What makes West Africa fertile ground for military coups | DW News 

Exactly! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

Wait, do 14 post colonial taxes have anything to do with it? 🤔

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Then go vote elect a proper leader, if you want freedom speech and democracy.

So its a left wing coup?

most african countries have unfortunately had bad experiences with democracy. these so-called democracies ended up falling pray to wealthy foreign investors, who propped up their own loyalist candidates to set up brutal, but 'democratic' regimes that served their industry. any attempts to subsequently vote this tyrant out, are met with foreign mercenaries.

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Thx brother

@@Stevie-J Try to become more independent and take control of your own life then, like West Africa tries to by attempting to remove remnants of neocolonial French monetary control.

None of those countries are forced to be in that currency group, several have even decided to leave it over the years. Its a benefit for those countries to be in it because it ensures their currencies remain stable and dont randomly crash. But sure, always someone else to blame.

@@FarsightAE France has been meddling in African politics for years. You're basically blaming African countries for being scammed, manipulated, and exploited by France. That French controlled currency siphons capital out of Africa and removes their ability to make their own monetary policy. It's also was not so simple to just walk away when France starts meddling in African elections, media, economy, and leaders to keep them within the french sphere of influence. It's a given that it's not all France's fault, but it's undeniable that they still bear a significant factor of responsibility given the amount of neo-colonial influence they project within the region. Just like how France wants to go less than half way across the globe into another continent to meddle in African affairs when a coup happens. Good or bad France makes it their business to meddle in African affairs, so again yes, France definitely shares blame even in modern times without even accounting their past colonial rule. It's not like Francs is in African politics out of the goodness of their heart.

@@ivannapolsk9421 Try to take control of your own life? 😂 They will be begging for aid and food supplies in less than 12 months. So much for control.

@@farzana6676 Eh, it's not like the attempted coup on Jan 6th of last year in the states. Much of Africa is suceeding and modernizing well without French neocolonialism taking more money than it gives in aid. Regardless, the right to self-determination of African peoples is far more important than living in this alleged utopia under remnants of French rule.

O.o Under democracy if you elect bad government, the people can protest & petition, depending on the system they might have the option to force a new election, but when all else fails and you have bad governance terms end and you vote for someone else. That's how democracy works. This has literally nothing to do with why there a coup d'etats in West Africa.

@@tjmarx 'you vote for someone else'. that is the exact problem here, there can be only so many times people 'vote for someone else' and ended up with the same or even worse government before people have enough with democracy the system completely breaks. When you have more than two groups of people with different interests, AKA all of the African nations, the majority of the people will always be dissatisfied with the election result. The problem is African nations build on borders that make no sense at all. So it is guaranteed that for the majority of the people the elected government is a 'bad government' regardless of who is in power.

@@tjmarx Just voting for someone else will not mean that that someone else and the government that he leads will be much better than the previous one. Changing government after government without actually establishing and implementing a long term governing policy, irrespective of the government in power, will not bring about development. Multiparty adversarial democracy does not give an incentive towards cooperative and consultative pluralism that a country needs, especially a developing one which aims or which its elites proclaim they want to industrialize. What it does is actually have various parties and their representatives compete for votes with various promises that are nebulous in terms of the way that they are going to be achieved, and it also results in spoils sharing of state resources and negative rent seeking by supporters and businesses in return for their support in helping one get elected. A military government, by contrast, if its leaders are actually interested in doing so, can make very swift to immediate decisions with regards to development and investments and direct resources there accordingly, without needing to respond to inimical special interest groups and persons, since they did not reply on them to come to power.

Neither of you appear to understand how voting actually works. I hear nonsense excuses and one of you is a ridiculous apologist for military dictatorships. Voting doesn't happen in a vacuum, it's not the case that just because you vote for some other guy that, that person is definitely going to win. Nor does an incumbent losing mean they cease to exist or remain untouched in their platform. Politicians don't want to lose their jobs, so when they do those who want to remain in politics take the feedback from the electorate and adjust their policies. Similarly, votes can be spread across candidates creating a situation where there is no winner an the election has to be held again. That kind of feedback from the electorate tells politicians they need to change their platform in order to split the divide. Where another candidate receives enough support to take the election, they have an appealing platform. You have to hope they meant it and punish lying politicians at the polls so it stops happening. This has nothing to do with borders, everyone whose candidate doesn't win an election feels dissatisfied with the results and a bit miffed. That's normal regardless of where you're from, it's part of democracy. Most democratic countries have tens if not hundreds of competing interest groups. Every democratic country has warring factions. Africa is no different. It takes time for a society to build a political class, and democracies need strong constitutional protections, including separation of militaries from political life. A constitution, social structure and political education that means when people's candidates lose a fair election they take the loss with dignity. That's the problem in many African countries, not where borders are drawn.

@@tjmarx It appears that you don't know what a border is. You said the problem in Africa is "It takes time for a society to build a political class, and democracies need strong constitutional protections" essentially you are saying because people have different political views and constitutional needs that there are problems in Africa, which is true. That is basically saying people of different viewpoints in a single country are causing problems in Africa. Borders if drawn correctly are supposed to include people of similar political and democratic viewpoints into a single nation. AKA South American. You're essentially saying the solution to the border problem in Africa is that have people of different viewpoints assimilate into a single nation through time. Which is a fair point. But that does show your solution is based on a problem created by people who should not be in a single border got be lumped together.

