What Tank History Can Teach Us About Clone Wars Armored Warfare 

Allen, you've made us here in the 41st Millennium very proud with your Humanity First movement, it's amazing that even before the xenos exploited our weakness during the Age of Strife, people like you were hating them.

Okay, but let’s just be honest, seeing an M1 Abrams or something going up against an AAT would be badass

It's almost like all the "tanks" in Star Wars were designed by people who had no idea what they were doing.

"We're an assault tank, not a boat!" - Canderous Assault Tank driver. I love the Canderous Assault Tanks from FOC. It's powerful and awesome.

“WW2 era centurion tanks” I’m gonna stop you right there-

Honestly I think one of our MBTs would be a good match for most star wars "Tanks". Sure Durasteel may be tough, but Things like HEATFS and APFSDS could most likely punch through.

*Insert Gru meme here* How do you protect your tanks? Germany: Side skirt armor! America: Sandbags Russia: Infantry Russia: Infantry

It's kind of amazing that the Republic even stood a chance against the sheer numbers advantage of the separatists. The Sherman was widely made fun of but what they dont mention in those jokes is that it allowed for pack tactics that destroyed 4 german tanks for each Sherman lost.

Funny you mentioned the persuader class's fixed guns. In the 2005 star wars battlefront 2, you could maneuver around it and be relatively safe as you slowly chip away at it's armor and health

One of the reasons the ATT used legs instead of repulsors is because repulsors can't go through a deflector shield while legs can

I miss the Juggernaut, UT-AT and AT-AP in this video. AT-TE's were often used together with LAAT gunships, AT-RT's and artillery support.

Something that's always bugged me is engagement distance. Today, MBT's have the capability to engage targets accurately from miles away, while Star Wars vehicles always have to engage one another up close. Surely with their advanced technology, they could develop weapon systems that could destroy targets from easily a dozen miles away. Note: the only vehicle I've seen able to do something like that is the Hellfire Droid Tank, though I am not sure what the distance was on its missiles in AotC.

Also some modern tanks have soft/hard kill systems to stop anti-tank missiles and RPGs.

I think the Battle of 73 Easting during the Gulf War is pretty lobsided plus last tank battle in the 20th century.

I always find it funny that the hovertank in rogue one was clearly a tracked vehicle you can see them when they toss the grenade in front of it.

I think an important aspect of the AT-TE that's left out is that the mass driver of the AT-TE can have an arc and is shown to be capable of acting as artillery, plus it can carry multiple kinds of ordnance, making it capable of dealing with multiple scenarios. The legs aside, it's probably a tanker's dream. Long range cannon, anti-personnel protection on front and back, and can carry its own infantry escort. It's slow speed is almost completely made up for if maybe a tank in the column have AT-RTs for recon. The one thing I think is missing is side hatches. If infantry were capable of fighting from inside the walker, then it would be the ultimate medium tank in Star Wars. Especially if it was possible to mount Z-6's from these hatches.

Curiously enough, the Rebell Alliance in Legends use actual track tanks like the T3-B and T4-B, two tanks that were powerful enough to outmatch any Imperial vehicle, specially the AT-AT Plus I honestly believe that repulsor lifts and legs are a good upgrade to tanks in situations when regular tracks aren't enough or you find yourself in terrain unfavorable to tracks

People have compared the tactics in the Clone Wars to the tactics from the Napoleonic Wars, but they really are closer to the Tactics from WWI

Calling it now! Here come the Arial and Nautical versions, alongside versions for the Empire and Rebels!

I would like to modify the front of AT-TE by adding armour at the driver front and move the cockpit backwards even if it would decrease the number of troops it can carry

Loving the Jedi robes

The republic and empire always had the cooler stuff it seemed. I have to say for the most part the separatist had practical ground vehicles. Now a days tanks and ammunition could take out any walker with ease, especially DU rounds that's some nasty stuff right there..

You are forgetting the republics saber class repulsor tank and the AT-RT,they were often deployed alongside the AT-TE

To be honest I'm not a fan of the history of the clone wars videos, but I am a fan of tanks ( my interest coming mostly from modelling them) and I found this really interesting and entertaining.

Maybe one on "what fighter plane history can teach us on clone wars dog fights?"

Centurian tanks could easily take out a T-55, Centurians were good tanks that could beat any tank until t-64 came around.

Fxxx legs and hover tech, prefer caterpillar tracks.

The republic also had saber tanks, which were repulsor craft and lower profile.

You didn’t mention the TX-130 Sabre-class or the Juggernaut!

