair with a girl. He later confessed to me about the affair and it was with the girl I would dream him with. After his confession, I knew God was warning me about it. We are divorced now because 9 years later I had those dreams of him again with another girl and again the girl in my dream was the girl he messed around with.
Whoa…This just gave me chills and the alert to focus on some dreams God has given me recently. Thank God that you were able to get him back but that must have been a terrible time for you.
I was dating a Christian Covert narcissist. We just broke up last night. I feel so much better today. I dont have to walk on eggshells anymore! Day 1 of No contact/blocked!!
@@Heseesyou Well, he's still trying to call and leave voice-mails! I blocked him and my phone shows me all of my blocked calls. His sister and son throughout to me. And I blocked them too! I am done ✔️. Not going back..
@@mortischahicks5341 praise God.. I pray for the strengthen, wisdom and faith to pass this test.. I pray you will not be double minded and you will give God the glory to rescue you! 🙏
Excellent. One thing that is not talked about a lot is grieving the loss that people go through when they face the fact that they've been used in a relationship with a narcissist when they gave the narcissist the benefit of the doubt and forgave them an extended trust over and over. A sense of loss can be real when you realize you were played.
That is so true. I have lived all my adult life with a covert christian narcissist, now I see his lies, outside relationships, serious addictions, manipulation and control, etc. I am grief stricken as I have come to realize what went on after a brutal descard … there has to be a grieving process. I also can not call him out. And now to top it, he sees himself as the VICTIM after our separation 7 months ago.😢
The grief is real, only grace has sustained me. Going on 2 years separated from my family. My Christian covert Narc mom has most everyone fooled that she is a saint! Pure evil to a person with love in their heart.
In front of others in the church, they smile from ear to ear, speaking sweetly. Privately, they are blood thirsty, like a vulture, or hungry fox, or starving wolf: And they will get their teeth into you with their curse words of death and they will non stop rip you to shreds. Then they go behind your back and slander you while playing the victim. And others in the church will believe them.
You're describing 2 old ladies I know...They were gossiping abt me today but I was in close proximity...When I popped up, they ignored me and dispersed. Red faced. One of them is my landlady and the other, her sister. They run a prayer group on Thursdays but act like atheists 99% of the time.
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“Lord, Show me what I need to see” is what I would pray. And boy did God show me. Three times over He showed me the unfaithfulness of my covert Christian, ex-husband’s narcissistic pathological behavior. Only then was I able to let him go out of my heart. But when I let go, I was finally at peace. If you ask God to show you, He will, be ready for it!
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My ex-bestfriend of 25 years calls herself a Christian, and I now know is a Covert Narcissist. She is incredibly passive aggressive and has done some truly evil stuff over the years.
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It’s sad that there is so much brokenness in the world. Narcissism doesn’t just suddenly happen, it’s from either trauma or being spoiled. That’s my understanding. It seems like it’s an epidemic.
"...it's from trauma or being broken" that's not narcissism, that's the effects of abuse. Someone can come from a very loving family and still be a narcissist. There is a huge difference between -- someone who is behaving in an agressive or defensive manner and testing the boundaries of someone's love, or maybe even needing to control their relationships because they've been physically/emotionally/mentally abused --- and someone who behaves this way just to mess with your life because they get a thrill out destroying the lives of others. The abused person will take the genuine love and care of others and eventually heal because of it. The narcissist will take the genuine love and care of others and use it to destroy them.
I was married to a narccisistic pastor for 11 years. Everything she is saying is so true. It ended and it costed me dearly. Rise against one and you will pay dearly, leave quietly. He had groomed my daughter for 13 yrs. She wasn't allowed to date, no one was Christian enough for him to allow her too, no real friends, he put her ahead of me and even after a massive surgery, I was a hindrance and had to call my mom to take care of me while he kept my daughter busy by shopping and taking her out to eat and to the movies. He made me feel guilty for wanting to leave bcuz how dare a pastors wife leave and ask for a divorce, what would the congregation say? The guilt and shame of what he made me believe and making me feel like I would spend eternity in hell. My world was shattered. What changed, I dug deep!!! I listened to pod cast about narcs, about how to survive, I read myBible, and not one said to stay in this, in fact, they all said to get out if I was certain it were going on. He began faking his health and saying he was dying, and lie about surguries and said the military where he worked was using him as a guinea pig so he didn't have a bill and bcuz it was on base, I wasn't allowed to go?! Brain surgery and you're walking out the same day and im not allowed to to talk to a single dr? I stayed for a long time and then I put my big girl pants on, took a great big breath and started asking him the hard questions, contradicting to what he was telling us. Needless to say, I left and never looked back. But it costed me my daughter. I begged her to come with me. He had/has her convinced he is dying and it's me with the problem. See, she doesn't care, leaves me when I'm dying, yet he's a very active sharp man who doesn't skip a beat for a man who had his brain cut on. Everyone else left in the church when I did other than 3 other "woman" . It's been 4 yrs, my daughter is now 27 & still not out & she told me recently, i seen her in a restaurant to tell her I loved her and missed her, her response was, my life is better without you in it. Its hard picking up the pieces. It's devastating what they try to do to you and succeed. Using your own children against you. Please pay attention to your atmosphere. Watch in silence, and if your gut is saying something is off, please leave. The longer you stay, the more you get sucked in and things unravel. Til this day I struggle with spiritual, mental and emotional abuse. It will affect your whole life. Not all pastors are narcs, just keep your eyes open, a wolf in sheep's clothing, it could cost you everything, temporarily, maybe even permanently. With a narc, you never know. I don't say this to scare you, just to be aware. I wish you the very best. Love and prayers to you.
I am so glad you got out from the overwhelming pit of darkness. Your daughter will either see the truth or if not, she prefers to live like him and take the benefits. Narcissistic people are not pussy cats, they seek to devour you. You deserve to be treated with love, respect and honour. Don’t look back my dear friend, go forward and know that God is with you, he dwells in the light.
@MaidMarion I have learned that you only get one life. You make your own choices and everyday, you wake up, is a new beginning. Use that beginning as if it's the last day if your life. Not to spend my days dwelling on what I don't have, bit to smile, throw my head back and know despite what's not there, I am blessed. To look at what I do have and live the best life possible. Mind over matter. Faith over fear. God over everything and in that, I am an overcomer! 🥰
I have come across this type of narcissist, it's very sad and disappointing to see that they truly don't love Jesus Christ. They just use the "Christian card" to hide their true colors 😕😤
That's why I find it odd that all these supposed Christians feeled duped when they marry these other supposed Christians who were narcissists. I get the impression many were never Christians in the first place, they get bitter and just divorce, that's not how it suppose to work.
