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WHERE! is the 221cc sport? HERE it is!! ;)
0:00 intro
0:15 cheers
0:30 new sport 221?
0:52 sport221 recipe
1:33 head spacer mounting
2:39 power out of the box
3:31 fine tuning power
4:20 3 healthy engine basics
4:35 summary sport 221
5:02 sport VS mhr
6:30 cyl timings
6:46 sport210 vs polini210
7:06 TESTride sport 221
8:01 PORTING pics
11:17 oilsucker engine cases
13:19 sport210 pics
NOTE: 18nm torque is what malossi states. 25 as i mention it in the video is standard 8.8 m8 max torque. my bad. Sorry!
optional use grandsport STEEL rings:
www.grand-sport.de/Kolbenring...
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Комментарии : 85

@jurybrucceri2256 3 года назад

Hi Dude!Excellent tutorial, great job man! What are the main differences between Polini 210 and Malossi? Which is the best for you? Thanks ad cheers!

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

polini has the weak asso piston, which is known for cracking as a connection pin eye to skirt is missing on one side. Beside that, its still the technical 80ies port layout (...) so easy answer: malossi sport Not only cause of non cracking piston, also new 2014 design. Checkout my other guides about it

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

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@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

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@andreashjellestad2595 3 года назад

@@FreakMoPed8 Hi mista, i have a polini 221 and just ordered a grand sport piston. Is there anything to gain? I have 1,5mm spacer on top. Is it better to have spacer at the bottom? Thanks

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

Gs piston is perfect. Head gasket also 👍

@lisamcevoy6221 3 года назад

Thank you, love these tutorials, I’ve learned so much.

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

u are very welcome 😃🍻

@marcustalman2756 3 года назад

Dam good advice 👍 cheers legend

@M.V.1 3 года назад

Malossi, grande👍🏻 Bel lavoro. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇮🇹🖐️

@mendozaram 3 года назад

Hello mr freak. Great videos as always. Thx for share. Man, i have a Question for You, which values do You use in GSF Dyno? Cd Value, Friction Coef and frontal area? Thx in advance

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

have you checked my fb page? send me a message there.

@marco6028 3 года назад

You are the man! What's the best 60mm crankshaft for the 221 sport with rotary valve? I don't want to cut or weld the crank to adjust the timings/balancing! Tuning the intake valve is ok I guess.. Cheers!

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

Thx! mazzu polini or sip with expensive conros are good

@ericdeplanchoury5835 2 года назад

Hi Mr Freak, I measured the engine diagrams (221) that I will mount, here: 173/118/ 28, intake: 82/191, is it consistent? the setup: Malossi V one engine case, Malossi 210 cylinder, Mazzuchelli (K2d) crankshaft long stroke (60), head gasket 2 mm, SI carb 26, exhaust Pipedesing Sbox III plus. Thanks. Tschüss

@FreakMoPed8 2 года назад

yes Sounds reasonable. rotary valve tolerance is 0,05mm? try polinibox someday it Performance better than sbox and is as well not so loud

@syncrovibes 2 года назад

Hey dude, sorry for bothering again but I the more I am watching your videos, the more questions are coming into my mind... It's great thing isn't it :P --- 1) from my measurements, with 60mm stroke, the piston at the BDC sits 1mm lower than the exhaust port! Could this be a problem? should lower the port? 2) with these changes in timings, do you recommend a different gear ratio? Malossi manual suggests a 24/63 for the 210 in 57 stroke (px200 original is 23/65) but... do you think shorter is better?

@FreakMoPed8 2 года назад

1) no 2) 65/23 is fun max 65/24 if fine tuned and a lot of power

@Fumacenta2tempos 3 года назад

Man, do you sell this epoxy to use on the crackcase? Or would say the name, the brand? Tks a lot

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

I use uhu endfest or weicon titanium. Ensure to heat up the cast that it sweats out all the oil

@user-vk5rs5qi6l 5 месяцев назад

Mr Freak, I’m building my 79 p200 engine per your recommendations in this video (malossi 221). I will take the time to fine tune. I rebuilt my Cush drive with DRT springs, but still have the stock helical gears. Do you recommend going to strait cut gears with a 221 sport? Or is it overkill? Thanks for the best Vespa tunning tips!

