The person who runs that instagram account is about to feel SO betrayed when they find out that Jarvis is, in fact, not a fan of racist digital-rapper-creating companies
“We aren’t racist bro. We found someone Asian who SOUNDS like a stereotypical black guy, so he’s DEFFO black. We had a black lady supervise.” Absolute chaos
@@SimonVanliew26 They're writing from the perspective of a person they are clearly highlighting for their foolishness, see the quotation marks indicating this? Using "deffo" here is an effective way to convey the character they are portraying.
can't describe how viscerally uncomfortable that police brutality post makes me. the image with him staring into the camera as he's being beaten. "police brutality 😡" and the use of black vernacular in the post description. using prison time as a marketing gimmick. all while shit like this happens to black people (including real rappers!) irl all the time. it's so blatantly fucking racist i can't believe they went through with it
As a white woman I want to apologize for this racist behaviour, even though I know it‘s not my fault. It just makes me so sad to see how ignorant some people are towards litteral violence. 😔
Miku did not walk so these freakish nightmares could run. These “ai” are just fronts for people to be racist and escape accountability truly sickening.
i genuinely think that the reason Miku, and vocaloid, in general are so different from this is the fact that its an open software for all to use and their songs are often a community effort built around passion. This virtual rapper and whatever else is a creation out of pure greed trying to capitalize on cultural icons to draw in a younger audience (be it the gross virtual blackface/minstrel show or the chilling usage of branding and capitalistic ''look how rich i am'' culture symbols)
@@pellemckruth4070 not to mention miku feels like it's about the music but this rapper dude's music is soulless and just wants to be a rapper for the image something a lot of artists would turn their noses up at
@@pellemckruth4070 that's exactly it! I was trying to put my finger on it this whole time and you said it perfectly. These weird western knock-off vocaloids are what happens when lazy people with no passion create something in hopes of becoming viral on TikTok to make money doing minimal work. At least Vocaloid is something fans can openly engage with, meanwhile FN Meka was being called "AI" driven with no explanation of what aspects were even supposed to be AI? Anyway I hope the creative team behind this never find work again.
@@veginito9927 especially since almost all of the TikToks we're about him "flexing" instead of actually promoting any kind of music. This whole thing is so bizarre and uncomfortable. What a time to be alive lol.
I feel like "minstrel" is a perfect comparison here, even if they aren't making an active attempt at mocking black people. Getting a bunch of non-black people together to make music with slurs in it, and then hiding behind a very light-skinned black avatar feels about as close as you could get to digital blackface. Like, the fact that they had the audacity to make their CGI rapper a victim of police brutality might be the single most 2022 thing I've heard about all year. Gotta love how these companies will use any major issue as a means to promote their brand, even if their promotion is tasteless.
How could this concept not be an active attempt to deride black people? All of those actions are very active. None of this is passive in the least. How asinine to believe that it could not be.
@@pearlngozi2818 It was fucking deplorable behavior from them. I only added the condition because I didn't want random comments from people telling me I wasn't giving them a fair chance after only reading the first two sentences. I agree that it was definitely a combo of stupidity, greed, and casual racism. Edit - sorry I thought that you had responded to a different comment on an older video, so I rewrote my reply to actually reference the correct comment
The disgusting implication that the character somehow deserved to be treated like that and so has now "learned better" and changed his ways is maddening. The utter audacity of his creator to put words like that into his mouth!
This is sick who okay’d this? Everyone thinks black culture is a costume and something to emulate to seem “cooler”. Virtual blackface is CRAZY. It’s so sad.
So now it's wrong for anyone to make a digital black person if they aren't black? Lol I agree with most of other things but not that, that's just stupid, if that's what we mean.
@@OArchivesX Ahh, that's true. I think it's personally ok to play a black person but I felt a little like this avatar is being used to mock the race portrayed instead of acting like a normal person?
