There’s Really a HUGE Problem with Toyota’s All-New bZ4X! | Grumpy Guy Review 

You are wrong. Tesla didn't invent the frunk. The VW bug did.

These guys are clueless in their complaints. Complain for the sake of complaints

The bZ4X AWD, here in North America, has a slower max charging speed because Toyota put a slower CATL battery in, while the FWD, along with all the Lexus models, and every single bZ4X sold outside of North America got faster charging Panasonic batteries. I assume supply chain issues meant they could not source as many Panasonic batteries as they wanted, and knew that Europe and Asia wouldn't put up with this crap battery, so dumped it on North America, perhaps assuming we were too dumb to know what we are missing. They picked AWD because that's 80% of bZ4X sales here, so they could dump more of the crap batteries and save the good ones for their overpriced Lexus, and for Europe and Asia, since they have better infrastructure and are more likely to realize how bad the battery is compared to every other EV on the market today, including cheaper cars like the Bolt.

I am a huge Toyota fan....having said that, who in their right mind would buy this pile of crap??? The name is ridiculous as well. No glove box. The range is pathetic. I will keep burning gas.

What in the world was Toyota thinking with this!?

CLIFF NOTES VERSION with my comments on each item from this video!!..... I can't believe people are still complaining about the same old things... sure some of them may be legitimate for some people but over all many of those things aren't worth having a headache about... See my notes on EACH item below. 0) The name. ... GIVE ME A BREAK already... it is what it is... and its different than most out there... I like it, better than Nissan Kicks or Juke, or Volkswagen Toureg or Tiguan, seriously? 1) No frunk..... This is just stupid, seriously, how long have been driving ICE cars now? and many of the FRUNKS i've seen are the size of a glove box! 2) AWD (in North America) has a max charge speed of 100 kW and shorter range compared to the FWD, for more money....... Ya, ok, i give them this one, hopefully software updates will make this whole charge thing better. 3) Only 250 hp, with 6.5 sec 0-60, fast for a regular car, but slower for an EV....... uh, who cares? I didn't buy a sports car. I'm really tired of hearing this... Oh my car doesn't take off fast! whoopedy doo! 4) Half of the storage of a RAV4 in the back......... I can't verify this, but i'm pretty happy with the space i have! Way better than the Prius I had and still better than my Camry's and Avalon! 5) No rear wiper......... SOLVED THIS, in fact, they built it good in the first place, ... in most cases it does roll off... in slow city driving not so much... I had a Ceramic coating done and it just flies off! I would rather NOT having a wiper... I have had my daughters wiper on her Prius just get beat up in the winter and then car washes. 6) Toyota back-up beep........ SOLVED THIS, Its a programing thing, there is a medium difficult way you can do it yourself, or you can simply take it to the dealership, have them plug their computer into it and turn it off. DUH>.. stop complaining about this... learn the tech. 7) Piano black plastic will be covered with fingerprints and dust........ I have to agree with this one! I could not get my PPF people to cover it for me (since they deal with water and heat to get it on and get it to stay. Still trying to research some better ideas i can do on my own... I don't like the Carbon Fiber overlay things i've seen. I want to retain the black, just cover it to protect it! 8) No glove box........ NOT an issue. Over it, never got into my glove box when i had one!.. The books and my Registration and Insurance fit in the middle console under the tray, easy peasy. 9) Big center storage interferes with manspreading...... Um, OK.. Whatever... No comment. ... works fine for me! 10) Driver display position blocked by steering wheel unless the wheel is dropped down low......... This annoys me the complaints about this too... 99% of people driving these will have this figured out.... Steering wheel down... Seat UP! I'm 6'5", yes, that makes it perfect for me, but doing a little adjusting will make this easy to work with. 11) No climate control buttons....... People are so stuck on BUTTONS or Knobs. Ugh. There are Knobs and buttons for this by the way! learn the HVAC system and you got it down. 12) Not eligible for federal tax credits........ If you are smart, like me... ha ha ha... you have this figured out by now too! It takes extra work to get the Tax Credit.... First, the easiest, is to work with your dealership and set it up on a Lease... I'm actually hearing many are NOW figuring this out and offering it as a perk... Some dealerships still won't do it though... the Second way, the way i did it, was to purchase it through a business and have the business claim the credit and pass it on. (this is how Toyota dealerships are doing it, THEY purchase the car, then lease it to you!) I didn't want to lease, and at the time, they had no clue about it anyway.

