@Layla Lover fun fact: no one really cares. The "numerous" people reacting to any given thing on twitter tends to be the same few hundred people terminally online anyway. You wanna make art of Bridget being trans? Go for it. You wanna make art of goku with caramel skin and a rockin fro? Take it to the next level! But don't get pissy when people put Tracer with Soldier 76.
Tian Kazuki is an absolute gigachad. His twitter profile banner literally means "Men have (their own) tastes" in Indonesian. And he handles this dumpster fire drama like a goddamn boss. Not only that, he literally pulled the best "no u" i've ever seen in this hellhole website and claimed that W he absolutely deserved. Mad respect o7
Is it weird that when Rev said "They're canonically lesbian", my very first thought was "Well, are they ACTUALLY lesbian, or is it just twitter-canon that they're lesbians?" Since the freaks on twitter want every single female character to be lesbian.
Iirc they're not actually lesbians, just really close friends, at least in Honkai Impact. In Star Rail (alt. universe) they're more like frenemies, though it's mostly because Seele is the "tough love" kind of girl. So basically, the whole Seele x Bronya ship isn't even canon technically speaking. I personally don't blame shippers for seeing anything between the two characters but the idea that they're madly in love and lesbians is pretty out there. And even if that was the case, nobody fucking cares. They're fictional characters ffs. But hey, that's Hoyoverse fans for you. Only some of the most toxic gacha gamers out there. They're just deranged enough to have gaslighted themselves into believing that Bronya and Seele are lesbians and touch so little grass that they manage to act as if such a trivial matter is at the core of their very being.
Adding unto McCaroni's comment, the game is pretty much made in China, so gays or lesbians are kind of a bad idea. HI3's "canon lesbians" are shippers doing their thing fueled by what little fanservice the game could provide. As far as I know, the only canon ships in HI3 are straight couples that are married.
I'm pretty sure they *want* the labels. They say they dont want to be labeled, and they say they want to be treated like normal. Yet their actions prove otherwise. And besides all that nonsense, they cant even use english words properly. A phobia is an irrational fear of something; not just disliking it. A phobia *has* to be irrational, and *has* to be a fear. This is what happens when education fails.
Kuratse is right. Basically, lesbians were so upset that the word homophobia became common vernacular that didn't apply just to them or their chosen allies that they had to go out and invent a new label just for them.
The important takeaway is how the artist handled it. Didn't apologize, didn't cave into pressure, didn't say they'll "do better next time." They recognized that twitter people are some of the most thin-skinned, spiteful, temperamental bullies on the planet, and the only persist because there are a lot of them, and too many people don't wanna deal w/ their insanity. So good on the artist for standing up for themselves
@@facundomontivero2299 Someone would have to go quite far to receive actual death threats and the like from me. Definitely not draw something on the internet.
“You straight shippers don’t understand friendship” is... such a lovely line coming from a shipping brainrot part of any fandom. Just speaking from experience with my own toxic hellhole fandom (Wings of Fire), I’ve seen people ship characters for having the incredibly romantic traits of... being the same gender and existing near each other (sometimes not even that). And then when I break up the two darling F/F ships, I’m homophobic, even though one *isn’t fucking canon* and the other one is done in favour of a different F/F ship. Don’t touch the WoF fandom with a 10-foot pole kids, there’s so much anti brainrot that the largest community bans canon ships for having an age gap.
"You straight shippers don't understand friendship." Oh really? We aren't the ones out here going out of the way to match up same sex pairings of almost every character of every media for the smallest of reasons or anything lol. But, you know its like that one tweet said. "It's a double standard."
had to do a double take with wings of fire oh god, Wings of Fire and Warrior cats... You have broken out quite a few memories. Not all of them good. i'm still confused how people were so angry that moon didn't end up in an abusive 'i can fix him' relationship with winter
"You straight shippers don't understand friendship" is the single most tragically ironic thing these people have ever said considering they don't allow a single character to interact with another character (especially of the same sex) without sexualizing and fetishizing them. These people are literally terminally online fujoshis whose entire digital footprint is fetishizing gay relationships, declaring them canon, and attacking people over whatever fantastical sexuality they project on them. My boyfriend is Chinese and he always complains about how the Western fandom doesn't take into consideration how important brotherhood is in Chinese culture, especially when it comes to heroic warrior characters. They play Chinese games but don't give a shit about the culture of the country these games are made in.
