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In this eye-opening episode of Radio Free Mormon, RFM delves deep into the tangled web of the Mormon Church's involvement with Tim Ballard and Operation Underground Railroad (O.U.R.). Despite the LDS Church's public statements asserting no official ties to Ballard's organization, RFM presents compelling evidence that contradicts these claims. Beginning with a meticulous examination of the LDS Church Newsroom's statements, RFM uncovers a startling revelation: on the very day the Mormon Church declared its non-affiliation with O.U.R., it was simultaneously scrubbing references and articles from its official website that demonstrated clear support for Tim Ballard and his mission. RFM meticulously outlines the timeline, revealing a pattern of duplicity that raises critical questions about the transparency and honesty of the Mormon Church. Through careful analysis, he dissects the conflicting narratives presented by the Church, shedding light on the intricate dance between public image and hidden agendas.
Listeners will be riveted as RFM unearths archived material, demonstrating the LDS Church's active endorsement of Tim Ballard and O.U.R. in the past. He highlights key statements, speeches, and publications that unequivocally demonstrate the Mormon Church's historical alignment with Ballard's mission to combat human trafficking. Furthermore, RFM raises essential ethical and moral considerations surrounding the LDS Church's involvement with O.U.R. He challenges listeners to reflect on the implications of this discrepancy, emphasizing the importance of trust and accountability within any religious institution. As the episode unfolds, RFM provides a comprehensive analysis that encourages critical thinking and a reevaluation of the Mormon Church's stance on O.U.R. He skillfully weaves together threads of evidence, leaving listeners with a compelling case for skepticism and a renewed commitment to seeking truth.
"This Is Why You Can't Trust the Mormon Church!" is a powerful episode that underscores the necessity of transparency, integrity, and ethical responsibility within religious organizations.

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@gigi1332
@gigi1332 9 месяцев назад
Five time Young Woman President here. Very devoted "Golden Convert " of 44 years and my life was literally shattered when I found out I had been knowingly lied to about EVERYTHING from the leadership of this church. They are horrifically dangerous on the lies they tell and the truth they hide. 💔😪
@h-deck
@h-deck 9 месяцев назад
That’s me too. Devastating.
@gigi1332
@gigi1332 9 месяцев назад
@@h-deck 💔😪
@nello1591
@nello1591 9 месяцев назад
​@WatchingwaitingG2D man you're just everywhere aren't you.
@Themanyfacesofego
@Themanyfacesofego 9 месяцев назад
​@@WatchingwaitingG2DLook at the facts.
@nello1591
@nello1591 9 месяцев назад
@WatchingwaitingG2D there was no point, it was an observation. Also, you've got it backwards in your other comment there. Those in the church are so afraid of facts they create websites like fairmormon and other apologists sites to try and give half assed explanations as to why the doctrine makes no sense and how history shows every aspect of the church is false. Who's ignoring facts there?
@gardengirl6636
@gardengirl6636 9 месяцев назад
Simple and bold! When will Mormon leaders learn that the internet never forgets?
@JOSEVALDIVIESO
@JOSEVALDIVIESO 9 месяцев назад
My mother used to say “if you lie once, you will never escape from keep lying because every time you will need to create a new lie to cover the previous lie, you will tell so many lies impossible to keep a record of them and you will become untrustworthy and your life will be miserable”.
@CutoutClips
@CutoutClips 9 месяцев назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rN97tqSwI44.html
@anthonymagee5725
@anthonymagee5725 9 месяцев назад
Everyone lies smh 🤦🏽‍♂️
@landon4278
@landon4278 9 месяцев назад
@@anthonymagee5725 everyone might lie a little, but for the most part, the lies are not foundational. Tim Ballard's lies were foundational to the mission. He lied about the size of the child trafficking problem, he took credit for what other law enforcement agencies were doing, and the story about the kid in the Sound of Freedom was an entirely fabricated event. Same goes for the church. Many of the church's lies are foundational, like when Joseph Fielding Smith hid differing versions of the First Vision, or when the church tried to cover up how polygamy started with Fanny Alger, or how Joseph Smith died a martyr when he was really in jail for destroying the Nauvoo Expositor which did nothing but tell the truth. These lies are foundational. Most other people tell lies to get out of going to a social event, or to spare someone's feelings. The lies people tell every day are ancillary, not foundational.
@JOSEVALDIVIESO
@JOSEVALDIVIESO 9 месяцев назад
@@WatchingwaitingG2Dif that is the case, then I will argue that we all be choosing the lies that sound more credible or realistic. There are people that choose to believe in religion… pity on them; I choose to listen to critics of religion because I think religion abuse innocent people, confusing them with fantasies and fear. Life itself is well explained with science… no needing at any moment to include any of the more than 3,000 human made gods, including the God of Christianity to explained. The Mormon church, full of lies and contradictions… it should disappear with all the rest of sects from this planet! Humanity will be free from this cruel institutions and it will grow as it should be.
