What Do We Even Call This Thing? (also CONGRATS Jason!) 

As someone who bought a war gaming table, that "MGT Tool Bar" is exactly what I want

Me being genuinely invested in watching these people develop a table I will never be able to afford

I think the "Tool Bar" thing needs to sit flush with the lip of the table. It being recessed from the lip and having that little drop down removes so much utility that could be had if it "extended" the existing surface out over the playing area. It would even maybe be big enough at that point combining the lip and the bar that it could fit a full size binder laying down for people's character sheets and whatnot. Just my opinion.

4:33 - Doug is absolutely correct. Having a versatile accessory like that is big enough to be a "catchall" is a great idea and needed at D&D games. Most of the other accessories don't account for note taking.

The counter could have card slots and it would be great for MtG.

“MGT Tool bar” has a nice ring to it…

Doug is spot on. General/utilitarian, can do almost anything items, especially bigger, are more useful. As to a name, no fraking clue. Gamer's Wood Extension might sound kind of silly. :P Grats, on the baby Jason. December is the month to be born. ^_^ But um....Gus? Well, there are way worse names, so fair enough.

The big tray could be used to house puzzle pieces while keeping the center of the table free for building the puzzle!

Tracker Module: Don't have horizontal dials at all. Through-cut the piece and mount vertically spinning wheel-style dials on a blind-drilled rod. Have each 'wheel' index magnetically, and they line up sequentially, like a padlock. You get more digits (dials) this way for the same surface area, and it's open to both sides of the tile so it can be flipped without moving any other pieces around.

Love the idea of the “Tool Bar” or “the Shelf”

The trough supports people who already have purchased dice trays and stuff. I don't need/want another tray, I have one. I want space for the stuff i already own

Doug is right! I love the MGT Toolbar! Would purchase.

One of the selling points of the "Tool Bar" would be having that higher back wall. It gives me a surface to bounce dice off of without worrying about them skipping off into the table. If i'm using it for crafts, that higher wall let's me keep more stuff on the Tool Bar and just remove the entire module without having to empty it. It sort of becomes a "Tool Box" instead of a "Tool Bar" at that point. I can just grab the entire box and slap it into my table and i'm ready for whatever craft/game I have stuffed in there.

I agree with Doug, I would get the gaming trough if I had the table. It would be great for players, DMs, and wargames.

In line with the “Game Deck” it could be called the “Game Shelf”

Whoever decided to over edit the part with Dale so that he was thinking for longer, you're a genius, I love it! lmao

The first thing that popped in my head was "the Jack of all Trays" multi purposed 🤷🏻‍♂️ nice episode once again guys!

“The Lair” - a place for your Wyrmlings to stash their hoard.

Talking to the camera is good and natural at this point for many of the folks you film so just do it. If the goal was to make viewers feel as present at the meetings as possible, it is a natural addition.

when you introduced the trough / utility tray.. immediately that was the item out of this set that I wanted to get. definitely what i'm going to be ordering once its available.

Utility tray should b in 2 foot increments so it goes well on the sides

As someone who has yet to lock in my MGT the trough or tool tray or whatever it gets called is 100% going on the top of my list for accessories i will purchase probably over even the player desk

I love how when they're talking about how unclear the trough is for its purpose it's like... Sirs, you are describing a table

Here are some terrible names so you guys can feel better - Trayble Top - MGT Extendinator - MGTMGT (Modular Gaming Table's More Gaming Tray) - The Trench - The Doug Ditch - Flatter Platter - D:\\MGT\Desktop There now whatever you came up with beats the wyrmlings (unless someone made a really good suggestion)

not sure of the dimensions on the Tool Bar, but looks a bit narrow on the video. Suggestions: 1. increase depth to allow enough space (including the table sides) to fit a standard sheet of paper without overhang on the table edge. 2. add accessory rail to the backside edge for further modularity

That tray, if the surface could be brought flush with the table sides would be a fantastic solution to have the extra room for character sheets, and pencils and dice and everything. Absolutely interested in seeing it developed further. Nicer than having to get x number of player desks

If the trough can sit flush with the edges of the table, my instinct is that it's a great spot for my keyboard

The Hobby Tray/Gaming Trough is a BIG WIN, that screams being a standard accessory purchase for EVERYONE because of how useful it is in so many ways. I love when yall just work the problems out like this!

