Thieaudio Oracle and Excalibur Overview - $500 'tribrid' IEMs... because they can?

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Thieaudio Oracle: www.headphones.com/products/t...
Thieaudio Monarch: www.headphones.com/products/t...
Campfire Andromeda 2020: www.headphones.com/products/c...
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@terryRBNF 2 года назад

The Orchestra shout out was a pleasant surprise, I just ordered a pair yesterday and was glad to hear your recommendation

@lsim001 3 года назад

Love these walk about reviews.

@Brandon-qs3jq 3 года назад

Great scenery, Andrew!

@johnhayes8476 3 года назад

Gorgeous trails by you!

@msteele0 3 года назад

WOW, beautiful scenery.

@samyg123 3 года назад

How do DD & BA hybrids in this price range compare with the all BA and Tribrid sets?

@TomatePasFraiche Год назад

That backdrop is as blissful as the Oracle tuning!

@prabinpaudel5572 3 года назад

The new mangird tribid seems to be a great competition for clairvoyance. Would love to hear your opinion on those. ☺

@ezrabrownstein3237 2 года назад

Seems like a good addition to the mid Fi tribrid game. Monarch is "in your face," Clairvoyance is easy listening, and Xenns UP is prob the choice for bassheads

@AdityaSingh-tt4cs 3 года назад

Confused b/w Monarch/ Clairvoyance/ Oracle/ excalibur ? If I want 2 of those, one for Rock-Metal & complex tracks and the other for relaxed soft music ?? Which 2 would you recommend?

@NevilleHang 3 года назад

I heard the Variations is very similar to the Blessing 2... so perhaps you may need to seek the answer from the Mangird Xenns UP.

@Vikinguy 3 года назад

I don't understand why everyone isn't talking about Oracle. It's one of the best tuned IEM's I've ever heard.

@shonenjump9 3 года назад

Have you tried Monarch and Clairvoyance?

@jaroslavfricek7772 Год назад

What about the treble Andrew talks about , is it bothersome...?✌️

@Wingedmagician 2 года назад

I would love to what your take on the Variations as a Oracle and SA6 under $600 alternative. You mentioned it here in this video but I don’t think I’ve seen you cover it before

@drewbudour 2 года назад

Hey Resolve! 6 months late but great review! Have you had a chance to try the Variations? and what are your thoughts now?

@FabFeline 3 года назад

How’s the isolation on the Oracle/Excalibur compared to the SA6?

@zeissiez 3 года назад

Having heard tribrids like EST112 and The Variations, I don’t find the treble quality jumps out compared to BA based iems. For example, the Mangird Tea (BA based treble driver) to my ears, has more delicate and sweeter treble than both. Another tribrid the MEST II does stand out in expansiveness in the treble region, but I’m not sure it’s the tuning of the treble or the driver type that contributes to that. After listening to many hybrids, I find full BA implementation like the SA6 has a more coherent or consistent sound than some BA-DD hybrid setup. So much so that when I choose a hybrid iem, the first thing I look for is the coherency between the DD and BA drivers. Now I actually prefer having two sets of IEMs, one fully BA like the SA6 and RSV, and another with a single DD or triple-DD.

@fabiolopes5700 3 года назад

How would you compare SA6 to Tea?

@zeissiez 3 года назад

@@fabiolopes5700 SA6 has less treble and bass extension, the mid has better density and timbre. SA6 has more pronounced mid bass and Tea has not sub bass. Tea has bigger soundstage, especially depth, better layering. Overall SA6 is more rounded and smoother, pretty neutral but slightly gravitate in mid and mid-low. Tea is more detailed in the treble, and brighter in the treble, therefore leaner and colder sounding. But the treble is never fatiguing. The SA6 is warmer, thicker and denser sounding. Two very different tuning.