@Max_Johnson
@Max_Johnson 7 месяцев назад
Since everything is probably on camera and recorded it's a good idea to always act with integrity so you never have to worry about something you said or did.
@spr00sem00se
@spr00sem00se 9 месяцев назад
As a missionary my suspicions were raised when they only let us read from and study a very specific set of texts. After that I realised that they never quote anything buy official church history, then you realise they change the history record to suit them. I saw this a few years ago when I read on facebook about women shouting when 70's were called to the stand, she was shouting to stop protecting predators. This was removed from all video released after the fact, you can still see security looking like they are getting ready for something, but all audio is cut, as was the audio on the translation i was listening on. Originally you could hear the translators flapping, then it was just edited. They change the history to suit themselves, and they then use excuses for why they do it. that is not trustworthy behaviour.
@ivonna.tinkle
@ivonna.tinkle 9 месяцев назад
The Mormon church never supported Tim Ballard? Like they never pushed Prop 8?! Never?!
@SteveSmith-os5bs
@SteveSmith-os5bs 9 месяцев назад
Exactly, there was never any support given for proposition????. It never existed, there were never any blood oaths sworn in the temple, they never existed. There is no Tim Ballard , we don’t know him, he never existed. Thank you for your support, obey or you will have never have existed.
@eneyeseekay
@eneyeseekay 9 месяцев назад
Right!? Just like how they announced the child exclusion policy in November 2015.
@sallyostling
@sallyostling 9 месяцев назад
​@@SteveSmith-os5bsthere were never any homosexual transition "counseling" at BYU either!
@rebeccacall7348
@rebeccacall7348 9 месяцев назад
Never fought against civil rights movement and painted Martin Luther King Jr. as a conniving communist?
@tori.rory.
@tori.rory. 9 месяцев назад
Not one red cent! /s
@davidabner8885
@davidabner8885 9 месяцев назад
I'm active and I call myself and the church by the name "Mormon" out of defiance.
@Songsofourown23
@Songsofourown23 9 месяцев назад
It's not easy. If you change your status or your mind there is love and support here. 💜
@davidabner8885
@davidabner8885 9 месяцев назад
@@sme91158 I did, for 3 years I was an angry exmo. And if it were any other unit I wouldn't have any reason to go, but my best friend is the branch president for the branch in my mission language here in SLC. We met up for dinner and I laid everything down, everything I don't believe and why. It was one of the first times I've had an interaction with a member where they actually just listened. At the end he said he respected all my reasons but that we were still welcome in his home and at church. I pay fast offerings but not tithing (well, one dollar a month 🤣), because I know where 100% of that money goes. This particular branch provides a great community for my kids with many third culture kids they can relate too and connect with their culture. Again, any other branch or ward with any other leadership and I'd probably be looking for a UU or COC or maybe even Satanic Temple congregation
@anthonymagee5725
@anthonymagee5725 9 месяцев назад
I can’t wait for the day that this gospel goes back to the people of color, it’s even mentioned in the BOM the day the gentiles shall reject the gospel God will bring it back to its rightful owners. You white people take things for granted and not only that you’re fulfilling prophecy, you’re definitely not humbled to see truth anymore and so quick to point the fingers at faulty men that are trying their best to keep God’s kingdom together. History is repeating itself, the biblical prophets and apostles went through the same thing, they were killed for it. And I’m black!!!
@antonolder5560
@antonolder5560 9 месяцев назад
Stay & take the good - reject the lies
@sme91158
@sme91158 9 месяцев назад
@@antonolder5560 But if a church is founded on lies and deception, what "good" is there to take? Don't people care about truth anymore?
@CandlewickLibrary
@CandlewickLibrary 9 месяцев назад
I wish I could make my extended family understand this.
@DigD97
@DigD97 9 месяцев назад
Yeah there's a lot of us that would like that with our families. Not for them to completely lose faith in everything, but just to be able to question the lies they're being told.
@chrissylisten
@chrissylisten 9 месяцев назад
Wow! Spot on! Just remarkable. Well done RFM! Thank you for all you do to bring the truth.
@hyrumclarke8213
@hyrumclarke8213 9 месяцев назад
Excellent work with this OUR saga-you really have a gift for reporting, and, as someone who has listened to every one of your podcast episodes, your news content (Jenn Kamp, Joseph Bishop, and now OUR) is some of your best work.
@uthinkiamhot
@uthinkiamhot 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for documenting the cult-"like" behavior.
@thomasgilson6206
@thomasgilson6206 9 месяцев назад
LoL. If it walks like a cult ...
@eneyeseekay
@eneyeseekay 9 месяцев назад
​@@thomasgilson6206 and if it cults like a cult...