@@GentleMannOfHats i don't feel that mocked though i feel parodied. i actually think a fair chunk of the rappers i hear may potentially be insane people
@@OArchivesXIf they’re also trying to give their digital black person an experience with police brutality, yes! OP didn’t say nobody can make a digital black person. You’re twisting their words and replying to something nobody’s ever said. Gorillaz, two white guys, made a digital black person, and nobody cares! Because the fact that he’s black has zero relevance to their music, and his creators don’t try to “act black.” FN Mecca is saying the n-word and has apparently been a victim of racism and police brutality. “Blackface” isn’t just putting on a “black face.” They’re attempting to portray an experience they’ve never lived, and making money off of it. That’s what people are mad about, and that’s what makes it “digital black-face”
I mean on top of everything else, why is a police officer acting as a prison guard? Why would a prison guard be trying to get him to snitch? That’s the DA’s job. It’s weird that they are appropriating police violence and prison sentences and are also so removed from the reality that they can’t even get their fictional depiction right.
What I want to know is who was (supposedly) even taking that photo and uploading it? No prison would ever let someone photograph it so the person being brutalized can just casually post it on their instagram.
@@Pipkiablo well no I don’t think that’s the point. Obviously it’s unrealistic it’d be like a real black rapper doing a photo shoot. But it’s that the image itself isn’t an example of what real police brutality is-that they’re profiting off of a stereotype they don’t even know enough about to portray. It’s not just that “they wouldn’t let them take pictures in prison”
First of all they use cops and detectives for that job literally all of the time.... it's not The District Attorney job...what are you talking about. I've been to prison Im 33 and a woman I've been out 10 years I know how it goes. Furthermore you do know crimes go on while in jail or prison that a guard would want you tell about......what are you talking please hush 😂😂😂😂🗣🗣🗣 and out of the the things to be offended about that's what bothered you?? 😂😂😂🗣🗣 And didn't you already write this same message on another video...you clearly you don't have a clue about what goes on inside.
Black people profit off is stereo types all the time, a bunch of black people on vine made their whole careers off of black stereotypes like what are you on about?
But what's up with the label? Are they so stupid that they didn't even check who they signed or are they so ignorant that they didn't see any problem with the content before the outrage lol
@@whereverimayroar Yes. They see a rise in popularity and thus a chance to make big money. To be fair though, when you're in a business where if you don't snatch talent you can miss out like crazy, it's understandable. At least they dropped his ass.
There’s also the issue that there are now “virtual influencers” who are either POC or racially ambiguous and take jobs from actual models. I don’t know who creates but I heard about it on the Double Cleanse podcast and it sounded really surreal. Not to mention the uncanny valley feeling is huge with those influencers.
I only knew of two: Shudu Gram and Lil Miquela. In any case, the impact they have on career availability is negligible to say the least. They might amass bigger followings than some real models, but overall, modeling agencies are absolutely *not* passing up real people in favor of these digital creations. Most of the positions they fill were created specifically for them, so there was never a chance of it having been filled by an actual model in the first place. That being said, the entire premise of POC virtual models being created by white people and used for their profit is still incredibly weird and gross.
What gets me is that they don't realize what they are doing is wrong. Hard to feel sorry when they're literally using the "I have a black friend" argument.
@@dest_n not old. sounded like a 17 year old edgy white kid that watched too much right-wing youtube and spent too much time on the redpill subreddit lol
I think it's hilarious in a dark, cosmic sense that the first thing we do when we have access to a new technology is to immediately make it as racist as humanly possible.
I'm pretty sure what they mean is the accent, but most black "accents" are actually just southern dialect, unless they're referring to an African accent, which the guy just doesn't have lol
jarvis, you always tell us we’re premium and it warms our hearts. but has anyone told you lately that YOU’RE premium? thanks for keeping us updated on the crazy happenings in the world bud
@@jiji956 there was a whole team behind the scenes writing and creating everything, so it wasn't actually a person talking about their real experiences. Miquela was a virtual influencer which made her team money by "modelling" clothes and brand deals, so it was extra scummy that they tried to "humanize" her like that.
dude the "asian with a black voice" thing lowkey gave me Vietnam flashbacks to when my brother's friends asked me if i was adopted because I "sounded white" and they knew my brother was black
If there really was a black woman behind this (which is doubtful because what black person thinks this is a good idea) then why wasn't she given any credit and why was that never stated from the beginning? A virtual influencer created by a black woman that amassed 10 million followers on TikTok would be a huge achievement and one that she should be given credit for - again, if this was actually the case. If I turn out to be right, then it's another instance of racism from Anthony Martini, Chris Le, and Brandon Le (who aren't black) and an instance of misogynoir as they try to blame this on a black woman that doesn't exist but was solely created to lessen the damage for them and to take the fall.
