Welcome to Factorio City™! (Why I'm not a Civil Engineer) 

Here's the explanation video for those who REALLY want it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TW5_9iLW9Wg.html it's an hour and twenty minutes of unscripted and mostly unedited rambling, so if that's what you're after, have at it.

An engineer has fallen into despair in Factorio City!

Would it actually be a true city if you DIDN'T have the occasional horn honking, though?

"I think this thing is alive. I cannot fanthom where this error is comming from, so it only make sense than this thing is using its one modicum of free will to torment me" I think that's the most accuraterepresentation of the relationship between me and my programs.

I guess you found out why I did it with Trains ;) I tried the same back in 2017 and came to the same conclusion: It is super cool, but just doesn't scale. Too bad, since trucking would be an amazing addition to Factorio

the fact that THIS one almost made you lose your mind and not the one where you made an entire base out of train cars makes me so excited to watch this :D

35:28 "Works 99% of the time, just let it fail." A frighteningly accurate portrayal of what it's like to be a real software developer. You've actually done a great job of explaining Day 1 bugs in a way the common man can understand it.

where most engineers use their knowledge to find gloriously engineered, great solutions to problems, you used your knowledge of engineering to find a gloriously engineered, terrible solution to a problem. you're willing to sacrifice a little bit of integrity (moving the ore patches closer, using superbots) for the sake of The Run and for our entertainment, and you're not afraid to get a little bit technical with the audience. you're my favorite youtuber.

Logi Brain going "WHOMP" just once every few minutes really cracked me up. I think that's hillarious.

The Logi-Brain striking back at its creator and driving him mad with its free will is giving me some serious Frankenstein vibes. I wonder how well somebody could create a Factorio horror story that was less about the aliens and more about the machines.

The hardest challenge run for Factorio: Making a base that is aesthetically pleasing from the start. Yes you have to clean pollution too.

Based on just looking at logibrain, i actually think that with a bit of tweaking to make itself expandable it could be classified as alive

Your clock-driven encoder decoder sounds a lot like slotted ALOHA for local WiFi networks. Each node gets a time during each cycle to transmit and the router knows which node it's talking to based on the time during the cycle. It's very inefficient but it avoids collisions. It's neat seeing you came up with the same idea from a completely different place!

I feel like Factorio would unintentionally revive the RTS genre with a creative mind.

Honestly the brain to control all the trucks is honestly mind blowing to imagine creating. I really do think you should do a video on it as I imagine its quite the project so why not get some more views :)

Logi-brain will definitely go down in Factorio's history

This guy has the audacity to call himself lazy after spending around 100 hours and all of his braincells doing a challenge in a video game. He then spent 20+ hours making a neural network more intelligent than all of humanity combined, having to make a 1 hour and 20 minute video to simply explain how it works. Words cannot describe how both terrified and impressed I am at what he's done to humanity and the world by unleashing that monster on his patreon for download. One of my favorite youtubers for sure.

Dear god. I attempted something like this with AAI once. I never could figure out an idea of how to handle the signal issue that wasn't short of building a computer, or consuming a landmass equal in size to the UK just for pathing. Good to see my theory was completely correct, and I'm glad I never went through that fresh hell. Lmao @ around 24m: No. No I can't believe this whole thing actually works.

During that play by play my only thought was, "idk wtf he's saying but GO TEAM DOSHINGTON!"

As a part of the 20% that watch straight through till the end I can confidently say you make the most consistently entertaining factorio content on RU-vid. Your videos are a set time aside to watch situation not some background noise, love your content keep it up!

Its super nice that you thought about preventing the engineer from falling asleep by introducing the occational beep-sound

"Some Depots [could] be skipped indefinitely, if they were caught of the backend of some harmonic cycle of at least three depots continuing ta make fail-pulls" w h a t

"Without debugging tools, it is impossible to spot a one-frame mistake that happens once every 20 minutes" Yes. Maybe there could be a mod for that? There is the controllinator that lets you stop circuit networks or debug them one step at a time. But I guess that can only get you so far.