@dianethulin1700
@dianethulin1700 9 месяцев назад
@@WatchingwaitingG2D LOL! Since Jesus was Jewish isn’t everyone a fake Christian?
@dianethulin1700
@dianethulin1700 9 месяцев назад
@@WatchingwaitingG2D The commandments such as not bearing false witness or judging others? What commandments do you think I’m breaking?
@TrevorThatBandanaGuy
@TrevorThatBandanaGuy 9 месяцев назад
​@@WatchingwaitingG2Dthat would be a no true Scott's man fallacy
@haroldwhite5761
@haroldwhite5761 9 месяцев назад
I think it would win Tim Ballard support if he were to denounce the Church for protecting predators. Remember when the Church told the world to call us mormons with a media campaign? Gosh I'm just too old to change now. A++piece, RFM thnx
@bsc78
@bsc78 9 месяцев назад
Except Tim is a predator too.
@haroldwhite5761
@haroldwhite5761 9 месяцев назад
@@bsc78 Yeah prolly but someone of his fame calling out the truth publicly like that could ACTUALLY help a lot of kids right here in Morridor.
@haroldwhite5761
@haroldwhite5761 9 месяцев назад
@@WatchingwaitingG2D The joke abt being too old was a nod to church authorities who are too old to change their pedo-protecting ways. None of my sins even come close to that. I personally suffered from several predators being around me as a kid in 1970s-1980s Utah. This is one reason I don't attend church anymore.
@dianethulin1700
@dianethulin1700 9 месяцев назад
That’s how I see it. The Church verses Tim Ballard and Glenn Beck
@dianethulin1700
@dianethulin1700 9 месяцев назад
@@haroldwhite5761 I used to think that the old ones in church leadership would die and new ones would be younger. Nope, they get old too while waiting their turn
@songbirdsorbet1028
@songbirdsorbet1028 9 месяцев назад
The article you posted is a valuable testament to the truth. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. But mostly, thank you to the person who sent it to you.
@keile513
@keile513 9 месяцев назад
Love and truly appreciate you and your work, RFM🌹 Love your scholarship, humility, deep dives and sincere, intellectual discussions!! And you’re so fun! Perfect groove!
@lindonesc
@lindonesc 9 месяцев назад
This church has had a tremendous amount of practice cleaning up its past.
@Max_Johnson
@Max_Johnson 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, but cleaning up the internet is a new beast that they didn't see coming.😂
@hanichay1163
@hanichay1163 9 месяцев назад
God does not lie. A church that lies does not speak for God.
@KnightlyNerds
@KnightlyNerds 9 месяцев назад
Thansk so much for this, things are moving so fast and there are so many moving parts as you've said it is hard to get all the information straight without doing hours of searching or watching 45min long or longer videos, this was perfect.
@gracebe235
@gracebe235 9 месяцев назад
YES! This is a point that needs driven home on MANY people’s channels! There are MANY good channels-but only so much time in which to watch/listen to them! Brevity is a virtue!
@dianethulin1700
@dianethulin1700 9 месяцев назад
@@gracebe235Yes RFM bottom lines it in a concise manner
@TEAM__POSEID0N
@TEAM__POSEID0N 9 месяцев назад
I've never stopped calling it the "Mormon Church" because almost all of their past "prophets" had no problem with it and many of them even encouraged it. Their world-famous "Mormon Tabernacle Choir" was named by the Church and promoted by it, as is the case with countless things within the church that were officially called "Mormon" by the Church. In other words, I refuse to play the game of Mormon Simon Says (the "Mormon Prophet Says" version) just because Rusty Nelson had a pet peeve and lived long enough to ascend to the "Prophet" throne to make his pet peeve official church policy. Rusty is not my boss and I also do not want to use 11 syllables when 3 will suffice and is a better choice for communicating effectively.
@pattykake7195
@pattykake7195 9 месяцев назад
Most just call it a “cult”….🤭
@eneyeseekay
@eneyeseekay 9 месяцев назад
​@@pattykake7195Even the one true cult. In Jesus name, amen.
@pattykake7195
@pattykake7195 9 месяцев назад
@@eneyeseekay 🤣🤣
@sallyostling
@sallyostling 9 месяцев назад
It's the book of "Mormon" for goodness sakes! How is it a bad word??
@dianethulin1700
@dianethulin1700 9 месяцев назад
Speak it!
@QuinnPrice
@QuinnPrice 9 месяцев назад
Rattle Day Snakes have a long history of deception. It's time they live up to their stated value of "being honest in all their dealings."
@rustyreview
@rustyreview 9 месяцев назад
God bless those who take screenshots. 🤗
@TheHydroponic
@TheHydroponic 9 месяцев назад
You certainly bring out good points, thanks for sharing RFM.
@williamcharles2117
@williamcharles2117 9 месяцев назад
They're so bloody brazen about it. You'd think they'd eventually realize that there's a record of these things. Not even deniable plausibility.
