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What if the Twin Towers were hit at night? 

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Discussing the Twin Towers in September 11, 2001

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@vietnamesesmerf508
@vietnamesesmerf508 6 месяцев назад
The fact that this video is exactly 9 minutes and 11 seconds long is amazing
@PraveenSriram
@PraveenSriram 6 месяцев назад
That is exactly what I was thinking
@Stickyybenzz
@Stickyybenzz 6 месяцев назад
9:10
@planetX15
@planetX15 5 месяцев назад
​@Stickyybenzz Yes for me too, but there is another video of Gingers that is 9:11
@Dosai99
@Dosai99 Месяц назад
It depends on the device. It’s like that for all RU-vid videos
@ReddestFoxx
@ReddestFoxx 23 дня назад
yeah
@EllieOscar
@EllieOscar 25 дней назад
I love how the video is 9 minutes and 11 seconds
@loganmcconnell1493
@loganmcconnell1493 21 день назад
9 minutes and 10
@EllieOscar
@EllieOscar 21 день назад
@@loganmcconnell1493 the thumbnail said 11
@HelperBot
@HelperBot 21 день назад
only reason i clicked this video lol
@Pupptart69lolz
@Pupptart69lolz 20 дней назад
​@@HelperBot23 hours ago? isnt that the same amount of years it happened ago-
@Random_Username001
@Random_Username001 19 дней назад
@@Pupptart69lolzya, and it’s 23 hours for me
@ir8free
@ir8free 6 месяцев назад
1. The power outages from the impact zones upward would be publicly visible. 2. The fires would be more visible, whereas the long cloud of smoke would be less. 3. Less occupants in the evening would mean less casualties.
@terrrell7798
@terrrell7798 6 месяцев назад
Depending on the time. Most offices, or all, would've been empty. Only areas that would've been occupied would've been Observation Deck on South Tower and Windows of the World in the North.
@aaronscarpa7469
@aaronscarpa7469 6 месяцев назад
Number 3 is why this is a purely hypothetical question.
@tomr6955
@tomr6955 6 месяцев назад
One question I cannot get an answer to: Why didn't they attack in the middle of the day when there were many X more occupants?
@Frankje01
@Frankje01 6 месяцев назад
@@tomr6955 in the end I dont think the terrorists really cared about max casualties, I think the wanted to create max terror/chaos, most excess deaths will be above the oimpact zone and since you are striking the towers pretty high, this isnt going to cause that many extra deaths. I am not a terrorrist (lol obv) but factors like how busy it is at the airport also is a factor, how security acts is a factor (are they a bit more easy going early in the morning f.e.)
@eaglevision993
@eaglevision993 6 месяцев назад
@@Frankje01 They attacked in the morning to cause a worldwide impact. Casualties were not that important. Also, they never expected the buildings to collapse. 8 AM in NY means afternoon in Europe and 10PM in Asia. It is the time, most people are awake worldwide and be witnesses. They just chose the worldwide prime time TV slot.
@TophDaGreat
@TophDaGreat 28 дней назад
First thing I thought of would be the jumpers. What they did was tragic and scary enough, but imaging jumping into a void of darkness. Stuff of nightmares.
@jamescooper3324
@jamescooper3324 21 день назад
Nobody would be there at night. Nobody there to jump.
@WindowsDrawer
@WindowsDrawer 20 дней назад
@@jamescooper3324 Not nobody, I imagine jumping almost alone when most of the building is empty is even scarier
@aldairreynoso2564
@aldairreynoso2564 18 дней назад
Much less casualties and for the worlds sake little to no jumper footage.
@stevenroshni1228
@stevenroshni1228 17 дней назад
@@jamescooper3324 I guess nobody would know that I'm up there doing homework for my evening college classes
@Ericg0027
@Ericg0027 15 дней назад
@@jamescooper3324A building of that size would have a significant amount of security and maintenance personnel. Also, this was a financial building, and if you’re familiar with professions like investment banking, they’ll often pull 100 hour weeks. There would definitely be some finance employees still working.
@adanalyst6925
@adanalyst6925 6 месяцев назад
Less people dead, but it might have been a scarier event in some ways. Phone lines overload with people telling each other to wake up and watch the news
@drew388
@drew388 6 месяцев назад
then the zombies. not a good night for anyone. hopefully you still have enough light to not trip right in front of a 1 eyed zombie with blood running down his eye sockit
@railfandepotproductions
@railfandepotproductions 6 месяцев назад
​@@drew388wut?
@RstIsCool
@RstIsCool 25 дней назад
@@drew388what is bro yapping about
@Jwellsuhhuh
@Jwellsuhhuh 24 дня назад
No one’s asleep at 9pm in nyc lol
@adanalyst6925
@adanalyst6925 23 дня назад
@@Jwellsuhhuh I was thinking more like 2am ET
@stargate1552
@stargate1552 6 месяцев назад
It actually could have happened at night, but not in the way youd expect. In 1981, 20 years prior, a 707 was flying from South America to New York, it was a dark and foggy night, possibly moonless. Someone from ATC realized that the pilots misunderstood directions and were on a direct collision with one of the towers, going their altitude was a scary 1,500 (and decreasing) They immediately told them to turn around, to get to JFK airport and barely landed safely
@CorrectShark_
@CorrectShark_ 25 дней назад
Damn. Cant release the live event too early. Nice save from the developers
@stevenroshni1228
@stevenroshni1228 21 день назад
Smaller plane, less fuel, the Towers probably wouldn't have collapsed. Also an accident
@Soviet_kai_mapping
@Soviet_kai_mapping 18 дней назад
@@CorrectShark_ LOL
@spdracr
@spdracr 14 дней назад
@@CorrectShark_ NAHHH BRO YOU CANT SAY THAT 💀💀💀💀💀💀
@CorrectShark_
@CorrectShark_ 14 дней назад
@@spdracr ? they cancelled the live event from premiering early whats wrong with that . Never Forget the hard work developers put into making updates!
@i-love-carlyshay5365
@i-love-carlyshay5365 6 месяцев назад
What if the twin towers where hit in a storm
@ErikCB912
@ErikCB912 6 месяцев назад
He already talked about the hurricane
@i-love-carlyshay5365
@i-love-carlyshay5365 6 месяцев назад
@@ErikCB912with rain without winds
@btappan88
@btappan88 6 месяцев назад
@@i-love-carlyshay5365they flew the planes visually so probably would have been unsuccessful, no landmarks to see in the rain.
