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TX22 & CCI Ammo Final Update - All Information 

Buckeye Ballistics
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CCI ammo blows up in my Taurus TX22, final update.
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@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
To everyone criticizing me because the video is "too long," or because I apparently repeated myself multiple times: How can you be so unappreciative? How can you criticize free information? I am trying to help the gun community by warning my brothers in arms of shitty companies that treat their customers poorly and don't stand by their products, trying to save YOU from having to endure what I have. So in return for my efforts of trying to help our community, you criticize me? You criticize the free information and my hard work and efforts trying to help? Maybe just bite your tongue and appreciate that I am trying to help everyone. The entitlement and egotism of the modern world just completely blows me away, ESPECIALLY because these people are supposed to be my brothers in arms. YES the video is long, YES I repeated myself several times. To those who have and will criticize this video: I'm so terribly sorry that this public service I did you was so insufferable to watch...
@JuanMartinez-lp1bd
@JuanMartinez-lp1bd 4 года назад
Man, even this excuse is too long.
@martynridley3671
@martynridley3671 4 года назад
I'm afraid there will always be twats,...meanwhile, the majority of us appreciate the video!
@davidholmes9874
@davidholmes9874 4 года назад
Juan Martinez : attention deficit
@PerrySummers
@PerrySummers 4 года назад
Sorry, too long is too long. I ended up skipping through the last 10 minutes. Longer isn't always better.
@davidholmes9874
@davidholmes9874 4 года назад
Please ignore the critics. The world today lives on sound bites. News is presented in 30 second quips. No real depth! Unfortunately people have adapted to commercial length video. Really not the kind you would want on a jury where your life is at stake. I believe “attention deficit disorder” is the buzzword discription.
@nicolasdanieli1319
@nicolasdanieli1319 Год назад
CCI used to be the pinnacle of .22 ammo. Thanks for bringing to light the fact that we can no longer rely on CCI for quality ammo.
@wolfy0129
@wolfy0129 4 года назад
Well I am so glad you let us know how CCI handled this. Or should I say tried to get out of any responsibility for not only making really bad ammo in this case but also damaging your gun and putting you in a dangerous situation. I know I said it before but I am saying it again. I am grateful you didn't get Hurt. Well CCI has lost my business. I will no longer buy or use the ammo they make! Clearly they don't care about their customers safety or if they damage or destroy the gun firing their ammunition. They need to have better quality control. Thank you again! Others may see it differently than me but by posting these videos you may have saved a life or a serious injury. I am grateful to you.
@jacklucas7265
@jacklucas7265 2 года назад
Good video, good analysis of what happened. I can say I learned something. Had the CCI people been smart they would have taken care of you and replaced the entire firearm as a matter of good customer relations in my opinion. Sadly, many companies prefer to "bury their mistakes" until they are sued.
@WOLVERINE95899
@WOLVERINE95899 4 года назад
GREAT lesson for everyone here. NEVER, EVER, EVER buy from a company that doesn't stand behind it's product ! ! ! Especially a product that your life may depend on.
@MrVinnyboombottz
@MrVinnyboombottz Год назад
Customer service means a lot to me when it comes to product loyalty. Thanks for pointing out your experience with how consumers should (Taurus) be treated and how they should not (CCI).
@wozboat
@wozboat 3 года назад
This is a good lesson for checking your barrel every time you have a misfire. I had a similar situation with some homemade 9 mm reloads. Coincidentally it was also a Taurus pistol, a G2C. I think I accidentally miss loaded a round when I was reloading and didn’t put any powder in one of my rounds. I pulled the trigger and it went click. The primer went off and pushed the bullet into the barrel. I manually ejected the casing but the next round would not go all the way into the chamber. That was a lucky break for me because I didn’t realize the other bullet was lodged in the barrel of the gun. Had it gone another quarter of an inch, the next round would have chambered and I would’ve sent the next round right behind the stuck round. Not sure how lucky I would have been when I pulled the trigger but I’m glad I didn’t have to find out. I’m not blaming anyone but myself for that incident. It was a total lack of focus on my part while reloading. But a very important lesson for being totally aware of everything around you when you are shooting. If something sounds off, the report, the recoil, or anything else, you should stop what you are doing an examine the firearm. It could save a very serious injury.
@mikelastpass689
@mikelastpass689 3 года назад
I for 1 am very much appreciative of you bringing this to all of us. I am researching small caliber lcrs. This showed me something I knew nothing about and will never forget. Thanks so very much for bringing this to our attention.
@MileyMutt
@MileyMutt 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing brother. I always thought of CCI as a premium round. Count me as another customer CCI has lost.
@patrickgriffitt6551
@patrickgriffitt6551 3 года назад
Did you not say that CCI was sold to another company or did I misheard. If in fact they were then I wonder why it is that when someone buys a successful company they tend to run it into the ground apparently for short term profit which I think is stupid. Long term brand loyalty is so much more profitable and dependable. At any rate I guess I'll have to drop my Stingers in favor of Yellow Jackets. Hope the squirrels and rabbits don't notice.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
I said that when I responded to your other comment earlier. Aguila makes a Stinger equivelant, which is the brand I'm switching to.
@jamesmonarch3044
@jamesmonarch3044 Год назад
@@patrickgriffitt6551 ok
@giovannitallino7513
@giovannitallino7513 4 года назад
When the gun goes CLICK! you need to stop firing, to keep the gun pointing downrange for at least 30 seconds, and then to pull carefully the slide back. If you see the casing is still in the chamber it may have been a hangfire. This can happen quite often with rimfire ammunition. Then, when the casing is extracted and you see that the bullet is missing, anyone who has any sense would check and see if there is a bullet lodged in the barrel. This is the procedure spelled out in all the gun safety textbooks used for hunter safety and concealed carry courses. I am sorry, my friend, but it's you who screwed up. When the gun went CLICK! you should have followed the correct procedure. BTW I was a gun safety and hunter safety instructor in Montana and Alaska, and was an NRA-certified rifle instructor.
@kevinb1060
@kevinb1060 2 года назад
Agreed absolutely right
@ralphhernandez3521
@ralphhernandez3521 2 года назад
I’m afraid I have to agree with the instructor. Last year I had bought 500 rounds on the Internet after being told they were run off an industrial reloading machine. Out of the first two boxes I had seven rounds that gave a funny pop and the case stove piped in the gun. This happened because there was not enough gunpowder to fully cycle the slide and it left the bullet halfway down the barrel. After each malfunction I was smart enough to check the barrel and find the lodge bullet. The rest of the ammo was pulled down and reused as parts. I kept shooting in order to see how many malfunctions I would have in a box but I was very cautious when I did not hear the bullet impact the target.
