WATCHING 3 MORMONS RESPOND TO ATHEISM 

I'm an ex Mormon, and I don't think I will ever drink alcohol or do any drugs. I don't really care if people do it casually, I just decided that it's not right for me. The amazing thing about leaving the church is that I get to choose what's good for me, and what sits right. I feel more mentally healthier now

If fundamentalist Christians go to heaven, I’m fine going to hell. It’ll be a party with all the atheists, scientists, LGBTQ+ persons, and rock bands.

God, Greg trying to talk about science gave me a headache. I literally don't know how to respond because nothing he is saying is confluent or makes logical sense. "Prokaryotic cells evolve into fertilizer and fertilizer isn't sentient, therefore Atheists don't have morals." Like what the fuck?

I love the beginning “We look like angels “ she says And he says “ we look like cult leaders”😂

I feel the spirit strongest when I watch ASMR videos or listen to Swedish cow calling.

I was talking with my very Mormon friend about race and how Mormons believe how black people came to be. I was very heated and talking about the scientific side of race and my friend actually said to me, "I don't believe in science." Like what?

This channel has been the fresh air I've needed. It almost makes me cry to know my exmormon story and feeling is shared.

Atheist here who doesn't drink alcohol. I can't stand the taste, so I don't drink it.

I don’t rob rob because sky daddy would be mad at me

Transcript of the Ben Stein interview of Richard Dawkins. Not quite what 3 Mormons claim: Stein: whatabout a nice god? Dawkins: well if it makes you happy believe what you like, but its still a superstition, and its liberating to get rif of the idea Stein: what percentage do you place on the existence of god? Dawkins: i dont know. its a bit of a stupid question Stein: who created the universe Dawkins: another stupid loaded question Stein: so how did life first happen Dawkins: we have some idea of the kind of thing it must have been, but we dont know, neither does anyone else Stein: could intelligent design be the answer to anything in science Dawkins: well...i guess if aliens did it, that would count. Even that would be more likely than god.

Some other things we wish we'd said in the video but didn't because BEING ON CAMERA IS A LOT OF PRESSURE: - Alcohol isn't a necessary part of being an atheist, and plenty of theists drink alcohol. Mormons like Greg seems overly fixated on alcohol, and constantly imply that alcohol is what ex-Mormons replace religion with, which is absurd. Who in “the world” teaches that alcohol is what makes you happy?? What makes us happy is love for other people and the natural world. It's connection, relationships, wonder, learning, exploration, GRATITUDE, etc. Alcohol is a very small part of our lives and sure, we have a lot of happy experiences while drinking it, but we'd have happy experiences with or without alcohol. STOP BEING SO OBSESSED WITH ALCOHOL! - We love how Greg reduced the 2nd law of thermodynamics (energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred from one source to another) into "we're just pieces of fertilizer!" “I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them.” - Galileo Galilei

I've never been religious, but I am absolutely obsessed with how you two deconstruct these harmful worldviews. Amazing content.

Why are Mormons so hung up over alcohol, but not coffee? Don't they hate coffee as well?

Everyone i have seen who responds to 3 Mormons says the fish thing!

They started out pretty good, but quickly devolved to spewing every stereotypical idea that christians/theists have about atheists. Declaring how a group of people feel and think without actually talking to them to LISTEN to their answers is ignorance. It's like saying all muslims are terrorists or all mormons still practice polygamy, things some people actually believe. They should educate their selves before talking about things they don't know anything about. This is so painful to watch, I can almost feel brain cells dying. One might think they're LDS Inc puppets, reaffirming what good mormons already think they know. I've been out of the church for 12+ years and atheist about half that time.. I'm still not addicted to alcohol or drugs, I still have the same feelings of compassion and empathy for people, I still think killing or harming others is wrong even tho I don't fear going to hell. When I was a believer I never thought people who are atheist were void of morals, so it still baffles me that so many religious people believe that way.

" Jesus had alcohol" ... I just realized this but.. the justification I was given in my former ward was that wine wasn't alcoholic in the roman days but became alcoholic in modern times... and the only sources I had were from my church days. And I kept assuming that was true even after leaving the church... until I realized how stupid it is to have non alcoholic wine.. that was pretty much just now. These little things just keep creeping up Funny story.. I was telling my sister (who is still Mormon) about how I was trying wine-making and she asked how it would taste if I just didn't add the alcohol.....................

