This Show Is A Joke | Sad Boyz 

dude jarvis ur haircut is tripping me out I keep thinking ur me 😂

i’m autistic and went to hook up with a girl over at her place and she said “oh you’re autistic? you’ll love this” and put on this show and we watched two episodes and then i made up an emergency to leave

Another important thing to note about The Good Doctor is that they work with and promote Autism Speaks, which is a really really harmful organization!!

Another weird thing about The Good Doctor is also that its not unheard of for a doctor to be autistic 😭

As an autistic person I completely agree with Jordan's criticism and I'm so happy to hear you talk about that! I wish they started hiring autistic actors for autistic characters instead of making actors literally mock our body language. And I'm so mad that they treat an autistic character as a baby. You can respect people without patronising them. Edit: Tw: violence, ableism also, the thing he is mocking when he is screaming is an autistic meltdown. A very painful and mentally draining experience. Having it in public can be dangerous and may lead to awful reaction from people around you (like violence from adults if you are a child or a literal arrest). It feels cruel and wrong to make an allistic person act out a weird copy of it and portay it like a temper tantrum.

Biggest problem with the show can be condensed pretty well by what Jarvis said about it early on - this character of Shaun is written like an autistic *child* not an autistic adult who has lived with autism for 30 years and developed a life and skills and adapted to functioning. The traits he displays are the classic markers of autistic children, which is why some autistic people still relate to them, but there is no way someone who hadn't grown and adapted to living in the world would become a doctor with a wife and children. The show is very odd not because it made up autistic traits but because they portray the adult man as if he is mentally a child, which would not ever be the case with someone who managed to become a professional surgeon.

I am Autistic and I saw a few minutes of The Good Doctor and couldn't stop crying because it was so insulting and spreads so much dangerous misinformation about Autistics. It hurts so bad knowing that Freddie even works with Autism Speaks. I cannot stop shaking thinking about it.

These two talking about their birthday always gives codependent twins vibes

The bit on autism goes for basically any disability. I remember watching breaking bad and being so happy that they actually cast an actor with cerebral palsy to play Walt Jr. Though RJ Mitte said he had to exaggerate some of his mannerism bc the character’s cp was a bit more severe than his. There are so many talented actors out there with disabilities that it’s stupid not to cast them for these roles.

The autistic people have super powers trope is so annoying to me as an autistic person. The new predator movie where they directly say autism is the latest step of human evolution. Idk why it upsets me so much.

I remember watching about 5 minutes of The Good Doctor and stopped immediately as soon as it did the 'autistic person has video game HUD when analyzing something' thing

i didnt get diagnosed with autism until i was in my 20s. one thing i've learned about our community is that we can be INCREDIBLY good actors, seeing as we have to mask our autistic traits if we don't want to be ostracized for them. thanks for talking about how goofy this show is

Both in undergrad (a bio or socio-anthropology class) and grad school (sped education masters), we had to watch an episode of The Good Doctor to list all the issues in the episode the prof chose and explain why what happened was either incorrect or implausible and how it harmed actual science and advancement in social understanding and acceptance of autistic people and issues with understandings of anatomy and physiology in pop culture.

So fascinating to hear about the good doctor. I’m 28, autistic and live with my mom (largely bc I’m disabled but also bc inflation/the housing crisis). My mom LOVES this show. I have just chosen not to engage bc I feel like it would melt my brain to watch or try to explain why it’s messed up. I also want to thank y’all for talking about autism and disability bc I know that (unfortunately) it can be a somewhat contentious subject

the whole “there must be actors with autism” there are! ….now… the FIRST autistic actor to EVER play an autistic main character was kayla cromer playing matilda in “everything’s gonna be okay” in ONLY 2020, just 3 years ago! the FIRST! and she did amazing and the show is amazing and shows so many versions of what autism looks like (which as an autistic person means so much to me) she’s also playing an autistic character in the new monster high cartoon! chloe hayden is another autistic actress playing an autistic character (quinni in heart break high) who’s a very realistic portrayal of an autistic person, there’s even a scene where she was a meltdown that was so realistic it triggered me into having one which kinda sucks but also love to see the realism lol

jarvis explaining the "I AM A STURGEON" joke made me audibly snort, i did not expect that