@josephlawrence6299
@josephlawrence6299 2 года назад
@@billmiller6274 The advice is spot on. If you can't rapid fire safely, then stop rapid firing. Don't ignore safety just because it's inconvenient for your enjoyment. I'm disappointed with all the people turning this shooter into a hero for getting CCI to settle his beef. CCI has all the legal warnings on the box explaining misfires can happen and how to handle them. This shooter choose to ignore those steps and created an accident. CCI knows even when they would win a lawsuit in an objective civil court, they've already lost the case in the court of RU-vid opinions. Sad day in America when people have lost the ability to think critically and take responsibility for their poor decisions.
@scottthompson5855
@scottthompson5855 Год назад
Not correct. He explained that he had five rounds and first three fired fine. He heard nothing and thought he was ejecting fourth (squib) thought it was the third failing to fire when it was a squib. No primer sound just a click. It could happen to anyone. You sir are a dick regardless of your previous training. (that no one gives a flying F about)...
@scottthompson5855
@scottthompson5855 Год назад
You need to work on your video comprehension...More unsolicited advice...Like you like to give Dick.
@JohnDoe-hu4ph
@JohnDoe-hu4ph 4 года назад
just watched this and checked my ammo. you're absolutely right about that fine print on the back! had to get the biggest magnifying glass i own to read it! thanks for the info!👍
@joehelvey5794
@joehelvey5794 2 года назад
I really appreciate this video brother. I have been fond of my tx but before I turned it over to a family member for a young mans first handgun I did a lot of research. This video just brought forward a concern all gun owners should be aware of constantly. It helped me remember to pass on the basics, with so much to cover this was an important one. Thank you Sir.
@Stormcloud2226
@Stormcloud2226 3 года назад
THANKS! For the original video, and the updates. Very informative. I just purchased a Ruger LCP ll 22lr. I will definitely check the barrel after misfires, or anything wierd. The life you saved may just be mine. So thanks again. I now subscribe.
@brenturquhart7090
@brenturquhart7090 4 года назад
It’s not if you have a problem with someone’s product. It is how they deal with it in the long run that matters.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Exactly
@mikekurschat3414
@mikekurschat3414 4 года назад
Very insightful video! I would have never thought of checking the barrel either. VERY GOOD TO SEE exactly what a "squib load" looks/sound like (or doesn't sound like), how that works, and how CCI doesn't care. THANK YOU!
@zmanphx
@zmanphx 4 года назад
When I was learning to shoot. I learned that if the recoil or sound was much less than normal , that could be a squib. Don't fire the next round but inspect the barrel. It can happen in reloads or cheap Russian ammo where there is lack of QA.
@TheLoneRanger745
@TheLoneRanger745 4 месяца назад
Great annolosis and recall of that day- on video Nov 13th 2019 , I've only used CCI mini mag's in My TX22 , I have got hotter rounds before that i could feel but no realy problems. Its very fortunate you happen to be recording that on day . Type Company response, deny liability ! My barrel has nearly NO RIFLING = key holing, ordered a brand New barrel it was the same. Now going to order one from LakeLine marksman barrel.
@brucebabin4137
@brucebabin4137 2 года назад
I’m happy that you are thorough, I think you explained it well and it was very interesting to listen to. Thank you for sharing your experience, it means a lot. We all have a lot to learn and that would be the interesting part. Thanks again, you did great.
@xjc1069x
@xjc1069x 3 года назад
Thanks for the videos. Very informative. I've used CCI for many years & a few years ago it seemed like their quality degraded. Since 2017 I've had several "duds" in their Mini-Mags, Stingers, & Velocitors. No issues with the segmented rounds yet but the way they responded to you is crap. As a business owner myself, it kills me to know these big companies won't stand behind their products/craftsmanship. Again, thanks for the info & demo. Shitty that you had to go through that but glad Taurus is taking care of it & you still have all your digits. Cheers.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
Thank you man. Coincidently, today I was recoding a video of the segmented rounds they offer, and the very first sub-sonic segmented that we shot (of only 2) was an underpowered dud. We got 710fps on the chrono and it sounded exactly like the quiet segmented version. So I shot another to see what would happen and the very next one was 1090fps! Way high, barely slower than the next one we shot- a segmented mini mag that came in at 1160, followed by the "1640fps" 32gr "segmented hp" round, that was around 1540 over my chrono. We were doing a gel test with all of them, which will be the next gun video I post. I'm not buying their ammo anymore after the way they treated me, but I still got a bunch left over that I'm using up. Thanks again for the support.
@gingercarpenter9903
@gingercarpenter9903 3 года назад
Thanks for all your time sharing cause you could be saving hands even lives man. No cci for me. Keep videoing. That’s how I have learned a lot.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
Thanks brother
@cbyutube
@cbyutube 2 года назад
Good video, both of them. Glad you got through to them. Carry on (and thanks for your efforts!).
@jggj9656
@jggj9656 3 года назад
Thanks for the update I’ve been following you on this issue and am with you. I don’t appreciate companies who do not care about their customers. I will be trying new brands of ammo.
@Jim-re3sr
@Jim-re3sr 4 года назад
Will NEVER buy CCI again! Companies that treat customers like this wont get my support.
@wilycoyote9091
@wilycoyote9091 3 года назад
Problem is that Federal owns CCI so are you going to stay away from them as well?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
Yes! I just bought a bulk pack of Federal copper plated HP's that used to be about the best cheap bulk ammo you could buy. Out of a couple hundred rounds of it, we had about 12-13 duds; this never used to be the case. Federal/CCI has gone down the crapper...
@wilycoyote9091
@wilycoyote9091 3 года назад
@@BuckeyeBallistics When everyone is selling everthing as fast as they can make it these things tend to happen. I have always had good luck with Federal and CCI and they were the most reliable 22's, apparently high quality is not a top priority anymore.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
Indeed
@dogman_
@dogman_ 2 года назад
@@wilycoyote9091 Federal is made in a different factory.
@lukewarm1740
@lukewarm1740 4 года назад
CCI was bought by ATK a few years ago. They also own Federal ammunition. The quality of CCI and their customer service have suffered since then.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
It would seem so. Aguila it is then!
@dragonaut4208
@dragonaut4208 4 года назад
Guns&Cars I’ve pretty much switched to aguila
@calvinlayport3127
@calvinlayport3127 4 года назад
I believe if you buy a company that makes a high quality product that the new buyer should be held accountable for that product to be held to the same quality as the original product was
@mfree80286
@mfree80286 4 года назад
@@BuckeyeBallistics Seems odd that "hecho en Mexico" ammo is the way to go... but remember, that's pretty much all they're allowed on the civilian end of things in Mexico. They get to specialize :)
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Great point
@jeffreym4273
@jeffreym4273 2 года назад
Thank you for the information and the report on this whole matter and yes, amazing you had a video to prove the case.
@edouble2411
@edouble2411 2 года назад
Thank you very much for a great video, I just bought a TX22 competition and I have plenty of cci I will be praying every time I shoot them GOD BLESS you glad you didn't get hurt.
@jackhobson-dupont6975
@jackhobson-dupont6975 4 года назад
I think you should send a polite email to CCI saying, "Thank you for your assistance with this matter. Please return my materials, which I loaned to you for your inspection and technical analysis. Yours, etc."