Tray of holding. Junk bunk. Clutter caddy. Kit catcher. Hobby tray. I love this channel so much, happy holidays!

Doug gets me, he really gets me 4:43 I love the giant "MGT Toolbar". Definitely a must have accessory.

Agreed, MGT Tool Bar sounds great. Either that or something like "The MGT Utility Bar", like Batmans Utility Belt. One bar for all your gaming and entertainment needs.

Always enjoy a Dale cameo, where he appears to be the level headed expert in everything.

I agree with Doug about the tray. I immediately went "Oooooo."

The "tool bar" has an interesting value proposition for ttrpgs. Personally, I have always looked at the MGT from a DnD perspective and wondered "where would players/DM's put their stuff, though?" There was a desk accessory that seemed like it could do the job, but this is an interesting g alternative. The biggest thing I'd like to see in these videos, though, is how multiple Tool Bars affect the overall footprint of the table. In the video, just one was substantial in size (part of the attraction), but what happens when a DM and four players are all slapping one on for personal use around the inside of the table? Let's say that's two on a side and one an end. How much "available" table is left for the actual game? What happens if the Tool Bar attaches to the outside instead? Is table accessibility now an issue? Curious to see where this goes!

As Bobby pointed out in the video, that surface is great for neatly laying out and organizing all the pieces for someone dismantling a knife or other creative activities. Wyrmwood already makes Rolling Trays, so clearly this should be called a "Knolling Tray"

Love the concept of the like "utility tray" type piece, I can definitely see myself using it as a way of allowing certain players to have tablets or laptops out along with housing dice, pencils, sheets, spell cards, minis... Really versatile

Watching you guys riffing on table accessories is seriously fucking compelling! I’m fully invested at this point.

So no more stackable dice tower? That’s a shame I was really looking forward to making a huge tower and thought it was a better concept than the current magnetic tower.

RE: the card holder. I think the SHAPE of the old one is phenomenal compared to the new. Why not just eliminate the pivoting aspect, and maybe the connection to the table a bit wider? For the tool shelf accessory, i like it, but my one note is i think it would benefit from being proud of, or flush with the tables' armrest. If it dips down, that edge becomes an obstacle to work around when actually using it to write in, work on, etc.

As soon as Doug mentioned quilting I could suddenly see so many more uses for the ‘trough’, like puzzle piece sorting and sewing or painting tools. Expanding out of gaming uses is a great idea and I loved the name hobby tray.

I love that Bennett has a well thought out reasonable answer for every question Doug asks. He's stellar!

Given how players store things on it and look over it to see the game or “battlefield”, I think it should be called the *Player Rampart* .

I have gotten so much better at communicating in my business just by watching you guys brainstorm in these videos. Thank you guys for being willing to show the process

As a fellow business owner it is great to watch working through problem solving. Great communication and more importantly listening skills on your team.

as a factory worker, I am so glad to see you consulting the guys who will have to build stuff when you need to. far too often places fail to consider ease of manufacture in there product designs.

the long cut of repeated clips of dale turning over the trough is so good

my heart breaks for bennet when you nixed the tower after all his work- thats the design life tho

That tower looks great and has an interesting purpose, to turn and roll into various table accessories, but to me, it doesn't seem like a Wyrmwood product. If it was stand-alone, like the other tower, and still able to add more height, I think it could be great.

Loved watching Dale running the production possibilities thru in his head and you could tell he was already considering what problems the machine would give him with such tight tolerances : )

Not all that into RPG and tabletops (although I want to get into more of them in the future) but development of game tables like this has peaked my interest in recent months. But, as a product designer myself, I loooooooove watching others work through the creative process and how ideas turn from concepts to final products. Keep this content up, its really compelling.

I think with the “hobby tray” it could definitely have steps milled into a single piece of lumber, like what they were talking about at the very end of the video. However, one thing I would look into would be two steps of milling so it has the tongue to hook into the accessory rail, the shelf itself would be flush with the top of the edge to maximize usable real estate, which could also minimize the amount hangin over the game space. And the magnetic sides could hook over the table edge and extend all the way to the outer edge of the table.

