@@Agent-57 the thing is, the 10 second mode was a flawed upgrade because it was all offense, it was dangerous for Genos himself to use and it was overall rather experimental. I could definitely see Kyseno pushing the power down and making the next form of Genos more safe and rounded, but less powerful.
Damm king is so strong he used the moon as a puncing bag got his scar from threat level god opponent and pulled timetravel stuff to save the timeline and he is so humble that he tries to deny those feats what an incredible guy
King should be at the top, as its stated that his scar was from a god level threat.. meaning he scales to god. He has also repeatedly beaten Saitama. He solos everyone on the list at the same time without difficulty.
My favorite part of the video was when you went into depth on the top 4 in S tier, it really showed devotion I have never seen before, and really helped me understand the S tier rankings. Thanks!
The Garou, Platinum, Sage Centipede scaling issue dissappears when you accept the fact that Garou did get much stronger after his fight with Bang when he woke up. Dozens of times stronger... hundreds of times stronger.
Oh, yeah, sure... Hundreds of times stronger from just waking up... When he was already using two separate techniques that push his body to and beyond it's limits while he was asleep and was also utilizing a combination martial art that was blatantly shown to be a bigger amp to Garou than the incomplete God Slayer Fist he was using during the Sage fight. Suuuree.
@@SatorisYTI think what he meant was how his growth was immense while fighting platinum s and flashy flash to the point when plat had to keep unsuppressing himself to fight a constantly growing garou
Excellent video. Although I think Rover should be above Elder Centipede or at least on the same level. This is because Orochi never considered King a worthy sacrifice despite knowing that he disintegrated EC's body with a single blow. However, in Saitama's case, by simply knocking out Rover, Orochi considered him a worthy sacrifice and the person who killed Gouketsu and EC.
Does he know exactly how EC died other than king did it? I only ask because if it was seen that king did it in one punch, then it would have been seen that king didn’t. Only we know that EC died in one hit. Same as goketsu. All they know is that he was defeated
@@courve Yeah. When King arrived at the battlefield after the heroes had been defeated, Black S says that he heard that King defeated EC with a single blow. Possibly he knows this because Psykos has been watching the fight from afar with one of her flying eyes and has seen EC charge at King and suddenly be disintegrated. And considering that Black S knew about this information, it is most likely that Orochi knows it too.
@@jx8903You're right. But Orochi when he met Saitama told him that he was the sacrifice he was looking for. Which means that despite knowing King's feat, he never thought King would be a good sacrifice.
I think this is the first list that I fully agree with considering all the circumstances and details of the information you put into it, unlike the other list I saw.
yeah it's a pretty good list, I think I agree with almost everything. I'm still eh about unironcially putting KING so high, but beyond that it's a good list. Also you should do some lists with VERSUS, the new series by ONE. It would be interesting to look at how the enemies in VERSUS compare to OPM monsters and etc, especially as we get to see more of what the enemies can do.
‘The longer I look at the scaling for any given series the more complicated the scaling becomes’ nothing more true has ever been said about powerscaling before
Yeah, but that's if You think they scale above him lore wise, which I think they might, but like I said in the video, there are many factors to concider.
For the most part I agree with the rankings, I would put King in the A tier as cosmic fear Garou radiation bypassed their luck ability, and your problaly aware of why I think Boros should also be in A tier.
I definitely love the list. I agree with a lot of the rankings. The only thing I disagree with and would change, is putting Vomit Fuhrer Ugly on the list, because unless you’re a character who is on the top 15 and up on the list, Vomit Fuhrer Ugly is literally a bad match for almost 90% of any character’s in one punch man. Darkshine who has one of the best durabilities in the series got harmed really bad from him to the point where his skin got melted. And human characters like Bang, and Flash wouldn’t be able to do anything. Them touching him is death already to them. And flash is sword is useless against him as well.
True, but Ugly also has to constantly replenish himself by melting and consuming (presumably) living organisms (not rocks and stuff). So if the human characters just run for a while, in theory Ugly should just die on his own.
@@SatorisYTThat’s true, but at that point that’s not really a fight anymore, it’s just running and hiding from him. But if we’re talking about a head on fight then Vomit Ugly would be on the list imo.
@@SatorisYTUgly had to eat to keep himself alive so i wonder if one and murata are trying to plant the seeds for more monsters absorbing the powers of others like with the Psy-Rochi fusion. It seemed like Ugly inherited the hunger and digestive abilities of gums.
@@SatorisYT I also think running and hiding from Vomit Fuhrer Ugly and waiting until he dies is also easier said than done too. Because after he got beat up by golden s and energy bombed by Homeless emperor it looked like he was still pretty much intact and didn’t lose to much of his form or body; it barley looked like he lost anything. So theoretically I think it would take a really long time for him to die(probably weeks or months) if anyone tried hiding from him and waiting for him to melt and die.
