Tiger 800 - Coolant change 

They make me £30 a month, why would I take them down 😂😅

@@MuddySump You never know!

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👍🏻 they changed the clamps to clips on later models and all the newer bikes now. Can be a bit of a pain to get off sometimes. You can get some special pliers for them but I just use some water pump pliers

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Thanks, that's how i try to make them

Thanks, it should be the same procedure on your bikes too

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Thanks. Every bikes pretty much the same.

Hi Alan Can take longer than that for the fan to come on. Has to get to 103 degrees Celsius. You could put 12v straight to the fan and it should spin then.

It’s the same plastic screw in the video. You need to have a good fitting screwdriver or you’ll just turn the slots into a circle

@@MuddySump im an idiot. i was watching on my phone outside when i was working on it. i thought yours was a hex head since you had the socket wrench! thanks again for the video. i did it without taking out the bleeder screw so hopefully it'll all be ok!

The reservoir will drain with the radiator. I used Engine Ice in my track bike and had to be 100% sure to get ALL the anti-freeze out. I did an additional fill and flush with distilled water between the initial draining and Engine Ice fill.

Thanks! The flushing with distilled water was done for track compliance or to avoid a chemical reaction? Regd Engine Ice - Did you see a difference in the engine heat?

For track compliance. You would be fine to skip that step if you want. I *feel* like it runs cooler? I can run all day in quite warm temperatures and I never notice the bike getting warm. I've heard others make similar claims. Again, this is under track conditions though where heat is often an issue we don't run into on the street.

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. I didn't use the Tiger on a track but in warm days it takes 2 minutes of traffic or standing to get the engine heat to go up. I'm hoping the engine ice is a better heat conductor

Riding slow single tracks in the woods also heats up the engine very quickly. It really likes speed since then the air is cooling it down properly. I think that Triumph has designed a radiator which is too small and/or it is inefficient. I rode KTM 1190 and 1290 and their engine heat never moves above the center

You run it till the fan comes on then top up the expansion bottle.

MuddySump how long do ya think it should take for the fan to come on? My bike is up to temp and the fan never kicked on.

Lee Causey takes a while. It comes on at 103°c

MuddySump thanks. I was starting to get worried. I'll crank it up and let it run for 20 mins or so and see if that gets it to kick on. I'm a little worried my thermostat is shot. I was on a trip this weekend and I fell over. In doing so the reservoir cap popped off and I dumpped some coolant. I topped it up with water because I had no other choice. The rest of the weekend it would start flashing that it was overheating and the check engine light would come on. I was freaked out at first then I found if I just turned off the bike and cycled the key it would read normal again but still have a check engine light. Then after a while the light would go off. It seemed really random when it would indicate that it was overheating but would always reset after cycling the key. Strange.

Flush it through with water

Thanks. Yes, it’s all the same idea. The only difference on the sport is that there’s another bleed screw at the front of the engine on the left side. Little 10mm head with a copper washer. The coolant shoots out when you take the screw out. I usually use a small funnel to direct it to the drain bowl

@@MuddySump thanks, that's great to know. Why would you think they have 2 bleed screws...just cos it's a slightly bigger engine...or different internal design being a triple?

@@mikebrook8500 they’re all triples. Think it’s just the way the engine is. Xl couldn’t all drain out of the one part. The explorer engine is the same

@@MuddySump oh, fair enough. I'm new to this Triumph lark, so learning all the time, been on Harley's for last few years 🙂 so your videos are a great help.

There’s a screw at the front of the engine you have to take out to drain the coolant in the explorer too. Have a drain pan ready cause it shoots right out towards the front wheel. It has to run till the fan comes on when you’ve done a coolant change. That must just be to check the coolant normally

+ULTIMATEJOE7 it’s three years for the coolant, two years for the brake fluid?

