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TRACK TEST FAIL - 2024 Tesla Model 3 Performance battery temp cuts power! 

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This is the NEW 2024 Tesla Model 3 performance "Highland" - the UK version with what we assume to be 79 kWh battery and 460 BHP (compared to US versions with 82 kWh and 510 HP) and we are putting it the race track to see how it performs!
Tesla promises better suspension, adaptive dampers, better brakes, better performance and improved aerodynamics so to put this to the test we visit Thruxton race circuit, the fastest circuit in the UK (despite having no real straights!).
We've driven this track before with the previous Model 3 Performance so we can compare exactly what it's like.
The answer: well it handles nicely, the stock brakes are better BUT.. and it's a massive BUT.. after 3 or 4 laps the battery is overheating and cutting the power. Not just once but each time we tested it.
Is it something Tesla can fix with software updates? Is it limited by hardware?
Does this mean it's not fit for purpose?
I''m left very disappointed. :-(
Tesla are carrying out remote diagnostics as we speak and analysing the data so I will pin a comment with updates.
Thanks for watching.
Richard Symons
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@RSEV
@RSEV 10 дней назад
Update: Tesla have been reviewing the data remotely (which is fantastic!) and can confirm the car has zero faults evident. Coolant pumps etc operating as should. They can see when battery reaches 60 deg Celsius that the output Kw is reduced. They have raised to engineering but essentially, unless can somehow be tweaked with software updates, that this is simply a limitation with the car. Not fit for purpose then…😢
@iambenmitchell
@iambenmitchell 10 дней назад
So sad, wonder if they never tested the MIC or MIB and only tested the US cars. How/who did you insure the car for the track? I’d love to take a polestar 2 onto thruxton when I purchase one one day
@techevo
@techevo 10 дней назад
It doesn't surprise me. Cylindrical cells just can't get the heat out fast enough due to the surface area to volume ratio of that type of cell. A pouch cell as in the Ioniq 5N is a much better shape for thermal management due to it's inherent design. The MP3 is a great road car, but not great for anything other than one lap flat out on track.
@devonbikefilms
@devonbikefilms 10 дней назад
Be interesting to see how the Hyundai N model fairs in similar circumstances. To be fair they don’t sell it as a race car. Having driven a few, they make awful road cars 😂😂
@whlphil
@whlphil 10 дней назад
@@techevogiven the previous car didn’t have the same issue with the same design cell I wouldn’t think that’s the whole story. Suspect it’s more to do with the LG cell rather than the 2170 hence why the US cars are rated with more power Anyway should all be solved when the finally get the CATL Qilin
@bryanduncan6178
@bryanduncan6178 10 дней назад
What colour Ioniq 5N are you going to get?!
@moa2252
@moa2252 10 дней назад
Kia EV6 and Ioniq5 N are far better about heat management of the pack. Ioniq5 can drive 2 full laps at Nurb. Power is not everything.
@eb1888.
@eb1888. 10 дней назад
The Ioniq N seems to have good battery cooling. A comparative run would be interesting.
@Theocurrie
@Theocurrie 10 дней назад
Great to hear from John, guys definitely knows his stuff 👍
@Maxaker
@Maxaker 10 дней назад
What about testing the IONIQ 5 N ?
@madsdgdhg
@madsdgdhg 10 дней назад
Maybe test the Hyundai Ionic 5N in the same track... to show Tesla how it's done. 😆
@bEEBO178
@bEEBO178 6 дней назад
I wouldn't want to roll in a Hunday
@Aztasu
@Aztasu 5 дней назад
@@bEEBO178 well you wouldn't have the money for it
@martinfay7274
@martinfay7274 10 дней назад
Great video (thank you) but a very disappointing performance from the battery pack.😢
@techevo
@techevo 10 дней назад
Tesla aren't really interested in making a proper track ready EV, they want to sell millions of cars, and that's their priority. That's not going to change anytime soon. 5 years after the original 2019 M3P, they have only improved the rear motor in regards to performance, and the MIC cars are a backstep in regards to the battery. The battery in the US car is basically the same, and will de-rate after approx 3 minutes on track as it's having to deliver around 80bhp more. Compare that to the Ioniq5N which is pushing 640bhp and can run flat out for 2 laps of the Ring. Disappointing, but the reality of using cylindrical cells.