@jameskirk3
@jameskirk3 Год назад
Should switch over to registered mail at this point honestly. Ammunition manufacturers are dealing with potentially deadly products, even on the range with training ammo etc, they should investigate to the fullest extent when dealing with obstructions and exploding cases. Even if the CCI rep didn't get a direct video link, he should be taking information, any information, and being much more thorough than he was. Sounds like he had it in his mind that he was right and knows it all, at least to me.
@WizardOfWhoopee
@WizardOfWhoopee 4 года назад
I appreciate the work you did here, it was very informative. I didn't know either of the issues before. Now I do. And, thanks to the other informative comments I know that CCI=Speer=Federal=expect problems.
@leonardhuff3169
@leonardhuff3169 2 года назад
Coco is my favorite rimfire ammo. Experiences vary.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 2 года назад
Coco? 😅
@common-man7378
@common-man7378 3 года назад
Appreciate the info and all the work to produce your video. Thanks for sharing your experience and helpful insight.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
Thanks and you're welcome.
@chrisrizzo6624
@chrisrizzo6624 4 года назад
Thanks for the info. I appreciate your honest evaluation and appraisal.
@ledzep333thegoodolerocknro4
@ledzep333thegoodolerocknro4 4 года назад
wow cci is my favorite .22 ammo by far. you can clearly tell you are totally correct in your assessment from your video! It's unfortunate cci has such shitty customer service. Hopefully I never deal with them. Glad to see Taurus had your back.
@greenrefrigerator
@greenrefrigerator 4 года назад
You were merely asking for a new replacement barrel and magazine and THAT'S LITERALLY IT, yet these clowns essentially told you to piss off until they watched your video and even then they still trying to say they aren't culpable. Years ago I ran into a very similar incident involving under $100. Instead this very large chain store chose to deny, Deny, DENY and try making it sound like I was trying to shake'em down. I ended up suing them and ultimately they had to pay nearly 20k, 15k of which went directly to ME. I just don't get companies like this.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Yeah I even told them on the very first phone call that they could watch the video on my youtube channel. If I was them, as soon as I heard youtube, I would certainly have been accommodating and trying to make a good name for my company and it's customer service. Instead, there are now thousands of people that know how dirty they operate, with many viewers swearing to never buy their brand again. I would have thought replacing a barrel would have been a better deal for them in the long run. I myself have bought their ammunition for 20 years, easily thousands spent. This is how I get treated after being a loyal customer for 20 years. They ain't getting no more of my money...
@greenrefrigerator
@greenrefrigerator 4 года назад
@@BuckeyeBallistics I've had various cartridge failures over the years but fortunately never anything that resulted in a barrel obstruction but now that we all know how CCI will handle things if this should ever happen to us, I have no intention of buying anymore of their products from hereon. I refuse to reward companies like CCI with my hard-earned money if they're going to play this little game of denying everything. I know these companies have to be careful to not openly admit being at fault because it tends to bring out the moochers but when you have a video-recording illustrating clear evidence of what occured yet they STILL try and include language that blames YOU for it then that's just plain wrong. I think companies like this just have the attitude that most folks aren't really gonna do anything about it despite what they claim they're gonna do, be it suing them or not buying their products anymore. That's why it's important to post things like this on RU-vid because I certainly don't want to deal with these people knowing this is what you can expect should their product(s) ever fail. I can just imagine had this failure took your fingers off they would probably try to make YOU look incompetent to avoid any liability. Sad but this is very likely what they would do.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
@@greenrefrigerator That's exactly why I posted this, the TX22 barrel video, MFT mag video, 715T video, and the Armscor video. I'm tryig to warn my fellow shooters of bad products and or service in our industry. If I find something or service that is junk, I'm going to try to warn others what to watch out for.
@skoch7866
@skoch7866 4 года назад
I agree. I agree that they screwed up, they acted foolishly, they treated you like dirt. Etc. I agree. That being said, I can almost guarantee some useless person already has or will try to intentionally duplicate this by removing the powder from a round all with the intention of suing. THESE are the people that ruin it for the rest of us and sour relationships between companies and customers. Because of this, companies have a responsibility to not become jaded. Customers have a responsibility to remain calm and patient. And we all have a responsibility to promote morals within our society. Being a good person isn't enough, you don't have to be loud but BE VOCAL about being honest.
@gregzeigler3850
@gregzeigler3850 4 года назад
@@BuckeyeBallistics Did you get a new magazine as well? I'd say Taurus is easy to work with, if they will ship you a barrel just on your word alone. There is very few who back their products like that without a run around.
@brimstonefootsteps4332
@brimstonefootsteps4332 Год назад
Very unusual timing for seeing your video. Strangely after watching, all my CCI ammo was mysteriously lost in a boating accident but my Taurus's survived ! Thanks for the video!
@Actual12
@Actual12 3 года назад
Thank you for your videos. Appreciate your work. CCi improperly loaded a round and it got thru Quality Control. Such is life. A "click" is an "off-sounding" round. The moment I saw/heard it in your initial video I said out load to myself "check your barrel!" However, I too have had such an experience to inform my judgement. Mine was a 10mm and the reason I don't like autos not having fully covered slides.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
If you've shot much .22 ammo, especially cheap bulk .22, then I'm sure you've encountered several rounds that just went "click" because of a bad primer and the round didn't go off, as is commonplace with .22 ammunition. I've shot hundreds of thousands of rounds of .22 over the past 20+ years. In that time, and of all those rounds fired, I have heard "click" several hundred times, and it was *always* just simply a bad primer, no big deal. That being the case, that's why when this happened, I figured it was no big deal just like the hundreds of other times I just got a "click" over the past 20+ years. Now I know that's not necessarily the case anymore, and know to always check from now on after "click"...
@markthompson6845
@markthompson6845 4 года назад
Listening to your horror stories, you definitely know what your talking about..and definitely informed a lot of new shooters.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Thank you
@alfredsukeloff7183
@alfredsukeloff7183 4 года назад
@@BuckeyeBallistics There were no issues with Mini Mag or Velocitors right? I think you had a failure to extract with the Velocitors. But you think those 2 are safe and to steer clear of Stingers? Im not sure i even want to touch my 5 bricks of CCI now after seeing your video. This worries me more than any damn virus.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
@@alfredsukeloff7183 It doesn't really matter which version of CCI ammo it is, any has the potential to have this issue. It's all about quality control. I have continued to shoot my stockpile of CCI ammo since this happened and haven't had an further issues. Something happened on the day this stuff was made that allowed this issue to get out the door: equipment malfuntion, employee error, slip by quality control- take your pick. I don't think Stingers are any more likely to have a squib than Mini Mags or any other offering of theirs. Any shell has the same likelyhood of getting contaminated powder or not getting any gunpowder in it at all as another. If it means anything however, I have gotten more viewer reports of issues with Stingers than any other ammunition on this video and others...
