This Jet Has the Most Useless Missile in War Thunder | F3H-2 

The missile knows where it wants to be, based on the fact that it cannot get there

That moment when the AIM-7C literally has less ΔV than an AIM-9B -_-. In order for them to have even a *chance* of having enough energy to intercept the target you have to be at least like 5000m up to avoid the missile drag nerfs which hit the AIM-7C *hard*

Its so cool that a jet with no flares and subpar missles can fight planes that can roflstomp you if they just kamakazie into you with their aim9L with ease, it doesn't seem to be a win for anyone other than some points for the a10/su25

I've only gotten one kill with the AIM-7C in 50 games and it was on a 2km rear-aspect shot on a Canberra bot

The missile knows where it is - purely because i always leave it behind in the hangar - at all times

missiles aside the flight model of this plane is very weird. the loss of speed in turns is high, kind of like a mig 21, but once a wing panel gets damaged, the plane turns into a huge airbrake. a couple of times i ve had airframe damage (parts of wings orange or red but still intact) with engine providing full thrust and i stalled because of the drag. this is the only plane i ve noticed to do this

I had great success with the missile against drones in GRB. It's about the most effective thing I've used against them at that BR range since they're generalLee too small and too cold to kill reliably with guns or IR missiles.

Ive enjoyed this jet when I got it. I used it quite extensively. I rocked x2 AiM-9s and x2 AiM-7 I used thr AiM-7 on people who tried to run or out climb me while dropping flares.

Turns tight but bleeds speed faster than a BV238. Sustained dogfighting is out of question

Tip for dodging strela or chaparral missiles is to keep perpendicular to the direction where its coming from and to force it to climb and then to make a dive before it hits you and usually it wont have the energy to keep up with you. Obviously you have to pay attention to enemy spawn and watch for missile contrails

somehow, a sparrow was made that is worse than a MCLOS missile and a 9c, AND a 9b all at the same time

So, in my time with the aim7c, I’ve gotten a good plenty of kills, but I feel like that’s mainly people not expecting to see a missile while going head on with a demon from 5-6 km away. Between realistic and arcade battles, it has been feeling pretty nice, and there have been times where it has noticed chaff and then redirected to another aircraft.

I ot to throw some hands for that title.

Back in the day with smaller matchmaker this thing got downteired all the time and was a menace even with the 7C's, nowadays it's real rough to fly and you're better of with the 4 9B's

Letssss goooo you made a f3h vid

Another amazing video, keep it going Lee! :D

You can use rocket pods as flares, even works when countering rear aspect launches

I flew this thing before the A-10 apocalypse and absolutely loved it. The sparrows are kind of a meme now. People would totally underestimate this thing in a dog fight and head on and were often easy kills.

This is one of my favourite planes in the game and despite the uptiers and the bad missiles, i have fun flying it quite alot

I use them to Deny the A-5Cs the Altitude advantage. though I wish it had the aim-9C instead.

god's most consistent and easy to use missile probably not gonna bother with the F3H missile grind for now since I have actual material to look at and judge for myself, but at some point I should really try it just for the shits and giggles

So basically this variant of the sparrow along with the AIM-7E's are pretty useless to use in long range? Man, and then there are some former friends that pretends it's a long range missile. *sigh* "BUT IT PULLS 15 OR 25G's SO IT MUST BE GOOD" yeah no, frankly, trusting the stat card on the early models isn't really recommended. If any missile radar Missile I'd use around 9.0 - 10.3 , it would be the matra 530 even if it can get chaffed easily, but the longer burn time is so much better.

I was thinking of playing this thing just for the Sparrows, but now I think I'll just skip it. Thanks for saving me my money.

take this into air sim you'll be praising this missile.

Yo can you do a update video about the spade bonus. I watched your other video from December and I don’t understand at all

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the F3H2 might be dogshit, it's missiles might be the worst. But being able to kill people from 3km away while they're stall fighting is so efficient. More than having to spend 30 seconds rating an enemy on the vertical like it's the case of the F-104 or the MiG19.

