the whole topic they wanna debate him in is also even more disingenuous 😂 "is "darwinism" true? is "creationism" science?" these people have totally lost it they can t update tgeir script anymore😂
It's just so stupid- all they need to do is stay in their lane - don't call faith and supernatural concepts science, and don't deny science based on said faith They just can't help themselves though
He's a classic loser. Unfortunately his followers, like many others political zealots nowadays, will never consider information that doesn't conform to their world view. A sad day we live in where facts are less important than feelings to many.
If he's got enough money to cover the cost of flying Dave to the UK, why doesn't he fly HIMSELF to the states for the debate, and enjoy a few days vacation?
The guy literally said “him and his followers”, like dude have you heard yourself???😂also, femininity???where did that come from and why is that even important even if it was true. Truly beyond my mental capabilities.
So, if I challenge Subboor to a series of 8 debates in my living room over a period of four months, and I promise to cover his food costs, then he has to come to my house? It's only 7500km from Birmingham. Barely an inconvenience.
@@kylemills9192 yes, yes I know, I only just refrained from a long winded essay about how they might not even know who I'm talking about and it's 'just a phrase'. But when I read it, I read it in Ryan's voice, so that's where my mind went.
@@rachman.syahril It doesn't matter. He already chickened out by not accepting the offer I made yesterday in a comment on a RU-vid video. So, I guess he has to shut down his operation since that was the bet I didn't tell him about, but he still has to abide by.
I love how unhinged Dave is on these people 💀 (Guys i support Dave dont take this statement as hostility toward Dave) (Listen even if unhinged isn't the right word you get my point) (How tf did I get resistance from I think the idiots who follow the funny creationist AND people who support Dave. wtf did I do)
We would notice, but creationists are used to selective blindness of inconvinient facts. They don`t want to convice anyone else but their own theistic following.
If they can ignore all the other specimens apart from Lucy and the overwhelming evidence outside the fossil record (DNA evidence retro viruses etc) then they can ignore this 😂
This guy is ethnically jewish right? His atheist jewish brethren told me that the H-man of 🇩🇪 is equal in non-existence with his victims. Why debate people if there was no truth or justice ever? The objective couldn't have been the truth as it never existed.
My comment vanished because you cannot mention the ethnicity of the uploader of this video. I said: his brethren who are atheists told me that the h-man of 🇩🇪 is equal in non-existence with his victims. So my point was, then why debate anyone when there was no truth or justice ever once you become equal in non-existence with everyone you disagreed with? Truth couldn't have been the objective as it never existed. It didn't matter, just wasting your few moments left trying to convince others of a falsehood in order to not have desires spoiled? So the first question Suboor should ask Mr Dave is: do you believe that you have the truth?
@@BoogieBoogsForever 😂😂 they re just retards that can t stand the idea that some people can conduct their lives js fine with no need for a holy prophet 😂
Professor Dave went from Carl Sagan to Mister T in 3 years thanks to these idiots and misinformation. Your friendly science communicator gotta do what he gotta do to smash some science into these fools.
@@zeendaniels5809😂 Strangely enough _subboor isnt here_ ANYWHERE! Nor will he respond, even if [you] comment directly to him on his own video about this.
Good move not agreeing to speak in Birmingham. By hosting the debates there, Ahmad is hoping to guarantee himself a packed audience of religious fundamentalist extremists who will support him and abuse or threaten you.
what are you on about. Being Muslim does NOT make you an extremist and a REAL Muslim would just sit back and watch the debate unfold and watch atheism fail. I only watched this channel because I liked the FLERF debunking content because as we all should know the earth is a GLOBE but after knowing about his right wing ideologies I cannot support what he has to say any more and you do NOT need to be an extremist who attacks people or teaches others how to do it to be against his reasons. I personally want to see him debate Muhammad Hijab who actually went to Oxford too and has a degree in religious studies and knows a lot when it comes to religion and science and where the 2 stand. Many famous Muslims throughout history were respected scientists and/or mathematicians of their time. It's the christians who are the flerfs and I want to see this guy actually prove the falsehood of Islam if that is even scientifically possible at all
@zahidshabir4038 What are you going on about? Without going into the rest of your rant, the basic premise is fallacious. They never said anything about ALL Muslims, just an observation that Birmingham has a particularly extremely fundamentalist population, like the US South is filled with absolutely insane Christians.
Look at them, they've sorted all themselves! Ah, they're so used to arrange events for their god, who never answers their emails and never shows up, they must've accidentally mistake you for an entity of similar habits! What a sweet bunch!
As a Muslim, this was so embarrassing to watch. I'm ashamed and really sorry for his poor behaviour. I don't understand why he talked without knowing enough.
@mickallen899 That's a cultural norm of friendship for them and has no romantic or sexual implications. The west would be well served by normalizing such platonic physical touch without putting stigmatic labels on it.