@wolfy0129
@wolfy0129 4 года назад
@@alfredsukeloff7183 I know you didn't ask me but the way I see it is that if they made mistakes with 1 version of their ammo they most likely will with all they make. I am disposing of CCI ammo that I already have.
@alfredsukeloff7183
@alfredsukeloff7183 4 года назад
@@BuckeyeBallistics Just saw your reply now. I agree, probly employee error or something. It happens. Dr errors kill 100k people every year. CCI odds are better then Drs. Today I blew through 100 Stingers, 50 Velocitors and at least 50 Minimags. Not 1 malfunction. Then afterwards i stopped at Theisens to restock but insted of CCI the employee recommended Armscor 22lr 36 grain high velocity hp. Its a bulk box of 500 for $20. We'll see if its any good IDK but the employee said he's used it for yrs with no problem and he seemed to love the stuff.
@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin
@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin 3 года назад
Saw the original and the update! Great explanation on the issue. Keep up the good work.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
Thank you and thanks for watching them all.
@wesleytillman9774
@wesleytillman9774 3 года назад
Thanks for the information. Glad I found out that CCI isn't what it used to be.
@johnpindelski6558
@johnpindelski6558 3 года назад
Thanks for the follow up! I just watched the original video before this and wondered how it worked out. CCI has a lot to learn about customer service. Usually eating a few $$$ is the way smarter option than proving you're right & the customer is wrong. Kudos to Taurus for their excellent customer service! I'm glad you didn't get hurt in the incident and that it worked out for you in the long run. Keep on rockin' man!!
@ag4allgood
@ag4allgood 2 года назад
Uh , Taurus customer service gets Kudos ? Guns & Cars was without his new barrel for 12 weeks. Plus if Taurus had a real quality control department in the factory THEY would have spotted the bad BARRELS long BEFORE the buying consumer did ! A company with a lack of quality control will get BAD reviews along with a BAD reputation. Especially if you plan on using the gun to save your life !
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 2 года назад
He may have missed the part about the barrel rifling issue, but it was good of them to replace it no questions asked when CCI just wanted to call me a liar. Yes the TX22's were initially released with bad barrels, but my squib load was 100% CCI ammo and not the gun. The return time was partially due to the barrels being on back order due to how many were faulty, and also due to the fact that they (Taurus) were mid move from one state to another. That being said, I am pretty disheartened (that's putting it nicely) that they didn't issue a recall about the barrel rifling since there were thousands. Then later my slide broke and now that's a common issue, so there's that too. But my Taurus G2 and G3 run flawless for what it's worth...
@JeepnStu
@JeepnStu 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing, I'm going to pay much closer attention to any irregular/off/click sounding CCI ammo I have - any of my ammo for that matter! Don't want to be left high and dry like you almost did. Cheers bro!
@RobWhittlestone
@RobWhittlestone 2 года назад
All customer support services get lots of people tellling tall stories hoping to get free stuff, so no surprise the CCI guy was initially skeptical. It's a fact that not everyone is as honest as you. Great support from Taurus. All the best, Rob in Switzerland
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 2 года назад
I understand that, but that shouldn't mean that 99.9% of their customers get the shaft because they didn't have video evidence...
@michaelramsey3986
@michaelramsey3986 4 года назад
Glad all my c.c.i. ammo is old, back when quality meant something, thanks for the info , glad you were not hurt.
@buzzbombkirk
@buzzbombkirk 4 года назад
I get what you're saying, but even with ideal conditions (>72f, >10% humidity, >21% O²) rimfire ammunition ages and goes bad, mostly due to the primer composition (hehehe actually decomposition!). Do like grocery stores do with stock rotation if you aren't already. Shoot your oldest ammo first, your new ammo should go to the back of the line. Not a bad bet to do this with all ammo, but especially rimfire.
@buzzbombkirk
@buzzbombkirk 4 года назад
Sorry to be "that guy", the RU-vid knowitall. But I learned this lesson the hard way, so I'm hoping other people don't have to repeat my mistakes.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
The older it is the more likely something would occur, I will agree with that. But you should see the video a couple of the bigger channels did (I think taofledermaus was one) where they shot .22 ammo from nearly 100 years ago and it still fired and was even decently consistant.
@gatesmw50
@gatesmw50 4 года назад
@@BuckeyeBallistics Hickok 45 shot some 8 mm Mauser ammo from WW2 on his channel.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Yeah, there's always that. People still shoot surplus 7.62x54 ammo from decades ago, myself included.
@fun1brians
@fun1brians 4 года назад
Great video, super interesting. According to what I learned I will never buy a Tarus or CCI ammo. Nice how you got to the real problem of what happened. New subscriber Brian, thanks!
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Thanks for subcribing Brian.
@pewpew9193
@pewpew9193 3 года назад
It's sad that Aguila ammo is so much better than the American made ammo, but it is.
@dogman_
@dogman_ 2 года назад
I've been using Aguila Super Max since 2000 for squirrel hunting. Never had a problem with their Sub-Sonic, Standard Velocity or Hi Velocity Hp's either. CCi Mini Mags were my go to rounds, but as I've gotten better at hunting and shooting through the years you just can't beat Eley for reliability and accuracy. For plinking any of the bulk ammo will due.
@SecretAgentBond
@SecretAgentBond 4 года назад
Thanks for posting the final resolution to the CCI ammo problem. Count me as one more person who won't be purchasing anymore CCI (or Blazer) products. I will be sticking to my Federal ammo. I'm also glad to see Taurus has better support for their products (even though they failed the QC test) and promised you a new barrel, someday, in the future 🙏
@matsericsson3225
@matsericsson3225 4 года назад
TheDigitalWizCom federal owns CCI......
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
My understanding is that it's Vista Outdoors or ATK. One of them own Federal and now CCI as well; CCI ammunition can now be made in federal factories potentially.
@americanpatriot5764
@americanpatriot5764 4 года назад
😂😂😂
@TR5T
@TR5T 4 года назад
I have used these for years and loved them.
@gregeliason2536
@gregeliason2536 4 года назад
BTW, its not a long video. Just thorough.
@DCCHANNELGUNS
@DCCHANNELGUNS 4 года назад
Great Video !!! Good Information!!!😃
@mattgyure8420
@mattgyure8420 4 года назад
Taurus will always take care of you no matter what. I bought a used PT 22 with plastic grips and the first time I shot it they cracked. I ordered new grips and it did it a second time. I emailed them to see if there was a reason and they had me ship it to them. They never told me why it was cracking the grips but they replace them anyways and also threw in a nice pair of wooden grips free of charge. No problems since then
@83VIP83
@83VIP83 2 года назад
They are MTFuxxxx. Good to you. Keep doing a good job.
@richardmerrill8409
@richardmerrill8409 3 года назад
I love your video. Thank you. It’s ok if it’s long. You covered all the bases. In my opinion they are not marketing or manufacturing geniuses. Any manufacturer worth anything would have said here’s a thousand rounds, a new barrel and sponsorship for your RU-vid channel. Besides, how are you going to hear an “off sounding round” when you have hearing protection on? Count me out as one of their customers.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
I like the way you think...
