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Toyota Supra vs Nissan Z // Ultimate RWD Sports Car Head to Head Battle 

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Watch this comparison between these two high performance sports cars, The 2023 Toyota Supra A-91 Manual in CU Later Grey and the 2023 Nissan Z Manual in Boulder Grey.
00:00 Intro
00:50 Driving Experience
07:07 Exhaust
07:46 Fuel Economy
08:07 Exterior
08:32 Interior/Features/Tech
11:21 Final Thoughts
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@clemsonguy99
@clemsonguy99 11 месяцев назад
All we need now is a new RX-7 and the trilogy will be complete.
@insansiregar6158
@insansiregar6158 4 месяца назад
New RX-8 a.k.a RX-9
@marcmini8137
@marcmini8137 2 дня назад
its true. please mazda come out with a new mazda rx
@interviewtime1170
@interviewtime1170 2 дня назад
Let it be a collaboration with bmw
@avdp9095
@avdp9095 11 месяцев назад
The Supra, just for the looks, wow, such a nice car.
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 11 месяцев назад
Looks are subjective, in every other way its just a better car.
@Nick-hz2kl
@Nick-hz2kl 11 месяцев назад
It’s faster and overall better than the Z
@patriciovivas2270
@patriciovivas2270 11 месяцев назад
The Toyota Supra is better than Nissan Z.
@steve8803
@steve8803 11 месяцев назад
@@patriciovivas2270 I'd go with the Z because it's significantly cheaper than the bmw.
@patriciovivas2270
@patriciovivas2270 11 месяцев назад
@@steve8803 👍
@motorgearhead
@motorgearhead 11 месяцев назад
Former 280 owner. Love the old school Z. I’m glad they finally up the HP in the newer offering. The Supra is a strong piece of kit as well. I can say I would be happy with either (I think). I’ve gave up my built 280 about 30 yrs ago. It was about 50 hp over stock which in todays standards isn’t anything significant. The L28 was rated at 170 hp. Think I was making 210-220. I could outrun 5.0’s in the 80’s which were rated at about 225 if I remember. Also outran 6.6 trans Ams & Z28’s. The only thing that ever got me was a 911 turbo. Pretty sure it was a turbo as it had a picnic table sized whale tale and flared fender wells. We came off a stoplight and I hung through first gear, lost a 1/2 car in 2nd and he drove out of my life in 3rd. Such great fun! We are blessed to have such potent vehicles from the manufactures. I’m still a little old school. I’m running a 2007 C6 Z now. Surprised that my mpg is about same as these cars however I’m making about 550 wheel (yes not huge numbers for an LS7). Boost is great & it wouldn’t take much to turn up the wick on these two, I’m sure. Beautiful cars, the both. Nicely done review.
@mrwilliamwonder
@mrwilliamwonder 10 месяцев назад
I had a black 77 Camaro with red velvet seats and built in 8 track.
@motorgearhead
@motorgearhead 10 месяцев назад
@@mrwilliamwonder - now that’s old school. I had an 8 track in a 70 AMC Hornet. I actually owned a “James Bond Car”! Not sure the movie but I think he did a spiraling jump over a river and landed safely on the other side in a Hornet. Had a country sherif with him (like Smokey & Bandit). Man that took me back…
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 10 месяцев назад
yawn
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 10 месяцев назад
LOL I think you motorgearhead in memory lane entertainment factor LOL as whatever someone outdid way back when is just irrelevant YAWN by now....right along with "man I used to date beautiful young women" Yeah when I was in my 20s and the times (ages) alone make that a great big SO WHAT? now lol
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
Well said
@kwelitysoul
@kwelitysoul 11 месяцев назад
My condolences go out to those that have to put a front license plate on 💀
@tubejorrit
@tubejorrit 11 месяцев назад
europe thanks you
@Tunnelsnakes
@Tunnelsnakes 11 месяцев назад
I will never understand those dumb laws. You still got the rear plate. Just make sure cars have that and you’re good.
@tubejorrit
@tubejorrit 11 месяцев назад
@@Tunnelsnakes it is because when a cop drives in front of someone they can run the plate without letting the suspect/car in front of them. Also we have automated parking garages that scan your place from the front, open the gate and when you leave they scan the plate again and the parking cost will be automatically written of your bank account. Also when towing a trailer you can't see the rear license plate and other things. But I agree, a rear plate should have been enough :(
@Tunnelsnakes
@Tunnelsnakes 11 месяцев назад
@@tubejorrit I don’t understand that logic honestly. If a cop has to drive in front of a suspects car, they’re literally already in front and in literal sight of the suspect driver. A cop is a lot less likely to get noticed when following from the rear if they’re pursuing someone. Also, no reason for camera systems in garages to be facing the opposite way to capture the rear plate. As for trailers, just require the trailer cars themselves to be plated then. If they don’t do that, chances are these people wouldn’t be plating their vehicles in the first place.