@allusernamesweretaken
@allusernamesweretaken 6 месяцев назад
@@i-love-carlyshay5365probably wouldve hit another building due to poor visibility
@Kaniela-xq8vl
@Kaniela-xq8vl 6 месяцев назад
“Where”??? 😒😳
@joeshiesty1914
@joeshiesty1914 6 месяцев назад
Ok now you’re making them all 9 minutes and 11 seconds aren’t you?
@lotstodo
@lotstodo 28 дней назад
Mine is 9 mins 10 seconds.
@SICK789
@SICK789 26 дней назад
@@lotstodosame
@Zipist
@Zipist 25 дней назад
@@lotstodothats because before you click on the video it says the real time of the video but when you click on it its always -1 seconds
@SICK789
@SICK789 25 дней назад
@@Zipist ok
@thisguylikestoRAILFAN
@thisguylikestoRAILFAN 24 дня назад
​@@lotstodosame
@timnoel511
@timnoel511 6 месяцев назад
You completely left out the night time cleaning crew. They would have all lost their lives. That very thing happened during The First Interstate Tower fire in Los Angeles that occurred on May 4, 1988. It happened at night so most of the employees were gone for the night, but the entire night cleaning crew was there and suffered.
@PraveenSriram
@PraveenSriram 6 месяцев назад
That would be really scary and sad 😞
@noodengr3three825
@noodengr3three825 28 дней назад
Plus the restaurant Windows on the World staff and guests and visitors to the observation deck.
@_LovelyJisoo_
@_LovelyJisoo_ День назад
On my birthday 😞🤧
@sharpitar6674
@sharpitar6674 6 месяцев назад
I think the terrorists for sure wanted it to be day when it happened, because: 1) They wanted as many casualties as possible 2) They wanted this to be visible for everyone, they wanted those exact optics of planes coming out of the blue sky and the dark smoke clouds and the collapses
@davemustaki134
@davemustaki134 6 месяцев назад
They knew what they wanted to do the bastards! Ended up ruining the world that day
@tbc9096
@tbc9096 6 месяцев назад
And they knew they’d have better visibility of piloting the planes into the towers
@sharpitar6674
@sharpitar6674 6 месяцев назад
@@tbc9096 I distinctly remember one documentary stating that the Flight 11 Terrorists followed the Hudson River
@tbc9096
@tbc9096 6 месяцев назад
@@sharpitar6674 True. But daytime visibility makes the towers easier to see. At night the two buildings might’ve blended in more from the human eye.
@KegOfMeat
@KegOfMeat 3 месяца назад
The day couldn’t have been any more clearer for them.
@rentslave
@rentslave 6 месяцев назад
There's another topic that could be discussed:What if you could time travel to Sept.10th? How would you attempt to stop the hijackers? Would you phone in bomb scares to all of the airlines,telling them the flight numbers,and for whom to look out?Would you go to that lounge near Newark Airport to start a fight with the hijackers,hoping that you'll all be arrested and the plan would be called off?
@Greenie007
@Greenie007 6 месяцев назад
Funny you mention this scenario. I came up with a treatment for a script years ago called Groundhog Day: 9/11 (ok, bad title - it was a working title) but the idea is that someone in PA wakes up every day at 6 am and it's 9/11 and they are 2 hours from Manhattan. They have to keep trying - with very limited time - to try and save as many people as possible with frustrating results in each attempt. I like your idea though- maybe the protagonist could wake up the day before and have time to even stop the planes from being hijacked?
@tomr6955
@tomr6955 6 месяцев назад
I highly doubt they are going to ground all planes just from some phoned in scares.
@marleyrobinson483
@marleyrobinson483 6 месяцев назад
as messed up as it sounds, i wouldn’t stop it. playing with time is very dangerous and you would have no idea how the present day would change from altering something in the past. it could be better, but it could also be much worse, not worth the risk.
@tomr6955
@tomr6955 6 месяцев назад
@@marleyrobinson483 For real though? Are you saying that given the chance, you wouldn't time travel back to 1935 Germany?
@marleyrobinson483
@marleyrobinson483 6 месяцев назад
@@tomr6955 if i did, i wouldn’t change anything. but i wouldn’t even go at all. just me being there could affect the future. however, we don’t exactly know how time works since we can’t time travel. all of what i’ve said is assuming that time isn’t set, that things could be changed. the other theory is that time IS set, and if i happened to go back in time to germany in 1935, whatever efforts i made already happened. if time is set, you can’t change anything, since whatever you did has already occurred. so either way, you either drastically change the future, which could have terrible outcomes, or you can’t change anything at all. what the nazis did is absolutely terrible, but the only thing we can do now is keep the victims in our thoughts
@toxdazcubing
@toxdazcubing 6 месяцев назад
THE VIDEO LENGTH NAHHH
@mattplays3824
@mattplays3824 15 дней назад
9:10? i mean it's close but, not exactly 9/11
@KeyFChicken
@KeyFChicken 14 дней назад
@@mattplays3824the thumbnail says 9:11 length
@cubby091398
@cubby091398 6 месяцев назад
Had the towers been hit 1 or 2 hours later and the planes had hit the towers at like the 57th floor, the death toll would have likely been 10 times higher. The North Tower was hit between the 93rd and 99th floors and the South Tower hit between the 77th and 85th floors. Had both towers had been hit at the same time slicing from say the 57th and 63rd floor that would have likely severed all the stairwells from the 56th floor upward. That would mean that most people in each building would have been trapped. Adding 1 or 2 hours later would have made things even worse.
@AbeIsLincoln
@AbeIsLincoln 6 месяцев назад
For sure. Also a lot of people werent at work yet because they were voting that morning too. I remember hearing somewhere that the terrorist thought the towers would topple over on impact, that is why they hit the north tower so high. Basically in an attempt to push it over from the top, causing city blocks worth of instant catastrophic damage. And that is why when the 2nd plane came in and saw the north tower still standing they decided to hit the south tower lower and fast. I like to think the 2nd planes terrorist thought that they failed once again at bringing the towers down after seeing the north still standing before they died. That wouldve been crazy and wouldve caused even more mass confusion if the north tower immediately fell over or collapsed on impact and wouldve caused way more casualties. Its impressive how well the buildings took the initial impact and stood for so long. This video gives a good visual of how hard the building was hit if you watch how bad it sways from the impact. Took that hit like a champ. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Qk5NQgU-9G4.htmlsi=Y5P0cVoRQAhJgEzO
@calebsewell2841
@calebsewell2841 6 месяцев назад
Plus collapse times being closer together and quicker given lower hits equals more weight.