@earnestblofeld7905
@earnestblofeld7905 4 года назад
I had two squibs within the first five cartridges in a stinger box, both bullets stuck in my barrel. Didn't bother with the rest, tossed em and vowed to never buy Stingers again.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
So I'm not the only one. Thanks for sharing.
@gregggarner2001
@gregggarner2001 4 года назад
Same thing happened to me.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
I'm sure 99% of them are fine, but obviously there are some with issues in circulation.
@boss94ways51
@boss94ways51 3 года назад
Im picking up my tx22 tomorrow.. I got about 10 box of stingers i was going to fire them in the gun...kinda worried now
@winterstorm7245
@winterstorm7245 4 года назад
Your video explaining was accurate, articulate, and very easy to follow people just need to criticize and have an opinion.
@wardroland270
@wardroland270 3 года назад
Thanks g&c. Great job. Good info.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
Thanks
@dondle2
@dondle2 4 года назад
Well done with your videos.I am in the U.K. and use subsonic ammo with a sound moderator for rabbit shooting.Over the years I have used CCI ammo on several occasions but have found them inconsistant accuracy wise, so tend to stick to winchester ammo.
@robertcharlesworth6883
@robertcharlesworth6883 4 года назад
I was looking for a good .22 to shoot as I had terrible results with a conversion kit. I watched all the reviews I could find on the TX-22 including your review. I bought my TX-22 last week but have not shot it yet, but the barrel and rifling look fine. Thanks for your reviews and updates. I hope you will get to enjoy your Taurus TX-22 soon and will be looking to see a review on how you like it after the new barrel.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Well thank you for watching all of the videos! I really like the TX22 a lot, probably my favorite .22 Pistol. I'm really distraught that what happened, happened. I was going to make a bunch more videos with the gun including shooting all kinds of ammo through it, chrono tests, accuracy tests, and 100 yard shooting. Now I'm at a standstill with it and it really sucks. Eventually when they send me my barrel I will be making more videos with it. I have even considered buying a second one so I can make videos with it in the meantime, since I'll have to wait forever for the barrel.
@carlhopkinson
@carlhopkinson 4 года назад
Thanks for the info....I will be sure to check the barrel now on any anomalous discharge.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Thanks for watching
@gregeliason2536
@gregeliason2536 4 года назад
Just saw this vid. Its a very unfortunate experience you had. Luckily you weren't hurt. Unfortunately many gun manufacturers and ammunition nowadays have lost alot of their quality control. I'm also a Buckeye and probably an hour south of you. Keep up the good videos!
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Thanks. Always glad to hear I got another Ohioan. Welcome to the channel!
@jmggai6145
@jmggai6145 4 года назад
Thanks, good buy CCI, sad part is I still have about 1000 rds of CCI 22cal.
@dustdevilz4771
@dustdevilz4771 2 года назад
Great information you’ve presented here. Taurus sent out bad barrels on new guns and CCi has crap customer support.
@dragonrider385
@dragonrider385 4 года назад
Glad to hear your gun will be fixed. At some point. I am a Taurus fan. I like my TX-22 and have had PT-92 and PT-99 9mm in the past. Thanks for the video.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
I love my G2 and TX, have had problems with my Spectrum.
@dragonrider385
@dragonrider385 4 года назад
Guns&Cars not heard of that one.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
@@dragonrider385 The Spectrum? It's a micro .380. I have 3 videos of it on the channel, trying to get it to work.
@dragonrider385
@dragonrider385 4 года назад
Guns&Cars oh ok. 👍👍
@MegaCamaro45
@MegaCamaro45 2 года назад
I bought my taurus tx 22 in February ive put almost 1500 rounds of walmart ammo through and havent had any problems with mine. Its crap that cci wants to blame other factors and not take responsiblity for their product. I just found your channel love the content.
@havocsquad1
@havocsquad1 4 года назад
Misfire or no case ejection = clear weapon and inspect chamber/barrel for obstructions. Squib loads are no joke.
@buzzbombkirk
@buzzbombkirk 4 года назад
Technically you're supposed to wait 30 seconds before doing that, too. Actually 10 minutes to strip the weapon. Slow cooks are more common than squibs in my experience, especially with off the shelf ammo, even more especially with rimfire. We all know that's the rule, but have you ever seen anyone wait? Do you wait? Since you didn't mention it with your advice here, I'm guessing not. I haven't, and I've been an instructor for years and have been around more than 100 instructors - never seen anyone do this. It's easy to know exactly what he should do after the fact, but we should probably give him a break because he did what 99.9999% of everyone does, yourself included probably. If he had field stripped and checked the bore, a delayed cook could have caused serious injuries or death. Replace one rare circumstance with another rare circumstance and your RU-vid advice just killed someone. It was a fluke, so let's all step off our soapboxes for a few. :)
@dilldowschwagginz2674
@dilldowschwagginz2674 4 года назад
Exactly
@scottdavis6734
@scottdavis6734 4 года назад
@@buzzbombkirk you don't need to field strip an auto to check the bore, a cocktail straw will work fine I have dozens in my range bag
@buzzbombkirk
@buzzbombkirk 4 года назад
The proper procedure is to wait, not stick your hand in front of the muzzle of a potentially hot weapon. Which sort of reaffirms my original point. Everyone is quick to criticize this guy for not following proper safety procedures, yet they don't, either.
@buzzbombkirk
@buzzbombkirk 4 года назад
Or do you have some special way of sticking a straw down the muzzle where your fingers aren't in front of the weapon? My point stands. Let it go.
@garryrice1954
@garryrice1954 3 года назад
Very interesting! If I were shooting, I would have had the same experience, because as you said, there was no sound. I don’t know how you would know the primer was ignited. If this had been a full magazine, it would be even harder to recognize. I don’t always count all my rounds accurately while shooting. Hurray for Taurus! Boo for CCI.
@1badpit100
@1badpit100 3 года назад
Amazing video thank you for the content. I just subscribed i love how you went the extra mile so they could not cheat you. Great video and thank you for keeping us informed on the company's policys just in case it happens to someone else. Please let us now the price of repair and how it ended up. Great job 👏 👍
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
The repair was free; Taurus sent me the barrel for free. Thank you for subscribing. I just posted a 10k sub giveaway- check it out and enter the giveaway if you like...
@demetriousmcculler9211
@demetriousmcculler9211 3 года назад
Glad you are safe and is made this video. I also had an issue with cci in my tx22. I was shootin cci quiet and out of 50 rounds only 30 fired and none ot the round ejected but when i shot my federal rounds it worked fine
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
Cci quiet do not have enough recoil to reliably cycle the slide fully to eject the empty shell. However, they make cci quiet "semi auto" that should cycle properly in a semi auto firearm.