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France is behind of all coups in Africa and indeed this happens in its former colonies

i mean it's the best descriptor, it wasn't really a coup as there was no planning and no conspirators, the president died fighting ISIS in libya and his son just said "cool i'm in charge" and nobody tried to stop him.

@@cageybee7221 Oh I am not complaining, I was complimenting their writing skill PR wise. The phrase itself could cover almost anything and everything ;)

@@danjohnston9037 not really, it's fairly specifically non-democratic, so it wouldn't cover democracies. and it's a transistion of power, not a coup which generally involves an illegal plot to seize power. so it could not cover coups. so you "term that can apply to everything" really only applies, shocker, to things which are neither democratic nor overt planned seizures of power.

Africa is a beautiful continent, with many rich natural resources, stay strong democratic Africa.....

So ignorant

@@hariseldon3786 OK 👍

@@hariseldon3786 100% of these coups countries are all french-speaking. How do you explain that, Einstein ?

Unfortunately…democracy is not working as it should be.

@@TheAshdan81 you can say that again

Who is the we?, i love democracy and freedom speech.

France should pay bilions of reparation for their history to africa

And corrupt leaders would take it all and disappear, then what?

They should be free from western Colonization

France isn't poor tho wym?

You really think they are French puppets? France ha sits own problems and want to sever all its links with corrupt Africa.

France is pretty rich

@@hariseldon3786 lol Research about FranceAfrique.

M7 is the foundation of UPDF. The moment anything happens to him the whole thing collapses.

That’s the stupidest thing one could say. Obviously you are uninformed

Democracy has had a longer history in africa than perhaps anywhere else. numerous tribes were democratically run, numerous others were not, those tribes were then shoved into the same borders and told to agree.

His Irish and probably a protestant hiding behind the wall from catholics... Why don't you blame France for these coups as far as I'm concerned they involve themselves in everything....

@@glorykabwayi2439 i mean the coup in Burkina Faso has a pretty clear cause, their incompetant government couldn't fight terrorists, so the military send "fine, i'll do it" as for Mali, their president was corrupt and stealing his soldiers wages.

That would be great, but first French should pay back all they’ve been stealing for centuries.

I whish it was that simple, Without involvement is a pipe dream, old colonialism (France, England, Holland, Belgium, Portugal , Italie and Spain) or neo-colonialism (US and China) or mercantilo-colonialism (pretty much any large world economy) are based on the same concept: access to natural resources though putting minorities in power.

Why would they do that and lose all their assets & power...duhhh

Yeah. Clear past all the smoke, this is the key factor.

France.

The politicians in Nigeria are extremely corrupt, but I don't think that a coup will succeed because the SW and SE will immediately break off if there is a coup

@@sulaak what is SW and SE

@@kobe8034 Nigeria regional separatist movements.

Why be strong like you guys , what are you doing

@@Stevie-J Ok I guess good synthesis

Which laws specifically?

The Chinese “system” is propped up by astronomical growth. It’s real test will come when the it’s GDP growth inevitably slows down, which should not be too far off.

You cannot win against poverty, it will allways exist. Yin and Yang. Its absolutely impossible for everyone to be rich.

@@jevonmcpherson8054 yeah you don't have to be rich you just need your basic needs met. This is literally possible if we took food and housing off the "market" and just made it a human right by international law.

@make a wish Always someone else to blame.

@@Irishtradchannel except when that "someone" is actually to blame...well...can't blame em for blaming.

@@clockpenalty even if there is someone to blame doing it doesn't provide anything good. The best way forward is to forgive without forgetting so that you can do better in future.

South and Central America are a bifurcation from Spain/Portugal. Spain is a country which is yet to become a stable democracy. Only in 1975 did Spain reluctantly abandon fascism.

@@vinm300 bi·fur·ca·tion the division of something into two branches or parts. Not certain that word applies. 500 years? It would take only one good leader to remove the corruption and as the guest suggests, work for the betterment of the people. The British model of government seems to have the best result imo.

@@bcanuck The British model is collapsing, it is in Austerity, or otherwise known practicing state murder of it's aged and disabled people? It's a disaster, much as Australia is now going down the same route.

I don't agree with you look at India and USA they were States like Africa but due to strong constitution they are still standing ... Having a strong constitution and 4 pillars politics, bureaucracy, judiciary and media must play crucial part. 🙏🙏🙏

Parliamentary democracy is the system where I live. We take care of our elderly and the disabled have good support. There is corruption in all systems but with laws against this behavior they get rooted out. Most western democracies have lost their mind with this virus, but that should end shortly and they can hopefully get back to normal. I don't know what you'd like to see in it's place but as things stand from where I live it still functions better than all alternatives.

I checked the religious demographics of these countries and you seem to be correct (though one is only 60%).

How ironic is it that the milatary people doing the coups are all secularists who want to implement democracy. What Islam has to do with coups, coups being happening in Africa for decades; read the history of the region.

because of islam and condomless

russia is more present in Africa than America.

" left that continent" They are still there, they control the governments, if they don't they overthrow them. It is in Europe's and the USA's best interest to keep the people of African nations poor, this is what they do.

And why should they educate them? To create superstates which would outcompete them within 50 years? Clearly they acted in their own best interests and continue to do so. Africa's development will be stunted until it is no longer in the interests of other nations to do so, and there is no guarantee that day will ever come. So it's up to the people of Africa to take action themselves to acquire the skills they need to survive. A lot of them are waking up to this after they got abandoned during the pandemic.

@prongX Yeah and they remember how it turned out for them

I think European and Western countries should, keep their education, gods, and governments systems in thier countries. African don't need it.