I was recently diagnosed with Autism at age 38. I remember being a child and reading about autism (I think I was reading an encyclopaedia which maybe should have been a big flashing sign). I was like oh that’s me! But then I saw it represented in media as being usually boys that had no friends, were obsessed with trains and almost non verbal (not that there is anything wrong with that). So I put it to the back of my mind for over 30 years I guess. It’s sad that representation these days is still often so bad.

the consistent bisexual sitting is great representation

there’s a kdrama called attorney woo which portrays autism pretty well from what i’ve seen so far. her hyperfixation is whales and her love interest listens to her talking about them

(speaking as an autistic) the thing with the good doctor is that it's almost unfair to call his performance inaccurate. *almost.* by which i mean there are definitely some autistic people who have "odd" affectations and postures, have a flat affect, seem "childish" etc. and there's nothing inherently wrong with having an autistic character with these traits. but because he himself is not autistic (and to my knowledge none of the writers or directors are), a lot of nuance is lost, and it comes across as hollow and mocking. like im pretty sure they just glanced at one symptoms list and ran with it without reading into what those symptoms really are, or how they affect someone's day to day life. and if they ever did look deeper into it, they definitely didn't look into an autistic person's perspective

These guys are really funny, they should make their own RU-vid channels

when you learn that the main actor for the good doctor is a huge supporter of autism speaks the clips make more sense - just mindless weird takes on autism that don't apply

Honestly, after the blatant ableism that was Autism Acceptance month (last month--some of my Autistic moots disappeared from Twitter because it was so bad), it was really great to see discourse where Autistic people can share their stories without all the weird questions allistics throw our way. I have never seen The Good Doctor, because I could tell based on the promos when it first came out that it was straight bullshit. I don't really have the spoons to describe the nuances of what's wrong with the portrayal, so I'll just say there's a lot of "Sure, but not like that," happening. Do Autistic people experience extreme ableism, including infantilization and hostility? Sure, but not like that. Do we often have strong emotions and meltdowns? Sure, but not like that. Do we have strange mannerisms that allistics don't understand? Sure, but not like that. Also I saw they support Autism Speaks so they can go straight to hell. Another quick note: a lot of Autistic people, myself included, find person-first language to be erasure of our disability, since Autism directly affects your brain and personality.

I appreciate the support you give to autistic people with the general way you talk about acceptance of others, the way you talk about autism and autistic people, and overall awareness you bring while not talking over us. Autistic people and ADHDers are in similar situations and communities, so seeing popular ADHD online figures stick up for and support the autistic community is wonderful. I have not seen the Good Doctor but have been told the horrible stereotyping and incorrectly explaining and framing autism. I would probably stay away from all media focuses autistic character(s) unless there were autistic writers on the project.

my shitty therapist story: the first therapist i ever went to was when i was 15 i said i was feeling a lot of depression and depersonalization he said "have you actually done any research on depersonalization? because that only happens to people with trauma, and you don't have that." this was at the beginning. of. the first. session. he didn't ask me if i had trauma. he told me I didn't before asking anything about my life to make me feel dumb for suggesting i might have a problem.

any one else weirdly impressed by Jarvis knowing that J was that 10th letter of the alphabet off top or am I just dumb? like normal people don't just know what number each letter is right? Someone CONFIRM I'M NOT STUPID PLS

growing up as an autistic person who didn't know they were autistic, i never saw people talk about autistic people with kindness. seeing more and more people actually learn and care about autism makes me feel so happy. we deserve better

Every time I hear someone referencing "black. white." I remember that you guys haven't finished your reaction series, and now that you both mentioned it I hope that "one day" it'll come, just like you said. 😌

Dude that's super hype to have the same birthday as your good friend. Makes it easy easier to remember or way funnier when you forget it's your own birthday

I love the Kurtis story because I just saw his reaction to Danny arriving in his WaterTok video and their impression is spot on 😂

the thing about hiring an actor who isn’t autistic in a show literally about autism, is that they always make a plot point on how hard it is for autistic people to be hired and find jobs. literally hire an autistic actor then like 😭

An amazing representation that I personally relate to is extraordinary attorney woo. The actress studied austism spectrum and it's super awesome at letting people know that everyone with autism is different! She helped me accept myself as I'm seen as awkward and blunt without understanding that I was doing it until people told me. I think logically like her and i love watching her stim bc it makes me feel normal and able to recieve love :3. The good doctor on the other hand makes it seem like autism is a burden and exaggerated in a bad way. I disliked it very much.