You say that like all "black people" are part of this agenda and know this would be wrong and stuff. Race is just what we people use to separate people into sections. That black lady isnt a black lady Shes a LADY. A human. Who happens to be black! The motive was money. That's why she did it. That's my take on it. We cant assume this woman wasn't ok with it because she had more melanin. Shes a human. Who in the end falls towards greed
"FN Meka was made by a black woman" Ok where the fuck was she in all the promo? Why was she not in any of the TikToks or RU-vid videos? She created the character and she was nowhere to be seen? Sus.
FN Meka described in 3 different ways: 1. Vocaloid, but with too much real life baggage. 2. Gorillaz, but without the sharp satire of celebrity culture. 3. A virtual music project, but with almost no music to back it up.
They pulled the ultimate "I've got black friends" move with those responses. Also, I kinda want a new series of "Jarvis Demands" now. I'd imagine it would be along the lines of "grinds my gears".
I had to look up capitol records, and was shocked to find out that they manage people like Katie Perry, Halsey, the Beastie Boys, the Bee Gees, Neil Diamond, Nial Horan, Sam Smith and Paul McCartney. How did such a successful record label sign on this?
I don't know about these days, but they also used to have exclusive rights to distribute The Beatles also. I'm as confused as to how this happened as you are.
as an actual 3d artist this shit just pisses me off because of how it devalues and commercializes 3d art and does nothing but drive respect away from the craft.
“An Asian guy with a black voice” Jarvis - “What does that mean?” “It’s desperate and sad society we live in now” Jarvis - “What is this” Thank you Jarvis. Thank you 😂
Someone tried to defend Meka to be by giving the whole “capitalism breeds innovation” speech. Basically he said that because Meka was created to make money, he’s obviously a reflection of what people want to see. Needless to say, I think he was wrong.
Meka literally proves the "capitalism breeds innovation" thing wrong, the innovation was done by gorillaz which isn't a corporate made at all, it was just two friends who wanted to do something different. Then a whole bunch of companies tried to copy them with garbage like this, this isn't innovation, it's devolution.
This is the fastest and quickest justice ive ever seen, i have to credit a lot of it to you thou jarvis. Glad the world is listening nowadays to how harmful this shit is
Yes. 90s and 2000s were such a different place.. this would have gone largely unnoticed in certain times. Glad there's people like Jarvis who use their platform for the good of humanity.
I think one major thing that these “AI” virtual “performers” don’t understand is that they don’t actually know who their audience is. They do whatever they can to remain relevant, but not with passion or vision; this is why there’s conflicting tones in their presentation and a lot of shilling. They want to make money, so they try to appeal to everyone and end up appealing to nobody. Polar, for example, seems to lean into the VTuber and Vocaloid audience, but also tries to profit off of Crypto bros and the Metaverse, and also appeal to kids and teenagers with bland, clean music and to stay relatively mainstream. The end result is a bland, corporate black hole of an entity that has no personality of her own beyond the most generic, marketable shit. FN Meka is the same thing, but in a different way. FN Meka co opts a lot of modern Rap music aesthetic to bring in that Audience, but also he needs to be blank and marketable enough to appeal to crypto bros and can’t actually have a solid character beyond that. So we get this ridiculous combo of a character that tries to appeal to different, clashing ideals. We get a robot that is meant to represent a character who deal with the tribulations black rappers go through but is also a soulless entity who exists to market products. At least real rappers who do a lot of shilling have actual personalities beyond their work. FN Meka only exists for profit, and it’s disgustingly obvious. Gorillaz has been doing the “fake performing artist” thing for decades, but there is passion and EFFORT behind the scenes, and plenty of Gorillaz fans will tell you that the people behind the project are just as, if not MORE, important as the fictional band itself. If I was giving these people the BIGGEST benefit of the doubt, I’d think the police brutality thing was meant to be either a joke or some kind of social commentary, perhaps a way to reach out to a predominantly black audience, but the people behind Meka are so out of touch and clueless behind what the appeal of rap actually is beyond all of the superficial shit that they deservedly screwed themselves over.