I am a former Muslim. You, with some ex- Muslims channels, helped me to deconstruct from Islam. You did it with your science based educational videos, others making me doubt and think with their critical analysis of Islam. I am grateful. Please continue to educate. There is so much ignorance where I come from, a lot of information is suppressed on purpose to keep us ignorant, and your knowledge is needed!. As soon as I can, I want to financially support channels like yours. I wish you the best.
@@purpleprinc3 who is Muhammad Ali? a boxer? There is nothing to debate, really. There are many former Muslims like me on youtube posting videos. Watch their content. Free your mind from a toxic religion.
Birmingham has a huge Muslim population. Nothing nefarious about it. As the other commentator said suboot would have the honefield advantage there. It's not at all some crazy plot to hurt professor Dave or anything. These mfs are well know debaters. They've debated atheists/Christians for years.
@@alize_I i really think Dave should. These lot need a nose rubbing for such outrageous claims. God knows how many they are brain deading (not a word) with their hysterics.
@@chollisketteridge7727 i've been aston. Its dodgy late at night as other places in England. But the venue will most certainly not be in the local mosque at 2 AM surely. I would have thought, they could book a venue like a lecture theater at Bradford uni for example....in broad daylight. Bradford, like Birmingham has a large asian population...but certainly they are not all muslims and/or fundamentalists. The debate must be in an academic setting...i think
@@strelock-youssef So did you watch the video and follow the whole conversation? Subboor and his stupid friends behavior is 100% a fraud. They invite Dave but they do everything that is possible to avoid him from attending so they can accuse him from backed off. Cant you see that? Are you blind?
@@strelock-youssef Again: Cant you see that they do everything to prevent him from participating? Why didnt they contact Dave before they announced the debates officially? Maybe to find a date that fits for everybody? Why didnt Subboor first contact him personnaly at all? Why three dates within two weeks? Why Birmingham and not London as promised? Why didnt they answer his mail response? Do you think this is how you invite somebody for a debate in another country? Im travelling a lot professionally and i would never ever accept an invitation under such non-transparent conditions. Aaaaand thats exactely what they want from him. They want to make it impossible for Dave to attemp and then they can say he backed off. Dont you get that?
@@VereidTo be fair, it was perfectly normal for European noble houses to marry off literal children to each other. It wasn't that you were expected to actually go to bed together at that age, more like 'reserving' the individual in order to guarantee political alliances.
Notice how none of his flock even recognize that under the comment section. They just whine about things that they have no solid proof of Dave committing.
Calling Dave a coward is hilarious. He went TO Baylor to debate James tour on his home turf with a biased crowd. You can say a lot about Dave, but you can’t say he’s a coward.
this happens all the time , they make this public offer and then crickets, then they'll say debate conditions could not be agreed , or Dave ran away . Tbh this is probably better than them going through with it , the whole set up , if it were happen will be to ensure they control the content. Laurence Krauss did one of these with the same group and they'd even segregated the sexes in the audience , the British government eventually enforced "new" policy on universities to prevent this imposition on audiences.
I burst out laughing at the feminine allegation from Subhoor. Comedic gold. Dave’s on point when he said he’s projecting. Then Dave stuck the ending with “later loser”. You sir made my day with this video. Never stop mocking those that deserve it.
I always love it when people try to use insults that are wholly inapplicable. It really shows their true colors: they’re just trying to be rude, full stop.
Probably already brought up: the language seems strangely specific about travel from US to UK…. Who pays for you to get home or is there a bonesaw awaiting in the hotel lobby?
As a person from the U.K, I wouldn't want to spend a week and a half in Birmingham either! The infamous "Telly Savalas Looks at Birmingham" Was enough to put me off for life, lol
I went to London for my 18 year old backpacking trip. Long story short, I ended up with my friends being kidnapped in a strip club because the minute we sat down we owed them 500 pounds each....it said so in the microscopic legend in the menus on the table. We told a cop afterwards and he said: "welcome to London."
I'm wagering that this was in Soho and I'll tell you now the strong arm stuff is all bluster for the gullible. Had you walked out of there or said you were calling the police yourself there would have been nothing they could have done.
I appreciate all the types of content you put out and can't help laughing out loud when you responds with these no shits given videos. One of my favorite science communicators/educators, keep up the good work.
As any religious apologist, this Subboor guy is bound by this category code of behaviours, which typically include: lie and pretend to know for a fact what which is not known, project your defects/weaknesses onto others, dodge and weave around difficult questions.
OK, so, maybe the universities websites need updating, but I searched for the debates on the University of Birmingham website, and the Aston University website and I couldn't find the events that Subboor claimed he "booked", so maybe he's just lying about this too.