@zeissiez 3 года назад

@Lagunakid24 QDC Dmagic

@barbasour 2 года назад

I had the same impression & thoughts too at first but after giving it a little more time (a week+), I kinda dig the character of EST although it's not as "natural" sounding as most balanced armatures or hybrids can do. so I have developed a different opinion of the implementation of (Sonion) EST and a different approach of music listening after that. within my super wide library, it's easier to tell if the recording is great or not with Oracle's neutral, clean & resolving presentation. but it's far from perfect. I won't call it an all-rounder IEM either as I think it's slightly music types dependent (mixing/mastering styles to be precise). unless you listen to everything with open heart. but it does have all that mandatory sonic qualities of musical playback while being near-analytical and I find it very engaging that makes me want to keep listening to a different type of music or the untouched parts of my library every single time. so I discovered a lot more new beautiful songs once I grasp the nature of it. I think perhaps I'm so used to BAs' sound for all my life but I'm glad I tried. I don't know about other tribrids because Oracle is my first and I think it's a really really well-tuned set. I once thought that Sonion EST acts as a 'supplement' only to extend the upper-treble response. I was wrong. Moondrop Variations, Dunu EST112 & ThieAudio tribrids are using EST as the main source, the foundation of the whole treble reproduction. and I notice that UM MEST uses EST only for that extension job and I think that might be the 'right' way to do it. I don't know, but Elysian Annihilator exists. I also prefer having one full-BA and a single DD IEM just for coherency & dynamics (single DD). yeah, Oracle is lacking in dynamics too but it does tilt my perspective a bit. cheers

@mrfrosty3 3 года назад

It is hard to tell if the use of estats and triple hybrids is actually coming from consumer demand or manufacturers announcing the use of new driver tech to get the consumer interested. I think it is probably the latter. I'm less likely to buy a triple or quadruple hybrid or any model were a particular type of driver tech is a big feature. I am attracted to established tech done very well.

@johnhayes8476 3 года назад

Try the Mest.

@Datníğğa123 2 года назад

Estat drivers do make a difference though

@nonchalantd Год назад

gorgeous location

@overnightparking 3 года назад

Nature creates this amazingly beautiful scenery (thanks for showing it to us) and then creates horseflies. It’s just not fair!

@johnhayes8476 3 года назад

John Park is quite a tuner.

@YUYU-qv5le 2 года назад

Well, the EST driver does not handle the upper treble, I believe the BA is handle on that region.

@jaroslavfricek7772 Год назад

Crin praised the implementation of the EST big time in Oracle, and he didn't like how it's done in EST112, I wonder why he didn't criticize both....✌️ 🔆

@markreif1 2 года назад

How does the FiiO FH7 compare to these?

@dylfps 2 года назад

Were the shells on the oracle/Excalibur smaller than the Monarch MK2? Just got Mk2 and they are just a tad too big for my ear, and cause pain.

@heywoodx5353 Год назад

yes

@zeissiez 3 года назад

At a slightly higher price, there’s another candidate, the Softears RSV which has a more accurate tonality and a more accurate timbre than the SA6. It has more airiness in the treble than the SA6, but like the SA6, it’s never fatiguing. Overall, a more reference sound.

@fatdoi003 3 года назад

that's 1/3 more expensive.... another class of iem

@futoenjoyer 3 года назад

monarch

@fatdoi003 3 года назад

another one Mangird Xenns Up is popping up the scene as well...

@zeissiez 3 года назад

@@fatdoi003 Big fan of the Mangird Tea. I look forward to seeing some reviews of the Xenns UP.

@chillstep4life Год назад

Just out of curiosity where was this hiking trail at?

@romainpannier953 3 года назад

Thanks for video :) I have SA6, T800 and DK2001. Which you would recommend for fun in the Thieaudio Monarch/Clairvoyance/Oracle/Excalibur ? I want to buy a thieaudio and I have one shot for such a price ahaha

@TheHEADPHONEShow 3 года назад

Monarch for fun

@romainpannier953 3 года назад

@@TheHEADPHONEShow and to have fun with it, I must use impedance or without impedance is fun enough? Because I was thinking that Excalibur would be more fun and bassbead than Monarch

@keithb5612 3 года назад

Andrew.. Your job is literally "a walk in the park". I wish it was me there. I am 3 weeks in with the Oracle and have had no treble issues or complaints. I don't listen to jazz or classical genres but rock, pop, alternative, acoustic, EDM all sound pretty good to my ears. It would be good to hear how the Oracle matches up with the Clairvoyance in your opinion?