@jesusmeza4494
@jesusmeza4494 11 месяцев назад
​@@Tunnelsnakescop cars automatically scan license plates so having a front license plates makes it easier for them to scan more.
@JesseTheG_
@JesseTheG_ 11 месяцев назад
Both are beautiful cars. My personal preference goes to the Z for simplicity. Plus those tail lights
@joshlamar1990
@joshlamar1990 11 месяцев назад
Yea it’s simply overpriced.
@2seep
@2seep 11 месяцев назад
@@joshlamar1990overpriced? Not at all. It’s just the dealer markups.
@joshlamar1990
@joshlamar1990 11 месяцев назад
@@2seep 55k is to much for this old ass platform. Considering you would have to spend thousands to get better tires better exhaust and suspension work upon taking delivery. Nissan did the bare minimum but they threw a 240z body kit on the car to pull in buyers lol
@mhockey1736
@mhockey1736 11 месяцев назад
@joshlamar1990 Only the Proto Spec is $55k, the base Z starts at $41k, over 10k cheaper than a base Supra 3.0 That’s a lot of money for mods, if performance is your concern
@joshlamar1990
@joshlamar1990 11 месяцев назад
@@mhockey1736 nobody can find a base for 41k it one near me in Dallas going for 60k Nissan is only going to keep hiking up the price when these cars do become available base price probably will be 45k not including taxes fees and interest rates that people seem to forget to include.
@Sarcastic_Asmodeus
@Sarcastic_Asmodeus 11 месяцев назад
The Toyota tuned BMW is a hell of a car! 💪💪💪
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube 10 месяцев назад
BMW tunned bmw ... Toyota didnt tune it
@c.m.7037
@c.m.7037 7 месяцев назад
Just call it the BMW Supra.
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube 7 месяцев назад
@@c.m.7037 No its NOT a Supra .... Its a transgender Supra or a Cross dressing BMW
@Willizm_
@Willizm_ 11 месяцев назад
Great comparison, keep up the fire content!
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 11 месяцев назад
Thank u 🙏
@kurumatt473
@kurumatt473 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for this match up. Takes me back to the early 2000s when I had my MKIV and my buddy had his big turbos 300z. it's great to see these types of cars making a comeback.
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@dom_z3480
@dom_z3480 10 месяцев назад
I’ve seen 7 z’s and my god it’s so much wider in person than it is in the videos and pictures . It’s so nice.
@GodSpeed3
@GodSpeed3 11 месяцев назад
Awesome review and great shots !! Keep soaring high man !!
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 11 месяцев назад
Thank u bro
@GodSpeed3
@GodSpeed3 11 месяцев назад
@@Sleepygarage It's an honor brother 🙏🏼
@kpizzleprice6649
@kpizzleprice6649 11 месяцев назад
People hate the “supra” but I think a toyota that drives like a BMW is beautiful 🫡
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
I agree
@raddydl134
@raddydl134 8 месяцев назад
Congratulations on producing such an outstanding video comparison of those two cars! Your attention to detail, informative insights, and engaging presentation truly make it a valuable resource for anyone looking to make an informed decision. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to seeing more fantastic content from you in the future!"
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 7 месяцев назад
Thank you very much! Means a lot!
@danzburg
@danzburg 11 месяцев назад
Great video! I think I ran into you at Toyota when you were dropping off the Supra. Finally have mine now haha, really enjoying it.
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 11 месяцев назад
Oh yeah I remember, u got a manual a90 in blue right? Glad you’re enjoying it!
@danzburg
@danzburg 11 месяцев назад
@@Sleepygarage white haha. But I think we’re getting this press car in a few weeks along with the special edition 86. Should be fun.
@YUNGLACE_
@YUNGLACE_ 11 месяцев назад
Supra ftw🔥🔥 better drivers car imo
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 11 месяцев назад
Haha I agree
@NFSLINKINPARK1
@NFSLINKINPARK1 11 месяцев назад
It's not an opinion if everyone who drives both says the supra is the better drivers car.
@hertzair1186
@hertzair1186 11 месяцев назад
…except for that awful Supra styling….looks like it was designed by a committee that couldn’t agree.
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 8 месяцев назад
​@@hertzair1186 they had to fit a Toyota design on the frame of a BMW Z4, so the design got smushed.
@boysenberrydracula3599
@boysenberrydracula3599 15 дней назад
Excellent review, thanks!
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 4 дня назад
Thanks for watching!
@marklinley815
@marklinley815 11 месяцев назад
The B58 is a far superior motor and drivetrain. No offense to the Z, but make no mistake, I think the A90’s are here to stay. Least for me in my garage!!!