+Wolfman fan comes on at 103'c never looked at what bar it is on the dash but probably close to coming on. Should run it for 30 seconds, take the cap off, top up radiator then top up expansion bottle. Then let it run till the fan comes on and goes back off. The level shouldn't move in the expansion bottle when it does but it might pull a bit back into the radiator when cooling. Can top up expansion bottle again then

Cheers mate 😊

Just use bottled water

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No idea. I’ve seen them look like that from new

Its normal because of rubber Temperature you ned to change que hoses when your colant start to get ruber parts debre or changin color of the culant

I meant the reservoir cap.

No. It’s got a breather/overflow pipe on it

Hi. None explorer specific. I used to own the 800 so did them on my own bike

+MuddySump ..thks bro

No. Need to reply to this one too otherwise it will stay on the list to need replying to

@@MuddySump thanks man. I was just curious how the air bleeds from the system if there’s no way to escape when you first start the engine after initial coolant fill. I just picked up a 2013 Tiger 800 xc in North Carolina and these videos are incredible. Thank you for your attention to detail.

I haven’t worked on them but probably around the same.

+bigmankz that's about right. I always only use two bottles. Don't know where the other .4 is. Must be if it's been a total strip down

Thanks a million. I also was wondering what are the connectors you have on the left side of the radiator? I have 2013 800XC and it does not have any connectors or wires there.

Heated grips are on the left. Fog lights on the right

@@MuddySump Thanks for this confirmation. I was able to get in only 2L. Using Evans Prep Fluid - 2L in and out, and Evans Powersports Coolant after again only 2L. Dunno know where remaining 0.4 are ... (empty everything possible) ... Thanks for the video. It looks easy, but if you have skidplate (not original) and crash frame make this `easy` job a lot of harder :-P But just say'in

+shardul naik 90 degrees is operating temperature. Fan comes on at 103, goes back off at 101

MuddySump thanks :), is that somewhere around 6 bars?

My fan turns on after the bike idles on the 6th bar for about 45-60 seconds

+ULTIMATEJOE7 possibly but can’t see how they would tell. Triumph parts have to be used for service to keep the warranty

Was it not just a bit of spilt coolant burning off the engine or exhaust somewhere when it was getting hot? If it is leaking at the head gasket then the gasket needs changing.

yes, and that's right .... the liquid fell a little on the exhaust ..... thanks for the tip .... I got scared !!!

That’s right. It shouldn’t get hot

@@MuddySump Nice one, cheers buddy

Triumph dealers are the only shops that sell it. What do they use at your shop? Not sure what can be mixed with it. Might be better to flush the system and use something you can get

+MuddySump My local Triumph dealer dont sell the Triumph coolant (hd4x Hybrid oat). They have Motul Motocool (YELLOW) or Castrol Radicool SF (RED),. They would use Castrol Radicoool SF, but i am not convinced. I have done some searching on internet and some say valvoline zerex g-05 is good match.

I only use the original coolant to keep things simple. If you change type or colour you’ll have to flush the system through. It’s probably got the old green oat coolant in your bike. It’s changed to a pink colour now

You’ve got air in the system or the radiator cap isn’t working properly

@@MuddySump if I could bother you to ask another question, how would I go about getting the air out? Squeezing the air hose does not release any more bubbles

@@wyattcooper2041 When its ran up to temperature and the fan comes on it should pull the water from the expansion bottle into the radiator. If it's going up and down all the time try a new cap

+RbG84 did you take the radiator cap off?

no this was the problem, i didnt have time yet but i need remove the gas thank ? pain in the ass for simple task... :( the car was more easy

Just the ones who hate hearing their own voice and find it awkward talking to a camera 🙃

It's better to just cause it's not good for the metals. What you can do though is fill the kettle with tap water and boil it first. Let it cool down before you pour it in

Thanks for the reply. Did you mean to put something different btw? your wrote 'Its better to just cause' Im guessing you meant its better to just use distilled water? Cheers.

yes, was talking about the distilled water :-)

Alright mate ill use distilled to flush then. Thanks MuddySump

Also If you would want to work on my DRZ (ive messaged you via email before) could i send you a few different jobs that might need doing for some quotes? Cheers