@@rickspalding3047I don’t think you understand how it works. If it were easy to spot these people and deal with them the world would be in a much better place. It’s important not to victim blame
@@maidmarion2976 then they didn't listen to the holy spirit, marriage is the second most important decision in your life, looks like alot of people with carnality and lack of discernment, it takes two to tango
yes my sil is this a wolf in sheeps clothing and her fkying monkey husband. Claiming the christian card and not accountable for their actions and cause immature drama for my husband and I. Hypocrite definately.
That's not true at all but just a random number thrown out. Even Jesus dealt with the churches in Revelation and specifically said " you have some" but he was not dealing with the entire congregation. There are far more narcissist in the world then the church by a long shot.
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Gavin de Becker in his book "The Gift of Fear" wrote, "We must learn and then teach our children that niceness does not equal goodness. Niceness is a decision, a strategy of social interaction; it is not a character trait."
I so hope so bec he is going three years strong on building his reputation as this great Christian man and it seems to have an entire town fooled. Makes me sick
My neighbor and I went to a estate sale, she wanted to switch a price tag. I looked at her and said, "Absolutely not, that's stealing!" She got the victim look on her face, like they always do when they get called out. She really had me convinced that she was a "Christian" and that was pretty much the end of our relationship. She had a big sense of entitlement. The longer you are around them, the more you see how shady they really are. It's sad how many people they fool with their version of Christianity. It's really difficult to find good, solid people in this world.
Please don’t think that last statement. There are actually many authentic people in this world, both believers and non believers. I pray you find them. ❤️
That is really the truth. I’ve tried to clean those kind of Christians out of my life & to discontinue further involvement with them if I can. It’s a good feeling!
No matter what kind your value system is made of. An ASPD will study it, to put you into the spotlite when they crack it by your emotions for their needs to laugh at you for your wanna be values. If you follow your own rules, they just cost you energy, health and lifetime. If you don't, they will ruin your life with sadistic satisfaction. If you also are a walking mirror, but of the light side, you will crush their fragile ego and get them into Asylum with psychosis.
My sister was getting married and went to a flee market with her check book to buy furniture. Someone told her no he doesn't accept checks, that guy was smart because she was doing what he thought.
I heard a Christian woman curse a man whom she almost ran off the road by accident. He was on a motorcycle, he had the right of way, and she cut him off accidentally. He passed her and flipped her off. She very coldly said that she hoped he would get in a wreck and die. I said "kris, you need to repent, right now." She said "I WILL NOT." That made me take another look at her Christianity, that's for sure.
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@@whatadaytobealive I am much better now, but it took many years. Every once in a while something will remind me of it, and it stings a little again, but I have accepted who she has chosen to be and that I can't change that fact, it is her choice. I simply won't participate in that crazy path she has created with the sick mind games she plays, I want no part in it. I went no contact years ago. Since my husband was the scapegoat of the family, we have each other to lean on to get through it all. It hurts that our children will never have that normal grandmother. However, I do have to guard my heart not to have a knee jerk reaction when meeting new people (especially ones who call themselves Christians). I will proceed with caution, but try not to over react to anything. I have to slow down and be fair in my judgement, and not let my feelings take over. I think that is the hardest part of it all. Trying not to be hypersensitive that way, but also not wanting to get ensnared again. I also did a lot of evaluation on my own heart. I needed to understand why I had let her manipulate me like that for so long. I needed to stop being a people pleaser and realize that it is ok to put up healthy boundaries, and say no at times. It truly was a horrible thing to go through, and I got to a point afterwards of reaching a deep pit of confusion and bitterness. However, when I finally called out to God and said to Him that I don't care who people pretend that you are, please show me who You actually are. Then, I felt the urge to read the bible myself (something that I had NEVER done in 38 years), and I was amazed at how much I hadn't been told in the religion I grew up with, and the things that I was told incorrectly. I heard the actual gospel message for the first time in my life, and I became a born again believer in Jesus. My family saw the change in me (I didn't think it was even visible), and later they also got saved. So, she did not succeed in destroying our souls. Praise God! Now, I test the spirit to see whether or not they are from God, by seeing what His word says and not relying on what some else just tells me. It was a painful journey, but I actually don't regret it. It brought me to my breaking point, and Jesus came and pulled me up, dusted me off, saved me, and now is showing me the right path to take. I regret not reading the bible much sooner in my life, but better late than never. I hope you have found some peace also. God Bless.
@@sues3218 I feel your pain and its reminiscent to mine. I don't have a mother because of who she is as well. Hold onto those you are close to and love. I believe in time and work prayer, we'll grow stronger and overcome the mistreatment we have been through.
@@whatadaytobealive Thank you for the kind words. It helps to be around people who understand. The LORD will take what they meant for our harm, and turn it for good to save many. I truly believe that. I sincerely hope you will have a wonderful day. God Bless.
You have described my mother perfectly. She accuses me of horrible things which are lies so that she gets attention and sympathy from other people. She doesnt care about me at all, I knew this from a very young child she never loved me. She uses the bible as a weapon to make you think God will never love you and you will never be good enough. She holds grudges for life against the simplest things people may have done, even unknowingly, she lies constantly about everything and acts like she is a wonderful christian and loving person to everyone else and they buy into her lies about me. I am holding onto God knowing that he sees all and someday I won't be around this garbage anymore.
I'm so sorry to hear that but so glad to hear that you are holding on to God. He will bless and guide you on your journey to healing. Thanks for sharing :)
I was married to this kind. And he is different with his kids than most…he sees them as an extension of himself and they definitely protect him or stand up for him when applicable. But I’m sorry you have to have a mother like this… it is demonic as all get out. The reputation he is building and being among the believers and preaching and worshipping leading … it’s disgusting. I want to expose it So Very Badly
Yup, my narc mom tried to get me to kill myself so she could ķeep all my wealth and not have her narc overlords be exposed. That's why they are willing to do to make themselves feel special
I feel ya, my mother was the same way but she didn’t follow God. But she would have angels everywhere. Well the one day I ask her cause she never spoke about God or went to church except on Christmas Eve. But she told she had the angels cause she felt if she had all these angels that she would get into heaven. I told her it don’t work like that, but what goes on in her head is something I will never understand.
