Vtuber "Hot Takes" That Will Get Me Cancelled 

Anyone who thinks they are in an actual relationship with a vtuber need actual help from their friendly neighborhood psychiatrist's

The fact that there are people out there that honestly, earnestly believe that you HAVE to engage in Twitter drama in order to consider yourself a Vtuber is always funny to me. To quote one of the great philosophers of our time, Dave Chappelle, "Apparently, they dragged me on Twitter. I don't give a fuck, because Twitter's not a real place."

Rev has pretty much been canceled so many times now that its pretty much normal. Everyday, he dwells into the pit of darkness also known as twitter. To inform us about controversy or anything vtuber related, Rev is the best.

"Everyone loves drama, they don't want to admit it." Do not speak for me good sir. I LOVE hearing about drama.

Getting rejected by a VTuber agency is similar to being rejected for any job. But it can be hard to understand for people that never worked a minute of their lives, unless they count as work typing hot takes on Twitter.

Getting cancelled in 2023 is honestly a badge of honor that should be worn proudly.

I swear 90% of the people who complain and whine that everything is pedo are just bored and don't actually give a crap. They just want to cause trouble for their own amusement. Because if they actually cared, they would know what is and isn't pedo.

You're too based for those haters Also getting canceled by said haters is a badge of honnor

Hey Rev, could you please cover this situation. So there this game called Geometry Dash, it's a rhythm platformer game, where you can make your own levels. Some one recently made a level called "Onii Chan." And the comments section of the level and on twitter are just absolutely filled to the brim with hate, pedophile accusations, and death threat comments. Skip this part if want some context on the rate system in the game: (and let me tell ya, getting a rate is a MASSIVE deal. There are over 95 million levels, but only less than 350k are rated) So anybody can make a level and upload it on the servers. But if you want your level to be official, you have to pray by some luck of god that the creator of the game see it, and likes the level enough to rate it. There are 3 levels of rates. Star, Featured, and Epic. And the more he likes the level the higher the rating, so you could have a really good level, but if he doesn't like it, or the content in it, he'll either give you a star rate, or not rate it at all. Now he probably only saw 2 seconds of the level then featured it. But after twitter showed him that it had anime characters he bumped it down to only a star rate. And people gave the creator so much hate. A LOT of people in the Geometry Dash community are antis and a bunch of hypocrites, and you've probably guessed it, a good portion of those people are furries. Nobody is the GD community is brave enough to stand out against these anits in fear of not getting rates by the creator of the game. I'm begging you can you please give the gd community a reality check. If you need any screenshot or videos then let me know.

"the vast majority of the vtuber scene is mentally ill" thank you.. finally someone not being afraid of stating the obvious that has to be said

Getting cancelled is nothing nowadays

8:54 I've literally never understood how a person with < 100 viewers over several years would think that they can give advice on "how to grow your channel"

Reminding a streamer to take care of themselves during an especially long stream is just normal, it's not even just limited to VTuber viewers. Hell, I'm pretty sure I've seen people remind, for example, Vinny to get rest when he clearly needs it or at least ask if he's getting tired if he sounds like it.

Every pedo that gets baited into watching loli vtubers (aside from that this is not a thing) would be one less pedo spending time with actual kids. No anti ever had made a good argument why "pedo baiting" (again, this is not a thing) is a bad thing.

I like what Cosmo said on that thread: "It's okay to not be involved in everything. We're entertainers by choice, we have chosen to entertain people with our time. Getting involved in drama and politics does not entertain our viewers who have chosen to share their time with us instead of wasting it on that stuff." Good words, strong anti-clout sentiment. For journalists like Rev it's fine, it's their thing. Whether it's the VTuber's platform or not is irrelevant, your role is your role. Changing roles to cater to a smaller, louder group is the whole basis of "Get Woke Go Broke". All it does is generate resentment and alienation, and it's especially hypocritical when the same vtuber whines about being so busy all the time. What did that one girl say a couple of months ago? "You'd not be so busy if you'd quit being a Vtweeter all day long."

I used to see Kyho as more of the Drama Alert of the Vtuber world, and FalseEyeD as more professional. Nowadays I just regard them both as Drama Alert.

People need to learn that parasocial relationships aren’t real. You can acknowledge that you have one but don’t think you actually know them. It’s becoming more and more of an issue with online creators, not just VTubers

I swear I’m liking Khyo more and more, especially after he pissed off Ducky, Marina, RedClaw, and many more. Calling out bad behavior, yes even in the form of drama, should be encouraged.

There is a living example, Takane Lui, she tried for several years to get into Hololive. There is a very strict casting and if the company does not see you as a person who can entertain people and sing and dance, then they will 100% refuse you.