@cubby091398
@cubby091398 6 месяцев назад
@@calebsewell2841 The collapse time probably would have been 30 to 45 minutes for both towers.
@KegOfMeat
@KegOfMeat 3 месяца назад
Yeah If the planes had hit at the time the towers actually fell the death toll would have been even higher. According to Wikipedia atypical weekday had an estimated 50,000 people working in the complex with 140,000 visitors passing through. I think the death toll would have exceed the 10K mark if it was later. If it was lower too, a hell of a lot more people would have jumped too. Thank god it wasn’t though.
@Haterkilla4717
@Haterkilla4717 24 дня назад
Yes that’s correct (my opinion carries weight)
@serpent6827
@serpent6827 6 месяцев назад
The explosions from the impacts would surely be more visible especially with the 2nd impact, and it would definitely be harder to see the planes except for the blinking lights and the sound of the engines and I imagine some people on the outside would think that a bomb went off in the buildings instead of a plane hitting them. As you were saying about the collapse, I agree that it would be scarier at night because the dust cloud could possibly look like some fast approaching black mass covering the streets but as you said, most likely less casualties.
@RabidWildCreature
@RabidWildCreature 6 месяцев назад
Oh god the plane image in my head is terrifying
@willhemmings
@willhemmings 6 месяцев назад
What if the towers had been hit at night? Official report states - 'Besides the passengers and crew of the aircraft involved, the dead are confirmed as sixteen janitors, eight security guards, four policemen, three businessmen and two secretaries. An aquarium containing tropical fish is also believed to have been destroyed'
@chadgaming8288
@chadgaming8288 6 месяцев назад
I asked this question to a friend of mine, and he said, “That would be scary. You would just see fire.”
@itzamia
@itzamia 6 месяцев назад
@2:06 If you look to the left, you see the dark brown wall. Those divider walls fold out to make a private room, or can be pushed back all the way and open the room up. Most places that have those have a lot of space to work with. You can host a private wedding party, or company party etc. with DJ's and a private bar in that closed off area of the restaurant, and the rest of the regular dining area wouldn't even know or hear what's going on behind the wall. At least not until the door briefly opens. We have these at the Casino I work at. We turned a huge ball room into 6 smaller rooms with the dividers, all had their own DJ's and private Banquet dinners brought in, each room was about 20 feet from the next. That shows just how massive Windows on the World Restaurant was up there.
@minecraftshipbuilder
@minecraftshipbuilder 6 месяцев назад
Cool
@tracy3418
@tracy3418 6 месяцев назад
How many people would typically be there on a night at one time?
@lotstodo
@lotstodo 28 дней назад
Don't think there would be a wedding reception on a Tuesday.
@itzamia
@itzamia 28 дней назад
@@lotstodo It's just an example.
@lotstodo
@lotstodo 28 дней назад
@itzamia ahhh. It would have been horrible. Maybe that artist who spent the night in his studio would have got out in time.
@briana_patrick
@briana_patrick 6 месяцев назад
I'm loving these videos. Keep it up!! Such an interesting topic. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
@terrrell7798
@terrrell7798 6 месяцев назад
I had a dream me and a team of time travelers stopped 9/11 or we thought we did. We stopped the attacks during the day. Then the attacks later happened that early evening at sunset. We were mad.. One of the time travelers (a woman) said to me, maybe it was meant to be..
@seankingwell3692
@seankingwell3692 Месяц назад
dreams are always better then the movies
@jnl7196
@jnl7196 25 дней назад
they sent backups damn
@TFIta369
@TFIta369 19 дней назад
The attacks happening at sunset would also look very impactful!
@MajinBuu-oo3vn
@MajinBuu-oo3vn 11 дней назад
That sounds too vivid to be a dream. In my dreams I can’t even remain in the same place I just teleport somewhere else and other random nonsense.
@xavierramirez1911
@xavierramirez1911 4 дня назад
makes sense ngl. if the initial 9/11 had been averted, the terrorists probably already had backup hijackers. there’s no way they planned for it to go down in one attempt
@zonic26
@zonic26 Месяц назад
It was actually late at night here in Australia when the actual attack happened, it was the following morning September 12 our time when it was still technically 9/11 at night where we started seeing repeated footage of the attacks as well as the aftermath at the time
@CollectorTyrant
@CollectorTyrant 27 дней назад
Yeah my birthday is September 10, I remember I got a video game for my N64 as a present ,and woke up in the morning to play it early for a hour before I'd turn Cheez Tv on (if you don't know all ready that was a cartoon network that ran from 1994 -2004) then go to school, I walked into the living room and saw my mum scared looking at the TV, this was in the morning of the night you mentioned. I knew what the towers where I was actually fond of them , I did a school project on them a few years before, and love seeing them in movies (Godzilla, home alone 2) and video games (tekken 2, Driver) and tv shows (Simpsons,Friends) etc my first time seeing them was on Sesame Street and crocodile dundee, people don't realise how much of a icon they where . As a young Australian kid I'll always remember where I was watching those towers fall and how I wish they were still in NYC,I plan to go to the memorial on day, I'm no New Yorker ( obviously affected the worse) or an American, but I think we all lost abit of ourselves that day and the world has never been the same since.
@zonic26
@zonic26 27 дней назад
@@CollectorTyrant Yes actually I had started watching Cheez TV when I was 6 years old which was 2 years prior to that, I was 8 years old when 9/11 happened, I turned the TV to what would normally have been that on the morning of September 12th our time and what was actually on was I saw the live footage of the wreckage at night which was still that same day their time, having to see nothing but the repetitive footage that day traumatised me as a kid, but as much as it did New York has been the US city I've been interested in the most, I started learning more things about it, even prior to 9/11 I had seen Men In Black quite a few times and that movie included shots of the World Trade Centre
@Kev27RS
@Kev27RS 6 месяцев назад
The reason it didn’t happen at night, is because more people would witness it live worldwide. It was around 5 in the morning on the west coast. Around 14 in the afternoon in Europe and around 22 in the evening in Asia. So when the attacks happened, almost everyone was awake worldwide!