@leetexas3924
@leetexas3924 4 года назад
Man, that 'yoyo' is either ignorant or just doesn't give a crap!!! I can tell you and these people I have bought my LAST CCI ammunition! I have several .22 cal weapons and I WILL switch over to FEDERAL completely from now on and I will encourage every one of my friends to do the same. This problem is ENTIRELY CCI's and they are not owning up to this and/or taking care of the problem! Man, I am sorry you had to be the one who has had this problem but, many, many thanks for posting all of this and the videos along with the narration. You explained it ( in my humble opinion) very clearly. I understood what you were saying and (LOL) man, I'm a 72 year old 'novice' !! I sure hope this nightmare they have you in concludes quickly (which it sounds like its not going to) and to your COMPLETE satisfaction. You have been, literally, through hell. Thanks and God Bless my friend....
@bangsdagong
@bangsdagong 4 года назад
im switching too!! aguila and federal from now on!! i used to love blazer but now...zero confidence!!! soo sad!
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Well thank you sir. I'm a bit old fashioned and take more pride in my speach and grammar than some millennials, I've noticed. I too have been thinking about refraining from purchasing any more CCI products, but I was trying to think of what to replace them with because I like to shoot shorts and longs, high velocity and hyper velocity, and everything in between. Perhaps Aguila; I already have several of their offerings. I have so much CCI ammo, all different kinds. I had planned to make videos of each kind, testing and reviewing them, even comparing to other brands. Now I'm not sure what I should do.
@bangsdagong
@bangsdagong 4 года назад
@@BuckeyeBallistics comparing them is a perfect topic. do it! ive shot cci my entire life, im 52, and i love blazer and standard velocity...its match grade stuff! federal match grade is spendy but great. the aguila has become a new favorite....it rocks!!
@bangsdagong
@bangsdagong 4 года назад
@@BuckeyeBallistics for clarification...blazer great for plinking...pretty accurate, consistant..a favorite!!! standard velocity is match grade...best i shot!!!
@markhull1366
@markhull1366 4 года назад
Federal and CCI now owned by the same parent company, Vista Outdoors Link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vista_Outdoor So, you may be in the same boat with them too.....
@mikefloresflotexknives7945
@mikefloresflotexknives7945 4 года назад
Damn that's crazy Bro. No bueno
@lax0598
@lax0598 2 года назад
Thx good wrap up.
@petesilvestri
@petesilvestri 2 года назад
Lessons learned … thanks for posting this
@metocvideo
@metocvideo 4 года назад
You have done all shooters a good turn by persevering with this. A box of ammo with multiple mis-loaded rounds means quality control failure at the factory, bad machine maintenance and inspection. This points to change of management practices, and guess what? CCI are now owned by Federal. So in a nutshell, some penny-pinching corporate suit was nearly responsible for a very nasty accident, and you were saved by a strong barrel in the Taurus. Lots of lessons learned, but not by CCI, apparently.
@Yhrim70
@Yhrim70 4 года назад
@Guns&Cars - Just came across your channel, NEW SUB btw. Used to be a big fan of CCI for 22, specifically the Stingers... but I won't be bothering to buy any more CCI from here forward just because of the fact that they should have taken care of you (their customer) asap and with respect. Glad to hear that Taurus at least took care of you, even if it is going to take a bit. Once you get the new barrel (which with all that's going on.. hopefully you will get it...) you should make a NEW TX22 REVIEW Video with NON-CCI ammo :-) Further, after seeing your video concerning this, for myself and all of those who have never had this happen to them.... From Here Forward, ANYTIME a shell doesn't "appear" to eject, I will be taking it apart to check and clear the barrel, to MAKE SURE it wasn't a squib load stuck in there. I'll also warn others I know of this as well. Thanks for the videos and all the information concerning all this!!
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Thanks for subscribing. I like your video title idea lol, I just might have to do it if I remember whenever I get the barrel (still waiting). Yeah this was a learning experience for me too. Anytime anything seems odd or doesn't work right in the future, I will be checking. A good tip someone recommended was to keep a rod that fits down the barrel on hand. If anything is in question, you can just open the action and put the rod down the barrel until you can see it in the action. If it stops, then you know you got a problem. With this method you can check in about 2 seconds without taking the gun apart. I'm glad you liked the videos and found them informative- thanks again for subbing.
@Yhrim70
@Yhrim70 4 года назад
@@BuckeyeBallistics Yeah I was thinking about using a long barrel flag or even a heavy duty zip tie (as its plastic and won't damage anything), that could be used to quickly run down the barrel for checking also. So good idea, and its faster as you said. In any case, better to be safe than sorry... but at least it only damaged the barrel and didn't cause any injury.
@kennethingle3523
@kennethingle3523 4 года назад
Some people criticize as they are mad you know more than they do,do not let little minded people get you down, you did right keep up the vids thanks
@lknanml
@lknanml 4 года назад
Customer service. It's amazing what a difference it makes.
@KennyB221
@KennyB221 4 года назад
Taurus shows what good customer service is all about.
@kevinmcree8959
@kevinmcree8959 4 года назад
I got a blanket email from the CEO of Taurus USA. He took over in January 2020 and identified and took responsibility for shortcomings in Taurus' customer service and it appear he has made good on his vow to change things for the better. Good for Taurus.
@pickledginger5876
@pickledginger5876 3 года назад
I just applied for my permit, and am learning EVERYTHING from the start. Thank you for the videos, I will be sure to NEVER purchase cci ammo.
@martclark2128
@martclark2128 Год назад
Based on one RU-vidr experience? Damn.
@emo65170.
@emo65170. 4 года назад
Dam. I was thinking about getting one of these. Thanks for sharing your experience. Peace.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Why not get one? Just inspect the barrel first. I made a video showing exactly what to look for...
@dannysnarski2469
@dannysnarski2469 4 года назад
Get the gun, pass on CCI.
@whoishe2527
@whoishe2527 4 года назад
Just bought my tx22 a month ago haven’t been to the range yet to shoot it, I have Remington gold high velocity ammo, and cci mini mag HP 36 grain should I stay away from cci?
@toddreeder3082
@toddreeder3082 4 года назад
Excellent information Brother thank you for explaining in depth man that is awful nice weapon is the TX22 heard nothing but good things about them God Bless Brother
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
She's back and running great now with a new barrel
@joekrim6557
@joekrim6557 4 года назад
Thank you for helping me decide not to buy cci ammo.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
My pleasure 😁👍
@gatesmw50
@gatesmw50 4 года назад
Over the past several years periodically I have had CCI 22LR ammo not chamber in my Smith & Wesson model 34 22LR revolver. It barely fit in the cylinder even though I cleaned it. This does NOT happen every lot of CCI ammo. I know some know it all will tell me the cylinder has a tight chamber. OK so why is it that Remington, Federal, Winchester, S&K , all fight into the cylinder with ease? Never had a problem with any of those brands...ever.