@@Aleph3575 funny they say we don't understand friendship I can tell the difference between being good friends or close to the point you see them as family and having romantic feelings. Meanwhile, Twitter freaks see two girls breathing in each other's direction and just automatically assume those two women are dating.
Twitter - I made all these strait characters gay now in my art! Normal people - That's not how it works? Twitter - Shut up it's head cannon Normal people - I drew the lesbians strait Twitter - YOU MONSTER! Normal people - Head cannon lol
Im glad you only make fun of twitter freaks as to what silvervale calls them and not just and i mean just the lgbt spectrum because many and i mean many many people are mad at us for potentially not have any idea what a vtuber is
It's just like for example Alhaitham X Kaveh. They're not gay at all in lore. But nobody canceling that. Also i prefer Alhaitham X Nilou or Kaveh x Faruzan 😎.
this is exactly how i look at it. headcanon/fanfiction is the place to turn to when a ship one wants to happen doesnt. ppl have been changing character's sexual orientation for years in the past, its nothing new. hell, back 10-15 years ago, if one wanted a non canon ship based story, they would either turn to fanfiction, and if they didnt find it, they would write it themselves. thats what fanfiction was and still is for
They’re fine with the other way around but let it be a fictional straight ship and they lose their minds over it. Their hypocrisy is showing (not surprising cuz it’s Twatter). Never apologize to the weirdos who find an issue with how you want your own artwork to be.
The fact that he takes the literal lines from the game itself "Rules are made to be broken" as a reply to fight back is just amazing I feel proud to be able to have the same nationality as this gigachad of an artist
The moment you saw 'Pria Punya Selera', you just know Twitter freaks aren't winning this one. There's a reason why these people doesn't even bother harrassing ID creators from streaming Hogwarts Legacy anymore, and that is because they still doesn't understand Indonesia's internet culture that already treat these kinda shit as mere jokes by now rather then letting it get to them. Indonesians are not just built different, they're pretty much built for these kinda thing
Am Indonesian, can confirm. Because of how the internet's rule is so finely tuned to the american language, we could throw rock - sized insult towards you guys
As an Indonesian, i most definetely can confirm that we face these stupid stuffs all the time. Westerner know almost no knowledge of Indonesian netizens and how solid they are defending their kin.
That's why indonesians could be the dangerous enemy that goes really hard against you or the most solid ally you couldn't ask for more. It's pretty simple tbh: if you give them respect, they'll support you. But try give them hate or provoke or forced your opinion on them, i just wanna say you'll have mental breakdance very quick 😂. Santai dulu gak tuh...
The most ironic thing to me about it is they are so comfortable with indirectly being racist or straight hating I mean Idc but if you stop and think ,they are saying it offensive to make a character even slightly lighter toned and characters that are straight are bad as well? The level of willful ignorance and arrogance is shocking😂
@@kuratse205 and the funny thing is that, that's a self defeating methodology because sooner or later erasing the norms creates new norms...which they will have to erase...which will reset once again, rinse repeat lol They are litterally running in circles of an endless and self perpetuating cycle of stupidity and ignorance Edit:plus if they erase the norms of "straight" relationships then they have about 100 years to erase "gay" relationships because of reproductive issues
They're not canonically lesbian. As far as I have seen in the game, there is nothing that suggests they're anything more than friends. They can't just claim that any two girls who care each other's well-being are automatically in a relationship.
@@quirk4736 And that practically all of it😂 there no further after that. Let's say is Rita and Dudu lesbian? There's no indicator that they are more then very good friend but players make them Lesbo too.