@johnpersechini4951
@johnpersechini4951 6 месяцев назад
The point of the attacks were to instill fear and achieve mass casualties. Not a lot of people would be in the buildings at night so it would largely defeat the purpose I think.
@agthegoat26
@agthegoat26 6 месяцев назад
My initial reaction is that more people would be able to witness it live especially on the west coast considering that the planes crashed at 5:30ish am in the west coast. I remember waking at my set time for school and turning on the tv before heading out. Most people are still asleep at 5:30 am in general.
@Markjw25
@Markjw25 6 месяцев назад
Yeah it was all over when I woke up for school here on the west coast.
@Kev27RS
@Kev27RS 6 месяцев назад
Yes. It was around 5 in the morning on the west coast. Around 14 in the afternoon in Europe and around 22 in the evening in Asia. So, when the attacks happened, almost everyone was awake worldwide!
@agthegoat26
@agthegoat26 6 месяцев назад
@@Kev27RS I get that. I said at 5:30 in the morning in general people are usually asleep. Regardless of where you live, whether that’s 5:30am in Argentina, 5:30am in Japan, or 5:30am in Manila, people are asleep at that time. Of course it will be later or earlier in different parts of the world. I didn’t say people were asleep worldwide when it happened.
@Kev27RS
@Kev27RS 6 месяцев назад
@@agthegoat26 I know. I was just pointing out the different time zones when it happened.
@stevenroshni1228
@stevenroshni1228 17 дней назад
@@agthegoat26 you can't get the perfect timing for worldwide but 6:03am West Coast to 11pm Australia is about as close as you can get the next time you are king of the world and want to time a speech so that you subjects can watch it
@Jsp4609
@Jsp4609 6 месяцев назад
Please keep these coming! Your September 11th videos are fascinating. Thanks!
@ryansdailymemes5972
@ryansdailymemes5972 6 месяцев назад
Notice almost all of his 9/11 videos are 9:11 long.
@TaeSunWoo
@TaeSunWoo 6 месяцев назад
He gives us good info on this and titanic
@PraveenSriram
@PraveenSriram 6 месяцев назад
@@ryansdailymemes5972I didn’t know that. That is very interesting 🤨
@toddkurzbard
@toddkurzbard 6 месяцев назад
What would have happened? EVERYONE would have died. At LEAST during the actual event those inside would have had natural light to attempt an escape. A nighttime attack would have plunged both towers into complete darkness, making escape virtually impossible.
@Foxy02016
@Foxy02016 18 дней назад
If it happened at night, Seth MacFarland would be dead, one of my teachers would’ve been dead. Anyone who missed their flight and had to get a later flight likely would’ve died
@_Phantom015_
@_Phantom015_ 11 дней назад
Micheal Jackson would have died sooner
@Greenie007
@Greenie007 6 месяцев назад
I must admit, I do enjoy your videos and "what if" scenarios. I worked in the Baltimore World Trade Center on the 26th floor at the time 9/11 happened and there was so much confusion going on, even just after the 1st tower in NY was hit. We kind of leaned towards terrorism and not an accident even then. I have a short documentary on RU-vid that describes what it was like to be in our WTC that day. They shut our building down for a week at which I was glued to the TV at home watching the events unfold. When I went back to work, our building was protected all around to stop attacks from land and sea (since our WTC is right on the harbor). Nothing could protect it by air though... Love your videos though- this is a deep topic to me.
@stevenmaginnis1965
@stevenmaginnis1965 6 месяцев назад
I was in Baltimore in October 2001. The Baltimore World Trade Center - which I remember being five-sided, like the Pentagon - was still closed.
@Greenie007
@Greenie007 6 месяцев назад
@@stevenmaginnis1965 It was closed to the public most likely. It opened for businesses and employees the following week after 9/11. We all had to get photo badges made so security knew we worked there. I believe in my 9/11 documentary I show a brief news mention that it had reopened to employees but remained closed to the public.
@martinbrody3315
@martinbrody3315 6 месяцев назад
What if on 9/11 only ONE plane was hijacked and hit the Twin Towers? Would people think it was an accident?
@kyle381000
@kyle381000 6 месяцев назад
No, the truth would come out fairly soon, especially after the Pentagon was hit at almost the same time.
@JP-uu2rw
@JP-uu2rw 6 месяцев назад
what if one of the pilots was a cross dresser?
@Nancy2420s
@Nancy2420s 6 месяцев назад
It was not an accident it was done by our own Government
@kushclarkkent6669
@kushclarkkent6669 6 месяцев назад
@@JP-uu2rw lmao
@martinbrody3315
@martinbrody3315 6 месяцев назад
@@kyle381000 What I meant to say was what if on 9/11 only the first plane hit the tower, not the other three hijacked planes, just one hijacked plane on that day. Could the firemen save a lot more people? Would the North tower still collapse? Could it be possible for the people in the South Tower to be evacuated sooner? Would people think that it was an accident? These are the questions I want answered.
@nathanbritt5515
@nathanbritt5515 6 месяцев назад
There'd probably be more casualties in the Marriott tho, people getting woken up in their bedrooms, not knowing whether or not they should evacuate
@bradyryan5105
@bradyryan5105 6 месяцев назад
The antenna on top of 1WTC had just stopped blinking a few hours before, but after the impact of flight 11, it starting blinking again as a distress signal. It stopped blinking about 5 minutes before the collapse.
@ir8free
@ir8free 6 месяцев назад
During the actual daytime attack, the light at the apex of the telecom mast of 1WTC visibly continued to flash white between the impacts.
@terrrell7798
@terrrell7798 6 месяцев назад
at night it blinked red. During 9/11 it stopped blinking closer to the collapse of the North Tower.
@ir8free
@ir8free 6 месяцев назад
@@terrrell7798 I like how the rooftop lights on both towers pulsated red at night to warn any approaching aircraft. I wonder what exact time the mast stopped flashing the white light. Was it during the intercollapse period?
@Chris-55
@Chris-55 6 месяцев назад
It would look so much scarier, seeing the fire clearly and the power of the towers going out
@jondobson
@jondobson 6 месяцев назад
You make really good twin towers videos. Great work.👍
@Xantylon74
@Xantylon74 6 месяцев назад
New Skyscrapers have also columns, but thy are behind the glass. Those exposed colums had a special look and those buildings were realy nice especially from the outtside.