If u think it natural water and sage centepide where there for garou to improve( god slashing fist) so i think god was planing on the long game for cosmic garou
Saying Tatsumaki can stand a good chance against Monster Garou but gets folded by even a non Meteoric Burst Boros is wild when Monster Garou has better feats and scaling 😭
Scaling Platinum S to EC so directly feels a bit weird to me, it's not like he can sense power levels like GG to measure how strong was EC exactly, all he knows is that it was "strong" and got defeated by King.
Good list! I do think it's possible to place Blast above Garou but it's probably better to wait for more feats. Putting God above Saitama is probably controversial but I do agree with that take.
Cosmic Garou was literally toying with Blast. And Blast's best feat was accomplished with the help of all his pals. So far I don't even see any logical reason to put him really far above Boros, maybe in the future.
I honestly think that for the 13-9 spots those characters would go 13:Genos: I don’t think he could beat most of those. 12: platinum S: I do not believe he could beat anyone higher but he would easy genos 11: orochi, yes he got one hit, but it was saitama 10: sage 9: evil ocean water: I think that it would go slightly lower but it survived a punch from saitama even if barely and is pretty strong 11: I would have to go centipede 10
Cuz I've already discussed those rankingings in a previous ranking video and literally no one asked anything, so I thought it was just the consensus. Apparently it was not.
@@mcuniboob to be honest I kind of needed to cut it short if I wanted to get any sleep in the weekend. But fair critique. I might do God vs Saitama later.
Geryu or geryuganshoop from the last ep of s1 is actually the strongest esper in the universe as stated and can defeat physcorochi and tatsumaki combined with her feat capable of making force that can ctush any thing a black hole force staated by herself so in my opinion she should be above tatsumaki in A+ teir since boros completely outscales
Well its been stressed that the moon is at least symbolically, the eye of god and we know that vaccine man and homeless got their powers from the same source. I think God was just preoccupied with Blast and might've confused Garou and saitama. God might've thought Garou was the fist that turned against God and sent Sage centipede after him. I say this because of the panel of the moon over Garou when he fought tanktop master. Garou was still in the process of breaking his limiter during the sage and possibly during the tank top master fight. God probbably realized too late that Saitama was the one he was looking for during the battle on jupiters moon. Edit: God probably realized it was saitama right before God made Garou a disciple.
Not going to lie, every like 45 seconds, I was saying "Well, that's wrong" and "Yeah, but..." and "How does that even make sense?" the entire time. But whatever
@@SatorisYT Wdym what do I mean?! The current arc is so ASS compared to the webcomic and unlike the MA arc the drawing is mid and the chapters are short AF
People say that King is basically as strong as Saitama thanks to his metaluck, as he will never die because of him. But I'd say that it's more like he's as strong as you can get without approaching Saitama's level of power, since as soon as Garou obtained cosmic fear mode he was actually able to kill him in that alternate future, that's why I think it makes more sense for King to be in the same tier as Blast (still above him though)
@@SatorisYT nope you actually see him dead trying to protect Tareo at a certain point, but I can't rember when. Maybe when Garou was regretting everything and we see all the dead S class..I think
@@mauroventimiglia5208 kings metaluck literally rewound time 9through the zero punch) to save him. Even if king "dies" kings reality bending powers will basically rewrite the universe so that king wins. Him "dying" even if it were true proves nothing.
@@ilostthreeaccountstoyoutub1434 nah imo that' stretching it too much 😭 Like, at this point let's just say he's stronger than God since we know that most probably God will lose to Saitama in the ending 💀
god sending sage centipede and ocean water to kill saitama doesnt imply they are individually or combined stronger than orochi, all it means is that they are the 2 strongest remaining monster god has available. also the fact that orochi was the monster king e.g. in charge of all the other monsters should be enough to conclude that orochi individually is the strongest monster during the association arch
Oh wow, who is that king?? i see him on season 1, he says nothing but all i hear is heartbeat.. idk he's that strong, even stronger than number 1 blast. btw blast looks cool :)
On this tier list/scale where would you put you’re what if Boros? Strongest characters? Personally I’d say Blast and Boros is S-. Cosmic Phoenix Man is S alongside obviously God and Saitama. I’d put Pre Cosmic phoenix Man in the A+ where Boros is as he easily destroyed Tatsumaki. Also just to do it where would you put pre cosmic Garou forms on this scale? Personally I’d say Perfected fist would be rank 9 and Bulk Form around Tatsumaki and then Winged and Gargoyle is still in that A tier but above Tatsumaki and Physorochi. As he clearly imo isn’t in Boro’s tier in the slightest.
@@mostloved_treso Boros from the what if would be above Blast by one spot, Cosmic Phoenix Man one spot above what if Boros, and Gargoyle Garpu would be one spot above Tatsumaki, while the rest would be scattered between Orochi and Tatsumaki.