Yes…the “Christian” narc had a lot of us fooled…but God is a great deliverer and He is angry with the wicked every day. Staying in lock step with Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the key…He has promised that we shall bear fruit in old age and shall be fresh and flourishing - Psalm 92:14 Continue to PRAY and hold on to God’s unchanging hand, because He is faithful, His Word is truth and He sits on high forever. PTL!
Oh you are so on the Cutting Edge. People assume that because people have passed exams to advance in their profession that they are mature but this is not so. Sometimes in essence the Christian Narcissist is really inadequate. Women often have a better inbuilt Radar than men. They begin by making new attendees the flavour of the month , by bestowing their over contributing to the meetings initially. Then they go cold whilst moving on to the next prospective member. Some people are so kind and sweet they do not realise that they are vulnerable . The Narcissist like you to call him/her Pastor in reverence. Fierce favouring you they will make more and more demands , like asking the congregant to climb a high slippery Church roof in order to save the Church some money . Or, they will ask him to climb a high ladder for decorating . When the family says “NO” then he goes and breaks his own arm. So he will demand that he is taken shopping to the Supermarket . Yet if you ask him for a lift to the Supermarket because the car is off the road he says sorry no I have a prior engagement . He will ask you to break Lockdown in order to save the life of his dying rabbit 🐇 going to the vets. But it’s ok if you catch the Coof. The family then has to intervene on behalf of the Subject who is being used and abused. If you are late for a Zoom call meeting during the Coof or ordinarily , he will text you if you are 5 minutes late ⏰ saying “Where are you “? Every morning at 7:30 am prompt you are to attend for early morning prayer 🙏 meetings . Where you will be told what and how you are to pray. If you and the family go on holiday you are still expected to report for duty via your I phone 📱. Or you will receive a text demanding you contact them now because the Pastor is concerned about you. You 10% is an expected Given. The Pastor will begin to resent your family and isolate you from your own family , causing bad feeling , it’s not the Pastors fault but the family who will not come to heel. If the family does not support the vulnerable Subject by attending Church with the Subject. Then the family is in a backslidden state who does not know the Lord like the Pastor and the key members of Church/Fellowship. Worship must follow rote , nobody is allowed to slip in a song or a chorus on their heart . Anybody allowed to preach must follow the given dogma . There is to be no worship on the hoof , though they claim to be Pentecostal. He will fall out with many people whose views do not accord with his own . Controlling always . He must control the narrative and persuade the Subject it is al, for their benefit. I could go on but if you identify with any of what I have written - Head for the Hillsvand don’t look back !
Obviously, not everyone who claims to be a Christian, is one. I think one of the most dangerous things you can do in a Church setting is to try and warn others about a hurtful narcissist. They will have everyone (except those with discernment) fooled, and you will be made to look "judgemental". Ask the Lord to expose them and wait for Him to act. Work on your own relationship with Jesus and you will grow so strong. This from someone who has lived all this. God is so faithful and good.
When you confront them, the always come back with the "Judge not" quote. Many churches will hurl that at you too, completely forgetting that we are called to discern and we are to confront someone who has wronged us and give them opportunity to make it right. A Christian would WANT to make it right. My 'Christian' mother went to her grave without acknowledging her abuse towards me, let alone repenting about it. I was with her when she died and I so hoped that there would at least be some form of regret. Nope. Now my sister has taken up where she left off and I have had to go no contact. Breaks my heart as she is my last surviving family member.
@Eden You are so right…asking the LORD to expose the narc for who they are and strengthening your relationship with Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the way to go…Yes and Amen! I would love to hear your testimony. Have you done anything public that you can share? God is truly faithful and ooowee good!
Very, very good advice. Bless you. God is the ultimate judge and he see, and knows all. Praying to God to lead us and put that armour on even in the church house is very important.
@@l.5832 It can be a very lonely but peaceful time spent separated from them. I choose time in the word instead of time waiting for the other shoe to drop, when in the company of my family.
That's what's happening to me. Married 29 years to one. Went for counseling with different pastors and left even more heartbroken. Even years ago when I showed them prove, they still denied it, cause my covert Christian narcissist is so charismatic. Its exhausting and I have not more strength to fight it or to start another legal separation. This time I told him to do it. 😢
This is what I just dealt with for 20 years and I just officially became divorced a few days ago - thank God!! But my pastor and church were lost in the process because they don't get it or believe me. 😢
Thank you for sharing. The same is true for me. My husband is such a charming and gifted actor. And the pastor does not seem to understand nor take sides. Considering the deceit, adultry, porn adiction etc. of my husband, I would have thought there would be some clear words from the pastor when I told her before Easter. 😢
Mine had lunch with our pastor right before we divorced. We live in a small town and he has spread false allegations about me cheating. Many believe him. The pastor turned away from me and my son at the Easter service.
@@uktea9610 this is horrendous. Maybe speak to that pastor but actually you have nothing to explain to anyone. If he turned that easily he is not a god pastor after all
I was praying with a sister in Christ last year and afterward she said to me " you need to learn how to pray". I was floored.. i was so hurt that her comment actually stumbled my prayer life for a year. I felt horrible. Then i remembered whaat Jesus said about the pharisee and the tax collector prayi g in the temple... the LORD hears my prayers and answers.. i dont need to recite the whole bible when i pray...
Everybody needs to learn how to pray, although we all can pray but there is truly a learning process. That’s why some people’s prayers are effective and some are not. Maybe her tone hurt you but if you were humble you wouldn’t have to be a victim and feel so hurt so long. You can ask her: do you need to learn too?
One of them told me I can't hear the voice of God. But she could hear it because she was a prophetess. She also told me that God told her information about me. The delusions
I have a mother who is a covert, vulnerable, “Christian” narcissist. I was delivered out of a brief marriage to one too. God opened my eyes to these disordered, tortured souls. I have NO CONTACT with my ex-husband and very limited “light and polite” contact with my mom. I stepped down from leadership in a prominent church in my area last summer. Several male leaders were attempting to prey upon my vulnerability after my divorce. I was released by God to shake the dust off my feet from these wolves in sheeps clothing and walk away. Narcissistic are rampant in the church buildings, from the pulpit to the pews.