i personally want trans actors to be trans characters but if someone really doesn’t want to do that instead of cis men playing trans women maybe just cast a cis women like init’s sunny

yeah i cannot with CBT therapy. to me it just feels like lying to myself. like excuse me? i'm not just gonna try and retrain my brain to think happy thoughts if i'm sad. i'm gonna want to feel sad and learn how to work through my sadness. and the same thing, i just never felt like the therapists i've had have ever tried to challenge me to get better. it's just a very soft focus, "oh that must be really difficult" like bitch, i need you to be an active participant and guide me on my outlook and how to get better.

as an autistic person i'm really glad that you're talking about this. Really tired of seeing autism presented in media like this or being infantilized. It's pretty sad to see actors mocking us. It's shows like this that makes it harder to explain autism to people since they just go to the stereotype of it being a boy who has special abilities etc

as an autistic person i watched a few seasons of the good doctor a few years back. i watch most media with autistic characters because i am desperate for representation even if it is bad. the conversation on why most representation is bad is often misunderstood by non autistic people. a few people in the comments mentioned not liking the sad boys laughing at the clips of sean. there are lots of autistic people who have meltdowns very siimilar to seans, they can seem exagerated in the show if youve never met someone who acts like that before. similarly his rigid c3po style movements, and weird speech pattern are accurate to alot of autistic peoples experiences and we have been laughed at all our lives for acting this way. i dont think it is the place for non autistic people to critique or laugh at these portrayals and ive never seen a non autistic person talk about autism in a non harmful way even if their intention is good. for me this portrayal of autism is so off because its so forced and inauthentic, not because its inherently incorrect if that makes sense.

The stuff with the trans women being played by cis men is that it happens so often, that at this point I'm even happy when it's at least a cis woman playing the role of a trans woman (which is still not ideal lmao, would much rather have trans women in those roles)

No joke, this show is actually a big reason as to why it took so long for me to realize that I'm on the spectrum. My mom used to watch it, and with everyone saying that is was "good" representation, I just kind of believed it. I remember how thrown I was the first time a coworker of mine asked me if I was autistic, because even years later, this show had stuck in my mind of what autism in a person looks like. After doing research and hearing real stories from other autistic people online, I was floored by how deeply I related, how all these odd things about myself that I'd always just written off as parts of my personality were actually shared by so many others. Even then, I didn't truly believe it for a while, I was afraid that I was just searching for some sort of label to explain the parts of me that I'd never understood. Then my family got tested, and it turns out that three out of the four of us siblings are on the spectrum somewhere. My mom stopped watching the show shortly after that, thank fuck.

Jordan is sitting like a normal person. If you sit like a stock photo you are the weird one

I love how they treated the transformation of Elliot Page in Umbrella Academy because it mirrored their real life - they didnt just 'gave them a suit/dress'

First of all, love the pod! I can't speak on autism specifically but I have ADHD and I work in basically medical administration. The ACGME (the counsel that regulates training doctors), clearly recognizes that many doctors have mental health disabilities. You can be disabled and you can be frustrated with living your life with a disability. And you can also see positives, or feel connect with a sense of community (especially online). You should not have to see it as a "super power" or be told "you are so strong". And you shouldn't have to see it as something that means you are useless or be treated like a baby. This is something I had to learn for myself, including unlearning bad stereotypes. Basically, its complicated. It can't be summed up as "good" or "bad" it is just real life. And TV isn't always great at showing real life.

Ive seen black autistic people joke that casting allistic actors instead of autistic ones is "the blackface of autism" and i oculdnt agree more because autism is NEUROLOGICAL you literally cannot understand these sensory sensations if you dont have an SPD, autism, ect..

As an autistic person I LOVE shitting on the Good Doctor but it's become a bit of a minefield where some people are making fun of things autistic people actually do and it's like bro that's not- that's not what we're here for. Not gonna lie you guys were doing that a bit as well, with the laughing at the C3PO clip. Also the show supports autism speaks which is an anti-autism hate group.

A therapist I had for a while literally told me I should cultivate an aura of mystery. I still do not know what that meant.

