Turns out Cybertruck Is A Cyber-Dud? 

You could have sold it for an extra $100,000 though....

@@mohammadwasilliterate8037 There are a bunch of Cybertrucks sitting unsold at great mark ups. Only the first few flipped did so at a bug profit.

It will always be stupid looking.

@@TroySavary where exactly are these unsold Cybertrucks??

@@GWAForUTBE Sitting on the lot in Texas. Drone footage shows over a thousand. That number also tracks with the reported 2800 sold and the recall being just over 3800 trucks. So over 1/4 of Cybertrucks manufactured haven't been sold. And the ones that people are attempting to flip are not moving quickly. They are sitting there with the big markup that is quickly shrinking as they realise nobody is buying at those prices. A quick search of Autotrader finds 60 used Cybertrucks for sake, as low as $144k. There are people still trying to get over $200k, but those will not sell at that price.

Beta!!! Ha! There was (and sort of is) a small Italian company that made some of the most unreliable rust buckets in history, and even they called their cars "Alphas" (sic).

That's pretty darn good, actually. Who made the quote, do you know?

@@truckedupevs MSNBC artical on CT troubles on 4/24

Glad you enjoyed it!

My sentiments exactly. Thanks for the comment!

All teslas are beta. 12 years in and they still can't fix panel gaps ect.

Doh!!

🤣🤣🤣

Most CT owners likely have to sleep in their trucks after paying $120k for one.

@@truckedupevs I already do it lol

Good point.

You're delusional that cyber truck should've easily come in third place who the hell puts a cold rag on the charging handle. It also got an extra charge before the race even started.

@@thelegendaryfk7922 First, second and third were all pretty close together. If they ran the race again in the other direction, it's anybody's guess which order the CT and Rivian and Silverado would come in. As far as I'm concerned, that puts the Cybertruck in pretty good company. It has a smaller battery than the Silverado. And it has not had two years of software optimization like the Rivian. It also did not have CCS charger access like the Rivian did. The wet rag is a fair point, but then again, if someone was in a hurry, it would be very simple to do. People have done FAR crazier and more extreme things to ICE vehicles over the years to get them to go faster or to be more reliable, and still do.

@@davidmenasco5743 I do agree that the top three vehicles did come in pretty close together however I do not consider it a fair race because the vehicles did not start at 100% and did not all leave at the same time and the cyber truck did do a few things that I thought went against the spirit of the race such as blocking multiple charge ports to get top charging speed and a few other things the Rivian did also seem like it broke a few of the rules towards the beginning of the race like going faster than they were supposed to

Yeah. It's especially mediocre.

Thank you so much, David - but I discovered I couldn't live on the quarterly $2.54 from audience donations at Open Stage Night. I tell my circle of friends (two inmates who hadn't used up their visitation rights, a dog, and a parakeet) that my 'special-ness' comes from my upbringing. My mother, however, always refers back to the birthing forceps and the resulting compressed brain cavity...

@@truckedupevs YEP!!! Definite comedy 🎭 material. All kidding aside, your channel is thankfully informative!

​@@davidthomas4489 Thank you, David. I work hard at researching each and every video and back-checking them for my subscribers. It means a LOT when my community appreciates that.

Thank you! Glad to have you along for the crazy ride!

That's heavy. But can it float?

Bah dum dum! LOL!

Total fucking garbage. Good luck on that 8 year waiting list.

Well, I'll give it that...

Ya know people are paying $100,000 over sticker for it second hand market?

I'm always surprised, actually, by brand/leader loyalty/worship. I own a Lightning but don't offer feilty to Ford or its CEO, Jim Farley. I have a pre-order in for the Silverado EV but don't preach about the magical brilliance of GM or CEO Mary Barra. I think you are so correct that this phenomenon will be studied because it speaks of society as a whole and how we as humans feel a need to be a part of a special group or tribe, sometimes to our detriment. Great food for thought. Thanks for the comment!