I briefly worked for a company who made digital influencers and let me tell you, they're notorious in the city for being the worst place to work. So many bad business practices - content stealing, only hiring kids out of college to underpay them... They fired me for taking a week off after being in the hospital, but I was a contractor, so 🤷
jarvis I just gotta say, you made an offhand comment in this video saying how you're not an actual journalist or anything, but I really appreciate how considerate and responsible you always are when putting information into videos like these. you always say which articles or social media accounts or videos you're getting stuff from and give lots of credit to those creators, and you also go the extra mile to actually reach out to the various parties involved in this whole mess and see what other info is out there. basically, I always feel like I'm in good hands with your videos and appreciate all the hard work that goes into being as accurate and complete as possible while also being funny.
It's like after ripping off Gorillaz, they saw the Free Murdoc thing and said "you know what would make money? That, but completely insensitive to what's going on today."
I also thought about 'Free Murdoc'! The big difference being that Gorillaz put out a load of music and the narrative built subtly through that. This thing was story first, music second.
nah, that's giving them too much credit. I'm pretty confident they actually didn't see the whole "Free Murdoc" event take place at all and just came up with this solely based on the BLM movement. These goobers don't have an ounce of creativity in them. They're only mimicking what they think is "hot" in the real world.
Massive props to the label company for putting out a VERY well curated statement. I love that they took full blame, stated what they couldve done to prevent the problem, and apologized for how horribly it affected black people. Also, for pulling the song instead of letting it continue to generate revenue
doubt the whole team was on board with this, the people who disagreed most likely left the project or got kicked off. explains why there's no talent here lmao
it makes me so uncomfortable when the companies that make these ‘ai’ people just say like “oh, they will be real someday and no one will know the difference between reality and the internet.” if that were real, earth would become a hell.
@@0gammag0 i really hope so. ill admit, sometimes these people really scare me into thinking the metaverse will be real... it freaks me out lol. how about...VR, video games, and all that stay on the internet and reality stays in reality ??? all that "blurring the line between worlds" talk is just aaHHHHHHHHHHH
@@junkyard_dog18 The whole "blurring the line between worlds" thing is obviously an over exaggeration, but the future some people are trying to build is one where VR is commonplace and used for situations where you would normally just go outside. It's basically trying to emulate going outside without it actually being outside. People won't be _unable_ to tell that it isn't real life, they just want ready player one to be real.
@@Conorator this is helpful, thank you ! my brain sometimes worries these people will try to like,, destroy the real world and just teleport us all to the metaverse. its weird lol. people are weird, just go outside, nature is beautiful and healing--as John Muir said, there is no problem nature cannot heal.
@@junkyard_dog18 Well one of the big things about the metaverse that people are excited about is the ability to actually be who you see yourself as. That means that you won't get oppressed for physical traits anymore, and not as many people would ruin their face with plastic surgery. I definitely would prefer just going outside, but some people are a ton more comfortable with things like VRChat. The metaverse craze is optional, obviously even when the metaverse is normalized and everywhere you could just go outside. It's not like you're gonna go outside and start seeing metaverse influencer holograms everywhere like in the Panini music video.
just goes to show how unprofessional and desperate the people behind fn mecha are to be ranting out their troubles to the first guy who shows them support thru dm. do they seriously not even want to reflect on why their behaviors might be offensive?
fr it's almost like they're just a bunch of incompetent crypto bros lol. Like who tf after getting dropped by a record label just vents to a rando in instagram DMs?
@@Kraus- yeah crypto bros are probably the only people self-unaware enough to do something so dumb lol. absolutely zero critical thinking on their part
Are you jealous? Are you jealous of his cgi swag? Are you jealous that he has what you can’t because it doesn’t exist? Are you jealous because you don’t have a team of underpaid animators to make it look like you’re rich even though you don’t exist?
I’m honestly in awe of how when you talked to them one on one and they gave their “unbiased explanation” they somehow managed to make it seem worse. That’s impressive, and not in a good way.