Every day I'm told "heterophobia doesn't exist" and every day I'm proven that it does by the same circus side show rejects that infest Twitter. Imagine my shock.
Wow, i see this term a lot and i'm shocked at how often it is used Heterophobia is just like ''white racism'' and ''christianphobia'' all of those are terms commonly used in hateful speeches against any minority that speaks back to the majority, and its baffling how many people in those types of videos are using it Much better wording would be ''retaliation against straight people'' or ''hate against straight people'' because most of those people in twitter complaining feel opressed for some reason and they find excuses to hate straight people mindlessly, not to mention heterophobia isnt REALLY a big problem in the outside world, its just the internet having the freedom to say stupid stuff. i hope that explains :)
@@joaovictornogueira323 Heterophobia may not be a real thing (I personally think so, but phobia isn't the correct word for it), but racism towards white people and hatred towards christianity is. For the racism to white people, search up "What Are We Doing to White People", there's a video explaining it if I'm not wrong.
The best part is that this same dude got banned in the main subreddit of Honkai Star Rail for precisely the same reason. If it isn't anymore obvious how certain social media circles are now essentially overrun by these types of people, I don't know what is.
"This person is only drawing a straight ship to spite lesbians" is giving the same energy as "women wear make-up for the sake of men" Like, (1) no, they're not and (2) not everything is about you.
these tumblr refugees are exactly the opposite in the spectrum as incels are. Pure unadulterated hatred towards the opposite... apes sure try so hard to paint a shady world black & white.
This is about as dumb as that one time the artist that drew Steven's mom from steven universe got death threats over drawing Steven's mom slightly skinnier
@@pokemonwilliams2176 if we could go back in time and stop the Tumblr exodus or at least redirect their exodus to a social media platform that's considered backwater
@@arlynnecumberbatch1056 2nd image that typed out a nonexistent word: "lesbiphobia". Not a word. Lesbophobia is also used incorrectly. That implies a fear, but these twitter freaks mean it to imply a dislike or hatred. That is NOT a phobia. Phobia does not indicate hatred or dislike. It is an IRRATIONAL FEAR. Lesbian Hostility makes more sense because that implies hatred or dislike. Not fear.
Indeed. People call me Francophobic quite often. It isn't that I fear the French, I just hold them in absolute contempt. Same goes for the Transphobic, Islamophobic, and any other "istaphobe" moniker they chose to apply to me.
@@KakfkaLover Basically, Phobia comes from Greek word “phobos” meaning fear, horror. And all the words formed using this root would reflect this same very fear. Phobia being related to dislike is purely a recent thing as the root word doesnt even remotely relate to aversion, it's just another word that idiots are trying to rebrand to mean something it never did
@@ardantop132na6 they can't and can never be given human rights. Cause every action they do is dictated by the writer or a bunch of writers and by not the chars own free will. Thus never will ever have a single human right.
A definition's a definition, there's no exceptions. These people are just bigots, plain and simple. The art is amazing, I just love depictions of love. We shouldn't see sexuality, we should see love. Love is love.
Love is love. Sadly, twatters are worried about their agenda, and wonder why no one takes them serious. Like when they tried to cancel Bayonetta, a canonically bisexual woman who had a relationship with a girl, for dating a boy. Because bisexuality is okay only if its the gay half of it.
While this is an iconic yuri ship in the sense that these characters are reoccurring as being together in the franchise in their iterations, it's still just fan art. Shipping art like this has always existed. It's done on iconic straight and even yaoi characters too. It's not a big deal in and of itself. If someone really is so bothered by it, I guess they could just imagine this as a bisexual polygamy thing as well, that way the two of them are still technically together in one's headcanon about the fanart, but, as I've addressed this before, it's not really a big deal that art like this exists for any character.
Mihoyo also have make variations of same character like mei and dr.mei also rita and rita from otherworld. Just because character look and name a same didn't meant they acts same. Even seele have feelings for captain in captainverse.