@@truckedupevs I too have a Silverado EV Pre -order and had no idea who or what Mary Barra was back in 2022 when I signed up. I however have become aware of who and what she is as the UAW strike progressed last year and the Ultuim battery module production ramp up issues hit the news over this past year. I have since bought the 2024 Lyriq and I am happy with the purchase, it's fun to drive and made sense over the ICE XT5 equivalent. My take on vehicle purchases is based upon sound business sense that trumps (pun intended) brand/leader loyalty/worship every time every day. Who knows if I will go through with the purchase when the Silverado EV Pre -order turns into a purchase opportunity. Only time will tell (sometime in the 2025 MY). .

The beakup is already starting. Most hardcore Tesla fans were also far Left. Musk having any views that diverged from Leftist group think are causing cognitive dissonance among the fanbase. Some of them now hate him with the same fervour as they previously loved him. But, sincevthey akso irrationally still hate "legacy" auto, they won't buy an EV from them, so they are now championing obvious scams like Aptera and Alpha.

Not appreciably different from the Cult of Apple and Steve Jobs.

Model y best selling vehicle in the world. Suck on that lmaoooo 😂🤭

Thank you! Thrilled to have you along for the ride!

I thought the battery tech was hard to mass manufacture in a fast way, so maybe that is why there are empty spaces. Havent heard about that actually. gonna check it out

The space is just tall enough to hold the CATL "Blade Batteries" that will be in them soon enough~ They are the best battery on the market, and Elon is having the equipment installed in his NV and TX properties, where they make the CT~ Wow... When you pay attention, you have less questions~

@@LasVegasMasterChef Great observation from a burger flipper....LMFAO

Go watch Monroe Live and see really what a Cyber truck battery is all about. The only empty space is along the sides so that in a side on accident there is no intrusion into the battery.

@@johnarnold893 agree, looks like the space is more a protection than anything.

Um, 'bruh' The CT Foundation tri-motor is already more money than the Silverado EV and Hummer, which both have over 200kwh packs, and the specs on the Silverado EV WT4 already in production for fleets is just as efficient kw/mile as the CT. If you know about design, the battery tray is low to the ground and regardless of housing 123 or 200 kwhs worth of batteries wouldn't change the centre of gravity, and would actually be more structurally rigid if filled properly. So yeah, no. Also, the tire rating from what is on the truck now to what its competitors require would not go up. It is already rated for up to that load based on GVWR. Currently, it's an unfinished, rushed-to-market cash grab for Tesla. Wait a year and buy twice as much CT for 40% less price.

@truckedupevs The cybertruck battery weighs nearly 1600lbs, so imagine adding that to the weight of the already nearly 7k lb truck. Put 1600lbs payload in the truck and see how much efficiency you'll lose... it'll also wear the tires down faster and be harder on the suspension and other components... imagine offroading that now nearly 9k lb truck... You can't just ignore physics. Imagine pulling that up more slick surfaces... You have to think about everything that added battery affects... for the average buyer, that added battery will add extra cost and reduce other performance factors. Imagine accelerating that extra 1600lbs...

Comming your way very soooon, well at least BYD production is comming to Deeside 😅

@@petersimms4982 ports around Europe are packed full with unsold 'Burn Your Dollars' vehicles, they have fleet of huge car ferrys shipping direct from China so the Deeside production facility is a dubious scheme to skirt legislation imo

I think that for at least the short to mid term, they'll sell these things. But the recent recall of the accelerator pedal revealed an interesting fact: under 3,900 of these have been delivered in total since November, 2023. We know the ramp up takes time, but that puts Tesla at less than 1,000 units delivered per month. That's pretty lame - so you might be on to something...

not so fast... www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/cybertruck-vault-leak-in-rain-a-bit-disappointing.11169/

Me too.

Not these issues.

Yes, the famous year one recall for stuck accelerators that every car goes through

Okay, I missed this comment - but that was pretty damned funny!

I seem to have upset some 'sensitive' folk... :-)

I've ordered the new K-Tel Body-A-Matic Pop-up IronMan Suit kit....

The figures show the electric semi would cut food costs by 1/3 😮😊

Or version 10🤣 When its a tesla....

Yup.