Not exactly a doc, but the Violating Community Guidelines (comedy podcast) did an episode called AI influences that is pretty funny and covers a bunch of these virtual influencers in different genres. If you are interested
As a VTuber, this venture really upsets me. I think influencers can use digital characters to communicate and have fun, but it is always better when it's not an obvious cash grab and involves more genuine artists working on it (illustrators, riggers, streamers, etc). And while I'm usually hesitant to use the term "digital blackface"… it is definitely applicable here, no doubt.
You can tell that whoever wrote the initial draft of the press release for Capitol Records was legitimately angry at FN Meka and the team behind his creation. There are so many parts of their statement that feel more like excerpts of an internal company petition written by regular employees to the people in charge of contracting FN Meka's crew. I'm genuinely happy that they got to pop off in that cancellation announcement. Idk how their announcement got approved by such a large corporation (which didn't care enough to not sign on a racist caricature of a black artist in the first place), but I'm happy the statement's author is living their best life getting to throw hands and discussing the actual problems with FN Meka's portrayal of a black rapper. The part about Gunna's incarceration hits hard and I'm glad the author was given the opportunity to expose how seriously messed up this whole situation is. (I edited this comment for clarity after reading a reply that pointed out some major flaws made in my original comment)
You people are sheep no offense. They did that because of backlash. It’s damage control. They played a massive if not majority role in this entire thing, and the “AI” image, don’t let them fool you. They do this with real artists too. This digital artist just allows for more control , something they continue to be grasping for more of.
@@johnnylego807 I just want to let you know that I'm going to edit my original comment for clarity; so, the comment you're referencing in your comment is basically a completely different statement than before. I just want to let you know that I really do agree with you and that my original comment was kind of a mess. Sorry about writing you an essay, I just don't want to gaslight you by completely changing the original comment without letting you (or anyone else who sees this exchange) know that your critique was relevant and applicable to what I said before editing my post
@@johnnylego807 Yeah no, if we're sheep I am unsure how you aren't part of the flock. Anyway if they had total control, meka wouldn't have been bullied out of commission. These fucktards wasted a bunch of money time and talent making an online minstrel show. And are rightfully getting roasted and removed. The whole team has been game-ended. I don't see any institutional wealth capitalizing off this one. Labels seem like they're gaining control because they've always had it but that's gonna change soon they don't know shit about music or business.
His tiktok followers are most probably bots. He gets little to no interaction for an account with 10 million followers, and half the comments on his tiktoks are bots too. It's also quite strange for someone who supposedly had millions of fans to have tweets that rarely get more than 20 likes.
seriously there’s so many good potential rappers out there trying to get recognized, we don’t need AI robots to take the spotlight just because it’s AI..whatta world
@@aaaah540 thank youuuh !! Ppl keep saying AI but we don’t have any proof of AI (or any intelligence at all for that matter smh lol!), automation and artificial intelligence are not at all one and the same! 😫
Can we take a moment to appreciate the undercover reporting of Jarvis making a burner account pretending to be a fan so he could get some insider info? This situation could have been mostly over if the fake robot man decided to just take the loss and move on, but instead there was just more racist self reporting that we wouldn't have seen without Jarvis. Well done my guy
13:19 people have already pointed out the obvious yikes in this including Jarvis, but also if a real influencer/celeb/etc have such a gossipy response, one that willingly shit talks to anyone in DMs who’ll listen, that’s not good. Immature at best but personal experience has taught me that anyone who’s supposed to be professional pulling this stunt is slimy, manipulates the truth, and just bad news. And this isn’t even touching on the worst subjects like racism 😭
Why are we still entretaining the idea that these "Virtual Influencers" are real entities separate from their creators? They're glorified Vtubers that exist to peddle NFTs or whatever.
I want to say I can’t believe they found the one black person in Utah to and hired her specifically to give the n-word pass, but that is exactly what these people would do.
I’m not saying Jarvis single-handedly responsible for this happy turn of events, but I’m gonna have to say it probably brought a lot of attention to the issue. So thank you Jarvis!!