Holy ****, this is amazing. The amount of effort and work that went into making this optimized is just insane. This is peak-Factorio. I used to comment on your vids saying I needed to see how you would manage Space Exploration, but after watching what you accomplished here... uh, I think Space Exploration is going to be an entire order of magnitude _easier_ than whatever you did making LogiBrain. (also,

if you want an actually doable version of this challenge, i would recommend the mining drone and transport drone mods, its basically bots with pickaxes and bots on wheels, the transport ones even follow roads.

Dude I love your content so much, your new video is the biggest highlight of my youtube notifications. Sad to see how little views you get for such high-effort content :(

i never have played factorio. Have never watched anyone play factorio, (before Dosh). Have never talked about factorio. But i have subscribed to this channel because i love Doshs' voice and how interesting and funny he can make all this. Please keep it up i look forward to every video!

I can honestly say I understood maybe half of what was going on in this video, but like a great ape watching someone do a magic trick, I am still legitimately impressed. Well done! Oook.

See, I think I had a premonition when I looked at the unit controller back when I messed with the AAI mod. And it told me to never use it unless I was ready. I can see now that I clearly saved myself at least 100 hours from being added to the playtime of that save file.

the red alert reference is insane, my childhood game. Always found resemblance between Factorio and Red Alert and welp someone else did, amazing vid keep up the good content

I love it... there is only one problem with the round-robin ID-based connection, which is that as the number of terminals/depots increases, the longer your full clock cycle needs to be, so the longer the delay between each depot getting their next turn. Sure, you'd probably need a few thousand depots before this actually becomes a problem, but for true scalability you need depots to be able to send their requests at any time / on any tick. To achieve this I recommend using red wires for control and green for actual data. Each "network card" in each depot will need combinators to cache any sent request, and an extra SENDING signal sent over the control wire (used to detect sending-collisions), with a value exactly equal to 1. Each will also need some logic to read that signal on the tick where you're sending, and if it is exactly 1 you know the message was sent successfully without another device also sending at the same time. If it is greater than 1, then 2 cards attempted to send on the same tick and both failed and must retry.... then you need some kind of way to pseudo-randomise a number of ticks delay, so that when they resend it's most likely to be on different ticks. This can, of course, have it's own problems with too many things being likely to send at the same time, so it can only really work if each device only sends very small amounts of traffic. And of course, you need to tune the resend delays sensibly. But in theory this approach can scale out nicely while reducing expected delays compared to a round-robin approach. The downside is it's probably twice as much combinator insanity, and its way WAY harder to debug (though I actually see those as benefits)! I have my own personal modular suite of various network cards that operate either in this mode (for request/response type messaging), or a round-robin mode (for shared-bandwidth realtime data monitoring), or a sort of hybrid of both for different purposes. And I made a few versions, like Sender-Only, Reciever-Only. Sender/Reciever. Senders with an 8 message cache buffer. Once I was on a roll I guess I went a little bit mad with it. All of them are of course mostly useless, as long before their utility can be properly realised at the scale they're intended for, UPS effectively reaches zero!

Це той контент, про який я мрію. Я переглядаю ваші речі, тому що вони надзвичайно приємні. Зараз я не можу висловити вам нічого, окрім вдячності, але знайте, що вони дуже подобаються. Дякуємо вам за одні з найприємніших відео на RU-vid!

The solution for transmitting data seems a lot like time-division multiplexing

Fun fact, you can mine Uranium with the Miner vehicles. You need to give them drums of Sulfuric Acid and they will periodically consume one and create an empty drum

4:39 Never tought someone would make Command & Conquer out of Factorio, good stuff

I cant even believe the small ass amount of credit you gave yourself for this one. You wired a computer inside of your computer to run a bunch of square computers. You realize this right?

Those C&C unit movement voice lines really threw me back into a nostalgia trip.

13:20 Im pretty sure you can use the mining vehicles, if you supply them with acid Also, you can make use of paths to set up an automated traffic system on roads that are frequently used. Instead of using pathfinding to get from A to B, you can go from A to the start of the path and once the Hauler finishes it, you can let it pathfind to B again. This way you can, for example, set up a highway with zero pathfinding in between and upon exiting it, they go back to using that biter AI.