@fatdoi003 3 года назад

+1 for shootout Oracle v Clairvoyance

@AdityaSingh-tt4cs 3 года назад

You listen to Rock/ Metal & chose Oracle, pretty much I got my answer. Thanks Anyway ! If you could answer, you went for oracle over what ?

@keithb5612 3 года назад

@@AdityaSingh-tt4cs I don't listen to Metal. but.... Oracle was best in its price range according to BGGAR and Crinicle. Possibly better than Clairvoyance for some reviews. Hope that helps.

@taliosnz 2 года назад

Rock... How about metal like some djent or death - thinking something like the new Archspire with insane technical riffs?

@keithb5612 2 года назад

@@taliosnz The JQ Audio White Knight is seemingly great for your mentioned genres.

@rippedray 2 года назад

Would you take the Oracle over the kinera nanna 2.0?

@AverieS820 3 года назад

Any recommendations for an upgrade from the Thieaudio Oracle? Similar tuning but better technicals?

@nickpelayo3172 3 года назад

monarch

@linolingelbach2214 2 года назад

@@nickpelayo3172 mk2

@Romana1776 3 года назад

3:17 spiderbro has a way with words

@howequalspeace 3 года назад

Canada is beautiful

@bigjt37 3 года назад

So, you agree with crin tho, that the monarch still reigns supreme tho in technical performance, over the new Oracle?

@SoundWaveTrax 3 года назад

If only the Monarch was $500.

@RayanAbedin 3 года назад

Would the Oracle be a worthy upgrade from the blessing 2 dusk?

@mikeythanos 3 года назад

It depends on what your are looking for frequency wise.

@TheHEADPHONEShow 3 года назад

Resolve here, I really liked the Dusk but I'd also personally go for the SA6, Orchestra, or Oracle - partially for comfort reasons, but also I think the technical performance is worth the upgrade. But the B2 Dusk is also such a fantastic tuning, Crin really nailed it there, and the Dusk and regular B2 are definitely my picks around $350.

@heres_the_sauce 3 года назад

@@TheHEADPHONEShow I just got the b2 dusks and I'm not really jiving with them. I can't pinpoint what it is though, maybe the recessed mids? I actually prefer the tuning on the starfields. Not sure what to look for, any suggestions?

@samyg123 3 года назад

@@heres_the_sauce I agree. I tried the regular B2: great mids but lacking in bass and treble. The B2 dusk I found kind of boring. Personally I found adv sound Furai the best in this price range

@kylerclarke2689 3 года назад

@@heres_the_sauce maybe give them a little more time. I was disappointed by the B2 when I first got them. After a month or so I sold my starfields and kxxx and have no regrets

@kellyforeman13 3 года назад

What dap was that?

@willnguyen3149 3 года назад

Can you please review Euclid from Audeze?

@TheHEADPHONEShow 3 года назад

Already have, it's up on the reviews page on headphones.com. Can read it here www.headphones.com/community/reviews-learning-and-news/audeze-euclid-review-the-right-direction-with-room-for-improvement

@willnguyen3149 3 года назад

@@TheHEADPHONEShow would you be preferred euclid or campfire Ara within EQ?

@samyg123 3 года назад

How about the regular BA & DD hybrids in this price range?

@nickpelayo3172 3 года назад

moondrop blessing 2 dusk

@samyg123 3 года назад

@@nickpelayo3172 not in the same league at 60% the price

@barbasour 2 года назад

@@samyg123 Dusk is technically better in terms of transients than Oracle while Oracle has a better tonality, sound stage, imaging, separation & layering. Blessing 2 Dusk is really good for the price

@joopvandijk2383 2 года назад

How ridiculous would it be to pick the Kiwi Ears Orchestra over the ThieAudio Oracle if I wanted the most balanced sound for classical music (as in no bass or treble boost)? Would the timbre and/or musicality/engagement/rhythmic capabilities suffer based on your experience? Tnx...

@barbasour 2 года назад

Oracle is pretty balanced with classical. there is no 'weird' acoustic instrument timbre, as I listen to many chamber, orchestral, minimalism, contemporary, sonata, concerto, & modern classical with the Oracle. I can assure that it's very engaging every single time though perhaps it's a little 'lean' but not thin on the note weight. great imaging although not to the pin-point accuracy, good depth, above-average sound stage width, excellent separation & layering. it's clean, uncolored and resolving though it lacks microdynamics & punch. good transients response but I think it could be better. it's more a neutral than 'fun' IEM

@massivemikeh Год назад

I have the Orchestra, it is fantastic. Most neutral iem, with great mids.

