@@ingenuity8886 I just learned today that it was a running joke. Stannis says it twice to Davos when counting soldiers. And then Davos said it to Jon Snow in season 7 or 8 idk which, when they were at Dragonstone. But anyway, that clever stuff is so cool.
His character's rhetoric was off the charts for a fantasy to introduce something foreign and novel. That was some top tier writing. Then later, when Arya reaches the house of Black and White, you learn why they speak this way. They no longer have an identity, so he has no name, he is just "a man" and he treats Arya as "a girl." Also by using names, he can't be picked for assassination if he is "a man."
“Three lives I will give you, no more, no less. You need only say the names, and a man will do the rest.” “Joffrey Baratheon.” “Ok that was a good name, a man will give you that name for free.”
@Monirith Sethy Joffrey Lannister by birth. Joffrey Baratheon by name. who is to say there are not more Joffrey Lannisters in that twisted family tree. A man needs a specific target.
The first death was the tickler because she didn't know what Jaqen was capable of, so she just said the name of a person she hated The second name was that lannister general dude, because if he didn't die, her cover would have been blown (regardless of whether Tywin was alive or not) The third time she wanted to kill Tywin, but Jaqen wasn't there. Later I guess she wanted to get out of harrenhal more than directly kill anyone
@@youtubeviewer4472 Well if you think about it he's essentially like a genie granting wishes; only he doesn't have the limitation of not "wishing for more wishes", if she just kept naming him with her last 'wish' she could've had him slaughter anyone she wanted in order to un-name him lmao
I love visiting these old videos. Looking at old theory comments. How excited everyone was with the series,with each new episodes,each new season but it all ended So So Badly 😭😭😭
@@melaesther2527 I dislike that too but she's a woman that needs some boning by then sadly 😅. Any 🍆 would do. Gendry just happened to be at the right place at the right time (yes with doom looming in)
Same, i went on a nostalgic binging trip now and then and just...wish I was back to 2012-2016 where everyone was so excited about all manners of theory.
Yeah, after promising myself I’d never revisit GOT i kept getting recommended a load of old clips on RU-vid, currently on a binge. That last season was really such a let down, almost made me forget how damn good it was.
That's the way they speak in Lorath. It's polite to speak in 3rd person but it's not forbidden to use 1st person speech. It's just more offensive or intimate.
edoardo garosi And yet taking his life may have stopped the war. That is something for which a life, even a little girl's life, is worth risking, don't you agree?
The Drunk Knight It wouldn't have ended anything. In fact, killing Tywin would have caused more problems. Also Jaqen does not give set times to when he does anything. Considering Tywin and his family are constantly surrounded by guards are fortified rooms, methinks it would have took more planning then killing a few guards nobody liked anyway.
I never said it wouldn't stop the war. But now that I think about it, it REALLY wouldn't. If Tywin or his children were touched; then Harrenhal would explode, with people looking for the killer, who do you think, they will look for. Anyone who isn't a local to the Castle. Including everyone bought there. Arya would be imprisoned or killed, and Robb and his mother would go berserk. Making a worse war.
Why would you think that? Because he had to sacrifice three people to the Red God due to the fact that Arya saved them? It's not paying her back, it's making something right.
His reappearance in the show was ok and good. Not bad. But his plotline in books is more interesting, after he change his face infront of arya. Apparently he went to old town to kill an novice named pete of the citidal and took his place. Pete has an unimportant position he was nothing more than a servant, but he is nurse/servant to old and senile archmaester walgrave, who speciallity is ravens, author of the book "dark wings, dark words" every arch maester carry some kind of master key which open the all doors in citidal or atleast the rooms which are restricted and contain dangerous knowledge in the eyes of maesters. Original deal was pete would provide him the key in exchange of gold coin. But when pete try to bite the gold cpin as he saw thats how merchants check its authenticity, he died as the coin was laced with poison. Of course it didnt said that the character of al chemist who gave pete coin was jaquen but the description of his features mathes the face that jaquen changed into before he departed from arya. And of course the way he killed pete speaks of methods of faceless men. And here is the final twist, despite being dead pete was found to be still alive somehow and veing part of maester mervyn who studies magic, and sam encountered him when he reache the citidal! Really excited for this story line.