@@wanabid98 They all have feelings for the Captain in the Captainverse, even Kiana, who remains the only character in the entire game of Hi3 that is ever explicitly referred to by anyone as being a lesbian. Its also really funny how mad people get when you throw the whole "Liking people of the same sex doesn't mean you're lesbian/gay" thing back at them.
@@Aleph3575 Exactly. Captains and Trailblazers, and even Travelers, are always welcoming towards polygamy. That's why I'm a Harem Shipper personally. Captain x Valkyries (Kiana included), Aether Harem, and Caelus Harem
Yea, whenever I see smth like this I just try to think its poly. Unless that one harem fanart (where bron/seele got pregnant by the mc) and I get horrified
Both straights and the yuri fans boutta cope and seethe and cry like babies once they see their characters getting rammed by in game mobs like Hilichurls
For all the preaching and nattering about “pride” and “having confidence” people do these days, this artist is the best example of real confidence. You know your values, you know what you want. Others don’t, so you dgaf
@@Sumthin_Unbearable It means, don't give a fuck. The other short-hand way of it is Idgaf, which is 'I don't give a fuck' anyway, have a beautiful day o/
We need all artists to go on a Heterosexual artwork crusade. Everyday just post pure straight artwork, and even turning gay characters straight on purpose. From Tracer, Korra, soldier 76, you name it. The straight crusade is here. I call for it.
What's funny is that some Artist also started to draw Seele and Bronya with the Male MC. One yuri artist even made an art where both Seele and Bronya are pregnant with Caelus (male mc) as the father.
These people have no problem with changing already established straight characters into same sex couples, but the minute you make homosexual/bisexual characters straight it's all of a sudden problematic. These people are absolute hypocrites
“Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comforted” - I forgot who said it , but it should be true. Artist is freedom of expression through creativity, smh.
These antis are so self-absorbed they cannot stand things outside of their worldview. And in many cases, will see such things as an attack on their character. They're the most intolerant people you can find on Twitter, despite tolerance being at the core of their beliefs. They're just the worst. 😒
@riot kitty Fucking tell me about it. There's this show that I used to like called RWBY that's gone downhill over the years. And one of the main things that damaged it, was the shippers. Namely, the ones that ship the two main female characters Blake and Yang with ship named Bumblebee?
As a honkai player aka a captain, this digust me. Let me get this straight, there is not a canon ship ever, if the dev say it's canon then it's canon, if the dev saids nothing, go to town with the shipping. Rita in the Kiana verse (HI3rd) is likely in a relationship with Durandal, but in the same game with dif unniverse, Rita is canonically in love with the Captain. There is no OTP in Hoyo-verse cuz in that vast multiverse there will always be another choice to make, the shipping is endless. And please for the love of god let artists draw what they want to draw, like many other games, artists are like the back-bone of the community, if there is no artist that wants to draw fan-art of your game, you are doing something wrong.
I mean, even if the dev say a ship is canon, you can still make non-canon ships with those characters, as long as you don't act like an unhinged monke.
Using the MC's quote for when they use their Ultimate "Rules are made to be broken." to clap back at that hater was just *chef's kiss*. I fucking loved that.
We need to make it a standard double down to draw the shipping in a happy family whenever these hypocrite activists make up drama. This is parentless behavior and they seethe at the idea of people having healthy families.
@@tumamaencosplay Most of these people have parents, they just never cared about them, just gave them anything they wanted. Then they used the insecurity that came from this to bully other people as a kid, and then, as an adult, they cope with the fact they're so pathetic they can't effectively bully anyone in real life anymore by trying to bully anyone on Twitter.
