Unconventional System Communication | Dissociative Identity Disorder 

That's very clever :) -Wyn

The Entropy System yay, glad you like our technique ☺️

We do the same. We each have our own playlist that others can use when we need a specific person's help

Sun Tempest Drake Shine yes! We have individual playlists too!

Sad to say... I use to use music to drown them out so I couldn't hear them. Especially while I was sleeping. They started getting louder the more I tried to ignore them. And this was recommended by my therapist at the time. I stopped doing it about a month after I stopped going to that therapist.

this is one of the most amazing things l have heard so far about a system. you're really lucky!

@@Liravin Thank you! Yes I know we are so so lucky to have her. She's pretty much the entire reason we've made it this far, and why it took so long to figure out that I'm even part of a system--she would fill alters in on what was happening so it didn't seem like there were memory gaps--until she got so exhausted from running the system almost entirely by herself that she went dormant and it became very obvious very quickly that something wasn't normal. It was so funny when I would try to describe it to other people I'd be like "idk what happened suddenly the voice who filled me in on things and told me what was going on is just... Gone? And now it's like I blink and suddenly it's hours later and I don't know where I am-which is normal-but now I can't just ask for help" and let's just say my friends looked at me like I was from another planet and that's when I realized I needed to go to a psychologist lol

I don't like to check physical notes either... One of our persecutors left threatening notes for us to find so it's kinda of terrifying to find any sort of physical note cause I automatically assume it's going to be from Simon.

@@fsociety2thearttrain let me know if you decide to write a book about it; l would so read that (*______*)

I’m just really surprised that my system is kinda the same way. And by that I mean that there’s an alter that can semi communicate with the other alters at will

That's fascinating! I'm glad Echo is there to help you all out. -Wyn

Now that is pretty cool!

tg- we have a headmate with a similar function (but more geared towards headspace function in general) called whisp who can find and pass messages to pretty much everyone which is nice -dave

Esterix Update: One of my alters turns out to be able to communicate with the whole system! Hopefully they’ll be as good at the job as Echo

I sometimes have the same problem. Sometimes my System will completely shut me out. I have a really hard time with it too and it can make me go into a downward spiral. Have you and/or your therapist found anything that helps bring contact back?

Tan San using positive triggers can help. i like to use music, art, and games that are specifics to each alter. sometimes you’ll feel their presence and they won’t say anything, other times they’ll front just for a bit, other times they’re sleeping. i’ve gone around a month without having communication with anyone, i started to believe i no longer had it. i’ve learned they always come back though. they’re not as far as we may perceive.

@@mariahalizee I love the idea of using positive triggers! I never thought of that...thanks (:

Can relate

Yeah same, I always thought something was wrong with me. I’m host and I exist in a part of the inner world we call the “dark space” which doesn’t have access to the inner world and most of the time no one is in there but me. I was able to piece together the inner world a bit as memories came to the surface from other alters, but I still have no idea how large it is. I also go through transitional periods where sometimes we switch a lot while other times I function almost like a singlet. I’ve functioned as a pseudo-singlet for a few months now. Sometimes I still hear voices but there’s minimal “risk” (it’s not a bad thing, I just don’t know how to word it) of switching. It’s nice to know others have similar (and different) experiences.

Duck Fayce hey! I’m not sure if this is still a problem you’re facing but I just wanted to say that it’s super normal. I’ve tossed around the possibility of having osdd-1 of some sort (I think I probably do but I haven’t talked it over with my therapist yet) and have experienced the same fear that internal communication may just be intrusive thoughts. I will say that if you’ve grown up as a system, your perception/personal definition of intrusive thoughts may have been shaped by your system experiences - that is, what you think is a regular intrusive thought may be something that non-dissociative people never experience, because it’s not an intrusive thought, but a system thing. I’m not sure if that makes sense. For me I feel like the difference is in the tone and subject matter? Like if I’m watching a play and I think “what if I just ran onto the stage right now”, that’s an intrusive thought. But the other day I had what might have been a little come out to journal and I was like “thanks bro” and a voice in my head said, very loudly, I’M A GIRL. That felt more like a communication thing than an intrusive thought - it had volume, feeling, and intent, whereas intrusive thoughts feel more passing and mundane to me. Not sure if this is helpful but that’s my experience! I hope you’re doing well!!