Those three don't have any interest in actually understanding any non-Mormon views, that was painful. Kwaku actually blocked me on twitter a while back even though we'd never exchanged any tweets with eachother...gotta protect yourself from learning what an agnostic exmo might say on the internet, lest you learn something about other viewpoints, right?

Their arguments could have appeared so much more valid and well rounded if they'd invited an atheist into their video and had a rational conversation discussing both sides! They just present these ridiculous generalisations that everyone (mormons) have heard heard at church - and are unsubstantiated. Great video, though 😊

"You're a prokaryote cell that turned into a self-replicating cell..." What? Prokaryote cells *are* self-replicating. Does he mean protocell? But protocells were also self-replicating. I'm not quite sure he knows what he's talking about.

Mormons treat life like a flyover state For those of you who might not be familiar with the term, "flyover state" is a rather derogatory term used to describe the states you must pass through on your way to your destination, but you don't see any reason why someone would want to actually stop there. Preferably, the only way you'd ever see it is looking down from 30,000 feet. I was talking to my dad today, and realized that this is really the way Mormons are taught to view their mortal existence. They're on their way from one place that was pretty great (premortal life) to an even better home (the Celestial Kingdom), but in the way is the desolate waste known as mortality, which must be slogged through on their way to their true destination. The problem with the flyover state mentality is that you actually miss out on some pretty fantastic stuff while you're single-mindedly trudging towards your destination. For instance, if you take Nevada for a flyover state, you'll miss out on all the fun of Las Vegas. This life is incredible and amazing and fun and wonderful. And I'm saddened that so many of my friends and family spend it shuffling along, staring at their feet, making sure they never step out of line, doggedly heading for a destination they can't even prove exists. I think the greatest tragedy of Mormonism is that it causes people to look at the only life we can be sure we'll have as something that must be "endured to the end," rather than enjoyed in its own right!

I lost my husband very suddenly last year, and even though he was being cremated, I was asked if I wanted him "preserved" the thought of them messing with his body, and filling him with horrible chemicals, made me feel sick. I point blank, said no way. He was only 55 and lifetime atheist, the humanist I had at his funeral was amazing. We had been together 22 yrs, I am 15 yrs younger than he was, and the whole time he made me promise I would give him a fancy dress funeral..... so I did.... even the funeral directors dressed up, scooby doo in the hearse, got some funny looks, not everyone understood or honored his request. lots of love and peace to you all..... take care frm the ex-Catholic... or lapsed according to the church.....

I remember thinking like these three mormons, as I once was one. So glad to be rid of the idiocy.

I've just barely begun watching your channel (and by that I mean I've probably watched all of your videos in a week 😂) and it has really helped me with my doubts of me leaving the church when I move out, helping me realize that being in the Mormon church does more harm than good not only to me but also others, thank you.

Ugh the part about people with depression struggling to feel the spirit makes me genuinely angry, even with the caviat about "its not your fault." Because if we accept that it's not my fault, then why does having a mental illness make me exempt from God keeping up his end of my baptismal covenants? When I was baptized & confirmed, the promises I allegedly made with God were that if I prayed, repented, and did my best to obey, I was guaranteed the gift of the holy ghost as my CONSTANT companion (they very specifically say "constant"). Why does me going through something incredibly difficult and lonely exempt me from having the comfort of the spirit and the atonement when I need it most? How does a supposed loving god justify that? My journey out of the church began BECAUSE the comfort and guidance my brain created, which I called "the spirit," just suddenly stopped like someone cut a wire, when I was about 14 or 15. I know now I experienced those things due to a placebo effect, because I'd been taught so heavily they existed that my brain created the feelings, much as your brain can cure you of an illness when you're given a sugar pill you believe to be legitimate medicine. In retrospect, it probably stopped because of my increasing levels of depression at that time, as well as the general extreme chemical changes my brain was experiencing due to puberty. But I spent YEARS after that begging and pleading with god, trying to be more obedient, desperately repenting of every stupid thing I could think to fault myself for, begging god to help me to know what I was doing wrong so I could repent of it, and at my worst, begging God to let me die so I could move onto an easier phase and all of that, with basically nothing changing, except that my mental health deteriorated gradually, more and more until I left. After years of more painful bullshit, I finally got out, but I gotta say, I'm SO glad no one ever told me then it was normal for depressed people to lose the spirit, because I was in too deep to question it. I simply would have hated myself for being what I saw as "broken" even more, and dug myself deeper into the pits of my depression and suicidal ideation. I barely survived growing up Mormon as it was.