@Unxpekted
@Unxpekted 11 месяцев назад
I wouldn't so easily count out the Z or should I say VR. Tuners are relentless and from a build standpoint the platform is EXTREMELY capable (600+HP on stock internals). A tune and tire change alone on the stock Z can run an 11 flat. With some coil overs and other boosters to handling it'll perform extremely well on track days!
@stevejohnson2108
@stevejohnson2108 11 месяцев назад
Bottom line the Supra has one of the best if not the best engines going for it right now. And if BMW really advertised power the B58 is at least 425 HP at the crank. Fit and finish from what I saw is superior in the Supra and the BMW i-drive is away ahead of the Nissan. Basically not even close, Supra hands down.
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube 10 месяцев назад
Bmw
@Dontdoitguy
@Dontdoitguy 6 месяцев назад
@@ACommenterOnRU-vidwho cares
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube 6 месяцев назад
@@Dontdoitguy You did enough to comment
@tthanhtamae86
@tthanhtamae86 11 месяцев назад
Love the comparison can’t wait for a head to head comparison with the Integra type. S.
@jdmsnail2505
@jdmsnail2505 11 месяцев назад
Supra cool but i love my new z never was much a toyota guy used to drive a bmw.
@shad3128
@shad3128 10 месяцев назад
I think the Z is gonna find itself in its own class of "not everyone has it, so its cool" for a bunch of reasons. The supra got introduced early enough with the b58 to juice that thing to high heaven, whereas half of us cant even see a Z in person yet on the streets. As much as i want to love the new Z its hard to love something that most of us have no access or exposure to
@CHOWHOUNDRACINGNDIECAST
@CHOWHOUNDRACINGNDIECAST 10 месяцев назад
I'm finding your point exactly. I just purchased a zx in Rosewood metallic and practically everyone I come across has stated this is the first time they've seen one in real life. Sort of gives me the feeling of exclusivity
@GR3YHOODCrypto
@GR3YHOODCrypto 6 месяцев назад
Fax I never seen one irl
@geraldmaier5816
@geraldmaier5816 11 месяцев назад
The Z for me 😊
@keino111689
@keino111689 10 месяцев назад
I think my two favorite sport cars of all time are the Porsche 911 and the Supra MK5. When it first launched, I was not very enthusiastic about it because it wasn’t a PURE Toyota but I understand that in this economy, the only way Toyota could give us a affordable sports car; would be to collaborate with BMW. Also knowing that the B58 engine is the closest we’re going to get the Toyota 2JZ(and might even be better than the 2JZ). The Supra also has a better road presence than the Z and like I said, the only other sport car I would consider over a Supra is the 911.
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
I Second this🖐️
@labornurse
@labornurse 8 дней назад
To be fair, Nissan found a way.
@richardely2079
@richardely2079 11 месяцев назад
This was well done would like to see tuner numbers and max safe hp/tor numbers finally amazing video the driving shots were really good. What you use?
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
Thank U, I use an iPhone 14 pro and a DJI mavic air 2s
@patricksmith1550
@patricksmith1550 11 месяцев назад
I have yet to see a single Z. I would assume outrageous dealership markups are to blame...?
@falcodog2917
@falcodog2917 Месяц назад
Great video! I had the opportunity to drive both of these cars back to back. They were both wonderful and I'm so glad they exist. I was surprised at how very different they were. The Supra had the better engine and chassis dynamics. It feels very polished and high tech. The Z had a better overall design and an old school, analog drivers car feel I found missing in the somewhat sanitized and digital Supra. I thought the Z had more soul and was more fun to drive fast. It's a personal preference thing.They are both quick, handle great and are very entertaining. You really can't go wrong with either one.
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 4 дня назад
I agree with that!
@HotGritz910
@HotGritz910 11 месяцев назад
Which would yall choose between these and a 2014 c63 amg 507 edition?
@yootoobed
@yootoobed 10 месяцев назад
Z or bmw ? No Contest. Z is Japanese heritage. All the right stuff. The batmobile is no comparison.
@waynenicholas1493
@waynenicholas1493 11 месяцев назад
Great comparison of two iconic JDM. Also, I love the seamless edits. Great job. 👍🏾
@steve8803
@steve8803 11 месяцев назад
@waynenicholas1493 The Supra is not JDM. It's GDM. It's a BMW Z4 in a toyota skin.
@WhiteComet_CA
@WhiteComet_CA 10 месяцев назад
@@steve8803Guess the Z is also “GDM” since the transmission is a Mercedes 🤡
@steve8803
@steve8803 10 месяцев назад
@@WhiteComet_CA The car was still engineered and designed by Nissan. I understand that parts are globally sourced. Just like BMW globally sources parts for the Z4/Supra.
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
Thanks! 👍
@lezzeppelin2222
@lezzeppelin2222 6 месяцев назад
@@steve8803Rice mixed potatoes 😂
@QuanTran-ev6dg
@QuanTran-ev6dg 6 дней назад
Should have gone with the Carbonio front mounting plate. Works well and looks good on my Supra without having to drill any holes. Great video!