Thank god! I left a huge comment on your last video (not* directed towards you but directed towards the people who made this “rapper”). Absolute blatant racism and cultural appropriation was just crazy to me. There is no way that that rapper should’ve even gotten that many views or listens to on Spotify. I understand some people aren’t educated on these matters but there’s kind of no excuse not to be anymore we have so much information out there especially about black history and how it affects today’s society and it’s just absolutely mind-boggling to me that that the “ virtual rapper” was even a thing… let alone a thing that was kinda doing ok for it’s self.
@@Shmethan That actually does make me feel better. I felt so disappointed with the amount of listens. I’m glad this is being dealt with! I was so confused on how nobody was talking about the very obvious stereotypical racism. The responses he gave Jarvis are very telling on who they are. “Sound black” like really? What does “sounding black” even mean? So disrespectful.
What a unique moment I’m glad that you did your part Jarvis. Jarring to see the texts at the end, validated everything we were worried about. Glad the money that would have gone to racial exploitation will help do some good for black creators/black communities instead.
I’m sorry, WHO is running that Insta, bc WHY would they say the worst thing possible?! Like, it’s a bad thing to do but you’d expect deflection or denial, but not then defending their stance with “an Asian guy with a black voice” whaaaaat kind of an answer is that? Sounds like something a 12 yo on Xbox live would say, which honestly, seems like their whole demographic. Only reason it hasn’t been called out before now is that their audience isn’t old enough to recognize it. This is one of the more wild stories of animated shenanigans I’ve heard in a while.
Whyd they have to choose the stereotypically annoying part of the hip-hop style? Its all flexing and hype, the fact he even got popular is concerning. Also a digital rapper and no T-Posing jokes? No Backwards Long Jumps? No Ragdolls? Not even a joke about No-Clipping out of jail in order to escape? Come on, theres so much oppourtunity to be good and his usage of the fact hes a digital character is so far from creative. Didnt he even mention CS:GO? Come on man, I full buyed last round and only got enough for armor, If Im gonna hold B site then you gotta AT LEAST drop me that AK you picked up off of that dude in mid last round.
What..? EDIT: OP meant they’re giving Jarvis credit for FN Meka being canceled even though he most likely had little to nothing to do w/ it. Don’t like this comment for the explanation, like the ones further in the replies! They’re the ones that explained it to me! :D
To the confused folks in the comments: OP is saying they’ll attribute Jarvis to FNMeka losing the deal with the record label, regardless of the fact that realistically Jarvis likely had little if anything to do with it
at this point, "ai" is nothing more than an empty buzzword instead of just saying that it's gonna be a concept inspired by vocaloid or that it's gonna be a brand new version fo a vtuber, it's just an ai controlled charcter that isn't controlled by ai
I hope you're doing well Jarvis and also taking time to decompress and be okay after dealing with such vile content so regularly. Please always make time to look after yourself! We love you, stay premium
fn meka's insta is private, his tiktok has all but one video deleted, and hes down to 16,000 monthly listeners after less than a month. nature is healing
"So you see, something called the internet happened.." "Oh my lord-" "And then after the inspiration of that popular vocaloid years later-" *the founding fathers have a heart attack simultaneously*
It would take time and effort. But generally, it would be propaganda like the original Birth of a Nation, but your target audience may be... smaller than 100 years ago
arguably that's what a lot of the new right is trying to do. might not look like it to the audience which typically watches Jarvis's videos, but to them its like "we are smart enough to call the lib snowflake pc bullshit" and so they paint eugenics/racism as a positive/smart/redpill thing. terrifying, and more aligned with something like Triumph of the Will. Wish the audience was smaller than it was 100 years ago, but I am not sure that is actually the case.
I think it's one of those understatements, he's basically saying it's depicted in a _very_ gross way. It's like saying "that's not a small wave right there" pointing to a tsunami, just a thing the English language tends to do sometimes. Not the best comparasion as waves _can_ be small but racism can't be flattering. But I think that's the gist of it. That or it's just Jarvis' usual witty humor
Thank goodness that got nipped in the bud. The thing I find most concerning about virtual influencers is that these companies, if they maintain that an AI creates the songs and lyrics rather than people behind a curtain, can potentially shrug off criticism for offensive lyrics by saying "sorry the algorithm wrote that and it slipped through lol". There would still be a lot to answer for as far as marketing and such goes, but they can slip out of blame pretty easily by claiming faulty AI programming.