Or anything from space Karen

Blame the trade war and the pandemic between us and china,tesla couldn't manufacture much with the lockdown and now they have to build the batteries in the us to protect against possible sanctions against their battery supplier catl.

There's actually been a back-and-forth on Twitter regarding Munro & Assoc.'s findings with the height and fill count inside the pack itself. Tesla replied, confirming that the battery pack is not to capacity, responding to the Twitter comment that, "the pack is half empty" by saying, "we like to think it's half full".

If there is so much extra battery space so easily available, why is the optional "range extender" something that fills a third of the bed capacity, instead of simply adding more cells inside the existing battery enclosure? Something else is going on.

@@bikeaddictbp I pondered that same question. The answer is money, I believe. But there's no aux. outlet to direct feed that charge from the extended range unit, so not sure if and when this will come to market. Either way, something is up with the CT.

@@truckedupevs I don't think Tesla has built any "range extenders" which can be examined. It seems to me that the integration to the main pack would have to be a pretty serious installation involving high-powered electrical connectors and coolant passages - not something one could easily install or remove as needed. I suppose a low-powered connection is possible, e.g. similar to the charging port, but one would think the OEM wiring harness would be built with provision for that. As opposed to, just fill the remaining space in the OEM battery enclosure with more (or bigger) cells ... IMO "buy a Silverado EV, it's just better"

Well, it is well established that I am a trucked up twit, but...

"Extra reflective surface to assist in accelerating retinal damage."

It's almost as if it's design was spoiled by a Karen of the space variety

Don't conflate Tesla's shit with EVs in general.

Tesla only recently started advertising couple months ago

DUH, Tesla doesn't do marketing.

Hi Zach. Thank you for this well-thought-through comment and critique. It is important to not automatically trust everything we see and hear, especially on RU-vid 🙂. Here are some further indicators that what I reported in this video was actually accurate - and not 'lies' at all: 1) There is a point in the tear-down when one of the engineers refers to the space between the battery 'flat' and the upper casing being empty, meaning a second layer should be there. The comment trail is not referring to the outer crash spacing, but the height spacing. Here is an article with links: electrek.co/2024/04/09/tesla-cybertruck-teardown-battery-pack-is-half-empty-confused/ . The important thing to note is that Tesla's chief engineer actually responded, confirming that the originally planned double-stack casing was only single stack, but likened it to 'half full' rather than half empty. Here's the link to Wes's reply to Whole Mars Catalog on X: twitter.com/wmorrill3/status/1777709953723293919 . (Please note that Whole Mars Catalog is a serious Tesla fan) 2) There are over 60 separate reports and/or complaints on a fleet of just under 3,900 CT vehicles produced to date (that's a pretty high %), of rust appearing on the surface of Cybertruck, and numerous accounts and videos from credible sources, enough to have Tesla respond directly (with no PR department FFS!). Here is just one of a plethora of links and articles to that response, but I am copying one in no particular order or precedence, for convenience. Feel free to type in 'Tesla responds to rust' in Google for many more examples: thesun.my/motoring_news/tesla-engineer-responds-to-cybertruck-rust-allegations-BA12129484 The range of EV trucks is lower, yes - I own one - although the Silverado WT4 has already beaten the CT by over 100 miles, and that's just the fleet model. The RST is expected to do better. As my video clearly stated, CT does a comparable or worse job in almost every metric. But Tesla has been spewing misinformation for over 4 years on how it would be superior in every metric. So, sorry to be blunt, but it seems that possibly your sources might be inaccurate, not mine. And I'm just an old fart doing my best to report on EV trucks, and yes, I do make mistakes - often, and I appreciate someone pointing them out when I do. But my videos are NEVER filled with 'a lot of lies' - mistakes, sure - but lies, no. I hope this clarifies some of the data I used in the creation of this video, Zach. Thanks again for challenging some of it. Healthy exercise!