I honestly really like the Korean Good Doctor (which I watched before the American rip-off was made). Yeah, some of the things they say about autism are kind of stupid, but so much so that you're not tempted to take them seriously. As someone who's on the autistic spectrum myself, I dislike the American Good Doctor more, partly because people seem to take it seriously as a supposedly good depiction of autism. Your remark about "kid-coded" was quite good.

Jordan, hearing you talk about your experiences with fear around immigration are really valuable to me. Even when you're doing everything right and above board, it's difficult to fully commit and plan ahead for your future when you're afraid you could get kicked out of the country at any point without warning. That feeling of impermanence is so real and deeply affecting.

The first US show to have an autistic character (explicitly autistic, not coded autistic) played by an openly autistic actor as a lead role was Everything's Gonna Be Okay. It aired for two seasons starting in *2020.* Ultimately it had 3 series regulars who were autistic characters played by autistic actors (and an additional occasionally appearing character). I really recommend the show (it's a fun comedy that deserved more seasons than it got), but it's absurd that it took that long for US creators to put autistic actors in autistic roles. But this is a problem that disabled actors in general face. Sighted actors will be cast ahead of blind actors in the role of a blind character. And unlike something like a career, where you can reasonably expect an actor to present an experience they haven't actually had, in the case of many if not all disabilities you are looking at something that fundamentally change how a person experiences the world. Disabled actors will be able to bring their perspective to those roles in a way actors without the experience never will. As the disability rights movement says, "nothing about us without us."

Kit Kats might taste better to you in Canada/UK because Kit Kat is owned by Hershey, who's chocolate isn't actually considered "real chocolate" by global standards, and subsequently isn't sold with the original (not legally chocolate) recipe outside the states.

theres a kdrama named "extraordinary lawyer woo" about an autistic woman, and its really cute and as a person with autism i did enjoy how the show went about it :)

I'm autistic and like many of my autistic peers in the comments, I wasn't diagnosed until adulthood. My mom loves this show and I honestly never even saw a clip of it before now, but seeing it now only makes me more certain that it's shows like this that have made it so common to view autism as only existing in boys, and only manifesting as 'childlike' behaviors/obvious social deficits. If this is what people without significant media literacy view us as, there is simply very little hope for anyone who isn't a little white boy to have their struggles seen. P.S. Jarvis and Jordan often use 'person/people with autism' to describe autistic individuals, which is totally cool and fine! But, you might also notice that most of the autistic people in the comments are phrasing it differently. If you're not super up to date with the community and the general sentiments around identity language, the reason why a lot of us label ourselves as 'an autistic person, autistic, or 'being autistic' rather than people with autism is because we generally view identity-first language as being more representative of our experiences nowadays. Not everyone feels this way, and it's even still the academic standard to use person-first language, but I just wanted to point that out as some information that people might not know. Thanks for reading, fellow Sad Boyz!

sad boyz making me a happy gal is weirdly ironic

My fav kdrama is extraordinary attorney woo and it’s actually a really well done, highly recommend. As an autistic person, the good doctor is quite hurtful in it’s depiction, at least for me😭 jordan is extremely correct in saying the dude’s performance is “fetishised”

I'm so glad The Good Doctor is finally getting clowned on, I have 1 friend who has been watching it ironically for years.

I broke up with my long term therapist 2 weeks ago for reasons similar to why Jarvis is thinking about it. But can we talk about how stressful it is to find a therapist that you not only connect with, but also has availability and takes your insurance 🙃

As much as it can be funny to make fun of the good doctor for how bad it is, it’s also just a really damaging show. I can only give my thoughts from the few clips I’ve seen (personally I think anyone can have option of representation, but the people who experience it are the only ones that can fully understand if it’s good or not, and as an autistic person I feel like I have the right to say how it is as someone who lives it.) the representation is just bad. Having an non autistic actor (and I assume no autistic writers) makes it so much worse as personally seeing someone act out issues I live with, especially meltdowns feels incredibly uncomfortable to me. We deserve good and correct representation, but we barely get any. Instead we get this which I know will not help people treat us better, probably the opposite

the only tangible person I know to watch young sheldon is my dad. It’s so bizarre because I’ve only known him to watch the same old shows on repeat, having absolutely no desire to watch anything new. this only changed around march when he randomly started watching young sheldon. it’s on the tv almost all the time now. I’m still grappling with it. hearing anyone mention young sheldon feels personal now