I’ve always imagined that Star Wars tanks while mostly the at te was more like a self propelled gun,

7:14 and 10:16 So you are saying that being able to use the high ground is important? Mkay

10:22 One could say...they used the high ground to defeat the tanks.

I think the Republic TX-130 Hover tank is a better comparison to the Sepatatist AAT, but overall most of the points still stand.

The tanks in WWI were slow because they were initially intended to have infantry keep up with them.

Technically, a tank without a rotating turret (NR-N99) isn't a tank. It's a tank destroyer. Germany made a lot of tank destroyers on tank chassis in WWII because they were cheaper, lower profile and you could put on a bigger gun because you didn't need the hardware to rotate it. Minor point. Good video.

I hope we see the TX-130 tank in this last season of Clone Wars

Seems like a lot of advanced experimental military equipment has been in that "It's terrifying when it doesnt break down!" boat... for example Canada entered world war 1 with some of the most accurate rifles ever made at the time, unfortunately they quickly stopped working in wet and muddy conditions... you can see how that would be a problem.

I cannot imagine an AT-TE moving at 60kmph

The Centurion and T-54/55 series tanks were both designed and fielded at the same time. Both world war 2 technology, and both classic vehicles that are still in service all around the world, upgraded with various packages that you can buy off the shelf. They are 100% contemporaries in everyway. Saying that the T-55 is more advanced is a misnomer, as the Centurion, in stock form, is more than likely the superior vehicle.

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engineers: ok so we could make our vehicles more practical with wheels OOOORR we could make them look sick as hell with some legs head engineer: legs

Tanks were designed as infantry support vehicles from the start. Large scale tank battles are a rarity yet necessary at times.

Curse you Tarkin for replacing the AT-TE for the walking target AT-AT.

if you are comparing class to class battle tanks: rep: tx-130 saber sep: AAT (more of a direct line of sight artillery vehicle), NR-N99 Persuader-class droid enforcer (snail droid) heavy tank/heavy troop transports rep: ATTE, HAV a5 (and later a6) juggernaut sep: mtt recon/scout vehicles: -rep: infantry support platform (hover), atrt outrider units: rep: biker troops sep: stap units i am leaving afew out but still

Great Video man. XD Thanks for sharing with us. :)

Thanks for the info. More material for a fan fic.

You hit the nail on the head!

Well what about the republic hover tank? It maybe slow, but it's middle launchers are capable of being fired separately for long range. Downside of it tho is that it's quite slow in movement, and can't tank snipe like the att with it's single barrel mounted gun

The problem with any of this is that many things in Star Wars, and a lot of other Sci-Fi franchises, is that things like walkers are supposed to be unique and stand out for the entertainmentof the audience, not be logically fleshed out.

As yes Jedi Allan is here and the vid is about tanks this is a good sign.

At the very beginning of tank development, the WW1 Germans considered using legs for their A7V tank prototypes. They did not pursue this design for a variety of reasons. I do wonder though, what that would look like. I imagine it would probably be quite squat and low to the ground, with a plodding sort of gate.

If you wanna beat Chechens, you gotta get a good interior decorator.

Good job

Think it would have been cool if the SPAA was based on the hull of a Turbo Tank. Would have made a lot more sense than a bunch of little feet

When will British ben will restart Being on the videos

You always talk about AT-AT and AT-TE when talking about tanks but I never hear anything about the TX-130, or has that all been thrown into the forgotten unknown region of legands?

Big thenk for using metric!

Do a what if domino squad survived rishi

I would caution; screening tanks with infantry, to protect against enemy infantry, is a great idea. But the idea of an "independent" tank that could use multiple gun turrets to "screen" itself was shown historically to be a failure, such as with the Vickers Independent tank and derivative models (such as the Soviet T-35 or American M2 Medium Tank, or the various British multi-turreted tanks (such as the Cruiser Mk I.).

Love the video

Hello there!

*Starts playing Ghost Division in the background*

If your tanks get destroyed but the turret survives, you just put it in the ground and call it a bunker lol

Tanks beat everything, except plot armor. I would love to see better vehicles in SW.