17:10 Calling lolitubers pdfiles while having a loli profile pic is rather...ironic

Im sorry rev, I hate to break it to ya, but you are the textbook definition of a journalist. With that being said, most people who try and claim that title aren't, so you can take pride in that your a proper journalist and not a "journalist".

I think the reason why most people consider the serious stuff as "Drama" is because every other week with ENVtubers theres a Boy who cried wolf sitatuion

I’m going to be honest, seeing Rev with wings and having an angry face was so adorable, I love it. Didn’t know you have that because I’m new to your channel 😆

commentary/news vtubers being a good thing for the community is not universal. in real life, especially in America, news outlets lie and misrepresent points, often not doing proper research, for clicks and views. The same thing is true for news vtubers like Khyo, who did the exact same thing for situations involving vshoujo (Nux situation and the Ant vtuber with Froot situation). they CAN be good, but arent always good

I sort of hate the irl stuff on vtubers, If I wanted to see a real face I'd be watching something like Markiplier so the simpbucks stuff is well off in my book.

Personally, I think the posting about being rejected by a agency is not a bad thing, it just matters about the tone of it. Examples Bad: On this agency rejected me, it doesn’t matter, they’re filled with talentless hacks anyway. Good: I got rejected by the agency I applied for, but it’s okay, there’s always a next time, whoever got the slot deserves all the praise for the job they got.

8:46 SMALL NOTE HERE: Some people might have tons of experience working in the industry and simply don't focus on their own channel as much. Paddy Galloway for example, works with the biggest creators there are. Sure they have a decent following but that's not the case for everyone.

Alice Cooper has been canceled plenty of times, and the general public still loves him.

7:57 This but with all of the commentary community channels and a lot of people calling serious accusations like pdfilia/grooming as "drama" it boils my blood when they do that.

Define cancelled. Cancelled as in having the people we need to gatekeep upset at you? Or cancelled as in actually losing audience? Because they're not the same.

Ohohoho! Hot takes/unpopular opinions relating to vtubers is going to be peak 🍿

Reminders to take care of one's self are just common sense. Fans hate it when a streamer they like breaks down and has to take extended breaks. One less hour on each of a few streams is better than one month or longer without any streams.

It absolutely takes balls to speak up while knowing the consequences within this current society. I commend you 👍

3:53 - First time seeing Rev having vampire wings. Not gonna fuckin' lie.

Rev has a fiance?? Unfollowed. This is a joke for those who struggle with sarcasm...

Bat wings and an angry face. Adorable 😢

Vtubers need to roleplay their characters harder...! Very tired of just "RU-vidrs with avatars".

Vtubers who attack loli and other spicy elements from Japanase culture, are and always will out themselves as trend-chasing tourists . EN vtubing scene has a tourism problem.

I panicked when a friend of mine sent me the screenshot that you covered my tweet. Because some people told me its a absolutely common take. MOOOOOOOM I MADE IT TO REVS CHANNEL!!!!

I will say, as a nonTuber of any variety, there is one piece of advice I will give, that no one will disagree with. Focus on your content, not the numbers. I've told that to a VTuber friend ages ago. Dunno if he ever took it though, since I stopped watching after he did it on the next stream. Oh yeah. **DEFINITELY DON'T** do that shit while you are live.

Rev's model at the end though made me chuckle.

Best take is "V in vtuber stands for virtual ", iv seen a few vtuber twitters just no actually use of the model but instead they are using other Assets for "Advertisement " . I think nowadays with how popular Vtubing , sometimes people just bandwagon regardless of liking anime or wanting to make a character of their but just doing it cause its popular . There's more detail of course but u get the idea , decent takes on this vid with some copoium ones as usual but that's twitter . Oh wait i mean "X"

Well I'm not sure if this is a hot take at all but I do wonder if there are some vtubers that have parasocial interactions with their audience that goes both ways? For example with Rushia (not saying she ain't doing it for the money cause more than likely that is the case) may appeal to the the whole GFE but I wonder if to some extent she may feel kind of the same way towards her viewers and actually gets a bit jealous if they watch other streamers. Again not a hot take but just more of a hypothesis (then again i could just be over thinking things).

12:50 I think they're talking about fans of male vtubers, not male fans of vtubers. And it might jet be that they see it in the male vtuber space more often.

The fact that I've been watching you for about a year... I'd say. And I have never known that your model has wings was kinda mind blowing. Even funnier that you forgot about it too lol

This is more or less why I stick to only corporate VTubers, because there's actual managers breathing down the necks of VTubers to make sure they don't say or do anything stupid (though things still slip by). The only non-corporate VTubers I watch are Rev and Depressed Nousagi because of the professionalism.

Here's a take. If you want people to like you, stop forcing your political views on people and don't be sexist towards half of your audience.

Angry face was kind of cute, not gonna lie.