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 4 дня назад
Yeah if it was my car I’d do the same!
@bb57365
@bb57365 6 месяцев назад
Like the Z value option. Would love to see it in a drop top. And better exhaust.
@mannyrosado9887
@mannyrosado9887 11 месяцев назад
Beautiful, powerful, unique. A debate of taste. However, they again are making these machines unaffordable and that was what got them extinct in the first place.
@vette6600
@vette6600 11 месяцев назад
Deciding factor for me is sound of inline 6 over the v6. Especially if going aftermarket, I think the Supra sounds much better. Otherwise, various trade-offs between both cars.
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
Agreed
@2seep
@2seep 8 месяцев назад
You have to listen to tj hunts video if you think that. The vr30 sounds so good. But you need full downpipes for that. The vr30 has 4 catalytic converts which muffles it sound wayy too much. The Supra has only 1 catalytic converters which is why you can hear it more.
@afoolandhismoneychannel
@afoolandhismoneychannel 11 месяцев назад
Z wins for being an actual Japanese sports car.
@kinetixdg
@kinetixdg 11 месяцев назад
its french, nice try with ur unoriginal comment.
@Matt-oj2kl
@Matt-oj2kl 11 месяцев назад
​@@kinetixdgrenault had nothing to do with the z. Supra is a bmw with a toyota badge slapped on it.
@nomadenview
@nomadenview 10 месяцев назад
@@kinetixdg buddy please stop smoking crack.....
@djflashlinx5150
@djflashlinx5150 11 месяцев назад
Looking forward to seeing Toyota put the GR Corolla engine into the 86, probably will outsell both the Supra & Z combined.
@Jetfire7
@Jetfire7 10 месяцев назад
I highly doubt this will happen. The 86 is all about low COG (need a boxer engine) , anything inline / turbo is most likely out. I'm sure someone will do a engine swap, at some point . Plus the 86 /BRZ is a collaboration , where Subaru mainly brings to the table the boxer engine
@georgeownz216
@georgeownz216 11 месяцев назад
the taillights on the z look cool too bad the front looks derpy
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
Lol yeah the taillights are cool and the front is eh
@JPTinioMedia
@JPTinioMedia 3 месяца назад
The front is legit a design of the 240z bumper with the open grill.
@FeistyPineapple
@FeistyPineapple 11 месяцев назад
What breaks my heart is that there are no real available Zs right now due to manufacturing difficulties (paint) hence the huge mark up :/
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 8 месяцев назад
Been waiting almost 2y for my factory order in Canada which is big sad but I really vibe with the Z and am ok with waiting
@sppoitier1
@sppoitier1 8 месяцев назад
The Z is my choice all day everyday.
@Now_or_Never_777
@Now_or_Never_777 10 месяцев назад
The Toyota Supra with the BMW B58 engine. I vote for inline-6 over V6 any day.
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
Agreed
@saulespino2510
@saulespino2510 7 месяцев назад
No mention of the wish bone front suspension of the Z? hmm
@badboy-gn8fu
@badboy-gn8fu 11 месяцев назад
imo the 400Z is the better cruiser which i prefer.
@djflashlinx5150
@djflashlinx5150 11 месяцев назад
Nissan, split grill please on that Z!!!
@crow_2k11beatsbydre8
@crow_2k11beatsbydre8 11 месяцев назад
Who is the supplier for the Nissan Z manual?..........
@gurgenmakaryan4428
@gurgenmakaryan4428 4 месяца назад
Both looks very nice, pros and cons for both, supra sounds very nicly, but that Z... old school hand break, hooligan look, .. has something more involving, more attaching. I'm goning with..
@marcmoreno4500
@marcmoreno4500 5 месяцев назад
Wtf the no handbrake in the "supra" just blows my mind
@bobb.7899
@bobb.7899 11 месяцев назад
having a front license plate really takes away from the beauty of these cars.
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 11 месяцев назад
Yep :/
@NGT4LIFE
@NGT4LIFE 7 месяцев назад
Not in England
@FallenArtemie
@FallenArtemie 10 месяцев назад
Great conclusion. A lot of reviews have ruled out the Z completely because the Supra is faster but posing the Z as a touring/cruiser is probably better. Plus, since it's cheaper to start with it's also cheaper to modify to spec whereas the Supra will always be a costlier build. For that, these two are the same. Not to mention, they are the last of their breed before the EVs push out the enthusiast vehicles.
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
Yeah I agree, def cheaper so more mod money so it equals out
@dino91001
@dino91001 8 месяцев назад
Supra for the win 😎 🔥
@eamorrison859
@eamorrison859 10 месяцев назад
It's not the Z vs the Supra. It's the Z vs Toyota and Beamer.
@audieo575
@audieo575 11 месяцев назад
"Us against Them" ....well stated! Truly sad dying breed. These dinosaur little giants end the era with a Bang!