@vamoscruceros
@vamoscruceros 6 месяцев назад
Multiple TV stations broadcast from that tower. The FCC actually licensed replacement facilities for them by the afternoon, a process that normally takes months or years. That may not have happened had the attacks happened at night.
@gavinproduction7433
@gavinproduction7433 6 месяцев назад
Yes only backup transmitter is like WXTV Univision and WCBS CBS were able to stay on the air. Because of the Empire State Buildings.
@something2sea
@something2sea 6 месяцев назад
This is an interesting angle that is often overlooked… the scramble that needed to happen in the 'infrastructure' world (cell towers, television broadcast, etc) as soon as the towers were hit to restore coverage to the rest of Manhattan.
@danielmcguire3483
@danielmcguire3483 6 месяцев назад
Love the content enjoy learning from ur vids man
@toddkurzbard
@toddkurzbard 6 месяцев назад
P.S. I remember the news coverage that evening, and the one thing that sticks in my memory the most, was the footage of what remained of the towers, with the orange glows of the fires, against the night sky It looked to me like the fires of Hell. Even the tragic events of the day to me paled before that absolutely ghastly, horrific image, so traumatic to me that even all these years later, I can't forget it.
@pollarddisposal
@pollarddisposal 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for covering this 👍🏻👍🏻
@dylanchadderton1
@dylanchadderton1 6 месяцев назад
Can you do a video on the elevators on 9/11? I always thought about that idea of the cables getting severed when the planes hits, people in the elevators, the elevators free falling and crashing down into the lobby etc. I think that would be interesting.
@ajmillendez478
@ajmillendez478 6 месяцев назад
Good what if scenario, yikes I don't even know what happened to the main elevators, when the elevator below the impact zone, would the elevator fall to the lobby?
@xdani_thethinkingneko
@xdani_thethinkingneko 16 дней назад
"Of the 15,000 civilians who were underneath the impact zones, all but about 100 were able to evacuate successfully. Some of those 100 were trapped in stalled elevators. One group in an elevator managed to force the doors open, but then found they were faced with a sheetrock wall. A window washer on board offered his squeegee as a tool to carve a hole in the sheetrock, and they escaped. Others were not so lucky. On 9/11, the elevator systems in the twin towers had been undergoing a major elevator renovations project all year. Among the improvements were the installation of interlock devices on the elevator doors that prevented passengers from forcing the doors from inside. More than 80 elevator mechanics gathered in the lobby, and though they knew people were trapped by the interlocks, they chose to run away rather than go upstairs and help. Only one elevator mechanic died on 9/11. He was from another elevator company (Otis) and he just happened to be in the area, and he went to do what he could to help. Elevator mechanics normally have a culture of public service and rescue operations, so the behavior of these workers was quite scandalous. USA Today ran a two-part article. The contractor on the job, Ace Elevator, went out of business" When I saw your comment, I went to Google it. As I had never thought about the fact that people were probably trapped in the elevators. It's even worse, because of the fact that they had just updated them. These people literally couldn't get out.... I found this comment on quora,so take it with a grain of salt but other articles said the same thing.
@xdani_thethinkingneko
@xdani_thethinkingneko 16 дней назад
Found this too 😢 "a lot of people were trapped. Here’s a quick list SOUTH TOWER: Cindy Guan and Michelle Scarpitta were going to their offices when their elevators got stuck on the 12th floor when flight 175 hit the South Tower. Both women weren’t at work yet when flight 11 hit WTC 1, but they were allowed in regardless. They called family and it’s believed that they were with other people. They sadly weren’t rescued in time. Alan Mann, Donna Giordano, and Alan Friedlander were in an elevator that was on the 78th floor when flight 175 hit their floor. The elevator plummeted, but the emergency breaks hit on time, and they were in the lobby, slightly above the floor. Some people died, but Mann, Giordano, and Friedlander survived. However, only Mann and an unknown woman was able to escape, and Giordano, Friedlander, and the remaining survivors died. 10 people met with firefighter Orio Palmer, and claimed they all came from the 78th floor, which was hit. Palmer told them to use an elevator that was working that he took on the 41st floor. A ladder 15 firefighter called and said that he was trying to break the wall. Lauren Smith, Dean Eberling, Russ Keene and Linda Rothemund along with 11 - 25 other people were on an elevator when the second tower hit. It's unsure what floor they were on but they fell 15 stories before the Elevator's emergency brakes kicked in. They all boarded the elevator on the 78th floor and were close to the Lobby. Lauren and Linda survived, as they were the only two small enough to escape from the hole. Russ and Dean did not, along with everyone else. Kelly Rehyer were in a elevator on the 78th floor. He worked together on the 100th floor. He got trapped with other people in the elevator, and managed to get out first since he was close to the door and could fit through. He saw two co-workers, Keating Crown and Donna Spera, and the three of them descended down 78th flight of stairs. All 3 survived and are three of 38 sky lobby survivors He wasn’t trapped but Edward Nicholls was in an elevator on the 78th floor where flight 175 crashed into him. He luckily managed to get out due to being pushed out from the force and escaped. He is another sky lobby survivor. NORTH TOWER: Al Smith, Jan Demczur, John Paczkowski, Colin Richardson, Shivam Iyer, and George Phoenix, were trapped in an express elevator in the North Tower. Realizing that the walls were made of sheetrock, Demczur, who was a janitor, used one of his tools to chip a large hole into the wall. They managed to bust through the wall and into a washroom on the 50th floor. A fireman directs them to a functioning elevator where Al convinces Jan not to take the stairs, arguing that it would take too long. They all manage to make it out alive. Laura Soldati worked on the 96th floor, and was on the 91st floor in a elevator when flight 11 hit the floor she was on. miraculously she survived (as everybody on the 91st floor escaped). Gerry Wertz was in another elevator with Vanessa Lawrence. Wertz worked on the 93rd floor while Lawrence was working on the 91st floor. She got off when flight 11 hit, and Gerry was thrown out of the elevator. Both people survived and escaped. Christopher Young was in the sky lobby (78th floor) and was trapped for around an hour before getting himself out. He was one of the last people to escape the North Tower. Anthony Savas was trapped in an elevator on the 78th floor (skylobby), and was saved by Frank De Martini, Pablo Ortiz, and John Griffin. All four men died sadly. Frank and Pablo kept looking for survivors, while Anthony and John were nearby the lobby together in a stairwell. Cynthia Giugliano was trapped in an elevator when flight 11 crashed. She never escaped. She worked on the 27th floor There’s a lot more stories but these are some I found or knew ahead of time."