JESUS CHRIST, SAME. but yeah what we consider normal intrusive thoughts may actually be abnormal to singlets, I'm realizing. Because I do have a lot of moments where the thoughts/communication just seem so OUT THERE and out of context that I'm like "whoa.. that was definitely [alters name]. But yeah, the feeling of faking it is absolute h e l l. I just recently got diagnosed and sometimes the doubt spirals into me just thinking I'm crazy. I hate it so much -_-

@@Anna-cu7iz for us, all the voices sound the same but I feel a different base behind it. If its an intrusive thought there's no base but say its C (a protector) the 'sound' isn't any different but I feel his strength and strong morals. If its a little I may feel the solemn sadness or the amazing energy and happiness. -K

@@KitFinn133 I haven’t heard anyone else talk about voices sounding the same. This made me feel so valid :’)

@@Luna-sc5lt you are valid and loved. Never forget it. :) -18

Ahh! I follow your Instagram I didn't know you had a youtube ♥️

I'm sorry if my question will look inappropriate, but: 1. What is hospital? Alters can get sick incide head? 2. You have, like, real manor and hospital, and, um.. maybe street's in your head? I'm sorry again ^^

We're usually pretty isolated anyway so really nothing has changed. It's also kinda of ironic considering systems are never really alone. ;) Though honestly I hate only being able to talk to my alters... It's like only being able to talk to a sibling or a room mate, some times you just want to get out and talk to literally anyone else who you don't share a living space with.

@@RialVestro I completely understand what you mean. It's as though you have been locked in a head with people almost your whole life who you didn't choose and now you have nobody else to talk to. It's really similar to having siblings although I think I prefer some of my alters to my brother lol.

I love this idea. My littles are thinking maybe we could have a crow NPC for this. Thanks!

Wyn is a ridiculous detective. If something is new or doesn’t make sense she wants to find answers STAT! -Kim Kim

Voyage System ours is very similar to that!! 💗💗💗 we also have OSDD-1b

@Operetta System we've been trying to combat that by working Daniel up to being a co-host and it surprisingly seems to be working. We werent sure we'd be able to conciously shift the structure of our system. Its not easy or anything, but When Daniel hosts now I can leave front to an extent I havent been able to do since Apryl was host in our childhood! 🍀

Thats generally how it works in my system as well but we struggle a lot with that and other similar things as symptoms because it can make us feel like were not validly separate.

@@footstuck97 You all are not alone! I'd say thats pretty amazing that 4 systems who have never met and interacted with eachother share the same experiences. You should check out the rings system, they are an osdd-1b system who ya'll might really resonate with. 🍀

That’s what used to happen to me (host), I was stuck in a black room with a sofa, until I got access to a lake. I sit by the lake nowadays. And same with the amnesia thing and notes, although we’re undiagnosed ☺️

Oooh these are some good ideas! Thank you for sharing. My system communication is like medium-low (if that makes sense) and a lot of the mental/physical notes we make don't get through. The emotional imprinting is for sure a method we'll try, mirrors too! Can you elaborate more on somatics and how you use them?

@@Lynn-ee9hq Sure! Somatics/Psychosomatics for us is a way of feeling something that is/isn't there. Think phantom limb but tailored to each alter or for the techies (body = hardware, somatics = firmware, alter = OS). It's generally our way of feeling at home when it is not truly our body. As for communication with somatics. It is kind of like politely entering/acknowledging someone walking into a room while the other is on the phone. Except the room is your body and the acknowledgment is in the form or a somatic presence. A tap on the shoulder, a twitch, the flexing of wings, the flick of a tail, sensing parts that are not present, the feel of an alters inner world aesthetic, you get the idea. It is as much an attention grab as it is a protective measure. It lets the fronter know who is present/paying attention and able to step in or comfort. If it is important an imprint will be sent along to signify intent. This can range from a simple "hi", to "can I take over", or "Shits going down and we need you inside". Hope that clears things up.

If we do it long enough and focus on the details of the emotions the alter who is feeling them will come closer to the front. -Wyn

@@TheEntropySystem oh, that makes sense.

Can’t wait to meet you at the conference!!

With the whole social distancing thing going on, is that even still happening? I was planning on going to a local comic con in May as well but now I'm not sure if it's even still happening or being moved to a later date. I don't know if I'd be able to make to the event in SF anyway and I won't know till it's closer to November. I don't live there and would need to take the transit from San Jose... but I don't know if I'll be in San Jose around that time? My ex never gives me any advanced notice when we're doing anything which is annoying and kind of irritating. Point is my attenting the event kinda relies on my being in the bay area around that time.