Great content. One of my daughters told our therapist that living with her dad/my husband was like Dr Jekyl/Mr. Hide. We hosted a small bible study in our home and often he would be “running late because of work”-really he was hooking up with his affair partner/co-worker at the office. He was a member of the worship team. He would be singing God’s praises while in the audience I was sitting on one side with his mistress on the other. He even later confessed that the reason he did mission work was not because he had a heart for helping other people, but because it would make him look good and build up his standing in the church and in the community at large. I still struggle to come to terms with the fact that he could call himself a Christian, while committing adultery with many women over many years of our marriage. I know we are all sinners, but it seems like a true Christian would strive to be more like Jesus And not continue in their sin. Unfortunately, this has caused my children to question Christianity and struggle with their faith. BTW he’s a doctor.
My Ex husband, which at this time was trying to get bk together after 10 years. He divorced me to marry his Co work adultery partner. She left him after she had an affair on him N then divorced him. He still doing the same things even after all that. I kniw I have to repent for my sins but I do strive to be more like Jesus !
If you still can, try to explain to your children this has nothing to do with God nor His Word. Psalm 50:16-22 might be a good start or 2 Timothy 3:1-5 to teach them what God Himself says about those people. For your children, there's still hope in Christ. He's COMING SOON, Maranatha! 🙏👰💖
My husband doesn’t talk so I never know what is going on. He can talk just doesn’t want to so in that respect you are lucky. It is like pulling teeth to get any sensible answer out of him. I still don’t know WHY he wanted a separation after 50yrs.
Thank you for sharing your story. I still struggle with a very similar situation. And I feel still shocked about it all, the instant and cruel discard last year 8:37 , the victim mentality, the lies, the heavy porno addiction, the playing in front of Christian friends and on and on. I talked to our pastor just before Easter
Jekyll/Hyde? Sounds like dissociative disorder with demons on guard to stop someone from being saved (or so Satan thinks). Have you watched Diane Langberg?
This describes my ex husband ! First started with verbal abuse and mind games all in the name of Jesus then came the physical abuse. I am so thankful to God that He saved me from him 🙌✝️🙏🕊
The only time mine got threatening violence was when I said in a hard time of our lives that God would be good to us and we could count on Him. That ripped the last of the scales off my eyes.
@@shelleyd9910This just shows the evil. God is goodness and light and they can’t stand it. Blessings my dear friend. My Narcissistic husband was very very subtle, it took me years to understand what he was doing. He was aided and abetted by his family. They are intent on destroying us. They didn’t though did they?
@@maidmarion2976 for years I just kept asking for the behaviour to stop and tried to encourage him to real faith. I put the verbal abuse down to Satan and kept rebuking him out of our marriage without acknowledging he was collaborating with Satan.
Few will make it, be that few.. hell enlarges herself daily 😢😮 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
That's actually a psychopath (narcissistic psychopathy). My father was one of them. He killed us, his whole family. He has yelled, mocking us and beaten us constantly, killed our spirits, our belief, our life energy, our love and self-esteem. He was vile, aggressive, evil, manipulative and really dangerous. But in front of other people he pretended to be nice, funny and caring person (his IQ was high and his ego even higher). After his death there is a relief but also and hard traumas, scars. And that's what psychopaths really want - your pain, your misery, your scars, your good energy to become bad energy. They enjoy in that, they love your pain. And all of that because they are missing true love and don't know how to love.
@mirovinac3968, Wow you just describe my entire life with my father☹ 💔So sorry you also had to endure such evilness growing up. Stay close to Our Father in Heaven it does get better, Trust and have Faith🙌
I really struggled to see my husband as a narcissist UNTIL I watched this. So charismatic, outgoing, HELPFUL to everyone else, loved reading the Bible BUT behind doors would use scripture to set up rules for me, push my older children away, and eventually tell me I was not a Christian (and the rest of my family). I am going through the divorce process and have struggled why a new church he attends has been so welcoming to him. This video gave me such insight and I have come to the conclusion he is a wolf in sheep's clothing and unfortunately this church is really just feeding his Covert Christian Narcissism.Thank you Kris!
Please pray for me. My dad is overt narcissist and I suspect my mom is a covert narcissist. I am realizing that I trusted her the most and she has hurt me far emotionally and mentally far worse than my dad. She gives me the silent treatment whenever I voice a thought or opinion she doesn't agree with or when I try to set a boundary. We are highly emeshed and codependent. She acts like she's never made a mistake in her life and like she's always right. And she's made me feel like I'm constantly making mistakes and coming up short. When I was little and did something wrong, she'd look at me with big angry eyes and say, "I hope I see you in heaven someday. You better get it right cause I'm not sure you will go to heaven at this point." That scared me and I've often had times where I doubt my salvation and have to remind myself I've accepted his gift of salvation and can't lose it. Narcissists are so draining.
Kimberley Christine: I'll pray for you, that is too bad what you have been exposed to by your mother. So good that you are not broken and can reach out for help, and see that she does wrong by you. Is she co-dependent to HER parents, because not towards you. You might seek more info and get help with definitions at f ex Peter Gerlach, he has some good nuanced definitions, and also offers free lessons to heal. The Crappy Childhood Fairy has some good things/videos too, and Irene Lyon.Feel who resonates with you, suits your soul and where you are at now. Astrodienst might provide help too, it has helped me a lot. Every human is unique, which is lost in such narrow definitions as this one, where the sufferinghuman gets lost on the way of accusing, condemning them. They arewn't aeare of what they are doing, may have worse demons/entities attached than most people, and not know what to do with their negativity. Do you know the 12-step program? Al Anon helps many , and ACA. OA, and open AA meetings also very good, wonderful work-book (OA uses it too). I hope you have or can seek supportive, loving ppl where you live. Can you write a diary? That can help a lot to cope in the moment and get clarity inside! :-)
Thank you so much for your reply and taking the time to do so. I believe she was codependent with her mom but now that she's passed away she is very emeshed with me. I started keeping a journal and it has helped me see that my relationship with my parents isn't normal and is toxic. Thank you for all your recommendations. I will definitely check into each of those. I do watch a lot of videos from Crappy Childhood Fairy and Dr. Ramani and they've helped so much. I hope to move away soon and begin a new life of healing and growing. Thanks again. God bless you.