These three remind me of the district leader that I wanted to smack the shit out of for the entire month and a half of my mission.

Thank you friends. Submitted my resignation today. A challenging day, but I’ll get over it. Keep being good humans!

Let's start a drinking game for each time they say fertilizer! They get jello, we get jello shots, the evil alcoholics we all are. 😄🤣

One of the statements made by the 3 Mormons was that if we are faithful in this life to a certain doctrine, then we will be rewarded in the next life. This concerns me because it prevents us from living in this moment because we are always waiting for the next life, this concept idolizes death rather than life, and people who do good are only doing it for the selfish idea that they will receive a reward.

🤦🏼‍♀️ There also could be a tooth fairy. I remember having my shelf break. All I could describe it as at the time was like when you are a child and you find out Santa isn't real. Yeah, it sucks, but then you buy yourself presents. What is most offensive is that those 3 guys assume morality was church made and didn't exist before religion. People only doing good out of fear is a pretty awful way to live. It's called empathy for all living things! I've become more loving for all creatures since coming out.

Loved this!!! Literally so awesome. Amazing how small minded some people can be. Honestly when they argue keeping the 10 commandments makes them free all I can say to argue that is having more knowledge makes me free!! I was super depressed as a Mormon. Haven’t taken lexapro or had any issues ever since I left. (Although the actually leaving the church was traumatizing) but after a year of recovery it’s been awesome ever since. Thanks for your input! It always helps clarify my own feelings that I can’t put into words

After watching this I'm certain the 3 Mormons would love the video where Kirk Cameron says a banana proves the existence of God.

And for the love of God! (Or not) Would somebody get the fish a bigger bowl!

"If there's a God, I'll meet HIM." Pascal's Wager is so quaint, isn't it?

The Richard Dawkins clip they were talking about was obviously unfairly edited. The thing Richard Dawkins said was not a response to what Ben Stein sad at all. There was totally a huge segment cut out of Ben breaking Richards balls trying to get him to say something stupid.

Being atheistic doesn't mean disbelief in a conscience or consciousness. Greg seems to think those concepts are only held by theists?

I feel like the whole fertilizer thing is another part of the childishness of some Mormon reasoning. It's the whole thing of, "If you don't follow the gospel and yearn for heaven, you just want to decompose and serve the same purpose as poop does. Heh heh heh."

I absolutely love what you said about the spirit and depression. My mom has suffered from depression for many years and, as an active mormon, I have seen her struggle with this. I have wondered about that exact issue on more than a few occasions and kind of reached the same conclusion even before I stopped going to church: if depression can affect people's spirituality, then either depression is a sin (which I could not accept) or there is a problem with spirituality.

I'm an addiction counselor, if anyone cares about credentials, and in my education and experience I side with Sam and Tanner on the alcohol/addiction comments. Also, "One alcohol please, I'm looking to become an alcoholic!" beautiful line. the situation of adjusting "chemicals" in the brain isn't as well understood as is commonly believed. watch out for big pharma. serotonin seems to be connected with sleep and mood, but the connection between SSRIs and the like aren't firmly determined to be the factor in improving mood issues.

Jesus didn't only 'drink alcohol, he made it from water so that everyone could drink it. Strange that he would corrupt them in such a manner?

Thank you for what you said about the emotions. That feeling I learned to associate with the "Spirit" is still just as strong in me long after I've stopped believing in the LDS church.

i've been an atheist in the Netherlands since i was 9. i never had the drive to take any substance. atheism really has 0 relations to taking anything.