@eneyeseekay
@eneyeseekay 9 месяцев назад
Not even deniable plausibility. You hear that Bill?
@renesteelman6890
@renesteelman6890 9 месяцев назад
Right? Rock in a hat? “We’ve always taught that” artistic liberty? Someone show them this NEW tool called the internet!
@VetsrisAuguste
@VetsrisAuguste 9 месяцев назад
That was amazing! I particularly like your final words. “It’s the Mormon church from here on out”.
@Max_Johnson
@Max_Johnson 7 месяцев назад
Watch, eventually there will be a splinter group called The One True Mormon Church.😂
@andreatimmers1720
@andreatimmers1720 9 месяцев назад
Another excellent podcast RFM!!!!
@jeangarde841
@jeangarde841 9 месяцев назад
One’s lies will always be exposed!
@boysrus61
@boysrus61 9 месяцев назад
Did you see the interview Katherine Ballard did? I feel sorry for her and the kids. With the snap of the fingers Tim has lost all credibility and probably income. It's a mess.
@dianethulin1700
@dianethulin1700 9 месяцев назад
Sure it’s difficult for her. Just as it’s always difficult when someone’s family is thrown into turmoil due to illicit activities. It’s not a good enough reason to ignore Tim’s grifting. This could be the best thing to happen to her. Truth is Truth
@purpleslurple5149
@purpleslurple5149 9 месяцев назад
And wasn't she living off of these millions before all this came out?
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 9 месяцев назад
I don't feel sorry for her. She knew what her husband was up to.
@dianethulin1700
@dianethulin1700 9 месяцев назад
@@marquitaarmstrong399 I concur. I think this feeling sorry for her is a manipulative tactic to keep us from "going after" Tim. Tim is a grifter- period!
@JC-vq2cs
@JC-vq2cs 9 месяцев назад
The clips from the interview that Nuancehoe Carah played yesterday showed Katherine seemingly gullible & fully defending Tim. While that is normal for a spouse at some level, her direct involvement is much deeper. She is apparently the main target of the so-called "couple's ruse" - bad joke's on her. I don't think feeling sorry for her is the best emotional response. She highly profited & is deeply involved in the whole scam, she also needs to be held accountable. So much for doing the work 'for the kids.'
@acatnamedm4529
@acatnamedm4529 9 месяцев назад
The church has manged to annoy both sides of the political divide on this one. I stumbled on a brand new channel called The Sons of Eli Among Us who are outraged by the church's treatment of Ballard. They believe that the leadership are evil and corrupt. I find it most interesting that these current members are confident enough to put this info out to the world and show their faces.
@grantbeck9228
@grantbeck9228 9 месяцев назад
I watched those two poor dim witted sisters today too. People are so crazy about their extreme right wing politics and hero worship that they think their own prophet has fallen. It’s nuts.
@dianethulin1700
@dianethulin1700 9 месяцев назад
@@grantbeck9228Yep! I find it both hilarious and sad at the same time
@renesteelman6890
@renesteelman6890 9 месяцев назад
I found this as well, absolutely insane allegations! Traveling back to Benson and communism!
@username_undefined
@username_undefined 9 месяцев назад
Well said RFM
@sdfotodude
@sdfotodude 9 месяцев назад
Pathological Liars Lie, it's what they do
@davidsfuntimes9899
@davidsfuntimes9899 9 месяцев назад
There is viciousness behind those superficial smiles they possess. They have been deceiving for close to 200 years,from Smith to the present . Hard to believe followers are entranced by their guise.
@karlene69
@karlene69 9 месяцев назад
I’ve always called it the Mormon church & I’m an exmormon
@user-ol1ke8xx2l
@user-ol1ke8xx2l 9 месяцев назад
If they never supported him why was he a featured speaker many times at Deseret Books Time Out For Women?
@fordfairlane6580
@fordfairlane6580 9 месяцев назад
If they never supported him, why did church owned Deseret Bookstore sell his books. Of course now his books have disappeared from the bookstore.
@pathasathought2390
@pathasathought2390 9 месяцев назад
Once again a stellar report!
@daisymae4587
@daisymae4587 9 месяцев назад
I came here just to hear RFM say "penultimate" not once, but twice! Great episode. Efficient & effective in just 15 minutes. :)
@thomasgilson6206
@thomasgilson6206 9 месяцев назад
So , strangely, his first penultimate was also his penultimate penultimate.
@TEAM__POSEID0N
@TEAM__POSEID0N 9 месяцев назад
Wait... Are you saying that "penultimate" is not the name of a very expensive fountain pen maker?
@dodiehonzik2998
@dodiehonzik2998 8 месяцев назад
Exactly!! Have you ever heard anyone use this word correctly? I've not.