@dylanchadderton1
@dylanchadderton1 16 дней назад
@@xdani_thethinkingneko thank you so much thank you thank you 🙏
@G9000v
@G9000v 6 месяцев назад
I love these videos! Keep going!
@basedjiren3889
@basedjiren3889 17 дней назад
It would defeat the purpose of the attacks in the first place. They thought they chose the time of day where the most people were at work. Luckily they didnt chose to delay the attacks just 1 more hour, wouldve been worse and the buildings would be full
@SanBrunoBeacon
@SanBrunoBeacon 6 месяцев назад
Another interesting "what if" scenario is: What would have happened if only one tower had been hit and the other tower remained structurally intact with minimal damage?
@kyle2095
@kyle2095 24 дня назад
1 would still be up simple
@gonnfishy2987
@gonnfishy2987 6 месяцев назад
This is compelling. I enjoy that I’ve even thought this far.
@Ollienations
@Ollienations 6 месяцев назад
This is so interesting! Thanks Ginger!
@KingBob_01
@KingBob_01 6 месяцев назад
What if they were hit during a snowstorm, or a hurricane, or even maybe while it was raining?
@rainhat1
@rainhat1 6 месяцев назад
pretty sure during intense weather in boston and new york the airport would be closed but that could be a possibility
@Lilgoth89
@Lilgoth89 6 месяцев назад
during the rain would be an interesting Scenario, the rainwater would of assisted in cooling the external columns, possibly preventing the south tower collapse for a few extra minutes but on the other hand you have to weigh that against potentially more people choosing to stay in their office rather than evacuating out into the rain but ultimately i do not think any weather event could of helped them survive the damage and the fire
@ErikCB912
@ErikCB912 6 месяцев назад
He already talked about the hurricane
@kyle381000
@kyle381000 6 месяцев назад
These 'missions' would never have even started unless the weather was perfect, as it was on the morning of 9/11. That said, the twin towers would have been discernable at night, but not as much as in the daytime. So, it's likely that at least one of them would have been hit. However, neither the Capitol building nor the Pentagon would have been anywhere near as visible at night as they were during they day, This would have reduced the probability that either of them would actually be hit. Let's not forget that this was terrorism, and that this was intended to be a visually terrifying set of attacks. So, masking the effects of the destruction in the darkness would have defeated some of the purpose of the attacks themselves. The damage would be visible the next day, but the surprise of it would not have been as spectacular, and that was much of the point in the first place.
@RobbyHouseIV
@RobbyHouseIV 6 месяцев назад
What if a frog had wings? What if said winged frog was part of an Al Queda sleeper cell that had been activated on September 11th. I don't even want to think about the possibilities.
@4leggedfurball
@4leggedfurball 6 месяцев назад
I know you have covered "what if the towers never fell" in a prior video. But if the structures withstood the raging heat, and didnt collapse, how long would have the fires burned for?. Would the fire fighters have found a plan to try and do the impossible task of fight the fires or would they have no choice but to let them keep burning until they extinguish themselves?. Would the fires have just kept spreading from one floor to the next until a lot more floors above and below the impact zone were engulfed?
@Breathtaker5000
@Breathtaker5000 6 месяцев назад
I’ve always been curious about how long the buildings would have had to stay up for the fires in the damaged areas to burn themselves out
@kimonk
@kimonk 6 месяцев назад
I remember watching something explaining the fire, they said the chief (I’m pretty sure it was Chief Feehan) had reached the fire in one of the towers and he said the fire wasn’t too bad, that they should be able to extinguish the fire pretty easy.. I guess the damage was already done at that point though.. The Chief died when the tower collapsed. This was right after 9/11 so don’t quote me on it.. I’m going to see if I can find something about this on RU-vid.. (edit, it wasn’t Feehan, see reply to this comment for more info)
@4leggedfurball
@4leggedfurball 6 месяцев назад
@kimonk I believe that was FDNY Battalion Chief Orio Joseph Palmer who reached the 78th floor on the south tower.
@kimonk
@kimonk 6 месяцев назад
@@4leggedfurballThank you for remembering better than me!! You have to be right because I just saw that Feehan died on the ground.
@Lilgoth89
@Lilgoth89 6 месяцев назад
@@kimonklooking at the outside of the building there no way anyone would say the fire 'wasnt too bad' if they could see all of it. i think its likely he got to the bottom most floor affected by fire and was reporting what he could see on that floor.
@pyromaniac354
@pyromaniac354 6 месяцев назад
The biggest question is if they tried hijacking Ryanair planes then they wouldn't of even made it off the ground saving many lives
@204trebor
@204trebor 6 месяцев назад
Something else to ponder had the attacks took place in the evening. You would have had MLB games taking place throughout the country, most notably a New York Yankees home game. Most likely MLB would have called the games off as soon as the 2nd plane hit. You would most likely to deal will a sudden evacuation of Yankee Stadium, as the stadium might have been a target. Other live events would could have been impacted with as well, such as Broadway shows. Remember, these attacks took place well before smart phones, and people would use cell phones to call and warn people.
@oreadahajdari1930
@oreadahajdari1930 26 дней назад
Bro the time stamp on this video is insane
@topper1958
@topper1958 6 месяцев назад
Here in NYC on Sept. 11th we are NOT on standard time. We are still on daylight savings time. We just went back to standard time this morning November 5 at 2am. Also just saying, the monsters that did this could not navigate. Flight 11 flew right over my house along the banks of the Hudson. They used the Hudson to lead them to the city.
@coreyrowe4119
@coreyrowe4119 6 месяцев назад
What if the 2/26/93 bombing attack fully succeeded and the World Trade Center towers got taken out that day instead of 9/11?
@jeremyshepherd1700
@jeremyshepherd1700 6 месяцев назад
Tens of thousands of casualties. More damage and casualties in the surrounding area. Far less video of it happening, if any
@coreyrowe4119
@coreyrowe4119 6 месяцев назад
@@jeremyshepherd1700 it's pretty scary thinking about how many could've possibly died that day had the attack gone off as planned.
@prgamer241
@prgamer241 6 месяцев назад
Bojinka plot?