To clarify a bit : These two characters are bronya and selee from honkai star rail. They got two alternate versions, one in GGZ where they are in love, and one in HI3 where they kissed and are close. In honkai star rail, they are alternate version/not canon version of them, where they did not know each other personnally, they even hated each other before the main character (dude on the fan art) appear to help them get along. Following this event, they just become good friend and that's it. In Honkai Impact 3rd/GGZ the game is a lesbian bait cause 90% of the char are lesbian, so this game is a representation of LGBT people for them. They even ship Su and Kevin (whose got a Girlfriend btw) who are two straight chars and just friends together. Following this, we have the genshin fandom which ship all the char together (ninguan/beidou kaeya/diluc and so on) and said they are lesbian/gay even tho they are straight, and see themselve like brother etc Even shipping the newly released char Kaveh with Althaim just because they are roomate and even tho they hate each other (but can give advice etc). Even hating when people ship Aether x female char (popular ayaka), cause they just hate straight ship and just want all char to be LGBT. But if you put Lumine ( Fmain char) x F char, they are happy and shut up. Even hating the art of Layla and aether stargazing cause they wanted to be Lumine and Layla. When Aloy (horizon zero down char) who's a collab char and irrelevant to the game/story was depicted lesbian, they were happy cause it's a representation for LGBT people. So basically, adding hi3 + genshin shipper create a whole lot of "heterophobia" and misandry (they say this doesnt exist), cause all hoyo game are representation of LGBT people for them. Ps : they shouldn't play or lool at Tear of Thermis Sorry for my bad english
I haven't touched on the other issues, but from a male Genshin Impact player's perspective, the problem with Aether with girls is that Aether tends to be a bit too over Alpha.( The shorts of Aether playing opposite the other Genshin girls with the aviator sunglasses still make me cringe... ) If you let Aether passively accept the pursue of girls like a submissive boy, it's a lot easier for people to accept.
@@user-hv6bm4jp6g too be honest from a male player perspective too I don't really mind or care about ship, i'd rather see them being made official instead of teased, if you see what I mean. I don't think Aether is focused on girl cause he just want to find his sister, but keep getting dragged, so that's may explain the "too over alpha" you talked about I guess ? When it's too given, people will have strong belief that their headcanon are real (ayaka event for ex, when aether is her first Friend outside of Thoma) and people begin to think it's official and all Idk if you see what I mean
They are extremely toxic and it’s the reason why I don’t interact with them. I love yuri but I can’t stand how protective people are of this. It’s no big deal who you ship characters with. I won’t get mad and no one else should. Half the characters when they make fan stuff about them tend to take them out of character so what do they care?
@@crestofhonor2349 double standard I guess ? LGBT people got it rough, so having some char to relate's a way to cope with it and feel more accepted, I guess ? Tho if you turn a lesbian/gay char straight, it's like spitting in their face and take away what belong to them
Yep. This is going on with me too. I can’t draw a straight ship anymore without being called out for the lack of LGBTQ drawings. But I can’t help that I prefer to draw straight ships because I’m straight myself… Me drawing a straight ship because that’s my sexuality doesn’t automatically make me an anti.
People would prefer habn a more fuller range typically, bu, thas not always gonna be the case, sometimes people need a be able to jus do wha they want an so, yea go for it, id say try to understand an compromise an stuff bu its up to you, regardless you can still make stuff some people will like
As someone who mostly draws gay art I agree: people should be able to ship whatever they want. As long as you're having fun then that's the only metric that should count. I seriously don't get these people, back in the old days we just used to say: "If you don't like it then either go somewhere else or draw it yourself." but appearantly that's a difficult concept to grasp these days. Just let people enjoy what they like and you go enjoy what you like, it's really that simple.
The funny thing is that there are more layers to this that Rev doesn't know about since he's not in the know about the Hoyoverse games. Firstly the "rules are made to be broken" is the ULT line that the MC uses (aka the guy in the ship art) so it's super fitting Secondly, Bronya x Seele being canon lesbians is actually only in Honkai Impact. Meanwhile, in Star Rail which is what the ship arts are of, they are completely different kinds of characters and are just friends and aren't canon lesbians. So people are basically fighting over an 'established' ship that isn't even canon in Star Rail's context. And the irony of this 'canon ship' ordeal is that these are the exact same people who will ship Ei x Yae from Genshin and claim they're canon lesbians....except those two characters are in canonical lesbian relationships with DIFFERENT people in Honkai Impact. Mei x Kiana is the canon ship, and Yae x Kallen is the canon ship. These people literally trip over their own logic and don't even stay consistent. Also Rev, the WIP that's posted is of an older Aether and Mona from Genshin, not the same ship(s) they drew earlier unfortunately, as based as that would be
These twitter freaks are such hypocrites. They get mad over this fanart yet these are the same people who keep imposing their headcanons on characters and proclaim them to be "coded" a certain way.