@carlschnackel3051
@carlschnackel3051 4 года назад
I know people who have called CCI for various issues, and they are just matter-of-factly told, "That can't happen," and then the conversation ends. I used to use their primers exclusively, but their arrogance when their customer's call is astounding. Needless to say, when a company's customer service is that bad, I stop doing business with them regardless of how good some of their products are. I'm not surprised to hear that they won't do anything. Frankly, I'm surprised that they're willing to replace the ammo.
@stevendedeian7774
@stevendedeian7774 4 года назад
no critisizing But, you DID fire another shot, after the barrel was swelled..are you saying, you fired another round? and moved 3 bullets thru the bore??? I am a little confused here....my barrel did not swell when it (the SuperX winchester round) blew up in the chamber.....but the round before that one I fired, did the identical thing your round did, and I did NOT print on my target either..leaving me to think the bullet did NOT get stuck in the bore, but trickeled out the barrel and drop way short of the target paper...it did not eject the case, and when I mnually ejected the case, and chambered the next round, it blew the back of the case off and blew the PPKs extractor clean off my pistol..lol
@stevendedeian7774
@stevendedeian7774 4 года назад
they'll say anything not to cover your butt, but def theirs..with a gun like yours, firing out of battery, is nearly impossible..that is NOT an old forearm, it is not worn out internally...Screw CCI..
@stevendedeian7774
@stevendedeian7774 4 года назад
Dude... he couldn't find it..because the SOB didn't look for it...lol
@gregmiller3556
@gregmiller3556 3 года назад
thanks for the video. Been looking at buying this gun.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
My slide just broke, video posted...
@gregmiller3556
@gregmiller3556 3 года назад
@@BuckeyeBallistics well that's not good
@spyder2782
@spyder2782 4 года назад
Thanks for the update
@deadonleprechaun
@deadonleprechaun 4 года назад
💯 true story. I had a TX 22 blow up with using CCI ammo too.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
What happened to yours?
@deadonleprechaun
@deadonleprechaun 4 года назад
Guns&Cars Black on black model I was shooting CCI velocitor the frame broke underneath the barrel. Both the frame and the slide were damaged, the barrel looked OK. Waiting for a replacement from taurus. If I keep seeing these stories it makes me wonder if there’s guns shouldn’t be recalled altogether?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
@@deadonleprechaun I was inquiring as to what caused the damage. Just gun parts failure it sounds like?
@deadonleprechaun
@deadonleprechaun 4 года назад
Guns&Cars the ammo seemed unusually hot and got all kinds of weird FTE’s and FTF’s when golden bullet was shooting without issue. A few light primer strikes with M22 but I think the extra recoil from extra hot/hyper ammo was beating up the gun making it break the slide. I have a picture of the gun if you want to see it. I can’t find a way to post any pictures here or contact you with RU-vid.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
@@deadonleprechaun I'm assuming that you have shot Velocitors before? Because they are a lot hotter than high velocity rounds by design, because they are 40 grains at 1400ish fps instead of 36-40 grains at 1200ish fps like most high velocity rounds. So if you are familiar with them and know this, then you are telling me you got even hotter than normal ones, which is definately a problem. Otherwise, yeah, they have more pop. You can post a picture on youtube under the "community" tab, if that's available to you. Back when they started it you had to have so many subs to be able to post with it, not sure about now. Or you could post a quick video of it. Also back in the day you were able to recieve private messages on youtube, but they did away with that.
@jamesjanzen7678
@jamesjanzen7678 4 года назад
Yup. Sounds cooperate. I'm going to film every shot from now on. What a shame,bet if it blew up blew the hell up, with no video, well you can guess. Wow. Considered on buying cci for little pocket rocket, but now not so sure. I know the odds aren't great for it happening again, but if they gave you this much grief.. Love Taurus. Great company. Have a few and never had any issues with them. CCI ????!! Not so sure...........
@tcbkkb1
@tcbkkb1 4 года назад
Thanks for update! Both of these companies need to update their customer service, quality control and production especially when we are the ones who pay their salaries!!! We the People!
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Couldn't agree more. I'm glad Taurus is taking care of it, but having to wait months for a new barrel is bull.
@DeanMk1
@DeanMk1 4 года назад
Dude! Sorry you had to endure that, but glad you're ok.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
I'll be ok when I get my barrel lol.
@DeanMk1
@DeanMk1 4 года назад
@@BuckeyeBallistics So you'll be pissed for only 7 years. Got it. Thanks for the update! =))
@rickplathe2978
@rickplathe2978 4 года назад
Thanks no CCI for me! I appreciate the video and heads up.
@jwar2163
@jwar2163 4 года назад
I have a shite load off CCI 22LR that I purchased when I purchased my wife a S&W MP22 semi auto . Now I am worried about running that ammo through the pistol. If a manufacture does not stand behind their product I can not support that manufacture. BTW thanks for sharing your experience. I have experienced issues with 22 short and 22LR in my Ruger Super Six and When I contacted Ruger I found out that that Ruger had issued a safety recall on the model of pistol due to hammer drop while loading when pistol was hot. At that time the 22LR and 22 short ammo was fine it was just part of the safe cock holding assembly coming loose when hot and after extended use.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Thanks for watching and commenting
@jeffhicks1008
@jeffhicks1008 4 года назад
To add to my first comment, I would have said to you on this issue if I were management at CCI is thanks for telling us about this problem and glad you are not injured and by the way we are sending you that $30 new barrel and 500 rounds.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
That would have been nice...
@tonkaGuy888
@tonkaGuy888 3 года назад
Jeff Hicks Right? For less than $100 this incident would be history and they’d look like heroes instead of goats, not to mention the negative million dollars in bad publicity this will end up costing them. I guess no one in CCI’s customer service is familiar with social media.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
@@tonkaGuy888 Exactly
@DP-mi5ct
@DP-mi5ct 4 года назад
Thx for updating
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Yes sir, thank you for watching the update.