@@NuiSan-kd6vo I wouldn't go that far. It's more likely that Subboor is just lying about this for clout and saying something like "Well, I tried to debate Dave and he didn't even come!" and also to stop all the comments on his videos talking about this.
mate, sincere suggestion: please keep your level higher with debunking so called academics. these are just low level religion marketers with no intellectual depth. the more you take them serious, the more they get public/known. getting them virally visible harms really. cheers.
This ended up in one of my Athiest playlists so I just watched it for the 2nd time, and I gotta say, I’m ashamed that I didn’t catch the little stunt they pulled the first time. Randomly emailing Dave 2 months later and demanding a fast response, they were totally hoping that Dave would miss the email from some random account and then they could save face by claiming he never got back to them in time. Ooooooo, sneaky sneaky 😂😂😂
You seriously need to consider your security if you plan to go to England and say anything remotely negative about Islam. Seriously, Dave. These people are insane.
@@harvinderrishiraj5901 No there isn't. You can keep trying to justify and rationalise your own bigotry to yourself all you want, but you sound silly. Besides, that's not even my point. The point is that it's perfectly safe to do a debate like this in the UK.
What I just love about Dave is that he doesn't go "OoOoh mister with all due respect if I might interject on some assertions" he straight up calls people whiny cowards (and morons, and dumbasses etc)
@@wut_the_fug sure, these dogmatically-inclined individuals are unlikely to change. i'm sure there are some on the fence though that are in there audience. i was also referring to dave's content in general beyond this particular drama, such as with flat earthers or Tour.
To be fair to them, Birmingham is good to reach from London, it won't be that much of an inconvenience. I just don't know how they'd expect you to come for one and half week. That's insane.
Yea, for a one day event. Still, 2 1/2 hours travel time one way, so with faffing, thats at least 6 hours travel faff (return) before even started the day.
Well it's because suboor doesn't actually care about the arguments veracity. You have to understand winning a debate does not mean you're right. Actually a lot of winning debates is just about showmanship, audience reaction etc. you can't have those advantages online.
it is actually so cringe watching the clips of subboor talking like that. it's like he is literally still a 5th grader huffing and puffing in front of his little group of friends after getting humiliated by the school bully.. "my dad is going to beat up his dad!, he only got me because I wasn't looking!, i just let him push me in the locker because i wanted to see if i could fit in it or not!" ... it's a stark reminder how deeply pathologized a human mind can become, how truly terrifying self deception can be
The most annoying part about how they control the comment sections is that it's just not at all transparent. Nobody really seems to have any idea what things trigger which responses. I get that they have to protect themselves from liabilities, and they want to have a certain level of behavior so that their product continues to grow in value. That's fine.
@@ottomaddoxx5360These madness has started from covid. I was shadow banned for long time for saying absolute basic things as replies. Social media doesn't have liabilities as of common print and digital media. But there are many law firm which is combating so called Islamophobia and in the process companies like youtube are censoring things they deem as such. So it's mostly result of activism and stupidity of decesion makers to give into the pressure. Now everything is getting censored.
Man, Dave... When i go check his videos on this debate stuff, all his mentions and viewers saying how you 'chicken out of the debate' and whatnot and whatever they wanna say to ridicule or discredit you. I even get a bit triggered and mad willing to go into defense mode lmao. I can't imagine how it must be for you and how you keep this up 😂😂
Man I wish Dave would go after the nitwits touting the Searl Effect Generator. I messaged him on FB about it but I'm sure his plate is already full. Seems like his popularity has grown a lot in the last few years.
I found it funny how a lot of Muslim apologists only debate with random people on the Street instead of someone who knows what he's talking about like a professor
literally suboor and all of most of his team debated academics multiple times if you only made a 1 minute research you woulnd stay in your little bubble
You should crowdfund to go over for the first debate, then send them an email saying you'll be there on 3 Oct for the scheduled debate, as per the email you received.
Professor Dave (or "Dave" as Globebusters calls him) is absolutely right about the lack of need for multiple debates. They won't have anything valid to argue. It will immediately devolve into a loud and angry tirade of science denial. He has far more patience than I do.
@@cuttru8041 not a very exclusive explanation for name calling. On the other hand, lying covering up the trueth and trying to project the blame onto someone else makes one very deserving of derission and name calling.
@@Kim_Lund didn't say it was an explanation but rather an indicator e.g. most negative feedback/comments on Dave's videos get responded to with childish name calling by Dave. Also, how can you assess what the truth is by simply getting one side and the narrative presented here?
@@cuttru8041 Not saying you are wrong it's just a weak marker that can be attributed to so many different things. Not to mind read or anything but it feels like calling unserious interlocutors by unflattering names feels like his style for dealing with them. Maybe not the best way but look at how he riled up James Tour with the combination of facts and sort of true unflattering characterisations without using ad hominem as the reason to dismiss their arguments. Sorry for the long text, English isn't my first language.
AAAAHHH reminds me of the cable company from South Park: “Ok we can have a technician out to your house anytime between 6am and 3pm all of November?” 😂😂