“Avoiding tracked vehicles” *cough cough persuader tank*

Do a review video of the A6 Clone turbo tanks/juggernauts strengths and/or weaknesses

Correction: Centurion tanks are Cold War era; they did not exist until after ww2

Okay, I have a radically new design idea for Star Wars armoured vehicles: Antigrav repulsors AND legs. Wanna go fast or over a body of water obstructing a direct route? Fly my pretties. Some dipshit wants you to assault a vertical cliff a couple hundred meters high? Honestly just call in dropships ... LEGS I mean, yes, legs. Have the tanks climp a nearly 90° vertical cliff, great idea, amazing, woohoo~ Also got a revolutionary active defense system idea to protect those new tank-thingies from enemy blasterfire! You just take a lightsaber, mkay ... you put that lightsaber on a real juiced up spinner, mkay and *WHIRRR* it goes spinning around like superfast and it will deflect a good chunk of incoming blaster fire. Just put enough of those on your vehicle for sufficient coverage of critical sections and viola: mechanized Jedi tank! Big brain design boyz!

I always have wondered why the Republic didn't have any non walking armor.

Hey I just noticed that the AT TEs in ep 2 didn't have turret gunners, at least on one of them

I almost fricking started drooling XD

You do not need more effective armour if your gunner is able to blast enemy rockets out of the sky like this guy on Saleucamie ^^

Is that the "Fury" M4 Sherman tank at that Thumbnail?

also you have to worry about anti infantry weaponry which the at-te has the at-te can also be air dropped

I would compare the AT-TE to the Char B1 Bis, multiple guns, big armor, vulnerable movement units, and massive firepower if facing forwards. I would also note the faults of the Bis as to why the AT-TE was not great, and the design of the Bis with Star Wars tech and armor would be much better in design than the AT-TE personally. Feel free to argue with me if you want if you think a tank fits it better.

Tank warfare means hit them hard and hit them fast

Call me surprised this video not sponsored by World of Tanks. Missed opportunity.

The heat cannot be protected by land mines because of its feet

Tanks, you're welcome.

STANDING IN THE LINE OF FIRE! 32 WILL LEAD THE WAY! COMING OVER TRENCH AND WIRE! GOING THROUGH THE ENDLESS GRAY! Sorry, had to.

The strongest armor Ever Used in Star Wars is Plot Armor :)

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Have you ever heard the tragedy of King Tiger the Heavy?

um didn't the atte actually have armour that dispersed the energy of attacks that hit it and was damned hard to actually penetrate

Have you done a video about what if the rebels captured the death star

What happened to Darth Maul’s legs?

You have repulsor lifts. I'd say tanks are obsolete in the Star Wars universe now that equivalent firepower can basically fly around and be protected while doing so.

Biggest regret was becoming an Airman instead of a tanker.