I'd call it the BFT(Big F*cking Tray)

Hey guys, A+ on your brainstorming process. You work well together. Now I'm going to look at your whole product line, because I know you put a lot of thought into developing it.

I’d buy one just to have a extended surface to place manuals, instead of draping off the rails.

The word "Pocket" comes to mind when I look at the trough. If you're going to make it more specific to gamers, you could call it the Modular Gaming Pocket (MGP). If you're going with a generic/everything utilization, you could call it the Hobby Pocket. Hobbiest Pocket or Hobbiest Hole could work too. Hobbiest Nook Gamers Hollow Modular Gaming Hollow (MGH)

Grats Jason and grats Gus on being born. Big win!

I think Bobby hit the name first shot; The MGT Toolbar, or something along those lines. You can use it as a general wide tabletop surface, whether you're a DM wanting a open platform, or you're a player with lot of individual components. A reason to keep the back lip higher might be to explore the option of allowing other MGT modules to clip on, facing whomever is using it; if you don't need to use all of the space, you can attach the specialized modules, facing you. That doubles the name "Toolbar"; you can add whatever apps/widgets to a computer toolbar, or leave it blank.

I’m sure I’m not the only one who was checking out the wood in the background and dreaming of things you could do with it if you had access to their shop. Also memories came back to when I got to rearrange the stock shelving in our shop, it’s identical to WW’s stock shelves

The large tool tray should have the outside engraved like a stone castle, so when you add the dice tower it looks like a full on keep.

Just binged watched all 9 seasons of Wyrmlife. I’m a bit sad now that I have to wait for episodes lol anyways keep up the great content guys. Merry Christmas! 🎅🏼

I'd like to point out that even people who get a MGT would probably keep the toppers on for non-gaming related things rather than getting an additional toolbar. For gaming purposes it is kind of competing with the player desk system you already have.

I like the "Table Trough". It's like the "Game Deck" for players instead of the DM. The "Game Deck" provides enough room for the DM screen and all their DM supplies while the, what I'll call the "Game Deck Mini", provides the room needed by players for their dice tray, towers, reference books, and note taking.

That "ding" was ADORABLE!

That Dale sequence at the end was so well played. I went on that journey.

The love the game trough, even the name. As a GM especially, it's always better to have large, flat areas that are reasonably hidden from players. I think a card line along the top would be great. You could display stuff on index cards like character names, initiative order, etc.

I like Bobby's suggested change to the craft utility tray. When Doug was extolling it's uses I was sitting there going "yeah it's useful but it's way to tall, it will get in the way of accessing the table surface". Cut it down to about a lip that's about the width of a pencil and it will do everything you need it to do, without getting more in the way of actually using the table.

Congrats, Jason! I agree with Doug, having something utilitarian and versatile just makes sense.

Alwyas loved this segment because you have Doug a family guy vs Bobby & Jason without children trying to figure out something meant more for anyone thats not them

Doug is 100% on the long tray, my wife and i were both all about that to go with our Liliput. Shes a Knitter and instantly came up with a ton of ideas for it, and told me a few uses for myself too, i would absolutely get that if it went into production

I don't even own a WW table and the tray thing is an awesome idea. Especially its ability to snap on the outside edge of the table. That gives you a perfect place for decks and resources that clutter the play area. Perfect place for snacks as well!

uuuuh nice. very happy to see another designing process. really love them.

The large tray is nice but it feels like it's its own system in the making. You can have slots for coasters, a slot for cards, slots for containers for game bits, displays for miniatures, etc. I'd definitely love to see the next form of that shelf but it does feel like something "different" from the curved accessories.

Doug is 1000% correct about that gamer trough. I would LOVE that thing.

The Hobby Trough would be great for DMs who might want to put up a DM screen or something and have space for minis and things.

tool bar is awesome, i like that it fits the player desk. It would also be a great mounting place for a DM screen instead of having to use the game deck or topper section. get all that stuff up out of the way so large maps can just be under it

I think Bobby nailed it twice there. One solid piece and calling it the tool bar is great. Maybe you can even sell felt / leather inserts that fit the inner area

I want the trough

I dont own a gaming table or any wyrmwood products (yet), but the moment that tool table came out, all I could think about is the number of artists who would probably appreciate a proper surface area for them to draw while they play.