@FreakMoPed8 5 месяцев назад

no it works fine

@syncrovibes 2 года назад

It would be interesting to have more details on how to make the exhaust port larger... (same shape, top and bottom equal) do you just widen the sides or do you also check if the piston at the BDC is at the same level ? I heard that someone lowers the port under that level of ca. 1 mm more... do not understand why....

@FreakMoPed8 2 года назад

Only to be modified from height Transfer ports upwards ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lnn7XxHOBnI.html

@FreakMoPed8 2 года назад

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@DRIFTBAGIGI 3 года назад

For fast touring trip, do you prefer Malossi in long stroke or in standard c57 stroke? For Long stroke 221, what gear ratio do you suggest?

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

it really doesnt matter. if original 57 is fine, stick to it. no need for longstroke, its quite overrated. I like 65/23 for these tunings

@nikemann79 3 года назад

Hi, mit was für einem Durchmesser bohrst du den Spacer auf, damit die Zentrierbuchsen passen? Muss das auf den 1/10 mm genau passen?

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

das sie exakt passen, das geht schon. ständerbohrmaschine halt.

@syncrovibes 2 года назад

Thanks for the video Mr Freak! So basically If I want to upgrade my Malossi SPORT from 57 (210) to 60 (221), I have just to put the 60 crankshaft and a 2 mm base under the head? I've not understood why 2 mm and not 60-57=3mm ... Moreover, don't you think that 1,5 + 1,5 (top and bottom of cylinder) would be better for maintaining the port position as designed by malossi? big thanks!

@FreakMoPed8 2 года назад

na. I dont. 😉

@FreakMoPed8 2 года назад

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@azanutta 2 года назад

what about a 62mm (228cc)?? do you think it is still good with the malossi SOPRT? everybody are doing it with the MHR....

@FreakMoPed8 2 года назад

not worth the money. A bit more cc is completelly overrated, its other factors. Better go for m244 then instead of extra longstroke. there is only sport or m244, dont see any need for mhr.

@charcoalacab7065 2 года назад

to my knowledge when you take the PORTMAP with the paper, you actually measuring the length of the ARC. However the 63% has to be referred to the CHORD of that arc. If you are going to make it 43,5mm - it is ca. 59% (chord is 40,6mm); for having the 63% you have to enlarge the port to ca. 47mm (chord would be 43,5mm then) [see Gordon Jennings - Tuning Handbook]

@FreakMoPed8 2 года назад

exactly 👍

@charcoalacab7065 2 года назад

@@FreakMoPed8 👍🏽 so just for the records the original malossi (at least mine) port is 55% [arc = 40mm] to have the 65% [arc = 48,5mm] you have to go more than the MHR that has 64% [arc = 48mm], enlarging 4,25mm per side. 🤯

@FreakMoPed8 2 года назад

yes, exactly. on rotary go for 63 and just widen it till top edge transfers channels, in a trapezoid or butterfly shape

@paansukarjo90 3 года назад

hi.. how about the transfer port layout/flow shape of both of the cylinder? do they have the same shape or they have totally a different layout?

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

Yes

@ericdeplanchoury5835 2 года назад

Hi Mr Freak, Good job! A px 200 Malossi 221 engine is planned and I need a crankshaft… a Mazzuchelli long stroke has a long timing (138° or 140° ) it is not too much for use with carburettor SI 24 or 26? Tschüss

@FreakMoPed8 2 года назад

Mazzu is fine. Focus on 0,05mm needed tolerance

@ericdeplanchoury5835 2 года назад

@@FreakMoPed8 0.05 is for intake. Precisely I also wanted to ask you for the Malossi casings, have known other people who had problems of tolerance greater than 0.1 mm. Are these casings a good choice? or are the Pinasco casings better? Danke

@ericdeplanchoury5835 2 года назад

0.05 is for intake. Precisely I also wanted to ask you for the Malossi casings, have known other people who had problems of tolerance greater than 0.1 mm. Are these casings a good choice? or are the Pinasco casings better? Danke

@FreakMoPed8 2 года назад

Malossi are fine. only i had the rv tolerance issue, didnt read any other info about it.

@ericdeplanchoury5835 2 года назад

@@FreakMoPed8 Ok,Thanks for the reply.

@josemanuel4308 Год назад

Good job!! Malossi recommends a 0.8mm squish, why did you leave more squish? Thank you!!