As someone who's done both straight and les characters years back and the people flocked to my straight characters and shipped them with the les's, even though I said I doesn't work for the story I wanted to tell when they asked me to make it canon but they still went ahead and I didn't bother about it because it was great art, better than my own. It's funny seeing this being more common now, some people really do go crazy for anything that affects their shipping in their head.
that artist is indonesian, twitter freaks think they can crush/ mental down this person. bruhh.. they had strong mental and already used to be treated like this. the worst part is, twitter freaks will be made fun by their community even more.
I think its actually bronya and seele from star rail ( confusing i know ) which are definitely not canon. I doubt mihoyo would make their character lgbt tbh
@@kimikoscult1948 Yea, it's their Star Rail version that the artist drew. Antis used the comic where Bronya and Seele kissed in HI3 as reason that they are lesbians but that's a whole different universe. Edit: oh the vid showed it
to be more accurate, none of them are canon lesbs. the closest we got was a kiss between Bron and Seele, but it was in a manga panel that Hoyo lowkey wants you to forget about. their relationships are purposefully made ambiguous so Hoyo can say they're "very close very good friends" whenever the government officer knocks on their proverbial door about all that age stuff in their waifu gacha game
When you realize that the "lesbian" characters are made just to be fetishized. Edit: to clarify, that's the selling point of the characters so you should not look for genuine representation from a gacha game. Everything is made to sell.
@Yuma-chan I feel like Love Live (at least the original one) doesn't count here since, thanks to a number of character songs and post show stuff shows that pairings established in the series between the characters ARE supposed to be interpreted as lesbian pairings and I think it's evident by the fact that Sunshine isn't nearly as explicit as OG is also kinda proof of this. You could, I suppose, argue that they are meant to be S-class lesbians, which is an old term used to refer to how in series with majorly female casts would often pair those characters together romantically but in a way that was clearly meant to only be temporary and that such relationships would break off when the cast went their separate ways at the end of the series. Basically queerbaiting. It's also worth noting that S-Class has become frowned upon and not just in the Western Audience, for that reason. In fact, the last series I know of that was explicitly supposed to be S-class was Lyrical Nanoha and the (Japanese mind you) VAs literally protested and refused to perform the characters until the writers changed the ending so that Fate and Nanoha got together which each other instead of the male characters who were introduced in the final season to be their romantic partners and those characters ended up being written out of the series.
Lol I joke all the time that Da Wei is just sitting in his office beating his dick to all the bronseele porn and shit these idiots make while crowing about how Hi3 is "great representation". Did these morons forget that a Honkai story writer did an interview and the screensaver on his work computer which was in full view of the camera btw, was literally the cover of an Elymei porn doujin? I'm telling you, the majorly male development staff at Mihoyo is not writing lesbians for representation, they're doing because they get off to it.
Apparently, when a character is made for its selling point to be its sexual orientation/gender identity, its called queerbaiting and its kind of bad, like its shoving the fact down our throats for some reason.
"Screwing up an canon ship that has been established for years." Bruh... The game just came out A FEW WEEKS AGO. And yes, i know that the game had a few beta tests before but no one was going gaga over these "established ships" until now!
The canon ship they are even talking about is even from a different universe and so far in HSR the ship they are talking about is just head cannon they are just friends at the moment. Edit: Hoyoverse even low keys never promotes lgbt stuff directly due to China regulation and can make excuses that they are just good friends so established ship is a loose term that can change at a moments notice if this gets out of hand which would suck tbh.