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 9 дней назад
Then why do they have a track mode and call this a "performance" model? U do realize performance= speed, handling, and braking .. right? Not just a quick acceleration from stop light to stop light. This isn't a perfromance car if that's all it offers. Plus it's top speed is trash
@techevo
@techevo 9 дней назад
​@@G82Watts- I'm talking about the performance of the drivetrain and battery, not the performance of the car as a whole.
@smc419
@smc419 10 дней назад
I would like to see this car vs the IONIQ 5 N. They are saying the 5 N doesn't overheat.
@StefanoFinocchiaro
@StefanoFinocchiaro 10 дней назад
Doesn't overheat becaue it doesn't preaheat the battery so it start with slower performance. Tesla should add a similar option
@juliandclarke
@juliandclarke 9 дней назад
@@StefanoFinocchiaro I think there are at least 2 race settings with Ioniq 5 N. Depending on the type of track. I’m waiting for mine to be delivered so will be interesting to investigate
@johnnymiller1000
@johnnymiller1000 8 дней назад
@@juliandclarkethat’s right, not done it on mine yet but there is an N endurance mode that pares back power a little for longer sessions.
@techevo
@techevo 7 дней назад
​@@StefanoFinocchiaro- That's exactly what Tesla does with Track Mode. It COOLS the battery as much as possible, by overclocking the aircon compressor and transferring heat out of the battery coolant and oil system for the motors via the octovalve.
@StefanoFinocchiaro
@StefanoFinocchiaro 7 дней назад
@@techevo No, it warms the battery for maximum performance. It try to keep the battery to a set temperature
@NO3V
@NO3V 10 дней назад
Did you try a session with less regen?
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm 10 дней назад
Brakes will overheat even quicker
@tv-ld3wv
@tv-ld3wv 10 дней назад
100% will make a big difference But it's LG chem😢
@lbtobl83
@lbtobl83 10 дней назад
Brakes would be toast after 3rd curve 😊
@richardhc76
@richardhc76 8 дней назад
Change out the pads for XP10 then all good with lower regen
@Pus1
@Pus1 7 дней назад
Regen makes a huge differnece. I drove my 21 mod 3 performance on the ring and when going over 40% regen the battery gets hot. Worth noting that i have aftermarket brakes so i can push them a bit more
@krispyywombat7382
@krispyywombat7382 10 дней назад
Sounds like it’ll need cooling mods for extended use, and some of the usual tweaks like the last M3P. Still excited to see the full potential of this car realized
@alfie217
@alfie217 10 дней назад
I’m a big fan of Tesla however this is a massive disappointment and I agree with you not fit for purpose. You have all the software under the Sun so you can go happily round of track on a track day only for it not to perform😡 Wow they’re gonna get some recalls. I like it too getting a radio control car at Christmas unwrapping it out of the box charging the battery and with great anticipation you get one minute to use it things haven’t come on since the eighties to be fair and I really don’t wanna say the obvious , you wouldn’t get this from an ice car
@waterthink7
@waterthink7 10 дней назад
테슬라에서 트랙패키지가 없어도 트랙을 달릴 수 있게 만들었다더니 거짓말이네 ㅋㅋ
@pstarke1066
@pstarke1066 8 дней назад
기술적으로 그게 가능했으면 이번에 5n이 기록세운 파익스피크에 나왔겠죠ㅎㅎ
@dooflexible
@dooflexible 9 дней назад
Very informative video thanks!
@SvikDK
@SvikDK 10 дней назад
Sorry, but what a joke of a performence car. 2 laps on this small circuit, and it´s dead.
@NIAtoolkit
@NIAtoolkit 10 дней назад
I wonder if the US-spec battery exhibits similar thermal characteristics
@4literv6
@4literv6 10 дней назад
It pretty much does, several shared videos of track runs at Laguna seca shows you get 1 or 2 basically all out laps before. The stock tires and brakes cause fall off and battery temps cause power reduction to kick in. It does lap with a c8 though for half price. 😀 So it's a much better built and much more capable overall car for cheaper than a pre highland m3p was. But the battery itself&the cooling system, with small for the perf sized brakes and not true high perf tires. Means it's a fun quick canyon carver that costs 55k&runs high 10s. Vs being anything serious for a fun track day without additional bolt on parts&tires. But that is also true of most ALL vehicle's sold. 😎👍🏻
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 9 дней назад
Also tesla is having problems with cars sitting in the heat outside actually losing miles by just sitting outside and the battery draining. 😂 insanity
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 9 дней назад
​@@4literv6that's true for most cars? U can't be serious dude lmfao. 1 or 2 laps around 1 min short tracks like that then it starts overheating and the brakes also go bad? 😂😂 that's true for almost no true sports car in this day and age. Imagine if porsche or bmw had those problems. Their would be massive recall and it would be blown out of this world on car channels .