@Markjw25
@Markjw25 6 месяцев назад
Yep. The plan was to have the explosion cause one tower to fall on the other. Would've been way worse.
@coreyrowe4119
@coreyrowe4119 6 месяцев назад
@@Markjw25 pretty much everyone in both towers would've been killed right then and there since there would've been virtually no chance for any kind of evacuation. Towers were a lot more full since this attack happened much later in the day compared to how early in the morning 9/11 happened. Many others probably would've been killed in the street and other nearby buildings depending on where the falling towers may have landed.
@paulrichardson3932
@paulrichardson3932 6 месяцев назад
I really think if they were hit at night, and there was far less casualties. They probably would’ve been rebuilt, the exact same. Given the circumstances, and how many people died in the real event, that’s why I think they didn’t rebuild them. Way too many fatalities.
@iwasdancingwithspiders
@iwasdancingwithspiders 16 дней назад
POV: You zoomed down to the comment section to see the 9:11 time comments
@super_random_stuff
@super_random_stuff 16 дней назад
😂
@Notwassi971
@Notwassi971 6 дней назад
title and thumbnail gave me chills for some reason
@flippybourokhen
@flippybourokhen 3 месяца назад
Technically, in the pilot of the series "The Lone Gunmen" the attack on the Towers with the plane was at night, which already made it something terrifying and above all mysterious because seeing those buildings burn in the dark without being able to properly capture what is happening gives a apocalyptic perspective
@RobbyHouseIV
@RobbyHouseIV 6 месяцев назад
The better question, one we should all be thankful didn't happen, is what would have happened if Flights 11 and 175 had struck an hour or an hour and a half later than it did when everyone had pretty much shown up for work to including the chronically late and tardy types. When the North Tower was struck a quarter till 9:00 people were still showing up for work with both buildings well short of th 2:11 e average maximum numbers of bodies typically sitting in seats working their respective jobs on any given floor. I dare say the fatalities would have easily been much higher if those assholes had booked a later flight on September 11, 2001.
@DutchDukeMan
@DutchDukeMan 6 месяцев назад
the terrorists chose that specific day because of the super clear skies. would be a challenge for them to find their targets in the dark
@pyromaniac354
@pyromaniac354 6 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure they did it on that day due to some thing that happened around WW1 or 2 era to middle eastern people. Was in a doco but can't remember exactly. They would of already planned it for an exact day no doubt
@wesleysayud419
@wesleysayud419 6 месяцев назад
September 11, 1683 the Ottomans are defeated by the Holy League@@pyromaniac354
@DutchDukeMan
@DutchDukeMan 6 месяцев назад
@@pyromaniac354 nah these guys would not have been able to pull it of if september 11 was a cloudy day
@egold1006
@egold1006 6 месяцев назад
You read my mind. I have driven by these towers at night and thought what if.
@theshenpartei
@theshenpartei 6 месяцев назад
You should do a video on the 1993 bombing on what if that event brought down the towers down
@jasonvaquero9739
@jasonvaquero9739 27 дней назад
A great look into what the collapse would have looked like at night is the scene of the Chrysler building collapsing in Cloverfield. The hand held cam effect, the people running into stores, and the dust cloud enveloping the streets. That’s definitely what I think the collapse would have looked like from the ground if the attacks happened at night
@davidslife989
@davidslife989 6 месяцев назад
What if it WAS at night, BUT with a power outage? A little more out there then this scenario but possible nonetheless.
@AirportPlaneSpotting
@AirportPlaneSpotting 24 дня назад
*than
@Prokill007
@Prokill007 6 месяцев назад
What if one of the planes only scraped the tower
@ThisGuyHere_YT
@ThisGuyHere_YT 12 дней назад
Respect to making the video 9:11 minutes long
@geemonster9179
@geemonster9179 Месяц назад
I often asked myself that in the winter it's dark earlier if they were hit at say 4.30-5pm it's quite dark in winter at that time, hampering rescue efforts.
@stevenseelig945
@stevenseelig945 Месяц назад
6:47 Him bringing up the 30 minute delay on the departure of Flight 93 from Newark Airport that morning meant that Flight 93 departed only 5 minutes before Flight 11 crashed into the North Tower. If that delay had been long enough that the passengers and crew had seen the first plane hit do you think they would've second guessed how secure they were and either delayed departure even longer or evacuated the plane
@JzdenPlaysRBLX
@JzdenPlaysRBLX 18 дней назад
the fact the video was 9 minutes and 11 seconds long says it all
@gonnfishy2987
@gonnfishy2987 6 месяцев назад
Aircraft and flight paths in a lot of cases use these buildings and the beacon/tower on them as navigational references
@user-bm3hu5bm3b
@user-bm3hu5bm3b 22 дня назад
If they were hit at night, it's like a villain not giving a speech before ending the hero
@God_is_king4
@God_is_king4 25 дней назад
We not going to talk about the video length
@Flyyn_Gaming_9
@Flyyn_Gaming_9 6 месяцев назад
Imagine the sun rises and they're both gone and the whole worlds in shock and disbelief and then building 7 starts to fall
@zenntron7172
@zenntron7172 6 месяцев назад
is anyone gonna talk about how the video is 9:11 minutes long?
@Xantylon74
@Xantylon74 6 месяцев назад
😆👌
@itsmythical2
@itsmythical2 6 месяцев назад
Yeah it's happened twice in a row now, pretty weird lol.
@DutchDukeMan
@DutchDukeMan 6 месяцев назад
it shows 9:10 for me
@chaodo7020
@chaodo7020 6 месяцев назад
Shows 9:10 for me to
@cyberpunkmodels692
@cyberpunkmodels692 6 месяцев назад
Your next video on it should be what if one of the twin towers tipped over instead of collapsed
@drew388
@drew388 6 месяцев назад
what if they just vanished😮
@bigonaka8159
@bigonaka8159 6 месяцев назад
ironically this program is 9 minutes and 11 seconds in length.
@CosmoStickVille
@CosmoStickVille 6 месяцев назад
This man knew what he was doing by making the video 9 minutes and 11 seconds long
@itsRileyFox
@itsRileyFox 15 дней назад
Why is this video specifically 9 minutes and 11 seconds?? 😭
@5TC
@5TC 7 дней назад
Love how this video is 9 minutes and 11 seconds
@Wrestling316
@Wrestling316 6 месяцев назад
If the attacks happened at night there would be far less casualties being that the Observation Deck was closed and most workers were already clocked out and at home or in the process of clocking out from work.