1:08 quick note here Rev, they are not canonically Lesbian because the only source that stated their relationship as couple was an already taken down Honkai Impact 3rd manga, even in Honkai Impact 3rd game as right now their relationship is just Siblings.
Most people on twt who say “straight bad” are probably joking lol.. But for the serious, ehh, I guess its because theyre oppressed by them irl? Still, hate isnt good either way.
@@dynamo-g hate breeds hate. the fact, that some people can`t break this circle is just sad, some straight people hate gay people, some gay people hate straight people, and both don`t understand, that they are not better than the other.
I say again! "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.” -Mike Tyson. Whatever happened to just treating others the way you want to be treated?
“Don’t care. It’s a good double standard to have” If that isn’t a microcosm of everything wrong with terminally online progressives and just a lot of problems the West has in general, then I don’t know what is. There isn’t a better example anywhere else
Bruh. I hate humans sometimes I hate USA girls bro. Like people ship Pearl and Marina from splatoon when both of those girls are just friends. But then make straight art of an actual gay character it's a problem. MAN SKIP YOU GO OUTSIDE AND TOUCH GRASS DAWG. GO LOOK AT EARTHBOUND REFERENCES.
@@facundomontivero2299 idc what people ship. Just don't come at other people for a ship when you legit do the same. For me tbh I don't like gay ships with straight characters. But I'm not gonna shit on people for it Cuz that's they art and what they wanna draw So idc.
Let me tell you something Twitard, the moment you see word such us "Pria Punya Selera", etc. It mean they're Indonesian. Don't bother fighting them, that's war you can't never win.
Funny thing about this I bet if it's Stelle (female protag) instead of Celeus (male protag) no one would bat an eye Truly one of the Tweeter Freak moment of all time
No I'm sure people would, tbh it'd get under my skin a bi still, thing is it's not jus bou them being gay, it's also bou them being tha case wi each other (yes they aren yet dating hsr wise bu it's heavily hinted there getting closer in tha way an they are basically as cannon as can get in GGZ an HI3
History repeats itself This is literally what was happening when people agreed that being gay was bad Unfortunately i hope this dosen't happen with the racism issue
Rather than leave it to the artist, if you have a Twitter and see any of these crazy peope, report them. Twitter is finally starting to take reports seriously, and enforce TOS against people on the other side of the aisle. I myself had a troll account that got banned in a month, and in that time, my reports got like a dozen ppl suspended, and far more accounts locked.
Let's just ship all female characters from hoyoverse games (honkai, genshin...) with males and see the scandal. And let's start big. For example, kiana or mei
This is so strange! Moe characters aren't meant to be about representation or politics... They're meant to be about feelings. They're supposed to make us feel affection, not to be used as a tool for political views. Like it or not, these aspects aren't compatible. Because politics inevitably brings about discussion and arguments or clashes about the real world, while "feelings for characters" is about one's personal space and freedom of mind, within a space and context meant for escapism. So it's okay and very common actually, that there's a wide variety of expression with Moe characters (including portraying characters in ways they orignally weren't intended to). Even if others don't like it it has to be respected, because that's the spirit of Moe and its manifestation in anime / manga / novel / game fiction. I'm glad I don't get to participate in English twitter often because of that... I hope it changes in the future, though!
As a lesbian, I find the rule of “making canonically straight people gay in fan art is ok but the other way around it’s not ok” extremely stupid. Why can it be one way but not the other? I really dislike this type of double standards. No, you’re not erasing me by making Seele and Bronya kiss a guy. It’s fucking fiction ffs. Also fun fact in 11:12 the phrase “rules are made to be broken” is a quote from the female MC’s Ultimate in the game lol. (Idk if the male one has the same lines tho)
@@facundomontivero2299 Trust me, I did and oh boy, there is so little of them. So what I meant is more of this shipping on medias. The fact this drawing alone was receiving so many backlashes tells a lot about everything. You can't just show straight shipping or drawing from famous manhwas or animes or even games and expected to be left unscathed. If this was five years back, a lot would dismiss it.