I love seeing the business development side of things. When Doug flipped over the dial tray it made me think "oh man, that would be badass if one accessory had two features depending on the orientation." Considering modularity, I think that would be a compelling idea that would both reduce the number of individualized items for yall to create while giving the customer a great sense of value. Why not have the divet tray on one side and a cardholder on the other? I love all the unique ideas for accessories, but as Jason said, some of them are competing with other products or solving a problem that doesn't exist. I think the reverse side of the accessories is something that should be considered as usable space as well.

So just got my Thief vault and tray, just wanted to say thanks to Wyrmwood and specifically DS and Jones as those are the names on the boxes, they turned out great, can't wait to put them through the paces over the holidays.

Ya know what would be cool to go along with the Gaming Trough piece? Painting Minis and using that to hold my paint pots, brushes water cup etc.

idea maybe: put a hole in that gaming trough, with a slanted ramp on the underside pointed to the middle of the table, , make the dice fall out of the bottom of the tower and through the trough onto the ramp that shoots the dice onto the table? Just throwing ideas out

I LOVE the trough idea, the versatility seems amazing.

Thank your for giving your employee enough time to write his note about what you wanted him to do. Not enough people do that…

Congratulations on the new baby!

Everything Doug is pitching on the MGT accessories is all worth buying. The big add on could be used by people coming over and having their own dice trays, laptops, and dice towers to use while playing D&D. I can also see a DM using that in collab with the corner dice tray and swivel dice tower. That way a DM can have his dice off to the side and roll without having it all over his notes and paper work.

When I ordered my table I thought the player desks were too big for my use, and hard to get to play table for shorter players/kids. I was thinking of making something exactly like that trough. That's exactly the accessory I'm looking for. It also should have card slots, a few accessory cut outs, pen slot, etc. And maybe an accessory slot on the outside so it could set into the inside rail and then still have another tray or accessory on the outside. I wonder if that is too much torque to support. Very interesting, but with or without rail, that's what I'm looking for.

My immediate reaction to seeing the second gaming trough presented was "that is fantastic and if I had that table that is exactly the add on that I would want"

I swear I LOVE the editing on this show lololol!!!

Like the idea of Wyrmwood Work Tray (Shelf) but (as its modular) lessen the width. In a similar thought to the hex tray holder, could you have shelves that are themselves modular and have ends. Also mean you could introduce different types etc.

The board of holding (I know it'd never happen but it amuses me.)

This trough is amazing!!!!! I love the versatility of it!!!

That shot of Dale looking over the Utility tray was absolutely gold

Corner clip for the Hex Tower! 5:20 Role straight out onto the table, or into a tray. No cluncky attachment plate or space lost on the inner rail, but still retains stability. (The Corner can be sketchy without anything holding it.) Probably clips on to the outside rail somehow to not interfere with the corner tray. Just a thought that came to mind.

That bit with Dale is hilarious 😂

By the end of the weekend, I will have watched every single Wyrmlife video, and I started watching them 2 or so weeks ago (I think). Why do you ask? Well I started hoping to see a video on how Wyrmwood deals with wood movement, as it is the bane of my existence (new to woodworking), stayed because of Bobby, Doug, and Jason.

I like something like MGT Utility Tray. Calling it a Toolbar starts to give a connotation of what it's for, when its more versatile than just tools. Also, as someone who didn't buy the other modular accessories, I appreciate the non-funky shaped cup holders!

The spinning tray works well for people with mobility issues. It may not be a big seller, but I think it is an important part of your catalog.

Anything wargaming will love the hobby shelf thingy. Definitely will be buying those. Stat cards or extra models. It will be a must.

I feel like the accessories for the MGT are trying to make them like regular tables. Like extra space, a place for a cup etc. I feel like a raised platform that goes on top of a table solve most of the problems. But IDK I'm not a table designer (I love the show btw, keep up the good work everyone! Hope y'all have a Merry Christmas!)