@@RialVestro I'm not sure if it's still happening. I'm from the San Jose area too though, so if it is still happening and I'm able to find a way to buy a ticket we could ride public transit together if you want :)

I wanted to ask you, if you wrote something about your DID as one alter, can you surprise another alter if they did not know you watched this video when they get likes and comments on something they don't remember writing? This sentence might not make sense, I am sorry 🙈

That is amazing thank you for sharing! I'm part of a fairly new system and i really related to this, it contributes to a lot of paranormal experiences we hve had that coincides with the times i remember meeting some other alters

We also actually have an alter named Shadow who works emotionally and the only way he can speak to us comfortably on the outside is by wearing earplugs and being in complete darkness, and he can barely stand to speak above a whisper. But he communicates with maladaptive daydreams as well as intense emotions that "blend" into our thoughts

That's really interesting. I know this is an old comment but I'm tentatively exploring the possibility that I may have some type of dissociative disorder. I have a fictional world, characters, and storylines in my head. It's interesting to think that on the small chance I could be part of a system, those may be expressions of alters in some way. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

@@yoyoyoyo-lq4jb thank you very much, RU-vid doesn't probably notifi me on comments, likes, and videos. By the time I found the notification panel on RU-vid this comment was too old to see if I had any activity on. Also I felt the hug comment was a little cringe, as was written by someone with way more confidence and so was too nervous to check, but your comment inspired me to check, so thanks!

I like the idea of a private discord server. That sounds way more convenient than carrying around a journal. -Wyn

@@TheEntropySystem yeah! it's definitely more convenient imho, that's why i started doing it

We do that too... and it's gotten us into a lot of trouble cause we often talk on forums and stuff mostly about Transformers but keep relying on a crap swiss cheese memory rather than just looking up the info we're talking about. I even managed to remember parts of a movie I just watched wrong. Like I thought the tracker in the Last Knight was placed on Cade's truck but it was actually on Bumblebee and I got very confused later in the movie when Drift took it off Bumblebee because I was convinced that it was on Cade's truck. Rewatched that scene later and Cade's truck wasn't even in frame at that point and it was clearly Bumblebee in the shot. Still have no idea how I mixed that up.

@@RialVestro lol can relate usually for us its actually important things we forget, or whatever we just read

Hey can you help me understand how you were dx with OSDD 1b with a fronting alter and memory issues. asking bc I question my DID dx. Thank you!!!!

@@schan4713 oh sorry idk how to help, we dont have amnesia like did, just bad short term memory, when we dissociate our thoughts are thought and then just vanish and we usually forget what we were thinking of we get emotional amnesia and have amnesia regarding our trauma (no clue what happened there we only know it even happened because of how the timeline is) but we dont get full amnesia its possible that in diagnosing you they didnt take osdd into account, my therapist didnt know what osdd was until i told them to look it up, which is fair they dont specialize in that, but after learning about it and me suggesting i could possibly have it they agreed

paper airplanes ! We use them too in my part of the inner world. Most of the time, it's easier for us to materialise a thought and send it than desperately trying to have a conversation with an alter far in the inner world... To make quick choices, we've got a white board and each alter can send a thought (yes, no, don't care) and a megaphone to broadcast to all the inner world or at least the biggest part... (English is not our first language so, sorry If I made mistakes)

@@ikmin5462 That totally makes sense to me. We don't have a megaphone and our whiteboard is more a converted part of the observation screen, but basically, yeah. That pretty much describes what we've experienced too.

Same here- we think it has to do with how we formed to replace those disorganized attachments and to create a support network. Though there are signs showing up recently of more to our system,,,

That’s a good way to think of it!

I'm glad that's a tool you can use!

I don’t have DID either but I talk out conversations I think I might have with someone or would want to have, I imagine what they’d say and I reply out loud

Marie Daudrix have you considered getting an app like Tupperbox? It allows you to have multiple “profiles” from one account! (With their own name and icon!) it might be really helpful since you use discord!

@@Thinking-OutLoud Hi, my phone is very old and we basically spend our life on our computer ^^ so I'm not use to apps iphones etc. those things other young people know XDD. Is it available with only a computer ?

Tupperbox is a bot for Discord that allows posts from one Discord account to appear as multiple users based on different tags used when posting. It's cool. We use it in our system discord. Everyone has their own profile pics and everything. It's not difficult to set up.