@egonaigner4757
@egonaigner4757 9 месяцев назад
You always do such great work, RFM. Thanks for all you do, brother. This story is important and Tim Ballard is just the tip of the iceberg with Church leaders and their chronic cronyism. I'm a deep insider and have worked in, with, and among many of top church leaders and their fellow business friends - and the characterization of Tim's relationship with Russell M. Ballard maps precisely and predictably to what I've witnessed for 30 years. Time, and again. Without fail. While I've always considered the Church my spiritual home and I've loved it - at least the healthy parts of it, their response to truth, and all the tomfoolery we see at every turn is nothing short of vomit-inducing. Tim Ballard isn't a rogue actor. He's a carefully crafted role player the Church has groomed (and thousands of Mormon business people like him) to do exactly what he did. They name drop, leverage influence, and work their deceptions deeply hidden in the shadows - like shell companies to obscure the true nature and order of things. The Church and Tim Ballard two sides of the same coin.
@andreadiamond7115
@andreadiamond7115 9 месяцев назад
Commenting to help RFM.
@wendyellsworth8443
@wendyellsworth8443 9 месяцев назад
When a Cult shows you WHO they are, BELIEVE THEM!
@Hatchification
@Hatchification 9 месяцев назад
RFM...youre the best. Thank you for this quick and thorough reaction to the slight of hand the MORMON CHURCH continually slimes its members with. God Bless!
@chrewtransformation
@chrewtransformation 9 месяцев назад
You are right, the church doesn't deserve any respect for how it wants to be referred to. MFMC is even more appropriate than just simply Mormon. And why give them what they ask for when they don't respect people's own preference regarding their pronouns and gender identity? They're a corporation abusing their influence and power on vulnerable people.
@dianethulin1700
@dianethulin1700 9 месяцев назад
I find Russel Nelson’s fixation on the word Mormon to be narcissistic and pathological. When someone corrects me on that in a Nanny state kind of way I just see someone who doesn’t think for themselves. Super absurd and I will not stop saying it
@arm30three
@arm30three 9 месяцев назад
@6:38 Praying for the kids is literally the least you can do for them
@anthonydurling4093
@anthonydurling4093 9 месяцев назад
Doing nothing is less than that.
@dianethulin1700
@dianethulin1700 9 месяцев назад
Praying is ineffective but you can keep a good thought
@Songsofourown23
@Songsofourown23 9 месяцев назад
Rebecca screenshot it, because she is awesome.
@eneyeseekay
@eneyeseekay 9 месяцев назад
Rebecca is awesome. She screenshots a lot of epic stuff.
@maxjenkins7139
@maxjenkins7139 9 месяцев назад
Great work
@julieprince5538
@julieprince5538 9 месяцев назад
New subscribers here and I love your podcast Thank you for being a truth teller!
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 9 месяцев назад
We Love ❤️ RFM!!!!!!!!
@JeffNealsPlace
@JeffNealsPlace 9 месяцев назад
I like the short format. Great job RFM.
@shelliepilkington1837
@shelliepilkington1837 9 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@ashleyvanblarcom6344
@ashleyvanblarcom6344 9 месяцев назад
This is the problem with having a policy of not admitting mistakes or apoligizing for them. The church wouldn't be in Hot water if they just said, Hey we were On Tim Ballard's side, we supported him and the good work we thought he was doing but recent facts (although no recent, some of these have been known for years) have brought to light the truth of Tim and/or his organization and we do not support him or OUR in light of these facts. How hard would that be? I think people would be more forgiving and receptive if they had released a statment like that.
@ashleyvanblarcom6344
@ashleyvanblarcom6344 9 месяцев назад
@@WatchingwaitingG2D considering you're being willfully ignorant and defending liars, cheats, and immoral men should you not consider maybe not being rude and listening to logic and reason for once?
@ashleyvanblarcom6344
@ashleyvanblarcom6344 9 месяцев назад
@@WatchingwaitingG2D also how has anything I said make you determine that my life is a lie? Because you're offended that I dared to have an opinion that wasn't church sanctioned?
@ashleyvanblarcom6344
@ashleyvanblarcom6344 9 месяцев назад
@@WatchingwaitingG2D Youre upse t that I got sassy with you so now your trying to up the ante, that's cute. I know you're dying to "prove me wrong" so go ahead...
@TrevorThatBandanaGuy
@TrevorThatBandanaGuy 9 месяцев назад
​@@WatchingwaitingG2Dso are you going to answer the question?
@TrevorThatBandanaGuy
@TrevorThatBandanaGuy 9 месяцев назад
​@@WatchingwaitingG2Dso all you have in insults and no real arguments of substance. Good to know
@bodytrainer1crane730
@bodytrainer1crane730 9 месяцев назад
"It's Mormon church from here on out." ❤️❤️❤️
@TrevorThatBandanaGuy
@TrevorThatBandanaGuy 9 месяцев назад
Right on our FM another great one. I loved your last point about the Mormon church and its name. I've said for years now that I will call Mormons whenever they want to be called, when they start respecting the lgbtqia community and their pronouns
@grandlarseny60
@grandlarseny60 9 месяцев назад
If you’ll lie to me about anything, you’ll lie to me about anything.