“Keeping the commandments actually makes you free, right?” I don’t even think he’s sure about whether or not keeping the commandments keeps him free 🤣

Unrelated to this video, but I feel like the true bisexual struggle is trying to figure out if you love Tanner or Samantha more

Walking around BYU campus right now binging these and loving every second of the sanity it brings. Thanks for these guys :)

This is the second time i see an ad for a bible app on an atheist video

As someone who lives in a predominantly atheist country, It's so weird to me how little they know about Atheists. They are so incredibly sheltered.

can we just take a second to appreciate the phrase "go out and become an alcoholic". I never thought of this, I'm gonna go out and become an alcoholic as soon as I finish watching the video.

The three "gentlemen" in the video you commented on is a perfect example of what I call "mormon pride". They've got it all figured out and everyone else who doesn't believe as they do are all screwed! I loved your comments and agree with you. You guys are refreshing to watch, and I especially liked your first comments on emotions you experience as a mormon and as not a mormon. So thankful to be mormon NO MORE!!!

I LOVE YOU GUYS! Just got out from this controlling manipulative church I'm an ex mormon now and been genuinely happy :) sending love from the Philippines 😘

God, your hair looks great, Tanner. You look like a Greek God. (Sorry for the double comment. :D )

Ya’ll are a breath of fresh air

I chose to not drink because of a medication I'm taking, also because of migraines. I don't need two types of headache in my life... I also go out almost alone, so being vulnerable freaks me out

I'm obsessed with Tanner's hair! Great video

please make a video about ex mormons adjusting to real life ex. ordering coffee struggles

"Be like Jesus: have a little alcohol"

Great video guys. New subscriber!

I love you Sam and Tanner, but I can't strand those Mormon guys.

That was fantastic! 100% agree about the weirdness that is the assumption that without God there would be mass chaos and harm to others. Seems like we see that anyway. Why? You guys said it -- whatever there is in mormons is also in others -- it's called humanness. Lots of gold in this. I loved the church. And now I'm a 6 on Dawkins' scale.

FISH SHOULD NEVER BE IN A BOWL. .. ugh

I want them to make a response to your response!

You can be an agnostic atheist, and agnostic theist, agnostic deist etc. People often misunderstand its definition. Agnostic: a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God. Nowhere does that imply atheism, theism, deism, pantheism etc.

Glad you figured out Mormonism (and all other religion) while quite young. It took me a bit longer!

I'd love it if a preacher said in front of his congregation, "I'm fucking filled with the love of Jesus!" Haha that'd be awesome! (I'm referring to something Sam said about 35 minutes in).

As an ex Mormon myself, I feel bad for the guy in the middle on the 3 Mormon vid. His question "What would I do if I left the church?" rings true to a sentiment that is pushed hard by the church. Mormons are taught to attach everything good that happens to them to the church so if they ever even consider leaving they're afraid they'll lose all the things that make them happy. That was certainly my experience on my way out. Makes me sad to hear other people reflect the same pain and keeping themselves in it.

Awesome video as always. Keep up the good work

I’d be super interested in learning more about Buddhist practices you guys like!

"What's stopping you from robbing people, or killing or raping" Nothing's stopping me. It's just human nature to not really wanna do that shit lol

I'm a very impressionable young lad and so I don't want to watch the 3 Mormons part...but for you I shall.

Sunday Brunch is so binding!

Thanks for talking about the alcoholism thing! I agree with you and I think addiction sometimes doesn't have to do with unresolved trauma but it can have to do with genetic physiological factors that maybe aren't related to experiences. Still not the alcoholic's choice but just another way that it can maybe potentially happen

I grew up with someone who's in his late 40s. He's a branch manager and VP at a major bank in NY and he's also First Counselor in the SP...anyways I interviewed for a job at his bank branch and the things he said about his ethos as a financial guy and someone who has to sign people up for credit cards and such...and this guy was and is a member of the Church in good standing. Since his youth he's been a stalwart member of the Church. My guess is he's been earmarked already as GA or Authority Seventy some day as he's got the right secular resume and Church resume.

Do more reactions to 3 Mormons(oops I mean Saints Unscripted)

Omg getting a Mormon church ad previous to this video!!! 😂🤣😭😭😭😭👎'founded on love' oookayyy... I'm gonna stop before I swear a lot.