@@kimberlychristine9284 Dr Les Carter is also a good source of practical advice although he's not a born again believer and gives rather secular (but often humourous) analysis. 😀 My mother's relationship is also toxic and I had to separate long ago. It still hurts but Jesus Christ has made me free of that bondage too. I have no remorse about her, she's a notorious liar. GOD will deal with her and does it already. He's my only place to go, apart from my husband whom I love dearly and he's my brother in Christ too. Don't worry about your parents, you're not alone in this. 🙏👰💖 (read Ezekiel 18)
@@Corinna_Schuett_GER Thank you for your reply. I will check out Dr. Les Carter. It gave me hope and made me feel so good to hear that Jesus has healed you from past wounds and blessed you with a great husband. I pray that I will find true love and joy too. I feel God working in my life and opening my eyes. God bless you. 😊
Abba Father, Please hear Kimberly's cries for help in her time of need. Grant her a true knowledge and understanding of our LORD Jesus Christ. Help her to recognize the wiles of the devil, so that she can avoid his traps. Grant her strength to endure this trial in her life. Keep reminding her, that once saved by Your grace through faith in Your beloved Son, that no one can snatch her from Your hands. Let her know that her salvation is secure in Christ Jesus, and it is not based on our works and to not believe the lies spoken by those who are not Yours. Let your peace that surpasses all understanding rest upon her. Grant her the wisdom on how to deal with these narcissistic attacks. Help all Your children to be wise as a serpent, yet gentle as a dove. Help us all to speak Your truth in love. Grant us all the courage to speak Your truth in all situations. May our faith stand firm. May we fight the good fight of faith, even in these trying times. May we bear much fruit for Your glory. We love You, and we bless You now and forever. In the wonderful name of JESUS. Amen Stay in the word my beloved sister in Christ. Read all of it, it will help you during this trial in your life. Seek shelter under His wings. He loves you, and so do your brothers and sisters in Christ. You are not alone. God Bless. P.S. The Psalms and Proverbs are some good scriptures to help you at this point in your life, they helped me until I could get away from the narcissist. Just stay in His word, sit at His feet and learn from Him directly through His word. Read it all dear one. It is a guide for you in this life. The LORD will never leave you, nor forsake you. You are his beloved child. Cling to that truth.
I've had painful encounters with several Narc Christians BUT I need to acknowledge that my character DEFECTS paved the way for those Narcs to HURT me. I was their SITTING DUCK!!!...but now, a little wiser!😮
I got involved with a narc Christian. He has left me pennyless ( I was financially stable before meeting him). He destroyed me financially and also destroyed my health. My house was paid for and I was in perfect health before meeting this devil masquerading as a Christian. He actually bought me my first bible. I was new to the Christian faith. I'm going to be homeless soon and I can't live with my painful diseases anymore. I can't go on this way anymore. Please pray for me 🙏❤️ I wish I had known how wicked these people truly are😢 Thanks for spreading the word and educating people.
My parents are well-known beloved Pastors who travel to spread the gospel. But they are covert narcissists. And only us (my sister and I) and themselves know how they behave when no one is looking. We have adopted brothers and sisters who live with them and even they don't see that side of them. So there you go.
My parents are Pastors who travel to spread the gospel and yet they are covert narcissists. Only my sister and I know this. Even the adopted brothers and sisters who live with them haven't seen that side of them especially because they never contradict them or challenge them in any way. So there you go. And they truly believe they are righteous and good and they spend most of their lives being of service to others, generously giving their time and resources to others. It's very complicated.
Yes, I have a neighbour like this though does all her dirty work through her flying monkeys in our street, they slandered me all over my area .I just Don't want to go out . Even though I was kind and helped each one of them . I feeling my reputation is severely damaged by them. The neighbour who started this is playing the victim. I feel so angry.
@Kafarawatson93 you are not alone, I have been there with this neighbor,I am not ashamed of all her lies, because I am confident in whom I served,My friend they are going to Tell the world, what they did to innocent people,Read Psalms 37:1-2
Oh my dear sis...had 2 neighbor bullies, abusive, with their other 2 hostile & flying monkey couples and their miserable abusive-like-them grown children. They had no peace and targetted the peace-loving and empathetic. They were a bunch of constantly staring and spying bubybodies. They had no other activity except gossip-groups & ran about to attend every church wedding & funeral...to feed their shark-stomachs!! But were insatiably hungry!! One retired evil postman and his abusive wife created deafening noise/racket sun-up to sun-down...doors & windows & kitchen-utensils-banging, loud shouting and sneering and jeering and what not. This postman entered his own name into my mom's house-property document records after her demise, through fraudulent means with the help of corrupt officials in the records dept., and they enjoyed the three long years it took me to solve this. For me it was a needless waste of time, money and energy, & loss of work. Even when they lost the case and were exposed, they were not ashamed a bit, & they shamelessly went to church regularly as before...no remorse. He did this around age 60 though he had his own house!!
These people only watched and peep, and gossip and thief,and they don't have no shame,by watching these videos, I learned a lot about these monkeys and Vampires, but they will get their rewards,God clock keep the right time
I think it was number 6 that said; "I feel like I have to put myself down to make her like me". All I could say was WOW! I have been hurt more by "church people" than non believers. These types will tear your heart out. Going to put this on my favorites list.
This is my sister to a T. Sad thing is, she's fooled nearly my whole family and many people around her, due to her outward charm, fake niceness, and supposed 'good deeds.' All while spreading gossip and slander about me, constantly criticizing me, and deliberately undermining and humiliating me in front of family members. As she, with great pomp and dramatic flair, makes herself look like the hero and 'godly' sister. I've sadly had to make the decision to distance myself from her and many in my family due to how she treats me. I'm essentially the scapegoat in the family. My only comfort is trusting that God will judge her and the truth will eventually be revealed.
@@lemongate4869 It is. I'm so sorry to hear you know the same pain. At least we are not alone in our suffering. God sees. And one day he will vindicate us. As his Word says, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay."
💯%✓ true. I'm still struggling to survive this type ... A husband I no longer want to be married to as he continues to abuse secretly. These are demons, I'm not convinced otherwise!
I'm in the same boat. It's soo hard and we feel so alone since no one really understand or even believe us. But God does and soon He will deliver us from evil . No more tears , sorrow, loneliness. 😢 Stay strong in the Lord . He alone can help us .