There are many sold here in Norway. And most of us love The Car. And i have had 5 new cars in 6 years, before i bought this. People who critisise The Car, most of them have never driven it

For all the people crying about lack of performance, this is not a bad thing. Young drivers and very old drivers having insane acceleration and high top speeds is a recipe for disaster (and insurance costs).

Toyota built this car to try to prove that full EVs were a bad idea. All they proved is that a Toyota EV is a bad idea.

As a BZ4X owner, I am grumpy as hell about the infotainment system. Profiles? PIN codes? Phones can’t connect? Absolutely ridiculous software, even with an update, it’s painfully bad.

The “bZ” stands for “Beyond Zero”. As in “beyond zero emissions”. “4” refers to body size while the “X” infers body type of the SUV.

We Toyota owners like this car, because we now we still can drive this car, even after 25 years of ownership! Most grumpy old guy's don't understand that !

So far I love my 2023 SOLTERRA.

This is Toyota proving the world isn’t ready for EVs by building a BEV people would hate. I drove the Solterra and I couldn’t get over that it was priced above $30,000. Under powered, under batteried, totally underwhelming. I don’t understand how anyone other than Toyota fanbois could drive one and like it compared to an Ioniq 5, EV6, Ariya, Mach-E. It only compares almost equally to an Id.4.

Considering this is from the world's richest automaker and that they're so late to the EV party and have had plenty of time and money to perfect it, this is a really poor effort.

What's not to love?! Other than more expensive, less range, slower charging, no OTA, less room and poor performance compared to competition.

It was just released and it's already outdated and not very affordable

My 4runner gets the same range.

Who would buy this Toyota when the Chevy Bolt EUV is a much better EV for thousands less and qualifies for the $7500 tax credit?

The only BZ4X I have seen in real life was a used one at a Kia dealership with only 1,500 miles on it. Someone must have realized their mistake pretty quickly.

That thing is damn ugly 🤧 Oh yeah also will never buy a electric car

I saw a bz4x and I have to say it does a lot better than the feminine , curvy, lowly and slopey, and catfishy Tesla . It's much more masculine and standing taller with sharp edges and higher ground clearance and inspired more confidence

Well Grumpus, I really like the bZ4x AWD. Let me start, it's electric.. I began this journey with a 2001 Prius Hybrid, then in 2019 a Prius Prime which allows 30 miles full electric. Favorite mode was that first 30 miles. Now the bZ4x which uses 8% to 15% of battery going 40 to 65 miles daily and trickle charges overnight to full charge. The only maintenance is tire rotation for 80,000 miles and I have a Toyota Dealer in town. It can get hot here in AZ and the battery has a dedicated cooling system. Battery warranty is 12 years. The AWD function is among the best you can buy, right? Now, if I could get an owners manual and a second FOB, both on order for months, I'd be set. Happy with my purchase so far.

I know people love to hate on Elon and Tesla. However, I think they still make the best electric cars...

Toyota is on their way to becoming the Nokia of the auto industry.

We have a Tesla Y performance and this car. We love them both. We live in the northwest and many times this car is superior to the Tesla. The Tesla wins with tech and power on the road hands down but this car has ground clearance. We put 245 instead of 235 on the 18s added a inexpensive puck lift. We have 9.6 inches ground clearance and all wheel drive. We don't off-road or overland but we do go on DNR land with it. Dirt and holes it handles it fine and doesn't bottom out or rub. The Tesla would need to be towed out of end up with dents all over the bottom and possibly battery damage. Plus you can use all the power whenever there is no revolution per minute . It's a dope car 4500 lbs vs Tesla Y at 6700. It's just different it's the hybrid of hybrid to electric

Disappointing car. I'd like my first ev to be a Toyota, but this is not the one.

This is a toy car. I am very sad to buy this car because its only problem is charging. First of all it takes long time to charge if 50% charged with level 3 it will take 2 hours 30 minutes. Then you have to keep the car at full stop which you have to suffer in extreme cold, heat. After that if you turn on the heat and AC then you can run the car for one hundred miles. So don't waste your time and money buying this car. thank you

Akio Toyoda was convinced consumers didn't want to buy evs and he made a car to prove his argument.

This is for people that hate EV'S. And that front end, what's with the front end and the fenders need paint? Also, for the price some must have more dollars than sense.

Toyota never wanted to build BEV. I guess they have build this thing only to have BEV in range for EV fans. Yes we have BEV... but as I like Toyotas this one I wouldn't buy...