I'm thinking of a new drinking game: any time a religious apologist tries to argue against evolution, take a shot whenever (s)he says "accident," "random," or "chance." I call it the ARC challenge.

Question: The garden of Eden was in Missouri? according to the Mormons. How did humanity spread across the oceans to Europe, Africa, and Asia? And why were they different people who came back to America from Israel in wooden submarines? Wouldn't Adam and Eve's children be the native Americans? It is all so confusing. I know the answer is, the story is not true, but how do they explain all of this in church.

thank you for this video! I grew up Mormon and I'm not anymore; I totally hear ya on these things

Ask a Mortician has some awesome ethical burial alternatives! I plan on having my body buried in a forest so that area can become a conservation (look it up!). There's also "liquid cremation" (currently widely legal for pets, same qualms from the states as they used to have for cremation). There's also a study of decomposition where your body is left in the elements and studied. It's fascinating.

I don't really understand being Mormon because I never was Mormon... so sometimes I don't understand some of their terms. Like "this is binding"... are they constipated? how is normal, non-Mormon life binding anyone?

Its here!!

The three Mormon guys are likeable, but they don’t understand that analogies aren’t proof, but rather a way to help us understand how something works.

Well now I'm gonna study buddhism!

ok the atheism dance bit @ 4 minutes is the best thing ive ever seen actually thank you for that

Where did you film this, heaven??

I love how they don’t apply that science to Mormon archeology! And truth changes when they are proven wrong 😂. Keep up the good work

@zelfontheshelf hi there! I've watched a handful of your videos my girlfriends loves you guys, I'm just curious, as to how much research you have done to any other religions, and if so, was that research conducted with an open mind, meaning is your goal to find truth or simply to prove religion wrong? I was raised mormon, and left when I was 15 and did heavy heavy research for 6-7 years and finally landed, in a spot where I identify with a certain religion, which I won't share at the moment, but im just genuinely curious, about the extent of your research if any into other religions other than Mormonism.... thank you guys, keep posting!!

Oh my god, little factories. I just got hit by a wave of memories of my momo parents telling me that my body was a little hormone factory.

I feel like a better argument for them would have been gambling, not alcohol. I can see gambling taking a harder toll on peoples lives when it comes to feeling like you're tied down as those debts become higher and higher. Not saying alcoholism can't be hard on families and individuals, it very much is, but just that gambling has those feelings of trapped helplessness that would have made their points come across better.

There are so many different versions of the First Vision. The first was with an angel, the second with God/Jesus. Others with a host of angels. So many different stories. I don't know why Mormons depend on it to establish the truth of Mormonism. It changed repeatedly.

I actually drank alcohol a bit when I was still Mormon. Since leaving the church, I take my health even more seriously and found out I have a condition that makes me sick and it is triggered by lots of things, including alcohol, so I literally can't drink it without getting sick, and there for I don't. I can't even have Kombucha, which makes me sad cause I love that shit xD

Tanner, thank you for saying that you can be an atheist and an agnostic (or an agnostic theist)! I inwardly screamed that, and then you said it.

The Iliad has more archaeological and historical evidence than the Book of Mormon and LDS Church history.......and the Iliad has Achilles doing battle with a River........so let that sink in.....

Please stop the sugar shaming!! 😂

Greg asks himself and others how we could exist precisely because he exists to ask that. If he hadn't existed, he wouldn't have been able to ask that. It's like that famous Descartes quote. Cognito Ergo Sum.

God have mercy on us all. God have mercy on me, a sinner.

wow. a pair of heavenly atheists 🙏🏻 nice to discover you zelph and shelf

They started off great and then took a right hand turn into weirdsville. Glad they acknowledged that us agnostic and/or atheist are people, but the rest...

The real win is disassociating all the shame, guilt, and self hate caused by the church for doing normal things like drinking tea or coffee

Hello can I just say really quickly that I'm in love with you guys and everything you do is amazing! :D

this is very off topic but i need a hair tutorial from sam her hair is so pretty 🥺💗

I have a allergic reaction to Alcohol... Damn You Mormon Jesus ! I want to sin !