@@eduardoprado0402 Let's see. I owned and ran a factory with 20 employees near Seattle, and now I'm a portrait photographer on a tiny island in the Caribbean.
i really don't think jaqen was obliged to offer 3 deaths, but he rather wanted to recruit her and exercised a good show how facelessmen are able to kill any men with a name he knew how arya had a deathlist of her own and struck her weak spot . at the last scene with jaqen, he was so eager to offer companionship for arya to become a facelessmen. i don't think faceless men recruit cadets that easily. i think his whole mission was to influence arya to join their ranks.
Notice how he never mentions or alludes to the fact that she'll have to loose her identity to join. And the fact that he frames his abilities (to a young impressionable child) as "able to grant wishes"
Jaqen was one of my favorite character in the series...calm and professional... I hope I will see him again further since I only watched till half of the 4th season yet...
@@davidmendelsohn3013 By now I have completed 6 seasons and I agree first 4 seasons were the best. But the thing is Reading a bulky fictional book is boring that's why it's better option for me watch although if it's not as complete as it was in book.
@@RandomShorts007AP dont listen to him, why do some people want you to read a long ass book, this is all for entertainment after all. Watch it and enjoy.
@@donn.4766 the books are absolutely worth the time. But! Despite the show going downhill, I'd still recommend watching all of it. Even with the story sort of dripping along, season 7 and 8 have great visuals. Except for S8E3, which was just dark.
@@RandomShorts007AP I didn't want to read but I also didnt want to watch the show crash and burn either. So I did the next best thing. I hired some homeless people to act out the book in exchange for ham and cheese sandwiches.
Arya is my favourite character now. In the sense that every time I see her I learn more about the faceless men(assassins), at the black and white house. The scene when she seen herself dead was very cool.
There is a theory that the Faceless men were hired by Cersei or Tywin to kill Ned Stark if he was sent to the wall because he could have been a threat to Joffrey's rule but I heard that a long time ago so I don't remember the details
A great conspiracy theory is that rhaegar backwards sounds like H'ghar. Feel like that was just to mess with people since in the books faceless man is kindly man, and arya is suppose to look like lyanna. the silver hair could be because hes a decendent of the first faceless men in Valeria or he has some targarian the show is hinting. "The Red God takes what is his, lovely girl." R'hllor is the red god. In the books jaqen is also known as the alchemist and it was a trade rhaegar knew. I wonder if the show will not continue this story or drop it for time.
***** no but since the guy who supposedly killed syrio was alive untill recently when arya killed him. it makes sense, its kinda retarded to think jaqen is a famous swordsman when he is infact practicing being no one.
Look, a walking, talking, sexy Death Note. ^^ Jaqen really comes close to being a one-scene-wonder. Maybe four-scene-wonder in this case. Comparatively minor role, but leaving a huge impact and stealing the show!
"Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three"
+TheSm1thers cersei has no power without powerful men to manipulate. waste of a kill. she'll die as easily as anyone beneath your sword when you take king's landing.
TheSm1thers not to mention if she had named Tywin...NO RED WEDDING!!!!!! Her mom and brother alive and well. Stannis would have Kings Landing. Joffrey and Cersi would be dead and all would be well. Damn you Arya!!!!!!!!
@@jjester2345 If she had named Tywin, Roose Bolton and Stannis then Robb would've had his pact with Renly Baratheon succeed. Baratheon and Tyrell ruling as king and queen of the 6 kingdoms and the north being ruled by king Robb and queen Talisa as a separate but allied kingdom. Stannis would've declared war on the usurper Robb immediately after finishing King's Landing because the law is the law and such and such, so he had to go. His host was very small anyway, so no large-scale conflict could possibly erupt after his assassination. Roose was too treacherous to be left alive and also Ramsay was only a b@stard at that point so he would've held no power at all. Walder Frey would get the Edmure-Roslin deal and be happy with it, for a lack of a better alternative. Neither Joffrey nor Kevan nor Cersei nor the Kingslayer held enough power to defeat Renly's enormous host of bannermen, because the westerlands produced no more gold, the mines had run dry. The Lannisters would've been squished, because afterall they are a traiterous, opportunistic and barbaric family capable of very cruel war crimes. No one would be honor-bound to defend them from extinction. The rains of castamere would turn from a frightening song into one of ironic mockery. It would have been the perfect peace, with all rulers having non-violent personalities. If Daenerys would've also decided to stay in Essos to enforce democracy instead of conquering westeros just because, that would've been the good ending ^^
I would have given Joffrey Baratheon, Cersei and Roose Bolton. But when you think about it, he says it can take months for these lives to be taken. Maybe more. The names Arya gave to Jaqen were easy lives to take: closely located, almost unprotected. But maybe with those 3 names, the surviving chances would have been very low. He could have died on his first attempt for only the first name, one name, and after months to get to him.