@BigD4Real.
@BigD4Real. 4 дня назад
@@G82Watts that is because the car has cabin overheat protection is on and can be turned off in the settings.
@SimonLant
@SimonLant 10 дней назад
Joe with his arms folded after the first run look super cheesed off 😂 nice video, shame on the limitations you found.
@silverstoned83
@silverstoned83 10 дней назад
The LG pack definitely has a higher internal resistance, resulting in decreased charge and discharge performance when compared to the Panasonic variant.
@oggyoggy1299
@oggyoggy1299 9 дней назад
What is the LG resistance and the Panasonic’s?
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 9 дней назад
Both versions are overheating after just 1 lap.
@wonderboy75
@wonderboy75 10 дней назад
Did you ever test the Polestar 2 Performance or BST version on a track? I'm curious how it performs in comparison. The PS2 Performance is comparable in price to the TM3P. You should definitely test the Ioniq 5 N when you get a chance. From what I have seen it can go on for much longer without issues. The new Polestar 3 and 4 will be interesting as well.
@kubben1
@kubben1 10 дней назад
Will you test it against the Hyundai Ioniq 5N? Would be interesting to see :)
@louisolivierfortin
@louisolivierfortin 10 дней назад
Other than 0-60mph the tesla will get slapped on all metrics unfortunately. The panasonic US car would be a better match but still not as capable on track compared ti the N.
@juanmedinar20
@juanmedinar20 10 дней назад
​@@louisolivierfortin the 5N weighs more than a Model S Plaid. I doubt it.
@louisolivierfortin
@louisolivierfortin 10 дней назад
@@juanmedinar20 I’m just an EV enthusiast who watched like 25 video reviews of the 5N, and it’s unanimous this thing is a beats even if it weighs 4800lbs. Great steering response, great handling, competent on and off track, great top end power (better than m3p with LG battery), etc. Looks like the best package as far as a car that can do it all
@bryanduncan6178
@bryanduncan6178 10 дней назад
The 5N can get to the top of Pikes Peak with no degradation and can cover 2 laps of the Nurburgring Nordschleife at full speed! There isn't a car currently available from Tesla that can match that.....
@sorinelpustiu5674
@sorinelpustiu5674 10 дней назад
​@@bryanduncan6178@bryanduncan6178 where did you read that no tesla can make 2 full laps of the Nurburgring? Or no power degradation at pikes peak?
@Sci-flyer
@Sci-flyer 10 дней назад
I ran my 2023 MY Perf on track, default 50/50 track setting, default regen, went a little easy on the brakes as i knew they would be the weak point (not unusual for a heavy street car on stock pads) and the only thing that got into the orange was the battery. tyres, motors, brakes, everything else was fine. Went from 96% SoC to about 20% no power loss, no issues. Agree they handle better than you would expect
@stennordenmalm9900
@stennordenmalm9900 10 дней назад
Track racing is to much to handle for any Tesla.
@mikaelvellmun7228
@mikaelvellmun7228 5 дней назад
You clearly haven't seen the track pack plaid
@philipf2705
@philipf2705 10 дней назад
Great video Richard and this is what makes me hesitant to purchase one here in Vancouver. I don't like the fact that the battery is different coming out of Shanghai and the Shanghai factory are where all of the Canadian Tesla's are coming from. Build quality and fit and finish may be better but the battery quality is IMPORTANT to me
@alex135789
@alex135789 10 дней назад
Learned a lot from your mistakes. Thanks.
@sxyrx7
@sxyrx7 10 дней назад
Did you leave "ride and Handling" in normal mode?