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This is my husband it drives me nuts thank you for posting I really need this. I have a decision to make but it's killing me to cut him off even though I've finally noticed he's unreasonable and cruel. He vows and declares I'm going to Hell for not forgiving because he keeps repeating the behaviour, and I want it to stop. He insists forgiving means forgetting and never looking back, so he gets to do what he's always done and continues to devalue and hurt me.
Same here, my husband insists that I am an unforgiving Pharisee because I called out his ungodly behavior and won't tolerate his lies and deception and cheating any longer.
My mother is a grandiose narc. My first husband is a malignant narcissist. My current husband, who I am divorcing is a Christian covert narcissist. God revealed to me what he was and what my mom and ex husband were. It was so hard to leave but I’ve been out for over a year now, thank God!!! I didn’t really know anything about narcissists until about 3 years ago when I started watching RU-vid videos about them and it clicked. Now, all of the weird behaviors made sense. My covert narc husband did more psychological damage to me than both of the other narcs. Because of the conditioning my mother put me through, I was ripe for the pickin’ with my narc husbands. Time to focus on Jesus and heal.
Me too, started watching u tube video 3 years ago about it. Married 29 years , never really understood his anger and mood swing , control , verbal, emotional abuse . Etc...
Wow!!!!!! I was crying out to God for experiencing such abuse and for having my blessings stolen by the Christian Covert Narcissist with the title of a prophetess. Every point was accurate and sadly I fell victim, trying to be merciful and kind. I felt like I was losing my mind thinking maybe I overreacted to their behavior. Thanks for sharing this and shedding light on this wolf. ❤
I wish people would stop demonizing wolves when describing horrible people and horrible human behavior!! The two things are worlds apart. Wolves are awesome. People suck, generally speaking.
My narcissists were 3 priests...one groomed me, the other tried to destroy me, mentally and spiritually and thirdly the priest I confided in about priest one, tried to gaslight me by stating he couldn't remember about my grooming experiences. You see, I pose a threat to their existence by being open and frank about the details, which undermines their plan to manipulate others to believe I have a problem with priests. But I do have a problem with them.....particularly when they are guilty of molesting children and when they silence the victims....yeah....I have a big problem with them and I call them out on their " BS". But yes....take shelter in God, the one who is the silent witness to all and trust that He will make things right...because I assure you, He will. Don't be moved by the narcissist. Always remain peaceful and calm and in control....this is how you disarm them.🙏👍🇦🇺
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My husband is the Christian Covert Narcissist and listens to Christian Talk Radio all day at work. He doesn't do this to grow his mind, but to do battle and show up as if he knows what he's talking about and is so righteous - yet the man we know at home, isn't. So he doesn't come across to people as shallow in a conversation - quite the opposite. He comes across as so insightful & knowledgeable but only because he is literally regurgitating what he heard on talk radio - although he would never give credit as to hearing it on talk radio, so therefore he looks like he's amazing.
I can relate to this. They don't go to church to learn or grow. ITs all for appearances. The bible and the sermons are supposed to renew your mind and change your heart to be more like Jesus. God is definitely not pleased that these types use his word for deception in this way. Its unbelievable. They are master pretenders.
Timely message. Very much needed. I am 71 years old, still trying to recover from demons undercover as christians. I can't believe how quallable And naive I was. How I ignored so many red flags. By the time I finally left I was traumatized from years church folk abuse. There is such a code of silence on this subject By you bring it to light you will help a lots of niave😢 people . 2 cor 11 v14. Be not surprised even Satan masquerade as an angel or light.
I knew 3 people who were Christian covert narcissists. They act so innocent and sweet, but underneath their soft exterior is a secretively arrogant monster…they're basically clever and calculated actors or even imposters. They're convoluted, they have ugly ulterior motives, basically put, they're a Jimmy Savile. 🧠
It is why Jesus referred to them as "hypocrites". In the original Kione Greek, that the New Testament was written in, that word literally means "play actors". They never were Jesus' at all, they lie like their true father the devil. It was the one group of people where you see the LORD is VERY ANGRY with, in both the New and Old Testaments. They become stumbling blocks for those who want to enter the Kingdom of God, they go to make converts and make them twice a child of hell as themselves (the Lord's words, not mine) and the LORD said that greater will be their condemnation, greater than Sodom and Ghemorrah. They do not fear the LORD. They do not do the things He tells them to do. They do not have the love of Christ in them. It is truly sad. Their pride is just way too deep. God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble. They chose darkness, instead of light,. They choose death instead of life. God will judge them. Love hopes that one day they will humble themselves, before it is too late. They can't fool God. They can't manipulate the LORD. He will have the final say.
I was taken advantage of by a CCN. I was in a very vulnerable place in my life. I had never knew CCN even existed. Boy, did he do a # on me. I never saw it coming until he gutted me emotionally & broke my heart. Now I know better. I don't believe that I have to see him ever again. I have forgiven him & repented. I dodged a bullet. I believe God will give me a true loving Christian man. I pray that anyone that has been thru anything like this that God will heal you so you can love for real. ❤
Facts, narcs have spent almost 30 years destroying my life and trying to get me to kill myself. Unfortunately for me I've been studying these wolves and have came to the conclusion that they are weak beta male narc cowards. Because they are weak inside they seek to bully others so as to prevent others from seeing through them. They hate that they are human when their egos want them to be God. Rejoice, for my actions has set in motion God's ability to start punishing and bringing justice to those wolves in sheep clothing
So important that everybody understands that these people invade ALL spaces, every religion, every non religion, every space. Good on you for protecting your community with this very real toxic phenomena.
it also reminds me of the "name it and claim it" wealth seeking propagated by many celebrity Christians pastors and others, built on evil designs and grandiose ambition
My "mother" was one of these. At home, she was a cruel tyrant. In public, she was a "wonderful" person. A textbook religious Covert narc. She was the queen of her home and thought she owned everything in the house, including my expensive things. She thought that it was hers to do with as she wished. When asked about the disappearance of my property, she lied. She lied all the time; she would have made a good politician. 👿👿👿👿👿
My mothers wicked games of triangulation forced me into isolation, and her sinister abuse behind the alienation caused me to suffer from an autoimmune disease. I’m permanently disabled. These people are SICK, and their sickness will literally rub off on us. I need to escape, but there’s nowhere for me to go. It’s a matter of life or death.