@@truckedupevs You are citing articles, but my source is that I watched the Munroe video. If you were to watch it, you would hear them discuss how the gap in the pack is for ventilation of the gases in the event of a fire. In the article you linked about rust, it says that the rust is from surface contaminants clinging to the surface of the metal. It is not the stainless steel itself that is rusting, which is consistent with how the video that went viral was debunked because it wiped right off. Additionally, the WT4 has a 70 kWh larger battery pack, and its Miles per kWh is nearly identical to the Cybertruck if you bothered to do some simple math on a calculator. So sorry to be blunt but you are clearly being Prejudiced and subjective. Now there is nothing wrong with that and i doubt you will admit it as such but the readers of the comments can decide for themselves.

@@zachmoyer1849 Thanks for the reply. We've all watched the Munro Live video, and the speculation was that the space 'might' be for venting. The key word is speculation. But then you seem to overlook the comment and direct reply from Tesla's chief engineer, and the twitter comments that include Munro, on the missing segment being above any required venting. There's also no need to be rude. Deflection attacking one's credibility without simply pointing it out with data only lessens your credibility. I do know how a calculator works, and that Silverado has a larger battery pack. - something Tesla failed to deliver on but charged a rate as if it had - and yes, that would lead to more range, which is what I'm saying, like everyone else. Funny how it will be a similar price to CT with that extra battery pack, which only further reinforces my point. As my video clearly states, the rust and the poop are primarily FUD, and the damage to the CT was from the optics, not so much the events. I refer to it as a FUD Gorge, and then later indicate that no matter how much Tesla attempts to put out the fire on the poop and rust FUD there's no hiding the fingerprints. So, I do actually agree with you in part, and yes, I - like thousands of others - including individuals who have actually purchased the CT, are disappointed. The CT is a flop in that it hasn't exceeded any of the metrics it said it would, only comparable or worse. If people are happy with flushing $100k on a truck that in no way exceeds comparable EV trucks for less $, then all the power to them. Absolutely call that biased, as it is, and as is all editorial and opinion to some degree. That's fair. Thanks again for the comment and healthy debate. However, please keep it civil. Make your point. You are obviously intelligent and passionate about what you think, but the moment a debate goes from point & counter-point to deflection or personal attacks, the credibility goes out the window - and I hit delete.

@@truckedupevs They are doing more than speculating in the video; they even mention how the system used in the Model S is not present and refer to the Cybertruck method as better. The price difference is not just due to the battery alone; the Cybertruck offers much better performance than the Silverado. They may have been trying to keep registration fees down with the Cybertruck. In my state, due to the weight of the Silverado, you will fall into a higher registration bracket, whereas the Cybertruck remains in the lower bracket. Additionally, the video you are referring to about the Silverado was conducted with a team of Chevy engineers in a follow vehicle, hardly indicative of a real-world test as of yet. They could easily be manipulating the software and risking battery health to achieve certain range numbers. As you mentioned, it's important not to believe everything you see. I will reserve my praise until a RU-vidr reviews it independently, without a support team present.

@@zachmoyer1849 All great points. However, Kyle Connor does own a Silverado WT and has done tests independent of the Chevy team. Still, that's not conclusive, and I agree that we need to see these in the real world in the hands of real owners to determine whether they truly measure up. The draw on the RST will also be much higher than the WT version due to all the bells and whistles. I hope to be one of those first adopters, being that I have an early order in, but - I imagine like my CT order before it - I'll have to wait in Canada a year or two longer than the US. The weight thing would make a heck of a lot of sense. What I'm really interested in is when Sandy and the team manage to dig their way through the epoxy-esque compound and do a full rundown on the batteries. You may very well be correct but I'm still of the mind this isn't the last we've heard of the battery contents and the actual numbers planned moving forward. Thanks for all the in-depth work here, Zach!

Talk about speaking volumes about not knowing anything: Motortrend: "MotorTrend testing shows that when it comes to real-world range, the Cybertruck hasn't advanced the game. In the MotorTrend Road-Trip Range Test, the 2024 Tesla Cybertruck Dual Motor Foundation Series covered 224 miles, or 94 miles less than its official 318-mile range." The link: www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-tesla-cybertruck-dual-motor-real-world-range-and-fast-charging-test/

If you bought one you could have sold it for $200,000 easy now....

It's from the Muskrat company, therefore trans. It's a child's idea of a car identifying as a truck.