Fixed Gun 'Tanks' are actually called Assault Guns or Tank Destroyers, depending on use. The Assault Gun is used in direct assaults on fortified areas in support of the Infantry. While Tank Destroyers are self-explanatory in their purpose. Though both were often pressed into each other's roles or into roles meant by the Tank, resulting in the Assault Gun falling out of favor and the Tank Destroyer disappearing until about 40 years ago, after a 40 year hiatus. Though there were always some kind of attempts to keep Tank Destroyers in service or make new ones, it was just that Tanks had evolved to the point where it wasn't necessary until reliable Anti-Tank Missiles arrived and suddenly, anything you could mount a Missile Launcher to, was a Tank Destroyer. Still, a Missile-armed TD won't be of as much use as a Tank. I do believe the last major use of Assault Guns was in either the Six Days War or the Yom Kippur War. Also, I will point out a pet peeve here: The Israelis didn't just have Centurions. They also had Shermans, dammit! The Israeli Tank Forces were equipped with a variety of Tanks actually. They had M48 Pattons, M60 MBTs, Centurions, M4 Shermans, AMX-13s, and even had captured large numbers of T-54/55s and other Tanks from just about every country that produced Tanks. The Israelis often modified their Tanks and gave them localized names due to modifications, the Centurions modified by the Israelis were called Sho'ts (meaning Whip). Due to their engine and for reasons unknown to me, they became internationally known as the Sho't Kal for the Continental engines the Israelis dropped into them. The Israelis had also further modified the Sho't with more armor, new transmissions, and the Modele F1 105mm Tank Gun, also noted as the CN-105-F1 in some sources, which was a French version of the British Royal Ordnance L7 105mm Tank Gun. Incidentally, the M4 Sherman was able to accept the CN-105-F1, because the US Army had briefly used M4 Shermans with 105mm Howitzers in place of their 75mm and 76mm guns as Artillery Tanks. The concept actually worked and worked exceptionally well. The drawback was that dedicated Self-Propelled Guns (SPGs) simply did far better. So the US Army converted all of their 105 Shermans into normal Shermans with 75mm and 76mm guns. The Israelis, who bought, stole, 'borrowed', leased, and captured large numbers of Shermans decided to tinker with the American Tanks. The Sherman was capable of many things, the last Sherman derived vehicle in Israeli service wasn't retired until a few years ago. The Israelis did a program to swap the Turrets of Shermans with some French Tanks they had taken, post-WW2 developed ones, but they also had some Pre-WW2 French Tanks they captured from the Arabs (don't even ask why they were in use, I haven't a clue). They put the French Turrets, with a better gun, onto the Sherman hulls and oddly, put Sherman Turrets with Sherman guns onto the French Hulls. Don't know the story behind that one honestly, so I'm not going there. Anyways, they couldn't keep doing that for a number of reasons. So the Israelis simply took the French Tanks Guns, 75mm SA 50, also known as the CN-75-50, Tank Guns based on the German Panther's L70/7.5cm KwK 42 (the French had previously used two Regiments of Panther Tanks in their service), and mated it to the Sherman's Turret using the same techniques and developments as the British did with the 17-pdr. and the Sherman Firefly. Incidentally, all of these Shermans, called M-50 in Israeli service and the Super Sherman internationally (again, no idea how), used what was called the 'Old' or Early Sherman Turret seen on the M4 Sherman original onward. Then, later on when they had the CN-105-F1, the Israelis used the later Sherman 'New' or Later Turret vehicles. They installed the 105mm guns in these later Shermans, often easy to identify due to the difference in the back of the Turret. The vehicles were re-engined with new running gears and transmissions and were again up-armored. The Israelis designated them the M-51, but internationally, again, they were known as the Isherman which was short for 'Israeli Sherman.' The Israeli Tank forces were mostly made up of either M-51s or Sho'ts. Then there were the M48s and M60s, Magach 1-5 for the M48 and Magach 6 and 7 for the M60. The AMX-13 was withdrawn from service for having a weak gun and thin armor by 1970. There was an attempt to acquire the British Chieftain, but the British withdrew from that deal, leading the Israelis to eventually develop the Merkeva Mk1. As for captured Tanks? Well it's a list of who and what of just about every Tank there could have been, even some WW2-era Italian Tanks and Tankettes, too! The ones that lasted the longest were some Soviet designs, the T-54/55 being the chief vehicle, but due to their small size, as you noted, they were extremely unpopular with Israeli crews and their safety systems left much to be imagined by the Israelis. As such, most Soviet Tanks were either scrapped or phased out into other service rather quickly, such as APCs, where they were still complained about due to their small size, or into other areas of use. Eventually all of these converted vehicles were also phased completely out of service altogether. Israeli forces captured a number of Soviet T-62s in the Yom Kippur War, but never seriously considered keeping them as they only kept operational enough, for the amount of ammunition and spare parts the Israelis captured during the war. (It should be noted that a platoon of 7 Israeli Tanks fought off about 100+ Syrian T-62s, destroying or disabling most for the loss of 5 Sho'ts. The Sho'ts entire Company was facing almost 500 T-62s. The Israeli Company lost much of its strength, but nearly destroyed all the Syrian T-62s on its own.) Likely a number of short comings with Soviet Tank designs. Too small, Gun Elevation/Depressment was poor, safety failings (T-62 apparently had a notorious reputation for ripping men's arms off with their autoloaders in just Arab service alone), difficult to upgrade, and were typically subpar to Western Tanks as a general rule. That last one was mostly because they were generally the 'Monkey Units' or weapons that were intentionally designed and built to much lower standards and would have cost too much to re-engineer into First Rate Vehicles.

*Umbaran Mobile Heavy Cannons appear* Rex: We've got a problem! *Umbaran Mobile Heavy Cannons start killing the 501st.* Rex: Pull back! Pull back now! *The 501st try to destroy the Umbaran tanks with rockets, but show no effect.* 501st Trooper: Rocket launchers don't work on these things!

Yess sir

What about the Republic's TX-130 Sabre tank?

Chechens: It's over Russia, we have the high ground!

Could an A-10 warthog take out an AT-AT? A separatist tank?

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ive always liked the AT-TE, despite its more.... obvious.. flaws, a lot moreso than the AT-AT.

Was that no mans land clip from war horse?

Fun fact when the first "modern" tank prototype came out it was called the little wille the second prototype being very similar to the mark I was called the big wille... for obvious reasons the British government changed the name for later tanks to mark I yet many tank crews still called them there willes......... Want more facts im more then happy too

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I wonder how well the Eastern front would have gone for the Nazis if they had AT-ATs?