Friend God does not want you to be a victim. It’s time to get Safe, Sane and Strong. I am legally blind and when I left I had nowhere to go. My church abandoned me. Another church helped me get temporary accomodation. There will be a way for you to live without this person. First you will need to get rid of “chronic helplessness”. As well as Kris there is Leslie Vernick, David E Clarke, Shaneen Megji and put a little cash aside all the time to do a course for your healing. I also recommend Dr Caroline Leaf who speaks on rewiring your brain. And learn ways to reset your nervous system. You can do this. You have one precious life to steward and God gave you gifts for Him. If you ask Him He will provide. Bless you 😢🙏🌹❤️
Why do they leave the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? because they do not believe the doctrine, are not willing to live by the teachings, do not know the teaching, or perhaps they are offended by someone, there are millions of reasons why people leave a rel We have the choice to live His Gospel, keep his ordinances and Covenants, and follow the Apostles and Prophets. If we choose not to live the Gospel of Jesus Christ we void the Blessing of the ordinances and covenants! Choices can and will condemn us or Choices can bless us for eternity! If you look up in the dictionary the term EX means to remove or separate from! they are willing to be removed or separated from Jesus Christ! Not willing to live by his teachings! Why are they not willing to? It is a choice!
Wait till you hear this. I dated a Christian covert narcissist or scoffers as the Bible refers to them. At approximately 4 months into the relationship I started seeing videos of a Christian pastor who's known for prophesy start showing up in my feed so I watched a couple of his videos. A couple months later another one of his videos popped up regarding this pastor and his wife getting COVID so I decided to make my first comment. So I decided to make a comment to him on supplements for long haul syndrome his wife might try. Now he had posted this video the previous week and there was a few hundred comment so I didn't think you would even see it but I thought somebody else might find it be information useful. In my comment I didn't anything to him regarding my relationship status or give him any personal information, but this was his personal reply that to me. He said, and I'm paraphrasing some of it but his first sentence was pretty much this" The woman your with is evil and you need to get away from her". Then he followed it with some comments about Jesus watching over me but didn't say one thing regarding my comment. Now that the time I wasn't even using Facebook so it was virtually impossible for him to know my relationship status. I could have been happily married and he wouldn't have known. He was spot on because I had been grappling with all things this lady had done to me and started to think she was evil. And then a comment appeared. The pastors name is Perry Stone. I had no idea who this guy was but I did subscribe to his channel and realized I seen him in TBN decades before. Anyways that wasn't the only supernatural event that happened but I'll have to share it another day because it's rather involved.
My former Pastor and his wife who talked out of both sides of their mouth by constantly trashing people. I and others heard some demeaning remarks said. My pastor would make jokes at the pulpit stating something and saying "some of you will get by next Wednesday". This Pastor could preach a very good message at times, but he was disrespectful to members of his Congregation. I prayed for him and thought the Lord was dealing with him, butt then he went back to his old ways. I walked out during a church service because he was at it again and that was the final straw for me.. It is one thing to have some rotten apples in the church, but when it comes from a leadership level it is very troubling. That stuffs trickles down through the congregation. I idid not like what I was seeing and felt like in was ln a " wolf den", between the Pastor and his wife and some mean spirited gossipers in the church. That experience did a number on me where I didn't want to go into another church, but knew that would hurt my Christian walk.. I now believe the Pastor and his wife were narcissists and were behaving like wolves. I forgave them, but prayed they were no longer Pastoring. Beware of these wolves who stand behind the pulpit. I am all for respecting leadership, but a wolf gets no honor because they will viciously tear apart the flock. We must protect ourselves and don't let these narcissistic bullies abuse us. I hope by sharing my experience, it can help someone out there. God bless you.❤
Why do they leave the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? because they do not believe the doctrine, are not willing to live by the teachings, do not know the teaching, or perhaps they are offended by someone, there are millions of reasons why people leave a rel We have the choice to live His Gospel, keep his ordinances and Covenants, and follow the Apostles and Prophets. If we choose not to live the Gospel of Jesus Christ we void the Blessing of the ordinances and covenants! Choices can and will condemn us or Choices can bless us for eternity! If you look up in the dictionary the term EX means to remove or separate from! they are willing to be removed or separated from Jesus Christ! Not willing to live by his teachings! Why are they not willing to? It is a choice!
@@user-ii8sr1yx7p You are not processing that I was in a wolf den that acted like a church, but behaved very Un-Chrisike, with the exception of a few sincere Christians who attended that church. I put this post up to WARN others of wolves in the church, Not to tell people never go to another church. No where in my message did I say that. Yes, I did felt weary about going to another church, but I do not condone abandoning the church. However, people do need to get healed of these attacks that do quite a number on young believers. Spiritual abuse is some of the worst abuse out there. I do believe to not forsake the assembly of the Saints as Hebrews 10:25 suggests. The great evangelist D.L.Moody put it well when he spoke to a young man that believed you didn't need to attend a church to grow and seve the Lord. They were sitting a front of the fireplace and Moody went to it and took one log away after the other until the flame got lower and dimmer. Then he turned to this man and said. "This is what happens to a Christian who does not attend church." That illustrates the point of not forsaking the assembly of the Saints. Also, Ephesians 2:10 speaks about the good works God planned in advance for us to do. Since ministry is usually attached to the church, one would miss their calling by staying away from the church. My.message was about getting out of churches where the leadership and/or many members weren't acting right. I prayed for years for that Pastor and his wife to get right woth God about their abusive behaviors, but I chose NOT to remain in that church because as far as I was concerned it is a poisoned well. No Christian should stay in any church where the Love of Jesus is not operating. BTW, I don't understand the reference to Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I am not a Mormon.