I can't recommend "transport drones" enough. I'm currently in a run pretty similar to this one, with blocks defined by roads. There are thousands of drones driving around and still zero lag. It's a beauty to watch them go by.

You have just reinvented Time Division Multiplexing lmao.

You deserve a lot more attention, the amount of effort that goes into these videos is crazy. Thank you for the content I hope you continue to grow!

The logibrain and indeed the whole execution is absolutely bananas. Hats off.

I absolutely love the throwback to command and conquer! love your work mate, recently got into your vids a few days ago and must have watched the majority of em. and I barely have 10 hrs in the game. Love the way you explain things with your dry humour and very monotone way of speaking. keep up the good work mate.

I can't believe only such a small amount of people watches your videos till the end :( They're so well made, super entertaining, and the solutions you come up with are imo really cool and smart. Thanks for putting the effort into making these!

Awesome, been looking forward to a new video

Watching the haulers crash into stuff was so freaking funny to me for some reason. The base and your gigabrain thing is amazing, i really wish the game/mods could handle atleast like 500 haulers

This is the last video on your channel I have left to watch Dosh, been an absolute blast binging all of these. You have some incredible talent in content creation. Thanks for all the exceptional videos and I'll keep my alerts on for anything to come :)

This is the content I dream about. I rewatch your stuff because it's super enjoyable. I can't give you anything other than appreciation right now but know these are well loved. Thank you for what are quite honestly some of the most enjoyable videos on RU-vid!

Thats cool. I cant wait for the factorio expansion... and the new possibilities that will give us and modders going forward. I wished developpers gave more info than they did when they announced it.

There is another mod called transport drones. It adds little trucks that work like bots, but only on special roads and can carry multiple stacks. It's also better performance because trucks don't have collision and can rotate in place making pathfinding much simpler

Just when I thought I couldn't love your content any more, you hit me with the extended Command and Conquer reference!

I aspire to your levels of mad genius it's definitely alive

That combinator setup is sick! I would love to hear that 20-minute explanation! Man, i need to learn how to use them! Any good tutorials that you know of?

the mod i always wanted to see someone play this will be interesting

It's a good day when a new Dosh Factorio video comes out! This was so entertaining to watch, and the Logi-Brain is incredible. I hope you keep making videos like this!

my guy you get funnier with every upload. the effort you're putting in is evident! hope your channel continues to blow up! cheers

The train conveyer truely is the hight of human ingenuity

*Tip for space exploration:* you can walk over basic pipes; you don't need undergrounds to actually move in your oil setup. (Although it looks cursed to have a straight pipeline from a pump like 5 years away from your nuclear)

I have never played a game of factorio, nor do I understand anything about engineering, but somehow the absurdity of the goals you have, combined with the moving parts all over the screen and your relaxing explanations of stuff I still fail to understand makes me enjoy every single video I've watched of yours. This one probably lost me the most simply because of the Logibrain but I loved every moment of confusion I was struck with.

Love the use of Tiberian Sun Nod buggy/attack cycle voice lines for the chain gunners bit. Nice touch

AAI is probably one of the most interesting and powerful mods when it comes to doing things differently. If you have access to a beast of a PC

Okay, definitely liking for that C&C kick-in, awakened a bit of lost excitement for me and now I want a FactorioxC&C total conversion

Seeing you build a computer from the ground up to manage this base was incredibly impressive, I would love to see a video on how it works. Keep up the high-effort content man

What a madman. Great video, too. I love watching Factorio stuff

undoubtedly the king of the best worst ideas, always excited to see more uploads

Love your factorio vids❤️❤️

what an incredible run! glad you survived keep up the great work!

I will never skip ahead in your videos! They are way too good! Really happy to see another video from you!

The logibrain is seriously amazing. 20 hrs to complete it is kind of crazy -- I'd expect much longer

This is very nice. In effect you have built a serial communication interface. The whole thing seems a lot like I2C/IIC, since you're running a clock line and a two-way data line to do your work, even complete with a master device and various connected slave devices.

factorio is my 4th most played steam game at 600 hours and this is more advanced then anything ive ever seen for the game, amazing video as always, keep up the good work!