@greenhawx
@greenhawx 10 дней назад
Thanks for that video. I was considering this car as my next one. But now I have some thinking to do. Car with a track mode not able to run on a track. Not fit for purpose! Disappointing. Would be interesting to know how the battery temps behave on a German autobahn performing longer highspeed stretches?!
@JDDD33
@JDDD33 9 дней назад
Ionic 5N will be the car for you, but it will also require you depart with 1 testical (due to its increased price)
@THEZEST1357
@THEZEST1357 10 дней назад
In Australia later model 3 LR (pre face lift cars) had the LG 79kw packs and the higher internal resistance in my opinion is the issue with heat on track. I managed after a few laps to overheat my battery. I think the Panasonic 82kw with its significantly lower internal resistance can not only charge faster but produce less heat under load. It seems like 55c is optimal for charging and discharging quickly, but 60c they reach their thermal throttling limit. There's a video on my profile of track use with live battery stats of the LG 79kw pack. And this was back when max draw was 366kw not the ~400kw of the new performance.
@marcusgeorge1825
@marcusgeorge1825 10 дней назад
Give me an Ionic 5 N any day and twice on Sunday.
@sorinelpustiu5674
@sorinelpustiu5674 10 дней назад
Enjoy your 70,000£ Hyundai:)
@juliandclarke
@juliandclarke 9 дней назад
£60k M3P plays £65k 5N. Not sure about PCP rates
@bEEBO178
@bEEBO178 6 дней назад
Its still a hunday
@marcusgeorge1825
@marcusgeorge1825 6 дней назад
@@bEEBO178 and your point would be?
@juliandclarke
@juliandclarke 6 дней назад
@@bEEBO178 yep. Solidly built, well engineered Korean product
@Jaw0lf
@Jaw0lf 10 дней назад
Interesting stuff and John really knew what he was talking about. Hope Tesla can fix this through an update for you.
@shiyuri
@shiyuri 8 дней назад
The LG 79kWh battery was already in the 2022/2023 performance. How do those compare to the 2024 and older Performance Models both on track and on drag races? I remember you've tested an LG Model 3 Performance.
@colinwiseman
@colinwiseman 10 дней назад
Ha! Love that you're doing that there. My mate works there, which is nice.
@GaryJohnWalker1
@GaryJohnWalker1 10 дней назад
The Ariel in the background is what I want
@briankielberg2782
@briankielberg2782 10 дней назад
How did the tires hold up?
@pauln0371
@pauln0371 10 дней назад
Been a long time since I drove round Thruxton. 24 years tbh. But I was Driving a Ferrari 355 and a 360 Modena at the time. Absolutely amazing track👍👍
@brianmckenna3440
@brianmckenna3440 10 дней назад
Great video
@mikees60
@mikees60 10 дней назад
EX30 review coming?
@FRTLBN
@FRTLBN 10 дней назад
Hi Richard - When you get data from the US-version, I hope you will do an update video about how much difference the two battery packs makes on tracks. !
@saintsilvershade7575
@saintsilvershade7575 2 дня назад
Did you turn off regen mode when you were track testing? I've heard it keeps the battery cooler.
@spencerpieters5502
@spencerpieters5502 9 дней назад
Nice one for showing the truth, Richard. I love my Highland LR but I don’t think any Tesla is track material. You can give it an option called track mode and a few cool settings to fiddle with, but in the end it’s a great, efficient EV for the road which can accelerate very fast to give your family and mates a giggle. It’s not track material.
@brightbluesmurf
@brightbluesmurf 10 дней назад
Did you turn regen off by any chance?
@youcandoit7290
@youcandoit7290 10 дней назад
Looked like default had regenerate at 100% maybe try with regain off. to see how the battery holds up.
@danex070
@danex070 9 дней назад
It would been nice to have a full screen capture so the data you guys talking about we can see it, and you guys ran with a custom profile with 100% brake regen, reducing that would have save some battery temp.
@MrPindie
@MrPindie 10 дней назад
I have the LR Highland and it is very wobbly and scary above 100mph - bordering dangerous. The mud flaps scrape the ground often so it is pretty soft. My flaps are now half length compared to when new! The MP3 Highland is clearly more composed but a change in tyres etc would help it a lot. I am also wondering if it needs to be driven in a smooth manner rather than drive it like you stole it? Any road based car struggles on track if you drive it like that. My 2012 scooby did 8.1 mpg on track. That was around 80 miles from 70 litres of SUL.