The bZ4X has inherited the (unwanted) mantle of "Worst new BEV for sale in America" from the ID.4. Congratulations, Toyota! 🙃

It's really sad that toyota made such a pathetic car. Guess they want to have a going out of business sale with their hydrogen cars

This car is absolute shit. I drive drive this car so I know. Put about 20,000 miles on it. Throttling charging speed should be enough to prove my point. The stupid decision like that are consistent in this car.

Toyota is still not 100% onboard with EV. I am not a huge fan of batteries. We need hydrogen.

These guys went straight to the point ،charging battery issues plus price plus time you spend and wait to get charged plus 1 thing I tell you---> ether you must be 120cm tall or 180cm over to drive this car .some one like me i killed myself to bring it to the level that I see the front screen ,didn't work .basically the steering whel stoping you to see the front monitor.if U bring your seat up down doesnt work bring the wheel up and down doesn't work unless u bring a saw and get rid of the top of the wheel then you be able to read your front monitor screen😂😂😂.saw lol😂😂😂omg saw it .I can't belive Toyota makes such a big mistake .how in earth this design passed the standards ?😮.yet if you ask the dealer never tell U the truth delaers???haha no way . they don't tell U the truth they hide it man .they dont tell U that even u fully charge the car wont take u that far . don't buy that's it .

You have to hate yourself to buy this over a tesla…

Q: How many info screens work while wearing gloves? Or your hands are wet? Bring back dials and switches! The black portions of front end look like, from a distance, that there are body parts missing

Holy cow. What was even the point of making this video? Just say you hate it and it wasn't worth filming.

I agree with Nathan about the leg width. I have the same issue with the 2023 Rogue. It’s a very comfortable car but they made the center console so wide that you can’t spread out your legs if you wanted. And they easily could have adjusted since they have the storage underneath the shifter.

Toyota is doomed. Chinese, Tesla and Hyundai will bury it. The reason for the crappy EV is that they want to discourage people from buying EVs. If it was a decent EV, people would line up to buy it but since Toyota does not have access to battery supply, which are locked in for at least 3-5 years, even if it was any good, Toyota won’t be able to scale it and by the time it does, it will be too late and they’ll love 50% of their market if not more. If you need proof they don’t have enough lithium - see the limited suppply of the bz4x and the Lexus and more importantly limited supply of Prius/Rav4 prime, not to mention Toyota releasing a completely new platform for the Tundra and using NiMH 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

I so wanted to buy the Toyota or Lexus EV…was disappointed with both. So I sold my soul and bought a Tesla Model 3 Performance (the deal was just that good)!

Worst new car of 2023 hands down

Less range & power and half the charging speed than I have: I don’t care if it’s even half the price I would not buy it‼️ I’m not grumpy but a happy owner of an IONIQ 5. 14:35

Please keep the “grumpiness” going, everyone else are always so over enthusiastic about anything they review, it is such an great new way of showing what the car is really like. 👍🤗 Thank you guys for another wonderful review video, (as always). 🤗🤗🤗

And no glove box....who came up with that stupid idea. Open spaces at the bottom is definitely not the same thing

BZ4X is pronounced Bizforks. A perfectly acceptable name for this car! 😂

Toyota have bought giga press, so the next thing they do is beat tesla on quality and price

The front end "bumper" is way oversized. Almost looks like this could be a mini-snow plow. No thanks.

Why are these boomers so grumpy about this thing? The design is brilliant. Easy access to the motors and maintenance components. The Teslas that come in to our shop are annoying and hard to repair by design.

It's exactly what it looks like. It's a modified Corolla ICE platform. Pure panic move.

Charging is the big weak point of the busy forks. AWD models can only do 100kW max, and FWD 150kW max, but neither get near their max speeds. They even have an apparent 90kWh DC charging limit, where once you hit that limit it will throttle speeds to around 40kW. Its AC charging isn't any better. It only has a 6kW onboard charger. Every other competing EV has 11kW standard.

At least the Busyforks is better than the Mazda MX 30?

Starts at 42k? The one shown is 50k? What are they smoking?

Don't forget the ionic 5 which is way better

It's. Awful.

EVs do not need a frunk just because Teslas have one.

You're grumpy because you're old...

I will never buy this thing.

I don't like this car.

Toyota is not that dedicated in EVs They've already stated its a technology that's not quite ready for prime time. I think they made this car just to keep current.