@glenmacdonald3477
@glenmacdonald3477 9 месяцев назад
Nice coverage.
@rockytreadway
@rockytreadway 9 месяцев назад
Great episode ❤
@eneyeseekay
@eneyeseekay 9 месяцев назад
12:45 "It's Mormon Church from here on out."
@kennethd.9436
@kennethd.9436 9 месяцев назад
if the church lies about what it does with its tithing, it will lie about who it endorses. I don’t remember the church publishing any sort of article on Sam Young, praising him for his activism, even after they excommunicated him and implemented some of the changes he recommended.
@24kennifer
@24kennifer 9 месяцев назад
I have a friend who went to a Time out for women where he spoke She loved him because of it
@kentthalman4459
@kentthalman4459 9 месяцев назад
The Q15 frequently rely on the gospel principle of lying for the lord has always been a crutch for protecting themselves.
@martinreidart
@martinreidart 9 месяцев назад
From someone who is literally in a centre in Thailand with young girls from 7-18 - many of which have been saved from operations that OUR have carried out with local police forces - OUR is doing amazing work and helping real lives and real young girls and boys - there is opposition in all things and really sad to see how the real lies are twisted to appear the truth and vice versa.
@bewitched3912
@bewitched3912 9 месяцев назад
OUR has taken funds from real operations and used a spiritual medium to contact Nephi while telling pretty women to do sexual stuff "to help the kids" and Tim chelated on his wife with 9 kids. Are you a true believer who doesn't think there's anything wrong with "marrying" fourteen year olds??
@bsc78
@bsc78 9 месяцев назад
Maybe OUR is doing good work, but it sounds like Tim Ballard is a predator as well.
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 9 месяцев назад
Tim Ballard is fraud and predator ewwww!!!!
@orisonorchards4251
@orisonorchards4251 9 месяцев назад
Proof?
@renesteelman6890
@renesteelman6890 9 месяцев назад
Where are the white American men flying to Thailand to buy children? Show me the 100’s of predators being arrested and I’ll believe he’s making a difference, why isn’t he in LA rescuing the kids? How about the airports in Texas rescuing the kids? It’s a con
@Liz-hr6hf
@Liz-hr6hf 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely brilliant! Thank you thank you
@laurabranson9549
@laurabranson9549 9 месяцев назад
RFM!!! THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU! 😂😂😂
@ChrisS-dt3vq
@ChrisS-dt3vq 4 месяца назад
Hey thought just popped in my head. Need to know IF the service you do inthe temple is also considered making money for the cooperation? Service is recommended for us BUT don't get paid BUT is recorded as volunteers money per hour. So ive worked years in rhe temple. Did they count that as my service job??
@lyndatracy2334
@lyndatracy2334 9 месяцев назад
Exactly!! Great video!
@2ndChanceTerri
@2ndChanceTerri 9 месяцев назад
RFM, thank you for your videos. I hope to share this info, but I wonder... how do you know the day this article was removed? I don't want to get anything wrong while "planting seeds".....I value your work. Much appreciated!
@Genesis-xd1id
@Genesis-xd1id 9 месяцев назад
RFM….you rock!
@renesteelman6890
@renesteelman6890 9 месяцев назад
Well, if they can scrub Moroni off the temples and logo, nothing is eternal. “What? We never endorsed an angel as our guy”!!!!!
@regenerated4life
@regenerated4life 9 месяцев назад
Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse! If 'Moroni' was an 'angel', let him be accursed.
@sallyjackson1873
@sallyjackson1873 9 месяцев назад
Liars gotta lie!
@ryanhollist3950
@ryanhollist3950 9 месяцев назад
On deciding to use "Mormon," I came to a similar decision some years ago about using the title Elder for the leadership. I see the title of "Elder" to be an honorific to describe someone who has the experience and wisdom to teach and lead. I do not see either in the leadership of the LDS church. I do my best to avoid using that title whenever referring to them.
@TEAM__POSEID0N
@TEAM__POSEID0N 9 месяцев назад
The sheer quantity of pretentious titles that they give themselves pretty much confirms that it's all make-believe and fantasy. They are "The Brethren". They are "The General Authorities". They are "Apostles, Prophets, Seers and Revelators". They are "Elders". They are "The Lord's Anointed". Rusty, Hank and Dolly are the "First Presidency" (making one wonder where the Second, Third and Fourth Presidencies are). They are "The Lord's Mouthpieces". They are "Special Witnesses for the Name of Christ". This "Special Witness" one literally makes no sense. So what? They saw the name of Christ somewhere? And they're special? And don't forget that they have the invisible "keys" to everything. Plus anytime they make a self-serving decision, they want to call their decision a "revelation from God". It's all literally a smoke screen of verbal nonsense. It reminds me of the Wizard of Oz handing out made-up diplomas and certificates. It's also the same ridiculous institution that calls 12-year old boys "Deacons", 14-year old boys "Teachers", 16-year old boys "Priests" and 18-year old boys "Elders".