@dominolehmann8227
@dominolehmann8227 9 дней назад
Just redo a measurement of the track of the car. It's much more stable afterwards
@ObiePaddles
@ObiePaddles 10 дней назад
Del Boy is a great driver.
@theipc-twizzt2789
@theipc-twizzt2789 9 дней назад
The 3 is not a track car and it was not built for this purpose. It's what Lars said in that JP interview. Adding to that the unfortunate LG battery.
@TheJAMF
@TheJAMF 10 дней назад
Any regen braking still on, or set to minimal or off?
@NO3V
@NO3V 10 дней назад
Was on 100% when they showed the selected Track Mode profile. 1:57
@TheJAMF
@TheJAMF 10 дней назад
​@@NO3VWeird that that is the standard setting. At least they can do a low setting on a personal profile.
@TheJAMF
@TheJAMF 10 дней назад
​@@NO3VAlso makes me wonder if they had the regen on low on the old M3P. Micha recommends having it on low when doing the Nürburgring Nordschleife. 🤔
@johnnymiller1000
@johnnymiller1000 8 дней назад
So in the UK we get lower power to begin with, and it still overheats in a short distance on track, even in UK temps. Wonder if the US cars with their battery pack fare any better? I was on the fence about chopping my 2020 M3P for one of these or the Ioniq 5N. Went with the Ioniq 5N, a few weeks in and glad i did….. just dropped my 2020 M3P off for sale at RSEV. Check them out if you’re looking for an EV. Great guys!
@nickolassnielsen
@nickolassnielsen 7 дней назад
Same for the us version. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pt3oUzjHxjw.htmlsi=Zc4rFDzrWsaUD4BT
@Deniseich
@Deniseich 10 дней назад
Can you provide the specifications of the race? It's really important to know because they can vary significantly between countries, race tracks, and race rules. 1. What was the temperature on that day? 2. How long did each race last in minutes approximately? How much rest did the Tesla have between races, and how many races were there in total? 3. At what points and for how long on the timeline do you really start to loose motor power, and how much power do you loose roughly in percentage terms? 4. The same for braking performance - when do you start to loose performance, how long does it last, and how much performance do you loose? This information is really interesting to know. Perhaps you mentioned some of this in your video, but I couldn't find it. I test-drove this Tesla M3P provided by a dealer, and it was intresting. I plan to buy this M3P next year and want to understand its limits. In Poland, we have 18 race tracks, and I've driven on one of them with different cars, which was really cool. Now I'm choosing between the RS3 and the M3P and trying to understand which would be better for me.
@chewthegum
@chewthegum 10 дней назад
I knew this would be a problem with the car because the lead engineer said it would be.. but it still hurts to see. Tesla needs a proper track day model.
@wensiangfong
@wensiangfong 3 дня назад
Using original brake pad or change to track brake pad?
@josefinkjellsson7051
@josefinkjellsson7051 9 дней назад
Left foot breaking possible?
@HBGP-007
@HBGP-007 8 дней назад
I received my M3P Highland ten days ago and have been driving it satisfactorily. However, from a performance and driving fun perspective, the best electric car at the moment is the Ioniq 5 N. Hyundai has excellent battery temperature control technology and has implemented gear shifting, which is something you usually see in internal combustion cars. It's really impressive.
@GaryJohnWalker1
@GaryJohnWalker1 10 дней назад
Tesla should dump LG, and stick to Panasonic/BYD/CATL - all a gen or two ahead just in terms of internal mgmnt
@user-ui7vo8kp3z
@user-ui7vo8kp3z 10 дней назад
I hope they will fix this issue with future updated m3p, next year perhaps?
@paulvink126
@paulvink126 9 дней назад
Should have got the 5N
@TheJAMF
@TheJAMF 10 дней назад
🤔The helmet on Gints looks small...
@Martin-dx5zs
@Martin-dx5zs 10 дней назад
Do you plan to review the Volvo EX30 twin motor?
@RSEV
@RSEV 10 дней назад
Yes! I have one at work waiting but not even had time to drive it yet. Coming soon
@Martin-dx5zs
@Martin-dx5zs 10 дней назад
Awesome, can’t wait! We’ve had our twin motor performance EX30 for a few weeks and it’s blown us away. Crazy performance and build quality for the money. Would be fun to see how it compares on track.