@FreakMoPed8 Год назад

1.4mm I recommend so for longstroke head gasket a 2mm instead of just 1.5mm

@josemanuel4308 Год назад

@@FreakMoPed8 What diameter gasket did you mount in the crankcase?

@FreakMoPed8 Год назад

standard for 210cc

@sgo7806 5 месяцев назад

Even for a new 210 malossi from 2023 you would do 2.0 instead of 1.5 at the head? I used 1.5 in my new built 2 weeks ago and I am in fear now. Btw your videos are great. Greetings from Bavaria.

@jadubra Год назад

Hello, to see if you can advise. I am mounting the Malossi Sport 210cc Kit (2022) CODE: 3118591, with the malossi CARBURETTOR KIT PHBH 30 BD REED CRANKCASE FOR VESPA PX E 2T 200 CC CODE: 1615550 and Polini Box exhaust. What model of crankshaft do you recommend for this configuration? Many Thanks

@FreakMoPed8 Год назад

mazzu or sip

@vlatko2006 3 года назад

Longstroke head from mmw or mrp is not a better solution?

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

not really needed no. but you can of course, so you dont need a head gasket

@fabiotiburzi 3 года назад

Btw, where is the bfa 307?

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

in 2 green boxes 😄😉 wanted to finish a vmc177 first and needed the 25mm wider side lid on hand. Its finished now, so bfa ia next

@fabiotiburzi 3 года назад

@@FreakMoPed8 😋 can't wait

@nadeempasha5002 3 года назад

Lml full Hy speed bore kit 5 pot clech plees give me this product

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

@rclavier 3 года назад

hi Schwarzy !!

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

Was time for a change 😉

@timoschreiber9541 3 года назад

25nm für der Kopf?

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

23,7 osä, 25 einfachee zu merken, o genau ist eh kein gümstiger drehmomentschlüssel

@timoschreiber9541 3 года назад

In der Anleitung steht 18

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

welche anleitung? 8,8er M8 = 22-25nm, 8,8er M7 = 15-17nm

@timoschreiber9541 3 года назад

@@FreakMoPed8 in der Monatageanleitung von Malossi

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

Da schau. Danke fuer Hinweis, fueg ich in den text ein!

@vespaveloce1924 3 года назад

At 3:28 is this with an Si24?

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

yes, with si24, only the 26hp is with 30mm phbh (but si24 and phbh30 do perform the same on rotary valve anyways)

@stuarttiainen5433 Месяц назад

What jetting do you normally run with 221sport and si24?

@aypain2846 3 года назад

Block 221 can use crank standat 57 sir..any problem use crank standart 57

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

Yes of course, the question is if it fita the cylinder, if its a 221cc for instance. Check timings in detail!

@aypain2846 3 года назад

@@FreakMoPed8 crank 60 is so good or not to used 221..many member said 221 use 60 crank is powerfull

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

It depends on the cylinder. A 221 only works with 60mm stroke. A 210 with 57 or 60. In general, a 60mm stroke is NOT needed. 57 & 60mm with same engine data, have the same power on road. Just different power band. People just think, the more cc the better, but there are many kore factors defining the power of a two stroke engine

@aypain2846 3 года назад

@@FreakMoPed8 good information sir..sir double ring piston good or one ring piston..

@FreakMoPed8 3 года назад

sport is only 2ring, i do prefer 2 ring in general. dont see the need of just 1 ring

@ericdeplanchoury5835 2 года назад

@FreakMoPed8 2 года назад

yes Sounds reasonable. rotary valve tolerance is 0,05mm? try polinibox someday it Performance better than sbox and is as well not so loud

@ericdeplanchoury5835 2 года назад

@@FreakMoPed8 Thank you ‘Le Duc’ ; … (in the French version of the movie) Yes I saw that the Polini pot is better, but I bought the Sbox a while ago… I’ll try the Polini later. The rotary valve is ok, less than 0.1 but more than 0.05… Is it possible to enlarge to the back, the rotary valve up to 200° as you recommended? Danke

@FreakMoPed8 2 года назад

yes, then its possible to open zo thr back 👍 try it one day. just to have the comparison. ensure to use a 20mm version. u might be surprised 😀 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m6AEfGVoslg.html

@ericdeplanchoury5835 2 года назад

@@FreakMoPed8 Hi Okay, thanks for the advice 😉 I have another question: Increasing the exhaust port to 63-65% for this setup is essential? Tschüss