According to Google results, there are over 40,000 Christian denominations in the World today! So why? Is there only one Jesus Christ? Only one way he established his gospel! Only one way he organized his organization? One of the many reasons we have so many is because of what we call the philosophies of men! Amos 3:7, Ephesians 1:1, 2:19-20 So what happened to the Apostles and Prophets? Where did they get their authority? From the Government or perhaps a University of Philosophy! Where did the Scribes and the High Priests of Ceasar’s god get their authority from? What about 40,000 Christian denominations in the world today? Jesus Christ established his organization with his authority, his 12 Apostles and Prophets! Peter, James, and John had that authority! Study it out! Do your homework, and know for yourself whose authority came from where! It is Christ's Church then it shall be called in his name, with his authority! One organization, one Jesus Christ’s organization! Jesus Christ's organization is unified throughout! Choose wisely who’s authority, who’s organization! churchofjesuschrist. Org
@@user-ii8sr1yx7p Sorry, but there is no way there is over 40,000 christian denominations. Did Google nane out all these denomination? I affirm Jesus is the head of the Christian church. What I have a problem with is wolves at the pulpit. Anywhere you have a wolf at the pulpit, you have a church in jeopardy. They serve themselves, NOT Jesus. As you know anyone living for self is used of Satan since he works right along with the sin nature. These wolves are being used of Satan. The Bible warns us of them. Apostle Paul said the following in Acts 20:28-30: " " Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears." I am not talking about denominations or churchs breaking up into factions, I am talking about wolves. When we get to heaven will be there with other saved Christians from other churchs and denominations. We will all be unified there, but here on earth their will be different denominations. Jesus is the head and we are the body." You must know about those who wish harm on the body of christ and call it out or walk away from it. This is what I am talking about.
Thank you for this. I’m thankfully divorced but the damage to my self worth and identity was horrific. Yet to be believed was virtually impossible. A couple saw some aspects but not like I lived with or his first wife. Utter torture.
This is exactly my MIL. She’s not Christian she’s Jewish. She Has manipulated every one to believe that she’s a Saint including her son (my husband). But beneath that fake smile and and sweet “victim type” lady hides a dangerous snake 🐍
Yeah I was going through this crap too I just recently found out that she's a narcissist but I'm okay God on my side, you can't find a normal human being these days, you can't trust anybody! The sad part I believe my daughter is one I know her mother is one .
Why do they leave the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? because they do not believe the doctrine, are not willing to live by the teachings, do not know the teaching, or perhaps they are offended by someone, there are millions of reasons why people leave a rel We have the choice to live His Gospel, keep his ordinances and Covenants, and follow the Apostles and Prophets. If we choose not to live the Gospel of Jesus Christ we void the Blessing of the ordinances and covenants! Choices can and will condemn us or Choices can bless us for eternity! If you look up in the dictionary the term EX means to remove or separate from! they are willing to be removed or separated from Jesus Christ! Not willing to live by his teachings! Why are they not willing to? It is a choice!
Friend, this is hardest part of the process. I have been where you are. You have to put distance between yourself and the narc. Go no-contact - block on phone, social media, email. Don't spy on their social media; their re-writing of the narrative will incense you. Pray for your enemies. - Matt 5:44 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. - Romans 12:19
I validate your experience dear friend. I believe you. Sometimes hearing validation from a Pastor will help. So please look for Chris Moles or watch Official Proverbs 31 Therapy & Theology. If even one friend or one family member or one Christian leader believes you please build on that. God will NEVER fail you and NEVER forsake you and especially not in the presence of the enemy. Psalm 4 🙏❤️
You have helped me so much to heal just in the past 18 hours. It's only by God's grace I did not go mad in the past weeks. The person I was dealing with was all these things and I mean ALL. Today I'm celebrating a full one week of not having contact with her.
Yes I have to deal with one of these every single Sunday. You are being totally manipulated and used. They always want to be the centre of attention. Their actions never correspond to their words. They always want the last word. They are the greatest performers and love important positions. They have absolutely no humility. Many simply cannot even spot these covert Christian naracists and seem totally unable to deal with them. May we be saved from nasty covert naracists within the church and have true Christian pastors to strengthen the flock. Thanks for this video.
This is so helpful! So many people need to hear this. The lovey-dovey-dont-judge narative that has swept the culture in our time has made so many Christians practically hide on their holes, tongue-tied and neurotic for fear of being labeled judgmental. No, we must call it out as it is and not allow ouselves to be lead by the nose!
My ex-wife was the ultimate church going manipulative person. I am still dealing with emotional, spiritual,& financial damages 2 yrs later. I think that this is the most evil thing under the sun. She is still extremely selfish and toxic, and I pray for her to be healed 🙏 mainly for my son, who still has to live with her , part-time. May God expose all these wolves, especially in the church
Abba Father, Please watch over Kenny's son. LORD, let him see Jesus in his father, and turn away from the darkness that his mother walks in. Help him to have a true knowledge and understanding of our LORD Jesus Christ. Protect him from the wiles of the devil. Keep him from satan's deceptions. Shelter the young man under Your wings. We hope that he will choose life instead of death, light instead of darkness. As for his mother, if the wound is not yet incurable and the iniquity is not yet full, then please bring her to the pig pen, if necessary, in order to bring her to her senses. May Your will be done LORD, in this situation. If she remains in pride, make it very hard for her to deceive people. Expose her deceptions so that others will not become ensnared by the darkness. Love hopes that she will humble herself and turn to You for forgiveness and healing. LORD, You resist the proud, yet give grace to the humble, and we hope she will some day humble herself before You. In the meantime, please give Kenny the strength and wisdom to walk through this tribulation in his life. May his faith stand firm. Keep him also from the wiles of the devil. Help him to show his son Your light. We love You Jesus because You first loved us. We thank you for Your sacrifice that gives us this confidence to come before Your throne of grace, to ask for mercy and help in our time of need. May we bear much fruit for Your glory. In the name of JESUS. Amen
I was litteraly just thinking of 3 people I know like this a minute before this video popped up. Mother inlaw and 2 customers.. Ugh. They are the worst narcs.. Because when you stand up to them you look like the bad guy because everyone sees her as "sooo sweet how could you have an issue with her."
Right on but I think we're all narcissists Shades of Grey, some be darker than others, narcissists were sent to show you your own faults, cuz those faults will never rise to the surface under peaceful conditions.. teach you patience fortitude, resilience and love
Just watched your message and I’m convinced you’ve been talking about my Christian covert narcissist husband. Thank you for opening my eyes even more to realise that I’m not the problem as I’ve often being told. I prayed earlier this evening asking God to speak to me about my relationship with my husband and I know God has led me to your channel. So thank you Kris, you have been a blessing. I’ve also purchased your book called ‘Build a beautiful life out of the broken pieces’. God bless.
Why do I feel a sudden discomfort and become angry ,when my narcissist mother speaks of God ? It happens only with her . I don't feel this kind of uneasiness and hate when others speak of HIS words .
The Independent Fundamental Baptist church I was raised in was a magnetic breeding ground for narcissism and codependency. Most families had narcissistic fathers, enabling/codependent mothers, and a pew full of future victims and abusers.