9:23 nice dodge dude

If anyone needs BVR tips: Before I rant I’ll say the 7C’s are essentially slightly guided rockets and I hate to love them. Lets begin. This scenario is for BVR fighting a single target at 10km+. My recommendation for the 7C’s is to go into battle at around 3000-3500 meters, as long as you’re fast and below the contrail level. Smallest scope FOV, 93km scope scale (This concentrates the radar beam and gives a slightly stronger lock since the radar cone at 20km+\- is narrower at 93km scope scale than it is at 19km scope scale. Level fly until you see enemy climber contrails, lock them up, I try to get locks above 20km away so I can gauge their flight path (speed difference, pitch, course corrections etc). Now from 20km to about 10-12km is an essential part of using 7C’s, everything has to be set. (Ideally, they aren’t chaffing at 20km, and they don’t react too much to being locked, A lot of people ignore hard locks at this BR, at this distance, for reasons I’ll explain***) Use your radar to directly intercept the flight path of the target, the little line connected to the green circle should be pointing DIRECTLY down. This means if neither of you change course you will directly intercept based on all positions besides altitude. If everything goes right, and you’re leading your target adequately, the aim7C can reliably launch on and kill approaching targets at around 14-10km depending on how high you are. I’ve never gotten a 7C kill that was over 14km. I’m pretty sure the missile self detonates due to guidance time. Now, this is THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS ALL: 1) In a head on, never fire a sparrow closer than 10km. A maxed crew can spot missile and rocket diamond indicators at 8km. If you fire before 10km, the motor burns out before 8km, making it so that they never see the diamond. 2) use sparrows at contrail altitude! Contrails will HIDE your missile trail if the missile is launched in line with the planes trajectory. The motor time is so short, even someone looking directly at you will miss it 99% of the time because of the distance. Make sure to loft a bit for longer shots. 3) be your own bait! Nose up even more and fly above your missile! If you do steps 1 and 2 correctly. There’s no logical reason for an a enemy radar enjoyer to break off. (BVR at 9.3 doesn’t exist right?***) So climb higher. Above your missile. Give them the juiciest radar target they’ve ever seen. Irresistibly high target perfect for an R3-R right? As soon as they prime their missile and prepare to launch at 4-6km, they explode. All that being said, this plane is very complex and misunderstood. And it holds a special place in my heart. It’s one of the only planes I can have real fun in these days because everyone thinks is really bad, but it’s actually amazing, just compressed to all hell. The depth to this plane is overshadowed by the CoD style, get in get out gameplay of most WarThunder jet matches.

glad to see i was not doing something wrong, the missile just sucks. thx for video

i have been testing with this jet if you use mighty mouse missles they work as perfect makeshift flares

what do you have there to see MiG-17PF rather than Lim-5P, i would like to have hte same there but idk what it is

What if you just drop the thing from low earth orbit? The altitude should translate into speed to counteract the laughabke burn time

Issue is not just the missile but also a garbage radar that constantly loses lock. I wish they would give it a beamriding version as alternative. Swift f7 does great with those.

Its quick and nimble, give it some slightly better missiles or even just countermeasures and it'll be goated

Its funny that the Vautour 2N late has 4 Matra R511 SARH missiles at 8.7

I love this thing in sim battles though, the missile is definitely close range but once its done burning it can pull quite the amount of Gs. The plane is also capable of taking MiG-21s in a dogfight. By far my favorite plane in the US arsenal!

I think the best loudout mide be 3 aim-9b 1 aim-7c and maybe one rocketpot

They’re bad missiles, great plane. It is pretty satisfying to get kills with the 7C

nice content :)

it's almost time

why do people say either RUSS or US has worsts ornaments while the g91 has a AA NORD, a missile u have to MANUALLY guide it

It’s crazy how a MIG 21 is lower in br than this thing and the F104 classic gaijin logic

Shenyang f5 vid? great airframe but pl2s and hella uptiers

now with the real shatter changes what belts are you using in the colts

HA... Aim7Cs... I think I can recall one time where in one match I got 2 out of 2 kills with them with the Demon I keep trying to make them work but when you're a jet numpty like me, by the time I fumble around with the radar, I've put myself in a terrible spot😂 Any chance we can see some F2 Sabre now that the 20s work relatively well?

"See this missile is really bad, it says nicely here how it's really dead few seconds after launch then it slowly regains pull for few seconds, but see how bad it is, every time I shoot below 2 km, it almost always misses! See? Again!"

This is very good missile!

How about decoying an AIM-9L with rockets?

Its really funny how much better the R-3R is After about 20 games and getting the hang of it I was capable of 3 kills per game with it

Is it good in simulator?