@16960734
@16960734 9 месяцев назад
Cool vid
@gcarson19
@gcarson19 9 месяцев назад
Dayum, RFM... you're poking the bear.
@hanichay1163
@hanichay1163 9 месяцев назад
The church also removed all his books.
@lindahoward4639
@lindahoward4639 9 месяцев назад
Loved it!❤
@rhutabaga420
@rhutabaga420 9 месяцев назад
Well done, RFM
@susanbaldwin5454
@susanbaldwin5454 9 месяцев назад
EXCELLENT
@sagesaith6354
@sagesaith6354 9 месяцев назад
They took it down, huh? Oh yeah -- I remember now: "not everything that is true is edifying or faith building" Another example of lying with the truth -- a fine art elevated to some of the highest degrees by this cult.. Yes, the truth is that there are many things which are true which absolutely destroy one's faith in a false religion.
@caseyjude5472
@caseyjude5472 9 месяцев назад
12:38 I like the name of that song RFM!!!
@cctec-qp7xv
@cctec-qp7xv 9 месяцев назад
APOYO TOTAL A RFM, MORMON DISCUSSION INC, por un mundo libre de mentiras y abusos,
@eneyeseekay
@eneyeseekay 9 месяцев назад
3:33 BOOM!
@pattykake7195
@pattykake7195 9 месяцев назад
Don’t call it a lie…it’s more like misremembering…🤥🤣🤥
@cynthiaejiogu8442
@cynthiaejiogu8442 9 месяцев назад
Hi from Sacramento!
@user-fg5jf4mi6h
@user-fg5jf4mi6h 9 месяцев назад
Me too!!
@bonmamartine5178
@bonmamartine5178 9 месяцев назад
Exactly, RFM! Why take down the article?
@iamjustsaying1
@iamjustsaying1 9 месяцев назад
🎤 drop! Excellent! 🎯
@dl1130
@dl1130 9 месяцев назад
Spot on!
@wendellsurpr4987
@wendellsurpr4987 6 месяцев назад
If you lie you will cheat,and if you cheat you will steal. The three are connected.
@landon4278
@landon4278 9 месяцев назад
Tim Ballard was NEVER a CIA operative. He had an internship as a student. That's it. His professional career with government was at the border under the umbrella of Dept. of Homeland Security.
@TheCrossing2271
@TheCrossing2271 9 месяцев назад
I think he was a CIA at the beginning of his career in the government and was posted at the souther border because he can speak Spanish. I saw his interview on Tim Pool podcast.
@landon4278
@landon4278 9 месяцев назад
@@TheCrossing2271 he wasn’t. I was a missionary in his ward in Calexico from Dec 2006-Jan 2008. He was never CIA. It’s a lie. He worked for DHS. He speaks Spanish because he served a mission in Chile, then came home and studied Spanish at BYU and had an internship as a student, but it never actually turned into anything beyond the internship. People who work at the CIA at anything higher than an analyst don’t reveal that they worked at the CIA and certainly don’t go on clandestine missions to foreign countries. Anyone with information about foreign agents in a country with a potentially corrupt government would have picked Ballard up a long time ago for information. The fact that Tim can travel to Mexico, Haiti, Columbia, Chile, or any other country in South America or East Asia is indicative of the fact that his CIA story is bullshit.
@dianethulin1700
@dianethulin1700 9 месяцев назад
@@landon4278 That’s right. C.I.A. operatives don’t run around bragging about it. I had a friend from high school who was recruited by them and we never saw her again. Her mother was from Cuba, her father from Russia and she spoke those languages fluently as well as English. They also prefer people who don’t have families
@EliM91
@EliM91 9 месяцев назад
Bravo 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@ajadamsv9208
@ajadamsv9208 9 месяцев назад
Glad to see your focus in the direction of the lying church finally
@ryansgale22
@ryansgale22 9 месяцев назад
My Wife Katherine’s Take on the Recent Controversy (Rob Arquette Podcast)
@hbendzulla8213
@hbendzulla8213 9 месяцев назад
They are damn good liars and truth distorter.
@harvk925
@harvk925 9 месяцев назад
they are trying to do the same thing to the Joseph Smith Papers that show Brigham Young changed journals to support his sex addition with polygamy.
@Bigblue16
@Bigblue16 9 месяцев назад
Why exactly is the church scrubbing everything Ballard related??
@Audrey-km9in
@Audrey-km9in 9 месяцев назад
Looking good, the outward appearance is always paramount.