@sorinelpustiu5674
@sorinelpustiu5674 10 дней назад
​@@Martin-dx5zs what do you think of the infotainment system? And the screen itself? Do you also have the 1sec acceleration lag when you accelerate?
@Martin-dx5zs
@Martin-dx5zs 10 дней назад
Infotainment has been solid for us; buttery smooth. It’s also pin sharp. In terms of the throttle lag, that only occurs in normal mode (not AWD performance mode where the front motor is permanently engaged).
@Durzel
@Durzel 10 дней назад
Hopefully we’ll get the Panasonic battery in time, or a better one than the LG at least. It’s probably fine for driving normally, and charging, but not for this.
@Harrythehun
@Harrythehun 10 дней назад
The LG batteries may have a limitation. Those fricking LG batteries are a big liability for the car manufacturers.
@TimesNewRoumen
@TimesNewRoumen 10 дней назад
They should know at Tesla if they don’t by now.
@edward3366
@edward3366 9 дней назад
It is a problem not LG battery but battery cooling system of TESLA.
@boosterstrange
@boosterstrange 2 дня назад
No, the american one with a panasonic battery pack doesen't have this problem
@ElmoBHD
@ElmoBHD 6 дней назад
I've test drove one today. For everyday use its not worth the upgrade in price over the Standard range and nevermind the LR. It will be LR with 19" wheels for me.
@Mamba310
@Mamba310 5 дней назад
You need regen braking off. Also the Lg battery that comes in the EU/Asia version has these problems unfortunately. The US Panasonic version is fantastic tho
@BobSacamano-zg6yw
@BobSacamano-zg6yw 10 дней назад
Time to break into the cooling circuit and re-pipe it through a dry-ice pack. 😅
@jameschapman4824
@jameschapman4824 10 дней назад
Shame about that Richard. As a by I thought you might be at the Tesla Owners Club day at Bicester Heritage on Saturday.
@davebway6371
@davebway6371 9 дней назад
Really disappointed that you didn’t see the increased performance on track that I have seen.
@RSEV
@RSEV 9 дней назад
It feels better, brakes better, but top end speed not notable but then didn’t get chance to really stretch because battery overheats just as getting everything else warmed up.
@alastairhatt360
@alastairhatt360 10 дней назад
Yeah even though it’s a performance car it’s not a dedicated track car and that track had no let up for the battery to cool down or recover with slow chicanes etc. like other comments was the regen the issue? You need to drive it like a normal road car not a race car.
@BradFreebird
@BradFreebird 6 дней назад
Just had one of these on loan for the weekend. Not sure how they have managed this, but for all the improvements it somehow feels ‘cheaper’ than the last 2 generations of M3P. Whilst the cabin is well insulated from external noise, the NVH coming through the chassis when moving is simply not good enough. Tyre roar is one thing, but the noise from the suspension and in particular the front motor is very disappointing. Not convinced by the adaptive dampers - a 200 mile round trip down a mix of country roads, A roads, the M1 and driving into central London revealed a hard ride with sharp ridges being transmitted straight through the cabin (in standard mode). Sport mode was obviously worse. The new sports seats creak, and the noises of plastic on plastic coming from the dash area make it sound like one of those cassette trays from the 80’s is installed somewhere. The wheel trim aero pieces are also an issue - if you drive with the window open next to wall you can hear them rattling. Overall disappointing - it looks better, and they have addressed a number of previous issues but seemingly created more in the process. Worst of all, UK cars come with a compromised battery pack (see track overheating and reduced performance vs US cars). Unacceptable the prices other countries pay for this car - even more so at UK prices. Model 3LR is the smart choice if you must have a model 3 - even more so if/when acceleration boost is introduced. Lease rates seem to be £250 per month less that he M3P. I don’t buy the ‘Performance’ credentials of this M3P - they appear to be more cosmetic that of any real value day to day, and as RSEV has proved, not of any real advantage for the occasional track day. My money will be heading in the direction the Hyundai IONIC 5N.