@DCProdigy
@DCProdigy 8 месяцев назад
Is that Supra stock? It sounds amazing
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 7 месяцев назад
Yes haha
@Geor_546
@Geor_546 2 месяца назад
That’s because theirs fake exhaust sounds coming out of the speakers
@Jetfire7
@Jetfire7 10 месяцев назад
Modern day 6cyl , RWD, turbo charged cars under $60k , this is where it's at. However, I'd prefer a 240sx .... or FR-S/ 86 /BRZ , to wring out that HP/torque (more useable power 100% of the time) , drift , light weight RWD , good MPG cars ... under $35k .
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
yeah for fun to value, I'm in love with the GR86 and its siblings
@hartsickdisciple
@hartsickdisciple Месяц назад
The BMW Supra is a better numbers car, but I like the Z better. It has more personality, and in my opinion looks much better. Plus there's the fact that Nissan has only built about 100 of them per month since they were released. You just don't see very many of them on the road. I'm not a BMW hater (used to own an m240i w/manual transmission), but I think Toyota dropped the ball by not building their own car.
@nickmuaythaiandfitness
@nickmuaythaiandfitness 10 месяцев назад
Are you guys not giving the original Z’s credit? You can tell they designed it with the 70’s Z’s in mind
@thebeerhunter817
@thebeerhunter817 3 месяца назад
I like that the nissan is still a Japanese car.
@supra8544
@supra8544 10 месяцев назад
I’m waiting for the Porsche Supra.
@m7md4x4
@m7md4x4 10 месяцев назад
Once upon a time, the Supra used to compete with the GTR, now with the Z GTR in its own league
@carboydorifutoparty3976
@carboydorifutoparty3976 10 месяцев назад
Supra always competed against the Z even in the case of the mk4. The gtr even back then was in a totally different segment compared to the supra. They were never meant to compete anyway but were only compared because they had similar power to each other but still stayed in their respective classes regardless.
@jianghutong
@jianghutong 10 месяцев назад
where is this road you driving on?
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
Forks of credit
@jianghutong
@jianghutong 9 месяцев назад
@@Sleepygarage cheers buddie, it is so hard to find some curvy roads to drive around GTA
@LifebyDesign
@LifebyDesign 11 месяцев назад
Drilling into the bumper should be a crime
@punkeded
@punkeded 10 месяцев назад
I like the supra design , but I will take the nissan z and put pandem bodykit 👍
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
Would be hella dope!
@andycalifornia426
@andycalifornia426 11 месяцев назад
Guys, you all keep saying you're "sure" BMW engines are underrated for power. B58 has been out there for years -- has no one dino'ed one yet? Let's put an end to this speculation. I tell you the reason it feels more than 380 HP is because when normal cars say X HP, that's peak HP, which means you don't get that power until you rev it out. Turbo engines move that peak power lower in the RPM range, so you can get most of that power in normal the RPM range. Just dino it!
@Dulanor
@Dulanor 10 месяцев назад
Serious question ...... Are you retarded?
@gschmarri2014
@gschmarri2014 6 месяцев назад
The reality is that bmw quotes whp and not bhp like everyone else
@andycalifornia426
@andycalifornia426 6 месяцев назад
@@gschmarri2014 Which means all these "BMW is underrating their engines" morons are factually wrong. I'm a keyboard warrior with little real-world experience with serious machinery -- and I'm more correct than the dudes who actually drive this machinery. How do guys who manage to get a press car for a review fail to think to ask the company, which they obviously have access to, and instead choose to engage in this gossip?? So clueless...
@4renzicfiles92
@4renzicfiles92 10 месяцев назад
Love the review but to say those engines are legendary is very questionable. Now if you want to say the VQ and 2jz are legendary that'll go without question
@melbrowne3370
@melbrowne3370 Месяц назад
Z with an aftermarket exhaust, and tires
@oz41R
@oz41R 11 месяцев назад
Supra for driving and Z for its beauty! Problem with the Supra is they stuffed all of the FT-01 design elements into a car the size of a BMW Z4. It’s too busy. Plus, it’s a “BMW” Supra! Verdict: buy the Z and drive with dignity😂….or buy the Z4.
@carboydorifutoparty3976
@carboydorifutoparty3976 10 месяцев назад
Mk5 is based off the 2000gt which is why it's small like it is and the ft1 concept later became what the LC500 is. There isn't much dignity when Nissan can barely sell or bring out the Z's as is when they even stopped production on them since they had issues with them.
@oz41R
@oz41R 10 месяцев назад
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 Toyota now outsources both the Supra and GR86 to BMW and Subaru, respectively. I wish they had used the Lexus LC platform for the Supra. See, Subaru they partially own so it kinda makes sense but outsourcing to BMW is like Chevy asking Ford to make the next generation Camaro!!