Is Aim 9C on F8e much better than this Aim 7C? Seems like it

the missile does not know where it is

I’m planning to start researching this but is it worth it? You tell me

15g’s and a radar missile that’s better than an Aim-9E sometimes

damn nice tomcatters skin

Today's mathews birthday🎉🎉

There's a reason why this thing got replaced by the F4-Phantom II so quickly irl.

idk butt i think that the fierflash is a bit wors

Uh..that's what she said. Lol (opening scene)

Why is the Chinese icon turn into a mine icon btw? Is it a visual mod?

So you're telling me this is just a F-4C at a lower BR?

are you exited for the f15 by any chance

So, you can hit a plaer who's using Bot, but you have to know which one is a Bot :)

Good evening Lee

I just spaded this one 2 days ago lmao. Sparrows are just perfect to delete people that forgot how to brain, or alphabet soup bots.

this missile is far from useless, on the f8e (chadsader) it works wonders. i think its an issue of the platform being slower and having a worse radar causing you these issues. the missile is a look up missile only so you fire and then drop altitude to keep a good lock.

Nice.

The video I made on the f3h was pure pain

Nah i think most useless has to go to the R-3S on the premium mig 21. At 9.7 the AIM 9b but somehow worse is expected to fight AIM 9Ls

AIM-7C is better then having no AIM-7

You’re just not using them right. You have to get close to an enemy, jettison your aim7c’s and surprise the enemy with your improved flight performance.

I found out the hard way how stupid the AIM-7C is

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OK after I've spaded this thing: missiles are really bad but mostly because your radar is really crap. You have no shoot down ability so your target has to be above you and not too close. If he's coming into you fast there is a good chance missile won't be able to pull much cause this missile needs a time to start pulling as per stat card. In short you need pretty ideal situation and the target that flies relatively steadily. This never happens. I've taken them to 20 battles and I've got like 3 kills. Yea, they really suck.

real shatter ruined early jets :( the japanese at least are unplayable the 30mm used to one shoot now its like 7 at least and the 30mm has a super low firerate so its real hard to hit

me in my mig 21s r 300 with r3rs

Certainly the misssiles of all tiome

Give it an Aim-9C and it would be the best fighter at 9.3.

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AIM-7C очень хорошие ракеты, но только при первой встрече. Особенно с МиГами и F-84/86, они прекрасно их ловят с 10-12 км, даже не видя пуска И да, самая главная проблема Демона - Су-25, от Р-60 практически невозможно увернуться

2:08 no because your aim poopoo (loves of love)

My guy hasnt played MIG21S or stock grinded MIG21SMT.

Aim-7c literally worse than Aim-9b. What the point to place it in last position???

Aim-7c just dont lock targets never! Wtf with this missles???

Bro remember last night i met you! i was the p51h

Lee did you knownthe f4d could carry the aim7b Gaijin when 🥺

I for one have literally never gotten a kill from those missiles. Just take the IR missiles.m

this plane carries 129 mouse rockets. I just use this plane to destroy a base and a half and i get 5k rp+ per game. once i got 35k because i destroyed a base and 2 planes

im frustrated, first the trash f9f-8 and now this trash. what am i going to play??

Take a shot when RU-vidrs use Caveat incorrectly: *alcohol poisoning* It doesn't have caveats, you are providing a caveat by telling us why it sucks.

I disagree I recommend to players use this it’s fun especially in ground rb .😊

1:30 shout out to the f16 fan boy who thinks the f16 eats the f15 for breakfast. They're both better at some things than the other. But then everyone immediately goes "but it was designed to be the best dogfighter"

>most useless meanwhile mig-19/21 with only 2 r-3c with less distance of flying

That jet will dodge 9l and r-60 most of the time if you set up your head on at an off angle and you don’t use burner you can make it over lead you and pull the other way Takes some practice tho and a few deaths

MCLOS and SACLOS missiles are better than this thing. the AIM-7B is actually less than useful, a literal detriment to you flight performance.

f5 (not premium) or f4e ?

Was the aim7c really this bad in real life I refuse to believe that.

The F3H2 is life. Yes the AIM 7C is complete garbage but it doesn't care. The guns destroy and I have had the most success with this plane using only guns and it does this better than every other plane at its BR in my experiences. But yeah kids.... Leave that C at home trust us.