I learned a while back that sometimes companies will have to change their branding in other countries because of already existing brands with the same name. This came up when a friend (who lives in Canada) and I (American) were discussing our favorite microwave meals (for when we don't have the energy to cook proper), and we were comparing the brands Crave and Devour, not realizing until after he sent me a picture of the box and we realized we were talking about the same thing, literally. Later, while working at my grocery store, I rang up someone's Crave dog food, and it made sense why the branding would have to be different in America.

the difference in their sitting is really funny to me

TW: mention of se*ual abuse I cannot agree more with what Jarvis says at 41:55 - if you have a bad therapist, get the heck out of there. I was se*ually abused years ago and when I told my therapist what had happened (in a time when the event began to haunt me), she unironically said "you could try to see it from his side" and "other women would have enjoyed what he did". She apparently just tried to "open my mind to see the situation in a different light" because if I wanted to report him to the police "he would not be found guilty" because I "didn't say 'no'" (I was half-asleep when it happened). Totally not cool. It was not about me and my feelings anymore but about what the abuser thought, felt and wanted. Like, I know what he wanted, I don't need you to tell me that. I need you to listen to me and help me to deal with that had happened. Not give me legal advice I did not ask for.

About the Ozempic thing: my grandma is diabetic, and she had to like wait MONTHS to even have a meeting about getting a prescription. And it’s only because she’s still working that she had health insurance to cover the price, because she was telling me that she wouldn’t be able to afford it otherwise. But she ended up getting the prescription and I’m pretty sure it’s working great for her

i feel like i have to share this because i have a very similar experience to you guys when you worked for patreon. i had a girl in high school who everyone spoke to me about because we were "so similar" and it turned out we were just both jewish and had L names and the same birthday. it's a very niche experience but i feel i can relate to you guys on that level.

they're such silly lil guys i adore it

Still wondering when my autistic super powers will kick in. So far all I've gotten is an extreme sensitivity to textures of wet things and the inability to shut up about the Restoration Era. Not sure those can be considered "superpowers."

The political ad satire can’t be peeked after Clone High. “Last year Abe said he was 15 years old, now he says he’s 16. Which is Abe better keep your story straight”

Im a late diagnosed autistic person, and i gotta say shows like the good doctor (which i didnt watch but have been aware of for a long time) definitely prevented me from recognising that i am autistic and seeking out an assessment. In fact due to shows like the good doctor my perception of autism was so warped and i held so many slightly ablest ideas without even recognising it that when my therapist brought up that i might be autistic i freaked out. My line of thought was completely shrouded by influences like the good doctor where i believed i couldnt possibly be autistic because i wasnt like shaun or like sam from atypical. The journey of unlearning those misconceptions through research and diagnosis (while my research is still ongoing as autism isnt the monolith these shows portray, so theres always more to learn) have helped me better understand myself, and shows like this prevented it from happening sooner

Just a heads up, the general consensus in the #actuallyautistic community is identity first language, not person first language. So we prefer "autistic person" instead of "person with autism". I know a lot of people have been taught the other way around so I just wanted to educate.

no shade to other liscenced mental health professinals, but the psychotherapy provided by clinical psychologists is waaaaay more effective for people with diagnosable conditions like mood disorders or personality disorders. regular talk therapy and cognitive-behavioral therapy are great for people who just need someone to check in with now and again to work through regular interpersonal issues or major life events - but, if a person has clinical depression and debilitating anxiety or wants to learn how to grow as a person while developing healthy coping mechanisms to deal with symptoms related to their diagnosis, regular talk therapy and CBT just aren't gonna cut it. to anyone reading this, there's nothing wrong with switching therapists until you find a mental health professional that has the right tools that enable you to help yourself live your best life!

The actor’s movements are wild for sure, but sometimes when trying to mask (aka seem non-autistic) we overcorrect and then our body language/movements come across so strange

i need to say how much i appreciate and respect you both for being open about your emotions as men. not a lot of people are showing examples of healthy male friendships and what you’re doing is so so important

My wife binges the good doctor. I made jokes about how bad the show was so much that if she's watching it when I get home she immediately switches it to a different show. I'm not proud of my behavior, but also not mad at the results...