@udmbfckx2916
@udmbfckx2916 4 года назад
Thanks for being honest. The lesson for the rest of us? Clearing a malfunction means looking at the shell/unfired load you are clearing out of the gun and thinking about what has happened. In this case, he could have checked/thought out that #3 did eject properly (it did go boom) and when clearing number 4, it did not have a projectile attached to the shell and there was no boom....so therefore there is something missing to be accounted for.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Yeah basically always check the barrel
@buzzbombkirk
@buzzbombkirk 4 года назад
I think CCI might be right in this case. The first (non gnarly) shell casing showed I OoB, right? So the gas escapes the wrong way, you get a squib. Makes sense, except that you never heard the 4th bang, right? The fourth bang would be simultaneous with the 3rd. I'm sure we've all had slam fires, and unless you're talking rotating lug bolt design or some sort of delayed roller system, its impossible to distinguish between the two pops. Hell, even with delayed actions it's still almost imperceptible usually. And with super hot ammo, that ejector can turn into an ad hoc firing pin. Let's not forget this is exactly how John Norrell builds full auto 10/22s. Once that squib was in the barrel, the rest was pretty much inevitable. Everyone wants to do the hindsight 20/20 thing, but funny enough no one accounts for slow cooks and while preaching that in this rare circumstance you should have field stripped your weapon....none of them talk about the 10 minute or 30 second wait. So if this was a slow cook vs squib, their advice would kill you. I think maybe everyone needs to keep the preaching to church and give this guy a break. It was a freak circumstance, but it was most likely caused by the gun/ammo combo. I'm not the smartest guy on RU-vid, though - so if someone knows something I'm not considering, share please.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
I could be wrong, but personally I think the first shell that blew the bottom out just a little (not the one that completely exploded) was due to a squib load also. Squibs cause a buildup of pressure if another round is fired behind it, and this can blow out the bottom/rim of the shell. I think it was just much further down the barrel, at the very tip, so it wasn't as explosive as the one that got stuck and caused the explosion at the end that damaged the gun. Just my opinion, could be wrong. Another reason I lean torwards this is because the gun only had a few mags through it when this occured, so I doubt very seriously that there was already enough carbon buildup to not let the shell go into full battery. And also, if one wants to claim I may have "outran" the gun and caused it to fire out of battery, then they should watch my "tx22 full auto" video where I bump fired it very rapidly several times without any issues. So obviously I cannot outrun the gun. Thank you for the support on all your comments and for watching the videos.
@buzzbombkirk
@buzzbombkirk 4 года назад
@@BuckeyeBallistics exactly. I mean, without a time machine there's no way to know for sure....but that makes the most sense.
@44hawk28
@44hawk28 4 года назад
I think this guy is grasping at straws. There was no other reason why there was an empty shell immediately before the one that went kablooey. Otherwise you're looking at two or three rounds in the barrel before the last one went off. The video doesn't indicate that the video indicates a single round squib load.
@anthonymartinez9323
@anthonymartinez9323 4 года назад
great information. !!!!
@rocketscientist007
@rocketscientist007 4 года назад
I've had a TX-22 since January; it's been great, so far. I've only fired CCi Mini Mags & Std Velocity. However, notice how thin the barrels are on these, I would be very careful with any ammo with higher pressures than high velocity. I'm surprised that Taurus doesn't have a disclaimer on ammo type. You could never bulge a barrel on a Ruger MkII bull barrel. I'm with you 100%, no one would ever think a click is a squib. A dud is not a squib. Be glad that Taurus is taking care of you; in the past their CS was abysmal. BTW, my TX-22 is the the reversed color combo, i.e. Burnt Bronze slide over Black frame. It's not even shown on Taurus website.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
I have seen those here. Sometimes manufacturers make custom color combos for the sellers know as "dealer exclusives." My 10/22 for example was a dealer exclusive, purple laminated stock. Came from Ruger that way, but you could only find it at certain retailers and it wasn't on Rugers website.
@rocketscientist007
@rocketscientist007 4 года назад
Got it from Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore. I know what "dealer exclusives" are, but it wasn't indicated as such. They still have some, but the price has gone up $100, like all firearms right now.
@robertlyman9789
@robertlyman9789 3 года назад
I have read issues with barrels, maybe buy an aftermarket barrel right away!
@dwaynewalker986
@dwaynewalker986 4 года назад
So what responsibility do you , as the person firing the gun, accept in this matter? ANY anomaly or abnormality when firing that gun should have been investigated before continuing to shoot any further. Nit-pick between "off-sound" and "no sound" all you want, the fact is you knew something wasn't right and you blindly ignored it and continued firing. Anyone could pull a bullet from a casing, empty the powder, replace the bullet, load it into a gun, fire it while recording a video, totally ignore the squib round they created not functioning as usual, and then try to extort money from either the gun or ammunition manufacturer by telling them repeatedly " I have this on video." ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SAFELY OPERATE THAT GUN . You knew something wasn't right and like a happy dumb-ass you just kept right on going .
@donnyarmstrong9559
@donnyarmstrong9559 4 года назад
I have watched all 3 video's now, and the whole time I'm watching them, I'm starring at a partial box of Stinger here near the computer. The reason its partial is because 11 rounds are in my new LCP 2, and 20 more in the my spare mags for said pistol. While the ammo was purchased recently, about 3 weeks ago, I don't know how long they were at the gun shop before I purchased them. Looks like its time to get out the old Remington single shot rifle and let the Stingers go ONE AT A TIME, and look into a different flavor of ammo for the LCP 2 while its here in the house.....
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Well thank you for watching all 3. C12A103 was the lot number, printed in black on the side, if that helps. But who's to say they only had issues with that lot and only that lot...
@dannysnarski2469
@dannysnarski2469 4 года назад
I would not use the Stingers in your (or any) pistol. They will be fine in the single shot. Many high-end barrel manufacturers caution you to NOT to use Stingers due to the slightly longer case length. There is the problem, the case is longer than normal, hence the higher powered round. In general, I find standard velocity to be more accurate and do not have any function issues even in pistols that specify "high velocity rounds only." In my experience, in the case of .22lr, more expensive, higher velocity rounds are a waste of money. Less accurate, louder and more expensive. Lately I have been using Federal 45 grain "suppressor" rounds, sub-sonic, 970 feet per second and they reliably feed in my Sig 1911-22 that is "High Velocity" only. The CCI 45 grain suppressor works just as well. At any rate, less seems to be more these days. Play safe :) Thanks.
@robertlyman9789
@robertlyman9789 3 года назад
Donny Armstrong me too. New gun with recommendations to use CCI, had FTE/FTF rounds with Winchester
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 года назад
Aguila
@jamesrush8300
@jamesrush8300 4 года назад
Happens to the best of us. Live and Learn. I'm not going to stop using CCI ammo, considering I've got too much of it to toss it all. You know how it sounds and feels when you fire each round in each of your firearms. When that feeling changes, you'll know to stop, drop the mag, eject the round and investigate. Just a thought. Glad you're ok and nobody was hurt.
@barrygoodson4952
@barrygoodson4952 3 года назад
You are correct the video saved you on this !
@sunray0162
@sunray0162 4 года назад
I have shot thousands of bulk 22lr ammo through all my rifles and pistols and I have never had an issue. In my opinion CCI spends more money on their packaging than their actual bullets.
@Sport--willow
@Sport--willow 4 года назад
Confirmed! I will not buy CCI ammo every again!
@MrPete1530
@MrPete1530 4 года назад
I want to cry bad since I just bought 5 CCI Stinger 50 rounds boxes 2h prior watching this. I am happy that they helped with your situation and you were not harmed at the time of the incident. Haven’t shot it yet but I am scared now, lol.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
Should be fine. Took me 20 years to find a dud like that.
@MrPete1530
@MrPete1530 4 года назад
Guns&Cars thank you so much for the high hopes and you have great videos man, keep it, you just made yourself a subscriber here. 👍🏼
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 года назад
@@MrPete1530 Thanks, glad to have you aboard.
@ashinch0r
@ashinch0r Год назад
Well CCI convinced me to never buy their rounds. Thanks for the helpful video!
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