Veteran Patton - 500km Review 

What a great review! Awesome that you guys do those videos!

I enjoy your videos but why do you use a thumbnail that says "Disappointed..."? Your review didn't seem disappointed at all, just very constructive.

Thank you both so much for the amazing videos! I have a standing pre order (first wheel!) for batch 1 of the patton , and your channel was a huge part in picking a wheel. The videos you guys , Hsiang , and Wrong Way make are some of the best and most informative I've seen.👍

Thank you, you two! Now waiting patiently (or impatiently) for my 62lbs preorder. No stairs anywhere I ride. 👏

The pair of you are awesome! Keep up the great videos!

Love the videos guys, thanks for the review, you guys make a perfeck job to the Pev Community, don´t stop. your channel will be big 1000%, you won a new subscriber and follower for all new videos

This is a great review because you two provide the point of view of two different sized riders. This is very important because not all riders are over 160 lbs.

That was an awesome and comprehensive review! Thanks for sharing!!

first time watching your videos, and i especially appreciate having opinions from two different perspectives - a lighter and a heavier rider - in one video. really makes it easier for people to form their own opinions about wheels and which one is suitable for their needs. thanks

Great review! I love that there’s a male and female perspective on the product.. straightforward details and ones we all wanted to know. keep them coming guys 👌🤙✨

Thanks for the in depth review. I ordered mine and I'm still definitely looking forward to it. It'll will be my first wheel so no comparisons here 😂

You too are a great combo for this. Keep it up

Amazing review, glad I finally found the channel! Albert I had seen your videos a while ago, I had appreciated your insights back then, I had searched EUC Albert a couple of times on RU-vid to no avail! Will watch the content from now on! It's quality stuff! Could you a review on the upcoming batch of S18's at eevee's!? It would be worthwhile as an update to the model I feel, besides it has turned out to be sort of the only one in it's class..

Great video! Love the format!

2cells1pack good review i love the 2 opinions at once and different weight perspective i cant wait for the next one... you won a subs👌🏻

Woah that was a gnarly crash at 5:50. Hope you were okay. Thanks for the review video!

Great Video 👍🏼 Thanks for the information!

Very simple and concise. No crazy background music. Straight to the point and enjoyable all the way through. Minor sound issues, but very informative. I have a Sherman-s and I keep eyeballing this wheel. How does the suspension compare to the S?

Great video Chamacos!!! thisis very informative and you guys did great. Ordered mine through Eevee wheels. Unable to find walkthrough with explanation on how to adjust the Fastace compression dampening and screen settings. Any upcoming vids regarding this?

Good review 👍

Great review, thank you! I do wish there were more comparison with the T4 since it's the only other wheel in this category.

This is a helpful video despite the audio issues. Thank you! The “disappointed” label is very misleading though.

Great review as usual👍🏻. I receive mine on Monday. I shared the previous comments : an efficient review covering all the main questions we could have with the advantage of 2 point of view. Only « negative » point is the thumbnail not reflecting your global appreciation of the wheel. But on a “marketing” point of view : well done, before watching the review I really thought you discovered something terrible during your tests 😜😉

Great review!

Well, I bought one. I'm coming from 3yrs on an Inmotion V8F. As I mentioned earlier I am a heavy rider so I ordered the 66# springs and since I only ride urban streets I got the street tire. Thanks for your input.

Love your videos guys

Great video! Would you do an update video after you've tuned the rebound/compression of the shocks to try and make it not bottom out?

Awesome videos. Thanks ! I’m planning on getting the 66lb from Eevees (as a successor to my S18). Do you recommend purchasing the Leaperkim pads or buy grizzla’s? Thanks in advance for your response.

Great review, I really enjoyed it, subbed. Christina, what size helmet are you wearing in the video, S or M? I'm also around 100 pounds and with a relatively small head, it is really reassuring to see that you can manage the wheel so well!

Good video guys! Do more!! Do the KS S22Pro please!

Great review and format! Regarding the suspension, the consensus of reviews seems to be to go with the 66lb spring, even for lighter riders if riding heavy bumps/jumps. Bottoming out only after longer sets of stairs, however, sounds to me like classic suspension “packing”, where the rebound damping is set too slow to allow the shock to return to its starting position between successive hits, and therefore the wheel ends up deeper and deeper in its travel with each stair hit and eventually bottoming out. Increasing compression damping can also reduce this effect, but at a tradeoff of comfort. Ideally, spring rate selection should be determined by static sag. The geared up rider at a standstill should be compressing 15-25% of the total shock travel. Comfort and bottom-out resistance are then tuned with damping settings. As a 170lb rider on the fence between 62lb and 66lb spring rates, I’m curious if a lighter rider (such as 100lbs) still gets any meaningful static sag at all with the 66lb spring? With too little sag, suspension performance and handling can also suffer. Thanks!