I was told by someone with an engineering background that having slower charging in the bZ (and Solterra) extends battery life, as do the "buffers" on either end of the battery, which is why the manual says you can charge to 100%, because the 100% is more like 80%. So perhaps these EV's will be more consistently going 300,000 miles plus, and having many fewer early battery failures. I chose Solterra over Tesla Model Y and Kia 6 because unlike those 2 "wanna-be SUV, low riders" this car has 50% more ground clearance for deep snow and off-road driving. I have the Solterra and love it, the acceleration is already almost more than I can handle on a busy highway, and I like the cars lines over the bubble look of most Tesla's.

Get over the frunk. In ten yrs only Teslas and full size trucks will have them.

Not even sure if a Toyota loyalist will buy this car

You realize Gen X is like 45-60 right?

Grumpy old men, I think they made a move about you. That back up beep is only heard inside, apparently Toyota thinks the driver isn't smart enough to realize they are moving moving backwards. Toyota is proving with this car that hybrids are better, if you put just a little effort in you can squeeze 600+ mile out of gen 4 Prius.

It's an OK vehicle at best. A very visibly half-hearted attempt by Toyota. "They built an electric car for people who don't like electric cars." Obviously, that includes Toyota themselves.

Maybe its my background in aviation, where mixes of letters and numbers are common, but the name doesn't bother me in the slightest. Other things might, but the name is an odd thing to fixate on.

With the latest updates, october 2023, Japan mobility show, Toyota has solved all issues. Range is now 475km, as tested in the Netherlands. And cold weather charging improved considerably. It was testes with a few EV'S in the Netherlands, akso with Tesla's model Y. The bz4x was as efficient as the Tesla. Bz4x was considered the far bettet option above VW'S Id4 and Audi's Etron Q4.....

According to Toyota, the meaning of the "bZ4X" nameplate breaks down into: "bZ": for "beyond Zero" emissions, representing the nature of a battery-electric vehicle by going "beyond Zero" emissions, "4": from the equivalent-sized Toyota RAV4 and the. "X": describing it as a compact crossover ('X') SUV.

Mandate?? Srsly?

get on a diet guys

Just signed a lease on the BZX-4 AWD. There's some pretty good lease deals to be had (no money down and competive payments)... Doesn't hurt to be in Colorado and get another $5000 tax credit. I'm less grumpy to discover that the interior chiming during reverse can be disabled among many other customizations. Happy with the ample ground clearance for some back road exploring. I'll be able to live with the range and dc charging speeds.

Your phone isn't charging because of your case? Yes and No. Try it on every car you test, you will find it charges on Hyundai Kia and many others.

Another major issue is Toyota built in a limit of 2 DC fast charges per 24 hours. What this means is after 400-500 miles, you're limited to level 2 charging speeds.

Log into your car, OOHHHH HELLLLL NOOOOOOOO!

Ugly name for an even uglier vehicle, with _"....bankruptcy is nearing..."_ written all over it. Toyota should hang their heads in shame!

Mesh fabric on the dashboard is a non-starter for me. Pun intended. Will be cruddy in no time and impossible to keep clean.

Slow charging and short range. They built a car to prove electric cars suck.

And still there are trolls who comes with tha same stupid frase, did The weels fall of. There where 2 testcars where The bolt got loosend, but The weels did not fall of. They recalld 2500 cars, and fixed The problem. People buy Teslas. They have caught on fire, The bonnet have flown open. The selfdriving had The mind of its own. Most cars have recalls. But nobody got hurt or died in bz’en.

Let's face it; Toyota has created a very luxurious AWD 'Grocery Hunter'

Need a head to head Bolt comparison

BS

That care was 2 years late getting to market. They should have cancelled it.

if electric cars are so bad then why are prople buying them?? can someone elaborate on this?

This is an AWESOME CAR!!! You guys really have lost your touch.

buy chrysler great time for halloweenn for your pocketttttt

NO car needs a frunk.

Lmao I like grumpy Roman 😅

I think this is for loyal Toyota customers who assume it will be good because it’s a Toyota and haven’t researched any other EV’s. However, I can’t quite figure out how it helps Toyota to make such a mediocre EV. I do want them to make a better EV as I like Toyotas and I’m happy to have more good choices.

What’s the point of buying this thing? There is the excellent and far more advanced Tesla Model Y at an affordable price. No brainer.

These three cars are DOA

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45k for 220mile range ?? I’ll just buy a anything else

Well all awd use more power so stupid comments boys ... bad reviews as usual

Wow, that is one ugly car. And people won’t care and it will sell by the ton.

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That is the ugliest steering wheel and digital gauge in any car I have seen