@@SatorisYT makes sense too me honestly. We have pretty similar ideals as in power-scaling for the OPM characters. Uhm kinda “spoilery” questions for S2 of Boros but, what are some things you want to expand upon? Or maybe incorporate? Also I appreciate the Garo and Boros love as a fan of both of them.
@@mostloved_treso (: That is kind of spoilery 😅 I suppose without spoiling much I want to delve in Boros' past, as well as progress existing character arcs and create new ones as well for various characters. And in general I want to push the hype up more.
Can you please do an inteligence scale on the OPM characthers? Include all the characters that have inteligence as an important atribute of their characther or that have a big plan. (please include webcomic inteligence feats for our boy dr bofoi)
i know for a fact that empty void is gonna be one of the strongest ever in the series i can tell when we first got his reveal in 196 you knew from the start that he was built different
a tiny thing i disagree with is i think that child emperor should be in the Honorable mentions and phoenix man could be in C tier, otherwise great list
For now, I'd say definitely peak Cosmic Garou. In the future,as e Void can prove himself stronger, but if he's at all relative to Blast, then I just can not see him measuring up to peak Garou, who was going blow for blow with exponentially-growing Saitama for a while.
The Sage vs Bat and Garou fight gives me a headache. Is metal bat really comparable to Garou at that point? The fight implies it but I just can’t believe that. Also in the platinum vs flashy vs garou fight they are moving so fast it makes those constellation looking things while it seems that everyone can see the sage fight. But if sage and metal bat are so slow how come sage can even perceive garou? I think Murata kinda forgot that he just made Garou a speedster type character. I realize that it is very common for many authors to not really know or care about speed scaling, but come on. They made it very clear that Garou was insanely fast, how can random fodder in a helicopter even see what is going on unless sage is below ftl. Was Garou ultra nerfing himself for some reason? Tldr: Sage is seemingly super slow but can fight fast garou, and I don’t understand it. Also metal bat’s scaling makes my head hurt.
Also I realize this is basically what you said in another video but it has always been bothering me since I first read those chapters. Man I really feel like those chapters were either rushed or they just didn’t care. Oh well love your vids btw.
Yeah, this was also my problem when i read the chapter. Garou uses his speed against ps and ff but not on sage centipede. Unless garou sacrifice his speed for strength but its bs cuz he can maintain or increase his speed while increasing his power/strength Then later he uses his speed against saitama I hope ONE and murata notice this and redo the chapter
Not putting atomic samurai is kinda dumb since you compaired him to golden s which is literally the worst monster for atomic samurai to fight especially since the sun blade gives him a huge power boost (imagine when he masters it tho)
Bang shouldn’t reach near small planetary. Garou only damaged a small portion of sage centipede while the small planet calc is of sage’s entire body so you would have to divide the value from the small planet calc by the portion of sage that he damaged. So if garou damaged 1/6000 of sage then you divide the calc by 6000. This would make the scaling way easier and would make sense as garou only damaged small portions of sage at the beginning of the fight. This would make that garou only multi-continental which fits easier into the scaling chain.
That sounds nice on paper, but Sage's shell can withstand the force of the drill move without shattering. The small planet level calc for Sage is specifically him spinning his body at the speed of a drill. If he can take the force of that spin without falling apart (which he can), then he scales to that small planet level. It's weird.
Nah, that's actually not too crazy, because even a demon level is able to destroy a city, and each city is the size of a country, so small planetary or multi continental isn't too crazy for Bang
Great list dude to be honest. Now 24:51 or just part where you talk why would Platinum S be unserious when he almost wanted fight king could be just like Platinum S monolouge or dialouge,basically he talked to himself several seconds before he get serious (Aka when he got probably faster after Flashy Flash was defeated,my opinion for that) and start fight king. And then Garou who was faster than second appeared out of nowhere and hit Platinum S i would say Platinum S was caught off guard.
@@SatorisYTstill trying to figure out that top 20 spot, was gonna finish the video to see what you had in your list first before deciding Although I was going to put the blastice league ahead of tatsumaki sooo.....
@@SatorisYT I see, but that kinda doesn't make sense, i mean, he flattened a city with a swipe of his hand through the air above it, he had to be dragon level for sure. He'd crush fuhrer ugly and gums, and I reckon he could have a good fight with someone like elder centipede. Maybe make a vid on it? :D
@@ogre3918 He has a lot of scale, especially in the anime, but many monsters can just have better attack potency. Carnage Kabuto is stated to be in a whole other league compared to Beefcake, so I think Elder Centipede is too much for him personally. I do agree that he could probably crush a couple of the weakest Cadres. Him vs Fughrer Ugly could maybe be interesting I feel.