Makes sense that a faceless man, a person who changes his face, would find a girl who pretends to be someone else to be intriguing. Arya ticks a lot of boxes for potentially becoming a faceless man at this stage and this is probably some recruitment routine he does.
The first death (Tickler) was Arya testing Jaquen. She didn't fully trust him so she just named a random person (that she hates). The second (Ser Amory Lorch) was necessary. She wanted Tywin to be the third but he'd gone before she reached Jaquen.
+dibaterman her reasoning in the books at the time is pretty much that she is impatient, she want's immediate revenge on those around her like chiswyk, weese, the tickler, the mountain, ser amory etc joffrey and cersei are hundreds of miles away and she knows it would take a long time for jaqen to get to these people. Remember in the show it makes it look like she is in harrenhal for a short amount of time, whereas in the book she has been a prisoner there for some time and eventually is chosen to be a serving girl,they make her scrub the grime off the floors until her hands bleed, so you can understand that has given her time for her hatred of her captures to mature.
later on they talk about how he can indeed kill anyone but he doesn't know how much time does it take. he also says that "the man can't do that" when arya wants tywin to be killed immediately. so it's also just common sense. maybe he kills cersei or joffrey but if it takes years the war might just end by that time.
Later he couldn't - because the Ty has left. But she knew beforehand who he was and that he was planning to fight her brother. She even pondered stabbing him. She just hesitated - maybe because he treated her humanely. With all my affection to the Starks - this is a continuous flaw by them: letting feelings override duty.
I guess this was the only chance that Arya had to save Robb from his death. Come on girl, just say Tywin lannister and he might be dead before he planned to kill Robb Stark in the Red Wedding.
Sun Moon The books have her realise this mistake, later on - Arya is a young girl who wasn't thinking clearly, she was mostly wanting those she more directly hated to die... And in the books Tywin was never on her list, being they never interacted unlike here - in the books, she serves Roose Bolton instead, after using Jaqen's name to overthrow Lannister control some time after her and Gregor Clegane and such have left; it's also under those circumstances that Amory Lorch died, unlike here where his role as the second name she uses is combined with a minor character, a cruel steward (I believe that was his job) of Harrenhal named Weese. The Tickler also didn't get named; a separate minor character was her first name, and the Tickler died in late Book 3 at her direct hands in the scene where in the show, she killed Polliver (Polliver himself was killed by the Hound in the same scene; furthering that, ANOTHER separate character was the one who killed Lommy Greenhands in the books, Polliver was just the guy who took Arya's sword but the roles were merged - thankfully, a leaked chapter of Book 6 shows Arya killing the man who murdered Lommy in Braavos, when she finds him there (a death in Season 5 is actually based on that one). Yeah... the books are complicated like that. You'd have to read them a dozen times or something to notice all the names and details and such...
I've always wondered how Jaqen H'ghar got there. How did a Faceless Assassin get thrown into Kings Landing dungeons? Why didn't he escape since it's obvious he could at his leisure? Why did he choose to head to the Wall? What was he doing?
+FerretJohn I imagine this is a difficult question.. He might have been seeking an opportunity to offer many Free Folk and men of the Night's Watch to his god of Death, perhaps..
There's a really plausible theory out there I read years back that had him on a mission to obtain the key for opening something secured (a book? a candle? I forget now) at the Citadel. He obtained the key, but we don't find out what he used it for after that. He was simply biding his time while planning his journey. I'm unsure why he helped Arya. My theory is he knew an ancestor of hers a long time ago, so he bestows his gift upon his old friend's descendent.
The title of the video reminds me of the holy hand grenade scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.
My theory is that Jaqen is actually the god of death/red god; I watched the whole series trying to disprove this gut feeling and only found more to support it 😅 I like to think the actual Game of Thrones was played by the gods, old and new, who actually walked and talked among the people as characters we never picked up on (except Jaqen).
They will expand Roose Bolton in the next season. I think it was smart to show us a little more of Tywins character. And the scenes between Arya and Tywin are really great and good written.
"Three life I'll give you, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out".