I think my pre-order will be at least another 6 weeks. Can’t wait

Thank you for the video! I have the patton and I enjoy it so much but I get loud alarms when I brake hard on full battery, do you know why? And do I need to be concerned about braking cut out? Thank you

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i like this review than others. :) keep it up. The Patton has no Demand in my country.. everyone is waiting on Extreme :)

First ! Thanks for this excellent review

with the Sherman-S having 1cm more travel would the 62lb be ok with a 190lb rider if not doing big drops? great reviews btw

Great review btw! I cannot believe that they fixed such minor problems compared to the other huge problems that exist on the pre-production wheel..a small stamp and half centimeter of rubber...wow.why didn't they fix the charge port locations? Better spiked pedals? What were they thinking?

Great review! Do you think they'll come out with a heavier weight shock I'm a heavier rider also at around 265lb and don't want to beat up or destroy the suspension.

Very nice constructive criticisms and I plan on getting the Patton myself but 3rd batch. By then, I hope LK make the front handle higher, make the toe piece wider, have a better shape of the front bumper for better adjustability to workaround that screw head, and maybe have better headlights. And I’m not going to hold my breath but maybe they can improve on the Patton. But if they don’t, it probably won’t matter since I’m not into doing long stairs or big jumps. But looks like the 66lb suspension is the way to go, so thx for the review!

Great review. Where are those awesome trails?

Wow, the headline “ disappointed” seems out of context. We are all confused by this. Christine , we have to love your game attitude on going for it. Wow!

I thinking about picking up a 62lb version of the Patton. I weigh roughly 150 with gear on. You think that'll be too soft and cause bottoming out? I do mostly street riding and rarely offroad of do stairs.

Is this the best euc with around 16 inch wheel size with suspension for all around use (commuting + light off road)? If not, which similar size wheels are better for general purpose?

If you'd decide to do a later review, it would be nice to see how durable the parts are. How complicsted it is to change a tire, if it can hold up in pouring rain etc.

This being the wet coast I sure wish someone would test wheels in the rain over at least 3 months, remember these are expensive.

Can you hear the beeps with the helmet on? Or are they also very quiet like inmotion wheels

I believe that they suggest a lower coil weight for the suspension because it allows the user to have a very soft suspension for paved roads and commuting, but they can still adjust the compression dampening to make it not bottom out on the trail. Getting a heavier weight won't allow you to get as soft as it could be.

This was awesome. Please do the same for the s22 pro

Would you ever do a video comparing braking, speed and all that to the different v12’s?

Informative video! Why does the thumbnail say "disappointed..." With a thumbs down though?

Nice job.

Bonjour, Deux petites questions : Avez vous aussi touchè le fond avec le 66lbs , Christine a t'elle touché ? Pour 80% de off road , devrais je me tourner au final pour un S22 pro ? Je pese 76kg Goob job for this test 😊

Hi I’m a 130 pound man and I pre ordered the 58 pound suspension because it recommends it’s for [

Dang! "Skinny" is gorgeous!!! She needs to know this if she doesn't already.

Nice bud kristine

Did you measure the S22 and Patton? Reason I ask is the S22 is the widest wheel i've ever ridden or owned its 2.5" wider than a master and T4...

it hurts my calves, why is the edge so sharp?? it needs a handle that runs down the middle, hard to go shopping with

I'm shocked the highest weighted spring they have isn't even good for a light weight person. Did LeaperKim seriously not test the wheel at all in any real world conditions? Appreciate the review!

i JUST PURCHASED A EX30 AND i AM A BIG (TALL AND HEAVY 270LBS @ 6'4) How much torque'er would you say this wheel is than the ex30? I also have s22 for the purpose that I would use this wheel for but, I do not like the small clearance that leaperkim did with this wheel, it's a shame as it seems like everyone is raving about the performance of this wheel. I simply could not buy it because of the suspension Leaper uses (cannot change it to something else) and the clearance on this wheel is so low... what do you guys think about this wheel for bigger guys like myself? I am 6'4" and 270 lbs without gear I I do jump and love trails!!!!! have you thought about testing the torque climbing vs ex30 or extreme maybe when it comes out, I know it is a bit unfair since this is a 16 inch wheel and everyone that researches knows smaller wheels make the same motor feel more torquey(sp) so that is one thing ppl need to remember. also, I think begode will make a new 16' wheel (extreme bull maybe) to face off vs this wheel LEAPERKIM put out) it does seem like begode /extreme bull want that performance crown. I would love to hear what you think as I really enjoy a bigger guy closer to my size riding and reviewing wheels (I am still waiting for my ex30 to arrive from china (batch 3) it will be here june Yay) Thanks in advance for your opinions and I look forward to what you think on a smaller wheel like this at speed of 70kmph or here in the USA 42 mph... how does it feel at speed ? I cant wait for my ex30 as I think that wheel will be great for bigger guys. Thank you and you 2 have a GREAT SHOW

Très bien,merci!

