“Tech in the wrong hands is bad, the Mojave is proof” “Tech in the wrong hands is bad, the Commonwealth is proof” Jesus. Bethesda taking the entire plot point of a game one throwaway line.
There's a really unique sense that Lonesome Road gives you, makes New Vegas seem complete. Ulysses and Courier Six might be meeting each other for the first time, but their shared histories through travel make Lonesome Road feel like a real climactic confrontation for the fate of the Mojave between two messengers who finally get to make their peace with each other beneath an Old World Flag. Unlike Lanius and Oliver, who you can likewise talk down but I will sometimes take on if I want a final little challenge (or to command Yes Man to throw from the dam), I never feel the need to fight Ulysses in combat. He's not wrong when he speaks about how the factions' flaws mean grave harm for smaller communities, especially those that live outside their expansionist framework, and does speak from experience throughout his dialogue, whether he's criticizing the NCR, Legion, or House. Despite his antagonistic nature, Ulysses seems like one of the few people in the game who bring an earnest and in-depth critique of the factions and the settings; NCR is too reliant on recreating a world that led itself to nuclear armageddon, House would led the world turn to ash again as long as he'd make money, and the Legion can only survive as long as it has a strong leader like Caesar, or has more territory to constantly annex, two things that cannot be guaranteed by any metric. His dialogue honestly had me rethink my choice in faction in his critiques, and his tone brings emphasis and knowledge to things, further painting his past of a deeply knowledgeable, and traumatized, courier.
Fallout 4: Maxon gives you the orders, go and kill A, B and C and come back, aight? - like 1 or 2 minutes long speech Fallout NV: Ulysses makes a whole essay about his philosophy and everything - almost 2 hours of talking
1:09:05 The conversation about ED-E’s logs reminds me of classic Fallout dialogue with the Master. I feel like the fact that you can defeat Ulysses using contextual evidence gathered throughout the Divide is a tribute to Vree’s research on super mutant sterility.
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"hey, you know those two factions that are core to the world of the game? yeah, this character is dumb for having to reference them by name repeatedly, even though thats how we as humans refer to things. you know, by name." listen to yourself. his dialogue is so much deeper than that. most of it is spent speaking of more abstract things like symbols, the message you taught him, and the parts of history he carries. such a braindead meme that isn't funny in the slightest.
It’s Hella funny I hadn’t thought about corpse has been in a while and recently I’ve been into fallout new Vegas and I just got done with the Lonesome Road DLC and hearing their voices they really do sound similar but it’s nuts
The virgin Fallout 2 Enclave with complex lore and ideologies vs the chad Fallout 3 ‘just past a speech check and you’ll change my entire worldview’ Enclave
@@duatia5315 what do you mean complex lore and ideologies? Fallout 2 enclave was "we are the US government and we are going to commit genocide with the FEV." the Colonel Autumn enclave was like "we're gonna make an actual government" and then you kill him and die of radiation poisoning.
@@court_of_thecrimson_kingfi4984 Have you played Fallout 2? Because that's a basic overview of a faction you get an extensive look into in FO2 that 3 just takes and uses for fan service.
@@duatia5315 im not trying to say fallout 3 is better than fallout 2, because that's patently ridiculous. what I was trying to say was that in fallout 2, the enclave was The Bad Guy, who wanted the complete and total antihalation of everyone that wasn't absolutely confirmed to be 100% mutation free(meaning exclusively members of the enclave). In fallout 3, the enclave is shown to have two main factions within it, that being the Eden Enclave, which was basically the same as the richardson enclave but with a computer as the president, and the soldiers under Colonel Autumn, who wanted to regulate the project purity water and use it as the basis for them controlling the population. In this case, "cool" means "not genocidal." No wastelander(note: ulysses is a wastelander) with half a braincell would ever side with the Richardson/Eden enclave, because their goal specifically is to kill wastelanders. Colonel Autumn's enclave forces don't have a primary goal of their operation as: "eradicate wastelanders"
Fucking great writting staff right there. You can tell those guys put passion into this game. Fallout 4 is a fun sandbox but a fucking disgrace scenario-wise.
a whole hour and a half of a nothing sandwich and word salad that said "I'm mad because you delivered a nuclear detonator to my home even though as a courier I know that some times we are unaware of what are in packages we deliver so I really shouldn't blame you but then my character would have no meaning... also fuck your robot"
Maybe I'm a 1 iq build but I have never understood a single god damn thing Ulysses has ever said it's all like vague or over metaphored I literally just ignored him the entire dlc
what's not to understand? the community that was forming in Hopeville that you either carelessly or possibly intentionally destroyed- he saw that as a potential new home/second chance for humanity. it's never directly stated, but he alludes to it as having the potential to be greater than the Bear, Bull, and most importantly, the Old World, by taking the best principles/ideas of what America stood for before the bombs fell, (according to his talk with the Think Tank in Big MT) and adapting them to the wasteland, instead of just being a thoughtless copy of the Old World. it had the potential to be the evolution of America. he sees no future in either Bear, Bull, BoS. Bear is slowly dying of corruption, attached to principles it doesn't understand the history of, (ex. it's a democratic republic, but why did it decide on that?) Bull only survives through conflict and domination, overextending will kill it, if running out of things to pillage doesn't get it first. BoS is wrong to rely on technology, without proper principles, goes for both Elijah and Christine's verisons with slight differences. The only part that might get muddled or confusing is when he talks about more abstract things like messages, symbols, and history. to summarize his ideology, he believes in having conviction in a cause, any cause, that is the most important thing a person should have, and by testing that ideology, by being "willing to let it burn," by implementing it to its fullest capacity and letting it prove its worth/utility. he does like to "wax poetic" about certain history being lost to time, with the tribes, Ulysses S. Grant, the Old World, but this helps flesh out the whole "warrior poet, contemplative, avenging observer" thing he has going on. he hates symbols that people misinterpret or reference without meaning, (braids, old world flag, siding with no faction) and places emphasis on the power of one individual, especially with the messages, intentional and unintentional. your carelessness that destroys Hopeville is what makes him realize he too can destroy what he opposes, if you can achieve that without meaning to, he can achieve the same with conviction.
@@marcelosoares7148 this is the pinnacle of what the Fallout series is known for, the "man in the room" moment, where you're tasked with opposing a radically different view, and you find it boring? this is a beautiful evolution of the Master's final encounter at the end of Fallout 1, and you got bored of it? physical pain.
One of the most shit dlc I've played. I hate when devs make forced backstory to your character in a RPG. My courier wouldn't have "accidentally" nuked a place. Nv had garbage writing in general.