My mom is a physician’s assistant and a former respiratory therapist and my dad is an infectious diseases doctor and they laugh hysterically every time the long side effects come on. They are so long and every one has depression, suicidal thoughts or actions, some type of bowel side effects.. just everything.

your description of Kurtis' non visual reaction to things he feels strongly on is a hilariously more accurate depiction of what autism is actually like in a lot of people than The Good Doctor is. (Not saying Kurtis is or isn't autistic, but that sort of muted facial expression or tone of voice is a really common trait in autistic folk, I have a really expressive face but a really flat voice so everything I say runs the risk of seeming sarcastic because I say it really flat but my face is like lots of raised eyebrows and stupid goofy faces so it seems like I'm joking about all things)

I do need everyone to know that Ozempic ripped off an actual song from the 60s that goes "oh oh oh it's magic you know"

came for the sad boyz stayed for the clowning on the good doctor my thoughts on the good doctor as an autistic person: it's like they did their "research" on autistic ppl via tv tropes. they took everything that pisses me off about autistic representation in media and stuck it in that show. i watched maybe a quarter of the first episode and i was like: yeah, fuck no. here's a list of everything wrong from what i've heard: - infantilization of autistic ppl - treating autism as a superpower (and very literally giving him superpowers. like omfg) - literally no one treats him like a normal person. it's like "how are you on this fine day autistic friend who has a terrible case of the autism. how's the autism today? is it fair like the weather? tell me about your, what do you call it? special interest? do you like trains and dinosaurs like my autistic nephew?" - over-exaggeration of autistic traits (like irregular inflection/tone i can let slide, but the robotic movements? really? just make him a fucking robot at this point) - treating ableism as a plot device rather than like a genuine problem that needs to be addressed (it would be fine if it was one character that gets dunked on later imo. but it's every other person like jordan said) - every autistic trait he has is a stereotype - they bring his autism into the conversation when it is absolutely unnecessary - they hired an allistic (non-autistic) actor if you'd like to see one of the better representations of an autistic person that i've seen on tv, i'd recommend extraordinary attorney woo. don't get me wrong, it's not a perfect show, but they actually put thought and care into the portrayal of woo youngwoo. it can be a little exaggerated at points and sometimes it feels like they're making her out to be a funny quirky caricature, but most of the time, they rectify this with the way they bring up the discussion of ableism and how autism affects her positively AND negatively. also there's a cute little romantic side plot where the love interest treats her normally(!!!!) and actually communicates with her properly outside of his momentary fits of worry/panic. anyway, if you're interested, it's on netflix :-)

Lest we forget Sia’s “autism awareness “ movie Music. It was very bad if I can say the least

these two have extraordinary vibes. i could listen to themtalk about literally anything together

*cue me sobbing bc the subtitles aren’t working*

A recent example of good autistic representation, there's a K drama called extraordinary attorney woo, Woo is an autistic lawyer. Though the actress who plays her isn't autistic, as a fellow afab person on the spectrum, I really found her portrayal empowering. She faces discrimination in her workplace, she makes mistakes and stands to correct them. Usually with autistic rep I've seen is the character is either a caricature to be laughed at or an ingenious, cold, stubborn, robot. Woo's character is sympathetic not just because she's on the spectrum, but also because she wants to be a good lawyer and make connections with people. Iconic girl boss fr.

As a therapist I always really enjoy hearing you guys talk about your therapy journeys. Love to hear what you both find beneficial and less so

I get that this show may be problematic, but a big part of the discourse I've seen around this meme is just people making fun of the fact that autistic people can sometimes have meltdowns.

It's insane because I genuinely loved him as an actor until this. August Rush was one of my favorite movies for a long time. He was great in Bates Motel too.

I'm autistic and like watching the good doctor but it might be because I've watched it since it first came out so I made some sort of connection to the characters? idk but I've definitely had a lot of internal critiques on the show throughout watching it, especially in the last few years as I have grown up and gained more knowledge of the world and autism/disabilities. there are a lot of scenes that make me really uncomfortable, but there are some good ones in there too. overall, I don't think I'd like the show if I didn't start watching it as a young teenager. I've never liked what they did with his voice, nor have I liked the way they infantilize him constantly. the portrayals of ableism are pretty decent though and capture things that are very real and unrecognized amongst the general abled population. I don't think it's a good show (even tho I like watching it) because it mocks autistic people and furthers stigmas against us. I honestly wouldn't recommend any autistic people watch it because it can be so triggering. TL;DR: I only like it bc I'm attached to the characters, and I don't suggest watching it if you're new because it can be super triggering. there's a lot of infantilization and mockery in it edit: something that has pissed me off since I first found out about it (like 2 seasons in) is the fact he's not autistic at all and I'm pretty sure there aren't any autistics on set either and there totally could be but they most likely did that on purpose