@carboydorifutoparty3976
@carboydorifutoparty3976 10 месяцев назад
@@oz41R Lc platform is too heavy and isn't really good to use for a sportscar. They wanted the mk5 to go against the cayman/370z at the time so using that chassis would've been a major step back in using it. It's not abnormal anyway when toyo quiet literally used chevys own cavalier,rebadged it, and literally used it in jgtc and even had a trd kit for if also.
@Daniel-xb3ot
@Daniel-xb3ot 10 месяцев назад
The Supra is better in every way. Even though the Z came out years after the Supra it’s still based on the old Z and is not as fast in a straight line or track.
@stealthg35infiniti94
@stealthg35infiniti94 10 месяцев назад
I would be fearful of Bring Money Withyou (BMW) lack of long term reliability in the Supra. Nissan these days is not known for their reliability either since joining up with Renault. You better have deep pockets if plan keeping these an extended period of time.
@carlosizz89
@carlosizz89 11 месяцев назад
Nissan for me, spend the money diff on mods and tuning and we'll see whos the better sport car. At the end of the day the nissan is all nissan not a confused bmw.
@touayaaj84
@touayaaj84 11 месяцев назад
You know you can’t change the chassis no matter how much you try. The Z is chassis is a sedan chassis that is over 20 years old. The Supra is a grounds up bespoke sports car chassis. No matter how much you money you put in the Z, it will never handle better than the Supra. You can keep that bmw joke because no Z is gapping a Supra with same money spent on both cars.
@mhockey1736
@mhockey1736 11 месяцев назад
Good thing the chassis doesn’t need to be changed because it’s solid. Other than age, can you name a specific, technical flaw in the chassis that warrants a redesign? It may share the FM platform with other Nissan performance models, but no other car rides on the Z chassis so this “sedan chassis” notion is utter nonsense. Also a simple flash tune on a base Z is more than enough to gap a stock Supra, with plenty of money left over.
@carlosizz89
@carlosizz89 11 месяцев назад
@@touayaaj84 I was referring to purchase price of course if you put 20k on both cars the supra comes out ahead. Hey if you got money to spend go nuts and get the supra the rest of us peasants will have to do with the z and pull wrenches like real car enthusiasts.
@lukaswhite362
@lukaswhite362 11 месяцев назад
​@@touayaaj84 have you driven either of these cars? Lmao. Never knew Nissan Zs were a "sedan chassis" I'm pretty sure the last one was a coupe, and the last, and the last. The Z also has double wishbone suspension which would make it more stable. And when you say same money spent on both cars does that include the 20 grand extra you pay at the dealer for the supra or?
@LifebyDesign
@LifebyDesign 11 месяцев назад
​@@mhockey1736Chassis not that solid tho lol
@dominickvelezjr9171
@dominickvelezjr9171 11 месяцев назад
B58 > VR30. This coming from a Nissan guy.
@bolatkhannurlan4374
@bolatkhannurlan4374 6 часов назад
I think if u compare Nismo Z edition it would be different from what I saw , nismo editon was better choice.
@chartreux8673
@chartreux8673 11 месяцев назад
The basic chassis design of the Z is older, and the actual power of the B58 is higher. Unless you like the design of the Z, you should pick the Supra. But if you drive with MT, Z is good. The Supra's MT and pedal layout are in a weird position.
@2seep
@2seep 11 месяцев назад
This is why the z isn’t ecu locked. Fbo s and a tune 450 wheel horsepower. You won’t have to go through the hassle of sending the ecu to get it unlocked.
@carboydorifutoparty3976
@carboydorifutoparty3976 11 месяцев назад
​@@2seeppretty sure it's tunable or ams and Z1 motors wouldn't have been able to casually pump out the kind of power that they have in theirs the moment they got them. Say,there just needs to be more Z"s cause no one's seeming to try and push the platform much at all yet really.
@GuruSan88
@GuruSan88 10 месяцев назад
No need to think twice about this!...Z, hands down!...As an enthusiast, I want nothing to do with "Z-upra"! ...I love the older models of Supra -- NOT the current "Z-upra"!
@calvinchau6873
@calvinchau6873 9 месяцев назад
These cars aren't even comparable. The Z still feels like a boat and is one step behind the Supra in every conceivable way. You definitely know where Nissan went to cut corners. Car is heavier then the Supra, car has lag with the twin turbo setup idk how they managed that. Lets be honest. The Z is a recycled regurgitated 370z that Nissan dealers are killing you with mark ups. Not to mention it won't even let you turn traction control fully off and rev it out. When the Z has less then half a tank of gas it starts cutting timing. So many negatives.
@Thrilla604
@Thrilla604 10 месяцев назад
And still from January of 2022 placing a preorder deposit directly to nissan canada, i have not received any information or a allocation to my order so by default the z loses
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
Yeah its not easy to get an allocation for one now especially in Canada :(
@peterbiviano747
@peterbiviano747 2 месяца назад
Can’t Decide Z or type r !!