Getting canceled by haters is practically a badge of honor. Also those demented vtubers lumping straight guys with pdf is of very poor taste that it's unbelievable.

Lets be real if defending the difference between lolicons and pdf files hasnt got you canceled yet nothing will

They pronoun detected opinion rejected

In response to the hot take at 19:42 : If I personally were to make a VTuber model, I would want to make a character that has traits similar to that of Toriel from Undertale. I'm not much into Undertale anymore, nor am I even into DeltaRune. But I LOVE Toriel! Why? Well, she's sweet, protective of her children, and such a wonderful mother! Just, a motherly figure all around! I would probably give the VTuber model her outfit + glasses, along with horns and ears to match! The rest would consist of human features, probably brown hair and blue eyes! I'd wanna be a mother figure in the VTuber community! ^^ But that's simply just an idea on my end, I don't have the financial/technical things to make that happen.

People should be indie vtubers before applying for a corporation.

Its important to note with the vtuber agency auditioners getting rejected, some of the most successful Hololive girls have stories of getting rejected multiple times. Fuwamoco as a most recent one was apparently rejected a dozen times before they got accepted. Bijou as well IIRC, but less rejections for her. I've heard it enough from Hololive girls in clips that im actually fairly sure the rejection is actually part of the audition process. Seeing vtweeters get so mad in socials about being rejected *once* and then seeing stories about multiple rejections before acceptance just leads me to think they use rejections just to see if the applicant is just applying to apply or because they genuinely want to be a part of the company.

I understand being *disappointed* at a agency rejection, same as anyone else who gets disappointed at a turned down job opportunity, but it's not ideal to go about insulting those agencies or the process as a whole as if that's going to somehow reverse the decision (when in actuality its just going to dig your hole deeper).

Everytime I watch a Rev video I'm reminded why I left twitter and I am at peace with it 😂

The whole reminders to take care of yourself thing is kind of cringe in the way vtubers do it but honestly it's pretty normally. Like half the streamers I watch on twitch have a drink water reminder thing. Especially for communities that are prone to addictions like MMOs and ARPGs

Idk if this is a “hot take,” but honesty, I’ve become fairly disillusioned with VTubing as a whole over the last year or so. And I say that as someone who was big into VTubers before the huge VTubing Boom even happened. It just feels like everybody belongs to two camps nowadays. It’s either fake happiness where everything is always perfect and talking about bad things is a big no-no, or everybody hates each other and is constantly at each others’ throats over every little thing. It’s all become so toxic and hostile. And that’s not to say “covering drama” or talking about controversies is bad. If something bad happens, people should know and be allowed to discuss it. But the entire community as a whole just feels so aggressive nowadays. Either aggressively positive to the point of feeling disingenuous, or just plain aggressive. Idk, it’s hard to describe. It just feels like I don’t have the time or patience for this anymore. I just wanted to watch talented entertainers do their thing, dressed up as cute anime girls. I suppose I can still do that. Maybe it’s my fault for engaging with these parts of the community. But there’s definitely been a paradigm shift in the way this community behaves, and I can’t be the only one who feels it, right?

12:45 that tweet is such low hanging fruit, no right mind would even consider challenging this because it debunks itself.

Kind of the point of Vtubing originally was that it allowed you to be whatever you wanted. Then it sort of devolved into a way for people who didn't want to show themselves or were self conscious about their appearance to be able to make online content with something other than a disembodied voice. Now I think vtubing has kind of just become a trend but in a good way. It's just something to have fun with that is open to everyone. Even if some of the more extremist communities don't want that to be the case since vtubers became their form of escapism. I think most new vtubers don't even try to hide their IRL appearance anymore like in the past I think the vast majority of people just get into for fun now and then if it gets big that's just a plus. The grifters at least to me seem to be in the minority at this point.

Why is Rev not over 1M subs yet?!

It's the same growth steps as being a RU-vidr or streamer you just have the virtual aspect to go with which makes the whole scene/community a different beast

Honestly, rev angry face is amazing.

Rev. You are a true chad amongst content creators. You're so good a tearing twitter a new one. I respect that.

Rev: I have vampire wings. Me: YOU DO?!?

By now you're immune to being "cancelled" after countless failed attempts from the usual antis

Not Oshis exactly, but I did use to follow Minty and Marina before seeing them in one of your videos. I kinda had concerns on a third one but was relieved to see that was not the case.

Indies who don't make it into agencies and then dedicate themselves to shitting on agency vtubers are hilarious because its always the most unlikable nobodies whos entire personality could be replaced by one of those toys where you pull the lever and it belts out an animal noise.