@@yokkosoneko Also, I only recently found out that I have a system (our protector/memory keeper/I-don't-know-how-to-label-him-he's-in-charge-of-stuff decided it was time for me to know, and a ton of people have come forward so I can know them in a short amount of time).. So far, I'm always co-conscious when there's someone up front (which is frequently right now, almost all the time), and I'm starting to hate it. It's so exhausting. Do you get tired being co-conscious all time time?

@@leewolfe2714 Thank you for the answer with tupperbox (i've never used any bot so I'm kind of still lost ^^ strange from a person who spend her life on a computer, I'm not good at it ^^ (by the way, i'm french, not perfectly fluent in english so if the app is only available in english, it would take me longer to understand it ^^) And to answer your question about co-consciousness : I get tired sometimes. I'll list you the reasons why I can get tired to explain more ^^ : 1) when someone speak inside the same moment when someone speak outside. People who dont know there's more than me in my head and body tend to think I have difficulty to focus.... And they're kinda right. It's hard for me to focus on the innerworld at the same time than focussing on the physical world. 2) When we argue. It's rare. Very rare. We tend to listen to each other most of the time. But when more than 10 people speak at the same time in your head. We get headaches. 3) To give everybody a part of the external life. Not easy to do. My role is to talk with other people and socialization is a big, big part of it. I think everybody has the right to choose if they want to impact or not the external world (by writing poems, drawing, or do sports....). And the more we are, the less it is easy to give everyone enough time. That's why we love group activities (when we play the sims2 or when we watch series, films, youtube videos...). It tires me to organize it. But organizing it makes me happy ^^, makes us happy (I've been corrected by Maëllys from inside xddd). 4) Relationships are tiring sometimes. When we go through blurred phases, or when we face passive influence. My boyfriend is very understanding, he loves me and loves the body, and made it clear that he don't mind other people taking control of the body, he agrees with us that it's part of our freedom to be who we are. But to speak frankly, not everyone in the headspace love him as a boyfriend... and sometimes, it gets weird ^^ (for example : We walk with my boyfriend outside hand in hand, there's a dog in front of us, so that the dog can't feel my fear, I switch and let Jins take the lead, and in one second my body don't hold my boyfriend's hand anymore and my boyfriends speak with a guy who walks maybe 50 centimeters away next to him.... Then, after the dog is gone, Jins let me come back and I say to my boyfriend "sorry Jins did not hold you hand for a while". Relationships can be more difficult with people who don't know our multiplicity. Suddenly, if some of my headmates say "I don't like this person, please I don't want to hear him/her, take us away. I often listen more to my headmates (like a family for me) and have no explanation to give... it's not always easy to say "i like you, but someone inside my body doesn't". We tend to make effort to tolarate people not everyone like, it's the most common way to live our relationships. But sometimes it's hard. I lost some "friends" because of my headmates, but I'll prefer that than loosing headmates for "some new friends" I think I've mentionned every kind of problem that we faced ^^

Crew is a great term ^_^ and using a discord server with emojis and gifs is such a brilliant idea! -Wyn

Cell phones that let you leave messages? That’s brilliant! -Kim Kim

Thank you!

Have you managed to get an appointment yet? Not all therapists are good at treating or understanding DID but good therapy is probably the best option. I think you can also try to reach out to the potential alters in a friendly way and see what happens. Either way, good luck!

forestofthoughts Hi, thanks for asking. Yes, I did get to go to my therapist last week, but it didn’t help very much. I was telling her about how working isn’t possible anymore and how my day to day life is so chaotic, and she bombed me with “I think you have autism”, and started explaining what it in-tales for women and all... I related to a lot of it, but when she suggested starting up different medication I was hesitant...I finally got to the point were I could tell about the voices and dissociation, and she just said that the medication will help for that.She’s helped me out a lot with EMDR treatment for trauma, she’s the one that diagnosed me with Borderline five years ago, and now she casually went: I don’t think you have Borderline, I think you have Autism...pfff well, my mind just went: are you gonna give me another diagnoses in a couple of years? I don’t question her intentions, but it was really confusing and upsetting...she did recommend me a book and see if I relate to it, and suggested we do some testing. I am going to get a second opinion from a psychiatrist though, but that means starting this journey all over again so it’s gonna be a though ride...

We have no plans of stopping soon :D

Boinging! Spell check kept changing it to bringing. The littles saw a tiny trampoline next to the tree on the street with a free sign. I can hear them with their boing pick up that boing. Lol