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 2 месяца назад
Type r!
@cpapumisteriosofitnesdelfu1900
@cpapumisteriosofitnesdelfu1900 Месяц назад
Z
@Terrarium86
@Terrarium86 8 месяцев назад
I think the Z can do better with a better launch and shifting
@Pharaoh_The_Great
@Pharaoh_The_Great 11 месяцев назад
At least they made the “Supra” (BMW) a manual… though it doesn’t have a manual e brake, at least they tried because people was getting too comfortable driving an auto which isn’t good. So they get props for that… a lot of companies don’t recreate a chassis with a manual if it wasn’t meant to be.
@garrettlake4181
@garrettlake4181 3 месяца назад
Great vid. Bad driving position.
@Ybshy
@Ybshy 5 месяцев назад
How do you compare these two cars when is genuine Japanese and not a bmw Bupra!
@garrenturk4093
@garrenturk4093 11 месяцев назад
Supra is clearly the better car
@kyshro
@kyshro 11 месяцев назад
Supra looks better and drives better!
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube 10 месяцев назад
BMW .... get it right
@deshawn2877
@deshawn2877 10 месяцев назад
Supra all day, Nissan designer need to get fire
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
LOL
@hartsickdisciple
@hartsickdisciple Месяц назад
What? The car is gorgeous.
@e.fooyoung7451
@e.fooyoung7451 11 месяцев назад
*1:33* PROLLY(Wrong. No) *Probably(Correct. Yes).*
@disboifromja
@disboifromja 11 месяцев назад
that BMW badge has me sick if they go back to a JZ motor ill think about buying one
@stefakyou6103
@stefakyou6103 11 месяцев назад
You're 4 years too late
@disboifromja
@disboifromja 11 месяцев назад
@@stefakyou6103 i know
@jollyrogers5261
@jollyrogers5261 11 месяцев назад
Classic Japanese rivals! Even though the Supra is BMW in disguise.
@stevejohnson2108
@stevejohnson2108 11 месяцев назад
And that is a bad thing? That straight 6 is epic.
@jollyrogers5261
@jollyrogers5261 11 месяцев назад
@@stevejohnson2108 No, it’s not a bad thing. BMW has its place. I’m sure the straight six is epic. So was the legendary straight six of the old Supra, but it didn’t say BMW on it 😂. Plus they are more reliable 👍
@stevejohnson2108
@stevejohnson2108 10 месяцев назад
@@jollyrogers5261 Recent surveys point to this being one of the most reliable engines right now. BMW has come a long way from the mid 2010s with their reliability.
@ExtremelyOnlineGuy
@ExtremelyOnlineGuy 11 месяцев назад
Supra for me. I lost all faith in Nissan as a manufacturer a long time ago. The z is nice but the unavailability of them, the boring engine and aesthetics just turn me off.
@Soldadummy
@Soldadummy 11 месяцев назад
Wait, no Android auto in the Supra?
@tomweaver7723
@tomweaver7723 11 месяцев назад
People have androids?
@Soldadummy
@Soldadummy 11 месяцев назад
@@tomweaver7723 Android is software not a group of softwares. Thus your statement should be "Do people use Android software" But as a fenced in iPhone user I understand this is difficult to grasp. So I'll forgive it. I got ya.
@RashidLikesBlank
@RashidLikesBlank 11 месяцев назад
​@tomweaver7723 how did you know I'm from the US.
@tomweaver7723
@tomweaver7723 11 месяцев назад
@@Soldadummy you’ll be ok sport
@bluehydro88
@bluehydro88 11 месяцев назад
One of the things that's kind of has me baffled is why Toyota, a car company known for their reliability, have BMW, a car company that's known to be wildly unreliable, build their Halo car.... I mean, it's a nice car right now that it's new but we all know in 5 years it's going to break everywhere, right?
@jadentha1090
@jadentha1090 11 месяцев назад
It would take forever to develop a straight six turbo engine from scratch to live up to the it's predecessor 2jz engine. the b58 is a straight 6 turbo and toyota made their own tweaks to the engine/tuning of the engine before the car went on the market. As an owner of a 2021 supra, I have daily driven the car almost 30k miles and I've had NO issues at all with the car, even with aftermarket parts on the car.