@nicolasguereca8337 2 года назад

What iem is better than the oracle at that price point

@warfam_clan6933 3 года назад

I don't know about the review cos the scenery was too nice for me to concentrate!

@kkrhub9989 2 года назад

omg!. what a view.

@recode8453 3 года назад

in this video i want to.. "ahhh" 🤣

@LomaGnome 3 года назад

3:17 Antdroid's into some weird cosplay.

@CptMark 3 года назад

How is the isolation? Are any or these models vented?

@EtherTheReal 3 года назад

Every IEM that has a DD is vented, no vent=DD cant function bc there will be no pressure change

@CptMark 3 года назад

@@EtherTheReal Wrong. Where is the vent on ER2XR? There are lot od IEMs that don't have vent hole on their bodies.

@teachonlywhatiseasy 3 года назад

go pro?

@beegyahuna3743 3 года назад

wait so there's lime ears and kiwi ears now?

@johnhayes8476 3 года назад

I’m waiting for banana ears.

@suntanglory 2 года назад

😂🤣🤣You can have one in each ear, lime in the right and kiwi in the left.. The best music smoothie. 🥝😂

@ZefferZeffer 3 года назад

10:24 a little bit... bleurgh?😂

@deltadeka492 3 года назад

jfc its so pretty outside

@desg8087 3 года назад

I have a feeling that you wont love the Variations.

@suntanglory 2 года назад

In a few years time all these triple hybrid earphones are going to be 20 quid...

@John.Christopher 2 года назад

What are you inferring?

@suntanglory 2 года назад

@@John.Christopher My comment is self explaintry, not inferring anything, it's the law of demand and supply...

@John.Christopher 2 года назад

@@suntanglory by that logic all single and doubles will also significantly drop in value. Which is basically every iem

@suntanglory 2 года назад

@@John.Christopher My point is the chinese are flooding the market with all these earphones, especially these hybrid ones, in a few years these earphones would be everywhere for a penny basically....When supply is more than demand price is bound to drop drastically..

@John.Christopher 2 года назад

@@suntanglory I guess we can hope.

@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt 3 года назад

its too bad that best buy doesn't carry this range of iems and cans. Their return policy is so badass , you literally could try 30 pairs in a month and then make your final decision.

@gatobakuniano 3 года назад

I mean... have you seen the headphones.com return policy? 365 day to return them... Look at the links on the description

@1988remixx 2 года назад

Got my Oracles on 9/5/21, sold them for sale on 9/8/21. Completely disappointed based on all the hype they were getting. I’ll stick to my Campfire Polaris II’s.

@jaroslavfricek7772 Год назад

It mean i you love😮Polaris, Oracle is the last IEM you want, you should upgrade to Dorado...

@1988remixx Год назад

@@jaroslavfricek7772 I actually ended up buying some Moondrop Variations & love them. They have been my favorite go to IEM’s lately!!

@jaroslavfricek7772 Год назад

Great move congrats...

@letsmobiles3396 Год назад

@@1988remixx variation better than the oracle?

@letsmobiles3396 Год назад

@@jaroslavfricek7772 why

@sorooshusa 3 года назад

You need to put out your own version of a ranking list. Crin has Monarch rated S-tier and Clair A-rated. and im not sure where these two (Oracle and Excal) fall in his list. For someone like me that hasnt listened to many expensive things, i am trying to commit to an expensive purchase but everyone says they are all good. Well help me out here. According to Crin, the only S-tier one is Monarch. almost every other reviewer says Clair or maybe if you really cant afford 700 but for some reason 500 is affordable, oracle is the one. I really dont know which one to get. S-tier Monarch or A-tier and possibly cheaper Clair/Oracle? I need a ranking list.

@TheHEADPHONEShow 3 года назад

Ya I have a ranking in mind but... not everyone indexes for the things that I do, so that'll come with a lot of caveats.

@futoenjoyer 3 года назад

crin has ranked those two iems on his recent iem update post