This is also why if I get into content creation, I'm not gonna show my face or speak on anything regarding social matters and politics, because nowadays some people only seem to watch content based on the creators appearance, age, stances on certain topics, or beliefs. People who post things like their appearance or their personal beliefs likely have people following them just because they look cute or they won't say anything "insane", and not for what they actually bring to the table in terms of content, regardless of whether it's well made or mediocre.

14:58 I think that’s terrible, I could never in a million years start asking people online for money, I’d rather starve.

nobody could switch between vtuber and real life like Kson....

More content like this pls 🙏😂 It's a nice break from Twitter drama news and since people already hate you, you might as well

even "normal" jobs can cause someone to forget to take care of themselves.

side note, but I've heard several times about the toggles, so I'm trying to incorporate them as I learn to stream, entertain and vtube. Because I use the free stuff, the toggles are basically just expressions, but it's a great way to stand out in a crowded field.

This video was banger, Rev earned my sub again. Also Rev saying "you will make yo self look stupid" had me roll

Yes, Vtubers aren't obligated to you just cuz you support them, HOWEVER, you are also not obligated to support them and can stop supporting or criticize them for whatever reasons you want. If they want your support, they might have to give in to your "demands." Take Rushia. Many of her simps don't like her playing (or"flirting" in their eyes) with other men, and while she's not obligated to give in this "demand," she tries to do so anyways cuz she wants their support and simp money. In fact, most Vtubers and idols (both men and women but mostly women) try not to publicly get involved with the opposite sex for this reason. They're not obligated to do so but if they want that simp money, they'll do it.

As far as the toggles go I don't have a second monitor so I would literally have to tab out of whatever I am doing in order to do the toggles XD

Ok the face u make at the end is both funny and somehow adorable

>PNG TUBER Opinion discarded 🎩 🐍 no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰

Rev is so real for this video

A good Vtuber model doesn't always get you a good start either. I can think of Nier Akhunova. Super nice and cute vtuber model, definitely on the higher end of quality. But they could barely gain more than 15-20 views per stream despite consistently streaming. Cute voice, really charming, but it didn't work. I see now that she has stopped streaming, even deleted her channel and twitter. I am not 100% sure, but I think she's restarting and now go under the name Tai Koyuki.

Khyo basically annihilated any interest I might ever have in his channel when he was the clickbaiting clout farmer. I'm never watching him again.

On the "go to sleep" and "go eat something" front, you see it all the time in MMOs. I see it in all of the ones I play for any period of time. "Hydration check", "posture check", and so on are common things that pop up in general chat, because we know how we are. Hell, WoW has a loading screen that reminds us to go outside on occasion.

13:20 WHAT!?!?! Noooooooo, NOW WAY?? That couldn’t possibly be true… Surely not.

ok but look at that adorable smug face rev has in the thumbnail, i love it sm

It's completely fine to start out using free programs, you don't have to go into debt to debute. Heck I'm teaching myself Live2D because I don't have the funds to commission anyone.

Ironmouse is built different 2 30 day subathon She an original gangster

I kind of disagree with Rev about not having to pay someone to be told that sex sells. The past decade has shown that people have forgotten about this lost knowledge. Can look at RU-vid's policy changes as evidence. Yeah its applied arbitrarily, but it seems like they would rather throw that potential money away by preventing others from cashing in on it. The money they get from their corporate overlords better offset these losses.

Great video as always, Rev!

The people who say "they don't enjoy VTuber drama" tend to be the ones the most involved in it or create it. Many hypocrites in all communities exist, it's just fun to point out the ones who are. Great work once again. ^_^

I wouldn't mind you using the bat wings more often, I like them

Rev is too popular to get cancelled, he would have to something seen as deplorable like having a debate/discussion with UndeadChronicXIV

Here's a hot take, Vtubers should not engage in any political topics whatsoever. It's way more important focusing on your own community, your own content, and your own goals than getting brownie points for agreeing with whatever people like to hear.

Ive seen you use the angry face fairly regularly but I dont think I have EVER seen the vampire wings before...

I really need more Rev reading tweets with an angry face

I did a 24 hour stream when I was younger...never...again. I felt terrible afterwards and towards the end it was just freaking silence from me being so exhausted.

I forgot you had wings they kinda look tho

"if you want to join a VTuber agency, you need to skills"* *except for Vshojo before JP branch

I'm very new to the scene... and yea, I got baited by the Vtuber support chain. I already had a hunch but some part of me just kinda gave it a benefit of the doubt.

4:20 I think that the drama with Kyoh stems from him previously using 4chan posts and using them as sources and framing it as if it was legitimate, but because of how 4chan works whatever gets posted there should always ALWAYS be taken with a huuuuuge grain of salt. Kyoh did realize this mistake and corrected his own behaviour, so that drama ended in good terms and both parties already reconciled in private Edit: that or the self described journalist is something new that recently popped up