@bluehydro88
@bluehydro88 11 месяцев назад
@jadentha1090 Yeah, I understand. However, toyota has turbo i6 engines.. they use them a ton of cars all over the world.. even in land cruisers. As for reliability. It's not the engines themselves that have issues. It's everything else around them. For example, in our shop, we have a ton of bmw's with messed-up sensors, plastic that just crumbles.. parts that should be made of metal but aren't, etc.. your car is running fine right now because it's still new (time wise). With BMW, it's not about the miles you put on them.. it's about the time they have been around.. it's like the plastic that holds everything together, pipes, lines, sensors, has an expiration date before it just..... breaks. That's why I call them Cinderella cars... amazing and perfect at the ball, but if you don't get back and sell it before your 5 years is up, they turn to trash, and you're left walking
@jeromep3182
@jeromep3182 10 месяцев назад
Not all bmw are unreliable for starters and bmw sells lots of cars even with the reliability issues they are emotional cars. Fun to drive and engaging. And I’ve owned both bmws abs a Toyota Supra. secondly bmw know how to build performance as well. And thirdly Toyota didn’t want to build a Supra with a Nissan GTR OR LEXUS LFA price tag by building it from scratch like what what did with the Lexus LFA
@jadentha1090
@jadentha1090 10 месяцев назад
@@bluehydro88 fair point, it is early to tell now but so far it's been very great. No issues so far.
@philjackett-simpson5149
@philjackett-simpson5149 9 месяцев назад
I've owned two of these supras, one I ran over 100000 km , I never had anything go wrong with them. I owned a 370z nismo aswell, the supra is alot quicker off the mark.
@Clutch_Kick187
@Clutch_Kick187 6 месяцев назад
Fuckin traction control.. I never use it.. it becomes a hugely terrible crutch.. My 22 SS 1LE has about 4 levels of t/c and its off along with esc always, unless I get caught in rain.. It makes bad habits of just flooring your car when you shouldn't.. Its much faster to learn to modulate and accelerate thru and out of corners like your supposed to.. I guess I just can't stand the feeling of pulling power and closing throttle all the time.. I grew up driving fast stick rwd cars well b4 traction control was even a thing.. But it taught me to learn to feel the car, and read what its doing, the 1LE is not a car on a knifes edge, and easily caught, but there is a lot to be said about learning cornering, straight line braking, on throttle thru corners, left foot braking, ect.. Being in the correct gear is also huge, cars are easier to catch when your up in the rev range than on the bottom end of the tq peak.. IE:keep it above peak tq..
@IDontKnow-bb6mt
@IDontKnow-bb6mt 11 месяцев назад
Supra is hands down the better car
@TheDweezy87
@TheDweezy87 11 месяцев назад
B58 destroys that motor, but the z look sick?
@RashidLikesBlank
@RashidLikesBlank 11 месяцев назад
What's B58?
@maxislas3141
@maxislas3141 11 месяцев назад
@@RashidLikesBlankthe engine in the Supra
@TheGnarTube
@TheGnarTube 8 дней назад
This is not a fair competition. The supra is far superior
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 4 дня назад
I agree lol
@israelmaraddag1917
@israelmaraddag1917 9 месяцев назад
I dont Understand why you compare TOYOTA SUPRA VS NISSAN Z not NISSAN GTR?
@alexhardy373
@alexhardy373 4 месяца назад
How would they compare a mk5 supra to a GTR? The GTR is 2x as expensive.
@dontezcristol3017
@dontezcristol3017 2 месяца назад
The Supra looks boring to me, but Im biased and now own a 24 performance Z. I did test drive the Supra and it simply wasnt my taste.
@ryancrawford8042
@ryancrawford8042 11 месяцев назад
1 is too busy, the other too plain
@precisionmotors
@precisionmotors 11 месяцев назад
I rather Take the Supra over the Z any day. BMW will last longer than the Z and less trips to Dealerships for repairs. If Toyota believes in BMW so do I. Plus Supra is miles ahead with that sexy car than the Z just boring.
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 11 месяцев назад
Haha yeah I agree
@ryancrawford8042
@ryancrawford8042 11 месяцев назад
Boring? I would say ugly
@mperformance3502
@mperformance3502 11 месяцев назад
Non car people will mistaken that Z to every other poorly modded beat up 350z and 370z on the street
@LifebyDesign
@LifebyDesign 11 месяцев назад
Z is fugly and I don't care what anyone says.
@Moonlight-uv7jo
@Moonlight-uv7jo 11 месяцев назад
Nissan always put trashy tires on sport cars can u imagine q50 red sport has Dunlop runflat with traction rating B? Even tires on Pirus way better
@MarkPhilly-tp2wq
@MarkPhilly-tp2wq 3 дня назад
A Toyota with bmw guts.. Take my money ❤
@ARentz07
@ARentz07 11 месяцев назад
I'm really bummed that the Supra doesn't have Android Auto. I would honestly take it over the Z anyway, but still. 😢
@iconicshade
@iconicshade 11 месяцев назад
I'd take the Supra over the Z every day of the week.
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube 10 месяцев назад
Bmw
@sheechan8407
@sheechan8407 10 месяцев назад
Can't stand the look of the supra. But I've to walk away from the Z if it can't fit my golf bag
@Sleepygarage
@Sleepygarage 9 месяцев назад
Lol the dilema for this is crazy
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