Bottoming out at a rider weight of

Aqui no Brasil são 18:30 mas gostaria de comprar esse capacete feminino pra minha esposa depois vcs me diz qual a marca ok obrigado.

So she (weighing < 100 lbs) bottoms out on the 62 lb shocks. The question i have is, Does He (240 lbs) ever bottom out on the 66 lb Shocks?

Another good vid. Get a microphone for your wife is my only criticism.

i'm 130lbs, would the 66lb be too stiff?

Ding dong. Ding dong 😂

My KS16S is still only sweeet 18Kg :D

Gooood informative content. Baaaad clickbaity screen.

Great video... but please fix Skinny's audio!!

Maybe throw up some on screen subtitles for those audio cut-outs?

5:50 Christine needs to stay away from stairs when she ride xD

So, you're 240lbs and still got 50+ miles? What riding mode? Normal or high speed mode? How does the 66lb shock handle your size and weight on jumps, trails, curbs, stairs? Bottom out often? How cushy of a ride is it? You mentioned it's easier to bottom out for heavier riders, but HOW much easier? Her riding the 66lb shock and it feeling pretty good on trails tells me I will need a heavier spring/beefier suspension like the Sherman S to not bottom out on around town, mtb trails, stairs, and occasional jumps that are 5-6ft drops, max. I'm 210/225lbs with gear @ 6'1, and think the Patton just doesn't have the suspension I NEED for my weight, especially for offroad and jumps. Although being a heavier rider, and having a small, zippy, lighter, torquier wheel will feel way cooler. The patton seems to have plenty of overhead and torque that taller and heavier riders can leverage the wheel hard and not worry about cut out. That is a bonus for me. And considering it's about the same speed as a sherman s (although not as stable), I can see this becoming my go to wheel for almost everything. But perhaps only on later versions with updates to beefier suspension with more travel. How does it compare to feel of Sherman S? Sherman I'm guessing feels more plush, but much more plush compared to Patton? Or like a 10% difference vs a 90% difference in ride cushiness? I'll have to test ride em for a day to get a really good estimate, but curious your experience between the two, especially for heavier riders. GREAT review. So thorough and straight to the point with objective data and and useful subjective experience too.

FYI sound issues around 9:47 and later on around 11:28

omg. the trolley handle is literally like the S22 but positioned at the back meaning it sucks as well!

S22 with open sliders system cant compare to this. Yes S22 jumping higher, harder, but sliders rollers broke every few hunderds of kms...

How tall is the lady...looks wide

Great review. I'm sure all the other reviewers are jealous of your self-balancing crash test dummy.

your cover image really scared me😅

Hi :)

8/10 from both of you yet disappointed? very mixed message here

There must be a simple way to fix this suspension...

你们在中国吗？😂 Are those things allowed there?

Dont like the thumbnail.

How dare you say the Patton looks cute, I'm so offended!!

Thumbnail doesn’t match the the video results.

8/10 is disappointing? Too bad about the charge ports and bottoming out, but unless you're Mike Leahy, seems like à wheel for everyone. Disappointing doesn't mean that to me. I did click on the video faster because of it, but I still don't like misleading 👎

Stop using free spin as a value. Instant incredibility. Otherwise detailed review.

Can we not throw around PTSD like it’s a joke? You seriously undermined people with legit ptsd by saying you got it from a trolley handle. I know it was meant to sort of be a joke, but it wasn’t very tasteful, and certainly wasn’t delivered in a comedic enough way to drive home a laugh.

Why are you going 75 km/h??? Completely illegal speed for an ebike...you must have a license plate and is registered...

it junk

Click bait. They loved the Patton. Thumbs down 👎 for this video

They could have left the pads they used on Sherman just so we could use the brake pad

Eucs have gotten faster but they've also gotten far too heavy.. quality is horrible, suspension is worthless... I trust my Street motorcycle at speeds over 100 mph but I can't trust EUCs at 40...lame