jarvis's danny and kurtis impressions are spot on 😂

21:56 the actor isn’t even autistic, that’s what really irritates me about the show, also the ‘autistic genius but still mentally a child’ trope. HIRE AUTISTIC ACTORS IF YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO TELL STORIES ABOUT AUTISM AND MAKE THEM REALISTIC, omfggg. I show a lottt of autistic traits and this show is just plain offensive and fucked up

Ozempic is great for diabetics. It actually got my sugars under control and helped my insulin resistance to the point that I can just take my metformin and stay in optimal levels

As someone who's autistic, alongside other neurodivergencies: Holy shit the good doctor makes me even more uncomfy than Sheldon from Big Bang Theory.

Omg Jarvis just articulated why I’ve been feeling very meh about my therapist too! I’ve been struggling to pinpoint what it is so thank you!!

my parents watch the good doctor and they have TWO autistic kids. the show is crazy popular

as an autistic person, the good doctor is so insulting and such a stereotype. i watched it before realizing i was autistic and and i couldn’t relate to anything, i didn’t see myself even in one bit. it really is a crime. if a autistic person for real acted like this, they would get detained and hurt

The caramel kit-kat in London was game changing. I don't like kit-kat but I loved that one.

A show that i really loved and i think has good representation of Autism was Extraordinary Attorney Woo Young Woo. I think what i really loved about it is that it didnt have any Infantilization of Woo Young Woos charater and allowed her to just be herself. Idk it was just nice to see a grown person with autism in a show not be spoken down to by her coworkers or clients. Also her special interest was in whales which was v cool to hear her talk about whale facts🐋🐳. Idk ive seen ppl have their criticisms of that show too(which is valid. Not everything is for everyone of course.). But personally I enjoyed it🤷🏻

I've only seen ads for the show but when I first saw them I just assumed it was advertising the UK on-demand release of a show from the 2000s and mentally brushed it off. It's deeply disturbing to me that such an antiquated portrayal of ASD is still coming out in present day. The neurotypical view of ASD continues to be extremely dehumanising. Don't know why I'm so surprised tbh

Watching after having a manic episode that made my family P ANIC... thanks for giving me a moment to breathe and focus💜 I appreciate the space you create

The birds chirping was giving y’all Disney princess waking up in the morning energy

Just found this podcast/channel and i really adore the rang of topics you two (plus occasional guest) cover with both humour and thoughtfulness. the conversations feel very sincere and are really lovely to listen to

an unsolicited autistic view on the other show you mentioned: extraordinary attorney woo i actually really enjoy the show!! i know it’s not for everyone but i think the actor does an AMAZING job in her role! if you’re into law, i’d recommend it. there are some things that are kinda cringe/a bit much but overall i think for the time, it’s good representation wise!! also, it’s about an autistic attorney who finds her way through her field. she is a savant but they do bring that up and how not all autistic people are the same and how there’s nothing wrong with not being a savant or being a savant! cool show overall!!

I don't know if it's just me but every time they plug the patreon it makes me extremely sad that I'm not fortunate enough to have enough money to watch it

Not every therapist is for everybody. I had a therapist who believed in completing therapy. He helped me change my viewpoint so that I have less negative spiraling and have real coping techniques and frameworks for reflection that are not self destructive. I still am me. I still have bad days and stress and negative thoughts. But I have such an improved quality of life. I only say this to let folks know, this is one possibility depending on the patient and the therapist. If you are seeking progress and you aren't getting it, don't be afraid to change. That said, I personally felt little progress for 8 months and then it hit all at once. I think we all know it won't all get better right away.

I’m sick rn just going through your videos and it’s helping me not panic about being sick, thank you two xx

I had a shitty therapist, literally only saw her once because she suggested I “pray away” my depression- when I told her I’m not religious and I’m not really comfortable with that she was like “well you should be”