I am speechless. Just for the logibrain(tm) I'll like and fave this video :D never've seen any videos of yours but this one definitely gives me the motivation to check out more. Loved the "play by play" for the logibrain(tm)!

I love these and almost want to see a vanilla-like 'melt your CPU "mega-base" build', just to hear you vent about some points of the game that irk you.

To work around the pathfinding, you could actually create your own pathfinding solution. Each intersection is spaced on an even grid, so you can resolve the entire path very easily with the ingame computers. You just path the intersections with an A* algorithm, and feed simple moves straight moves to the AI. They still have to pathfind, but it will resolve quickly since it will be all straight lines. Sounds complex but it's actually way simpler than the fleet manager you made!

I'm so amazed by your creativity, and humour. The are only a few creators that are near the level you are

The amount of work you put into these videos is... impressive, and intimidating. and that logi-brain is terrifying.

"It's got trains, and that's way too efficient for any american city I've ever seen" Well, the game is being done in Prague, in the Czech Republic, by a bunch of Czechs (and non-Czechs, but I think the Czechs are still the slight majority :D) ;-)

Instead of having the super brain control everything, what if each depot had a mini brain? If a depot needed iron it would send instructions on how to get there from a set location to a relay which will pick out a vehicle with iron and upload the instructions to said vehicles. Yes this would mean the parking lot would have more than just empty vehicles but it should bring down the complexity of the super brain.

wow. Good premise, dedication, creating something sentient, and I learned about urban heat islands. This video is swellegant

Honestly. Given what I know about cities the bodging things together in ways that don't make expansion the easiest sounds basically spot on for real life. Also damn this is crazy and I love all of it. Thank you.

Your Factorio vids are like Christmas to me (not the 2012 one , we don't talk about the 2012 one )

Looking forward to your 1200 hours pyanodon speedrun

This was super impressive! This video was recommended to me and got me back into factorio!

That was great. Especially loved the little bits of KSP soundtrack in the background.

aa yes. the madness of this mod spreads. I had an similar issue to the 'unknown error' you describe. that is to say, i had an issue when about once every now and then my zone placement function, that replaces zones once an unit is no longer stationed at said zone (long story) when it would send the wrong data out when it recreates the zone. and as i slowly started to loss my mind to this (i thought i was going insane. the issue only showed up sometimes and when it did it happened a lot), after some year and 30 hours of this plaguing me, it was forgetting/slow to delete the replace data from memory, sometimes, very rarely. (it was an delay issue. i don't remember why. think it had something to do with my unit scanning function.) but the issue was eldritch until I managed to catch an save file were i got to watch it happen. then spent hours wondering what the hell was going on. caught it now though. i hope.

Sports

well it's been a couple of your videos already for today, and tonight, tonight is gonna be your channel night, love your videos. Cheers!

watching those trucks come, dock and leave really gets the nostalgia juices flowing for older RTS games like dune 2(000), C&C and red alert. and maybe some outpost 2 for good measure.

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Hey! I love your content (especially the marrow video) and it has made me want to play factorio again! Are there any quality of life or just really nice mods you have used that you would recommend for less experienced players? I want to have an authentic experience, but also have played vanilla before and have had plenty of gripes.

Okay, gotta love the C&C overlay you put on here at 4:50. That brought me back

I really love how you edit your videos, theyre very entertaining.

I think this video alone is enough to earn a degree in both civil engineering and networking simultaneously.

I want this world's seed. It's so beautiful.

Great video ! Found your channel recently and I'm excited to see more

oh man that C&C moment was awesome! just the music makes me happy

Red Alert was the best. Glad it lives on in factorio

Your lag reduction reminded me of how the US imported foreign workers for laboring and ended up killing them when they were done

Nice video, and great work on the logic setup. TBH, the thing that broke my brain the most was when the credits at the end came through upsidedown! 😁

those moving turrets at the beginning and the trucks are amazing, holy cow. i want it yesssssss