@VieskyOlegBelyakov
@VieskyOlegBelyakov 6 месяцев назад
4:30😮 i want this pic in the highest resolution possible 🙏🏻
@bingowithagun
@bingowithagun 6 месяцев назад
The fact that this video is 9 minutes and 11 seconds long amuses me idk why
@thesimpostor6251
@thesimpostor6251 16 дней назад
This is the greatest video in the history of youtube: "I believe the buildings would he slightly harder to hit at night" "Basically everyone in the United States is pulling an all nighter" "The twin towers are hard to miss" "What about the idea of it already being pitch black and then the smoke comes" "Could you imagine that thing falling and its still PINGING?"
@Nancy2420s
@Nancy2420s 6 месяцев назад
Oh my god that would of been even worst. But they knew what they were doing more people in the morning ready to get to work at the offices.
@58twright
@58twright 14 дней назад
hmmm that would have definitely been a busy night for news. I wonder if school would have been closed the next day. There likely would not have been as many casualties either since most people are at work during the day so I think most of the offices there would be empty.
@chuumon95
@chuumon95 26 дней назад
Okay… so would the attack happening at night have been beneficial to Al-Queda or the people of New York? So much info and I had a hard time following any of it. What time was everyone suppose to quit back then?
@Planestuff.641Or_sp
@Planestuff.641Or_sp 6 месяцев назад
Video ideas : what is the plane hit wtc 7 instead of the twin towers 2 what if the plane missed the twin towers. 3 what if the twin towers were rebuilt 4 what if only a part of the plane hit the twin towers 5 what if the plane that was going to hit the twin towers was shot down.
@RoblosM4N
@RoblosM4N 6 дней назад
It's actually 9 minutes and 10 seconds but RU-vid recommended the video as 9 minutes and 11 seconds wth
@user-sp6jk3zz5b
@user-sp6jk3zz5b 27 дней назад
Great question to ponder
@Gu3stish3r3
@Gu3stish3r3 18 дней назад
I think that one guy, who saw the event happen outside his hotel window (in the hotel next to the towers) in the morning of 9/11/01 and still got ready would’ve been taking a night shower and just not giving a care for what’s happening
@zoefaith120
@zoefaith120 6 месяцев назад
It's so weird and awake oam watching this @ 911 time.... wow how times flies and hever again. Hever forget all of them.
@MrArchitectYT
@MrArchitectYT 24 дня назад
You have to remember all the lights went out so the towers and surrounding buildings could be pitch black
@1867Phoenix
@1867Phoenix 6 месяцев назад
Again New York is not in the far east of the Eastern Time Zone, it is almost in what should be the center of it (75 deg. West longitude), which passes through nearby Philadelphia. Each time zone has a central meridian called a control meridian starting with 0 degrees longitude in Greenwich, England. Following this pattern - 1 UTM is 15 degrees West, - 2 UTM is 30 degrees West, -3 UTM is 45 degrees West, -4 UTM is 60 degrees West, and -5 UTM (Eastern Time Zone) is 75 degrees West. All of the midwest with the exception of the eastern half of Ohio, should be in Central Time Zone. Cincinnati is slightly closer to the 90-degree meridian that is the control meridian Central Time Zone than the 90-degree meridian that is the control meridian Eastern Time Zone. The Eastern Time Zone extends about 200 miles west of where it should be as a carryover from a time when most of the country's economic activity was on the East Coast making it advantageous to be on Eastern time. With states like Texas and California and Cities like Denver and Phoenix being far more populated that advantage is not as advantageous as it once was.
@EvanEscher
@EvanEscher 6 месяцев назад
Yes, that's correct
@MrRight80
@MrRight80 6 месяцев назад
the narrator said eastern standard time, that would be incorrect, it was eastern daylight time as daylight savings time didn't end yet.
@1867Phoenix
@1867Phoenix 6 месяцев назад
That's because he probably did not realize there is a difference between standard and daylight time when telling people what time zone a place is in. I cannot tell you how many times I have heard people mistakenly use the term "Standard Time" for an event that occurred outside Arizona and Hawaii during Daylight Savings.
@michelleschiessl6573
@michelleschiessl6573 6 месяцев назад
I like how this video is about 9/11 and the video is perfectly 9 minutes and 11 seconds.
@michelleschiessl6573
@michelleschiessl6573 6 месяцев назад
or close..
@arlobrubaker
@arlobrubaker 6 месяцев назад
Horror, visually... those people in the top windows is like a modern spooky Raft of The Damned sort of image.
@RobertShakur424
@RobertShakur424 5 дней назад
1:13-1:19 homie was spittin. We makin it past tragedies with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@jasonsimpkins9069
@jasonsimpkins9069 25 дней назад
Man, i thought we were going to see an animated version of nighttime. Damn it
@resetplayz53
@resetplayz53 25 дней назад
3:58 no idea why, but i got titanic vibes when it broke in two.
@floatyjam
@floatyjam Месяц назад
i think it's more cursed that they been hit during the day, since people can clearly see the horror going on
@joshuamountz6891
@joshuamountz6891 26 дней назад
I heard a rumor that they actually wanted to attack at midnight on new year's day 2000,but couldn't get organized in time so thay chose September 11th as a form of symbolism for our 911 emergency phone number
@Romanball5677
@Romanball5677 6 месяцев назад
What if the sears tower was attacked
@ErikCB912
@ErikCB912 6 месяцев назад
Not from Chicago but nobody calls it the Willis Tower. Only the the Sears tower.
@Markjw25
@Markjw25 6 месяцев назад
​@@ErikCB912I'm not from Chicago or ever been there and I'll always call it the Sears tower.
@judeitsu1194
@judeitsu1194 24 дня назад
Imagine waking up to find out the twin towers are destroyed, there is debris all over the place, and the country is under attack and think about when it would collapse how scared would you be? You would be terrified but also waking up to find less casualties would be amazing but still it’s terrifying either way because where will the people go to work? What will they do next morning when they drive to the twin towers and see this while they try to go to work or even if they just see it on the news what now? Where do they work now? What will they do, they lost their job so now what? Crazy things to think about don’t you think?
@Venom1975-real
@Venom1975-real 6 месяцев назад
Ive always wondered if all 4 planes just hit the twin towers, 2 for each building
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