@@wickie-search You're right. Furthermore it also depends on which fandom/community. Some communities are more friendly of the traditional straight romance while some are more hostile because of their perceived threat that straight ships will outshine their lesbian/gay representation. The RWBY community is a good example of this.
@@gnw_AstA It's funny when a person pointed out how people praise and do nothing when they turn someone straight into gay/lesbian and their sexuality is not even canon but lashes out violently when a non-straight character is turned straight. Oh, the double standard. You can do your business but don't stop others from doing theirs and forcing your ideals on them. Funnily enough, I see RWBY animation as confusing plot but the fandom are good. Well, not everyone but you get the gist.
@@wickie-search Actually, it doesnt really mean anything. According to a bunch of people, the artist done a lot of lesbiphobic things in the past that attracted quite a ton of people going after him, hence how this incident happened. If you draw a straight ship where both characters dont have a confirmed sexuality, you wont receive any harrassment (Take any straight non-problematic ship in Prsk fandom for example, like emukasa or akian)
Characters wearing different color clothes and having a different skin color in art is also fine because they are based on palette swap characters in fighting games to see which of the same characters you are controlling. Cosplayers can do that too.
The artist is smart, they could easily just draw one of the two but purposely made art of both knowing that they are shipped together, just free attention for him thanks to twitter users.
I mean you really can't blame the man for wanting attention. At the age of ai drawing, illustrators are at the risk of getting unemployed. He could use every attention he get.
They kissed once in HI3, but tbf there's no romantic relationship statement(plus theyre loli in HI3, quite ironic) If you ever met one they will spit out those 'lesbian coded' argument at you and mald
Bruh, these people are glass canons. They spit and spit, but when someone spit back, they shriveled and deleted their alternative accounts they used to spit.
I've seen lesbian Anna & Elsa so many times, did I hear any of these twitter hypocrites call out underage Alabama? I don't think so. Even better, gay Anakin & Obi Wan.
The best part is that they aren't even lesbians LOL Bronya and Seele only kissed in the HI3 manga, in HSR they only care about each other and nothing more. They're not the same person, the only character from Honkai Star Rail who is actually the same person from Honkai Impact 3rd is Welt
"If you don't like what I like and think is best, you're a POS!" is the typical mindset of your average Twittter freak. Such admirable and praiseworthy people.
As a veteran Captain, the second-hand embarassment I feel from these Antis is stronger than Kevin. We definitely do not claim those. As for some clarifications: No, the ship is not canon. Hoyo has definitely *leaned on* the ship (keyword here) since the days of GGZ, but not even once the status of that relationship has changed to "official". The closest thing is one panel from the Azure Waters manga, which MHY kinda wants us to forget, lest the CCP comes knocking on their doors. This is very important because it also applies to all other lesb ships these people might claim as "canon". Hoyo purposefully made these relationships as ambiguous as possible so they can say "see? they're just very good friends!", because they're not legally allowed to fully commit. It's been a running gag in the Honkai fandom that any new girl will be gae until contrary proof is giver (Law Number Two of Honkai Impact), but that's it, a joke. As for the art in question, the designs are from Star Rail. While it is linked to Honkai, more so than Genshin, that doesn't mean these versions of Bronya and Seele are the same as their Honkai counterparts. Shit, within Honkai we have Bronie, who is already vastly different from OG Bronya. And even if that wasn't the case, then does it mean all the BakuDeku trash needs to go too? It's a low price to pay, in my opinion. But of course the antis have double standards, or else they wouldn't have standards at all. Damn, again, this is so embarrassing. I'd rather have another GBL anniversary drama over this...
i mean the ggz and honkai 3rd only have playable female character, make sense since it was literally waifu selling game. Hence if they want to make a "relationship" story they had to go yuri or else player who self insert will sperg (more so since both game don't have a representation of the player, only "captain" in hi3 but there's no model)