@adamgentil2195
@adamgentil2195 10 дней назад
Looks like the Panasonic batteries are far superior to the LG ones, I wonder if the 82kw Panasonic battery from a 21 plate performance car would fit 🤔
@bEEBO178
@bEEBO178 6 дней назад
That still overheats as well. US drivers have reported driving at Laguna Seca
@davebway6371
@davebway6371 9 дней назад
It’s better than the modified old M3P. I’ve had both, and this is faster with battery performance much the same. Come to Castle Combe and I’ll show you.
@vhol93
@vhol93 9 дней назад
Cool
@djoldschool
@djoldschool 10 дней назад
I've driven many different cars and bikes on track and I can't say that I've ever wanted to drive any electric (road) car around any track. Regardless of the weight, there's no engine noise which is surely one of the joys of driving a car on track? Having also worked at a circuit for a couple of years, I could count on one hand, the number of people driving their 'road car' on circuit and I can't imagine many people building a Tesla racetrack only car. Shame about the battery problems but it seems Tesla did not spend a lot of time developing their performance model 3 for on-circuit use.
@torentmonkey
@torentmonkey 5 дней назад
Is this because of the different battery vs the US ?
@BadL_
@BadL_ 10 дней назад
Since this is the fastest track in the UK I wonder how much longer, if any, it would last on slower ones.
@mrmawson2438
@mrmawson2438 10 дней назад
brb time for tea
@juliandclarke
@juliandclarke 9 дней назад
Interesting to compare to Ioniq 5N
@RSEV
@RSEV 9 дней назад
Ioniq would unfortunately leave it behind… better high end speed, sustainable energy. Maybe braking not quite as good as its heavier but in reality it would trail the 5n I’m quite sure
@MichaelPanzer
@MichaelPanzer 7 дней назад
​@@RSEVthe Ioniq does up to 280kw of regen on braking so I don't think the brakes would be worse compared. It delivers impressive numbers everywhere it is tried right now
@mattx4253
@mattx4253 10 дней назад
That’s pretty piss poor for a £60k car which is supposed to be a performance car
@alstonmiller212
@alstonmiller212 10 дней назад
Their is a better version where an actual driver has done
@israelmercado9692
@israelmercado9692 10 дней назад
It’s not a bargain at all in the uk that’s ridiculous that it’s equivalent to 76k US. I got mine for 46k US after tax credit which is insane. And I have more peak power than them.
@mattx4253
@mattx4253 10 дней назад
@@israelmercado9692 in the Us with tax credits it’s a good buy for a fast car. Problem starts though when you drive it fast. You can cook the breaks and the battery it seems. That could kill you if you fade brakes in the wrong corner
@JonathanHighfield
@JonathanHighfield 10 дней назад
My 21-plate model 3 long range lease is up the end of July… I was looking at treating myself to the performance Model 3… but having watched this… I'm not sure it is worth the extra £420 per month over a long range
@bEEBO178
@bEEBO178 6 дней назад
How often do your race/track?
@Martin-dx5zs
@Martin-dx5zs 10 дней назад
Would love to see the EX30 performance on this track
@TriviaChallenge
@TriviaChallenge 10 дней назад
You need a Taycan for this job.
@phillyphil1513
@phillyphil1513 8 дней назад
Turbo GT "mit Weissach". 😎
@BigD4Real.
@BigD4Real. 4 дня назад
Turn off regenerative braking and use the brakes more.
@MJB9559
@MJB9559 10 дней назад
Hope you learned how to drive a track day from the expert 🙄
@jxxcxx5396
@jxxcxx5396 2 дня назад
You should of got the 5 N , that wouldn’t break on the track
@MrSnicol
@MrSnicol 10 дней назад
Remind me not to buy a used car from you 😂
@shadowrunner8575
@shadowrunner8575 10 дней назад
LG or Panasonic battery?
@bEEBO178
@bEEBO178 6 дней назад
LG in the UK variant (Chinese made Tesla)
@mikapeltokorpi7671
@mikapeltokorpi7671 10 дней назад
That jerking of steering wheel on fast corner. 👀 Is it having electric power steereing? What type battery is in this one? LFP?