@mmmirele
@mmmirele 9 месяцев назад
May I suggest "The church formerly known as Mormon"? Kind of like "the Artist formerly known as Prince."
@boydpease4103
@boydpease4103 9 месяцев назад
Yellowstone fuse was lit in October 1988 Pres Benson
@lindaolsen3566
@lindaolsen3566 9 месяцев назад
Tell us more.
@boydpease4103
@boydpease4103 9 месяцев назад
Pres Benson placed LDS Church under condemnation
@boydpease4103
@boydpease4103 9 месяцев назад
Flooding the earth with the Book of Mormon Oct 1988 Saturday, Google it and find Gen Conf talk
@kristitimbrel189
@kristitimbrel189 2 месяца назад
Yep.....once I saw all the lies that I was going to have to wade through, the Mormon Church lost all my respect. For all of time and eternity, I will only call it, "the Mormon Church!" You don't respect me and my lifelong membership, my mission, my raising my children up in it, and my money and my time invested .... Once you don't show me respect, I will always only mirror that back to you! 😡
@ksummer6427
@ksummer6427 9 месяцев назад
12:49 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@dlariby
@dlariby 9 месяцев назад
Support could refer to giving money to, not just showing it on a website
@larryballard4475
@larryballard4475 11 дней назад
One might wonder if Tim Ballard ever would have gotten off the ground without the support of the LDS church. I attended a talk given by Tim Ballard in the local LDS Stake Center approved and presided over by the LDS Stake President. This was the norm. He spoke ubiquitously throughout the church in like manner promoting his books and linking to the religion in the divine impetus of the US Constitution tied to an eschatology that resonated with so many. Apostle Ballard of course set him up with the monied LDS who backed him. Could it have been about the money? Even partly?
@davidtaylor5189
@davidtaylor5189 9 месяцев назад
Amen.
@keki8388
@keki8388 9 месяцев назад
Statement made never said “never” (pun intended) the statement said MRB felt betrayed and he “never authorized his name.. to be used by TB”
@jcrook5904
@jcrook5904 9 месяцев назад
Fortunately, the Wayback Machine exists so you can find screenshots of millions of websites. Librarians know such stuff. Why wouldn't an attorney?
@cindyanderson8165
@cindyanderson8165 9 месяцев назад
Does an article mean support? What is the definition of support? Maybe the article was taken down now to not confuse an article as support and because they do not support him and I believe never did support him in the way you seem to be implying.
@TEAM__POSEID0N
@TEAM__POSEID0N 9 месяцев назад
The article unreservedly praised and lauded OUR and Tim Ballard, as well as directing readers to OUR's website and promotional materials. There was no hint of caution to advise readers that the Church had not vetted, examined or confirmed the legitimacy of TB's and OUR's claims. In content and tone, the article may as well have been a Church article concerning the activities of the Relief Society or the Church's missionary program. There were no standard disclaimers. In other words, according to the conventional and standard definition of "support" and "endorse", the article could easily be construed as a form of support and endorsement. Can we now assume that similar articles on the Church's website about the Primary program and Sunday School program, etc. are not to be interpreted as any kind of support or endorsement of those programs? Your logic seems to be as follows: (1) The church never supported OUR or TB. (2) When the church decided a couple weeks ago that they wanted the world to know that they NEVER supported OUR and TB, they decided to remove an article that was published on the Church's official website and had remained on the website for many years. (3) The Church decided to remove the article (without explanation) BECAUSE the Church realized that the article made it look like the Church supported and endorsed OUR and TB and the Church NOW wants the world to know that the Church NEVER supported or endorsed OUR and TB. (4) The Church, for years, saw no problem at all in having an article on their website that made it look like they actually supported and endorsed OUR and TB, but now that they have decided that they NEVER supported and endorsed OUR and TB, they have to remove the article that makes it look like they previously supported and endorsed OUR and TB, even though the article did not really support or endorse OUR and TB, but only makes it LOOK LIKE they supported and endorsed OUR and TB.
@TEAM__POSEID0N
@TEAM__POSEID0N 9 месяцев назад
So, to sum up, according to Mormon logic: The church never supported or endorsed TB/OUR. For years, there was an article published on the official Church website that confusingly made it LOOK like the church supported and endorsed TB/OUR. Now the Church wants the world to know that they NEVER supported and endorsed TB/OUR, so they had to remove the article that APPARENTLY supported and endorsed TB/OUR because the Church doesn't want anyone to be confused by something that looks like something that it wasn't. Okaaaaaaay. Makes no sense. But sounds like typical Mormon word games, deflection and nonsense.
@richardrobison
@richardrobison 9 месяцев назад
Has anyone just out of curiosity looked into whether there is any connections between the women accusers' attorney and Mitt Romney or any of his political associations?? Maybe nothing but I'm curious
@NerdyGirlLiveLove
@NerdyGirlLiveLove 9 месяцев назад
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