@st-ex8506
@st-ex8506 10 дней назад
It is perfectly normal that a car designed for road use overheat when pushed on a track... especially on a fast circuit! The battery cooling system (size of heat exchanger, of air access, flow of the coolant pump) is optimized for road use, and you should upgrade it if you want to use it seriously on tracks! Same thing for brakes, BTW. The same apply to ICE cars... with even more serious consequences! But I am sure you know all that better than I do!😉
@oggyoggy1299
@oggyoggy1299 9 дней назад
We sure do.
@RSEV
@RSEV 9 дней назад
What troubles me is that it wasn’t an issue with 2019 and 2021 m3p’s that I’ve treated the same
@francescodelia4069
@francescodelia4069 8 дней назад
@@RSEV if I'm not wrong, 2019 and 2021 m3p's had panasonic battery
@mrmawson2438
@mrmawson2438 10 дней назад
Wow Tesla
@George_Shonia
@George_Shonia 9 дней назад
is it technologically possible to implement nitrogen cooling system in EVs? that would solve the problem for battery for once & for all
@mike07707
@mike07707 10 дней назад
I get the feeling that cause this car is still so new, they are probably throttling down the power to be safe until they have enough data to then roll out another update. Which will probably adjust the temperature ranges and warnings etc. that would be my guess anyway. Time will tell, youll have redo the test in a few months once theyve done some tweaks
@JDDD33
@JDDD33 9 дней назад
Its not an endurance EV like the Ionic 5N. Its a sprint car
@BrenoBLC
@BrenoBLC 8 дней назад
Circuit with a few straight lines, a lot of low speed curves, and The piloting styles hammering a elétric Car like a gas Car. Probably they were a lot faster at The entrance of The curves, so had to brake a lot harder. With non competitive tires. Its a lot laking to do performance a performance laps
@nickolassnielsen
@nickolassnielsen 7 дней назад
Think that tesla will come with a software update as they always do. It might not quite solve it for a high-speed track. But set the regent to low and better brake pads and I think everything is fine. A little money extra and you have a really good all-round car. But for most people it is very good car, almost perfect already.
@Chris-hy6jy
@Chris-hy6jy 9 дней назад
Looks like a battery cooling issue.
@mrmawson2438
@mrmawson2438 10 дней назад
Cheers guys
@waskus
@waskus 3 дня назад
Brakes overheat on the track
@somethingclever1234
@somethingclever1234 10 дней назад
got it, if I want a track car, get the Model S Plaid with track package.
@AllanSustainabilityFan
@AllanSustainabilityFan 10 дней назад
Would still need to tweak it with third party mods, but at least they do offer the $20k ceramics on that trim; for this one you would need to go to third party for them, along with more track oriented suspension/cooling. Track racing can be an expensive hobby.
@BradFreebird
@BradFreebird 10 дней назад
@@somethingclever1234 no, get an IONIQ 5N
@KsNoz
@KsNoz 10 дней назад
Or a Hyundai Ioniq 5N
@quintinrafferty7232
@quintinrafferty7232 10 дней назад
​@@KsNozexactly what I was thinking
@officialyasir
@officialyasir 10 дней назад
Plaid is a boat built for drag racing and that's about it, unless you plan on doing significant mods.
@simonhobbs9097
@simonhobbs9097 10 дней назад
Would you buy a second hand car from this man…😂
@khan209i
@khan209i 10 дней назад
US spec battery is better I think
@techevo
@techevo 10 дней назад
Not for thermal management unfortunately. It de-rates after 3 mins flat out on track.
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm 10 дней назад
Overheats even quicker
@jermunitz3020
@jermunitz3020 10 дней назад
For Sale: Tesla Model 3 one female owner barely used
@btimur1
@btimur1 7 дней назад
This has elements of misinformation. Regen is at 100% in this video. Regen is known to significantly overheat the battery pack. Instead, regen should be limited or disabled. This will of course increase the heat output onto the brakes, however the brakes should be able to handle it. If not, then an upgrade to a BBK is appropriate for track use.
@MichaelPanzer
@MichaelPanzer 7 дней назад
The Ioniq 5 N does up to 280kw of regen while in track use with no issues whatsoever. Tip claim what you're claiming would just be very sad for the model 3.
@Raymaster7482
@Raymaster7482 10 дней назад
That's a bit disappointing...now imagine you're at the track at a really hot day then the car will perform even worse. Looks like they improved the suspension and put a slightly better motor in the rear but that's it. Tesla could have done a lot better...
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