When “Eastern Medicine” Goes Horribly Wrong 

Texaco Mike follows western medicine. Wild western medicine.

Texaco Mike can do no wrong 😤

​@@DiamondKingVideos Amazing pun lol I love it

I mean, if he can build a CT/MRI machine that also functions as a grill, I'm sure he can run some blood tests! 😂

@@aeri_taylors-version I don't know 'bout that. His fireworks scare me.

They are referring to traditional medical practices, which is more common over there. But going to an actual doctor, they use the same science like you said.

@@RedPanda391 I mean herbal medicine exists in East Asia, but I've only ever heard of it being used to help increase one's vitamin and nutrient intake. It's pretty hard to find someone who thinks that some wacky herb or animal product will cure a disease

It's racism, maybe at best ignorance. They read some random shit post online that calls something absurd 'eastern medicine', specifically chinese, and fall for it. Because oh China has been doing this stuff for thousands of years, surely of they still do it today it must work. As of the vast majority of Chinese people don't follow the science and are not only using archaic hoodoo, but do obviously absurd and dangerous things that one doesn't need a brain to realize are dangerous. The same goes for people who shit on Eastern Medicine (this is not referring to this video just an abstract gripe). They see through the quacks pushing scams, and attribute it to the Chinese people. As of some random old Chinese lady told a 20 year old white tiktoc influencer to hock $500 cabbage water as a cure for lupus and AIDS (mark my words it will be a real fad in a week or so).

They're broadly talking about "traditional medicine" like that which is endangering pangolins and elephants among other things. More acutely, the remarkable ability of certain ppl in Western culture to believe everything except science

No this is about crystals and hot yoga and has nothing to do with TCM.. sorry

Eh not exactly true we know natural remedies that work but the fda wont approve them due to tests needed to be done and no one will fund those test becasue there is no profit. Its why lavender and chamomile tea are still considered alternative medicine for insomnia and being an aid to sleep even though we know it has these effects.

I quote that shit all the time lmao

There's lots of things that have been proven to work and haven't become accepted medical practice yet. Some of this is because doctors are slow at accepting things, some is because normal medicine has better versions of the same thing, and some is politics getting between people and effective medical treatment. Psychedelic-assisted therapy works and isn't widely offered, for example. Also some natural products have MAOI activity but aren't prescribed because synthetic MAOIs are safer. And antibiotics weren't reliably recommended for gastric ulcers until several decades after H. pylori was first proven to cause ulcers.

​@@diablomineroIf it's proven to work, but not common practice, it's still proven to work, therefore not alternative medicine. It might not be best practice, but it's still medicine. For example, massage therapy is medicine *when* used for conditions that it has strong evidence for treating; and it's alternative medicine, when it claims to cure cancer, or makes other unproven treatment claims. Like most things worth knowing, there's nuance, especially around understanding what is strong, weak, or flawed evidence.

tim is infinitely quotable

I’ll never tell

It's always based on a true story, lol

I work with people. Probably true

People are that dumb, probably is. I know people that fucking stupid. Luckily, they don't have 750 bucks

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Amogus

When you blame whole categories of people for their ignorance, you do the world and yourself the disservice of wasting the potential value of your own privilege of education. Are you _(this question is directed not just at OP but also anyone who likes their comment)_ putting any part of your here-implied superior intellect towards helping solve the social problems that lead to people's misguided healthcare decisions? Or do you only care enough to make quippy little dunks online and feed the cycle of smug academic elitism that keeps the culture war wheel spinning so it flings these people further outward? I'm a literal homeless multiply-disabled student, but I make time and spend my own limited resources to spread compassionate healthcare education to my medically illiterate unhoused peers, because I'm educated enough to know their ignorance is a result of systemic injustice, not willful self-destruction. And I'm by no means a particularly good person, it's literally the least I can do with the advantages I have. So what's your excuse for lacking either the will to help -- *or AT LEAST the will to refrain from dehumanizing **_(and yes, "and they vote" implies a dehumanizing view)_* -- those who are the real victims here?

@@ItsAsparageese I understand that with all that's going on in your life, the ability to see humor has to be tough. I'm not going to judge you, as you have me. But I sure hope things get better for you.

@@tommiegirl2441 I'm aware you meant it as humor; your choice to imply that disadvantaged people must be socially inept morons was a really condescending route to go with that, although disappointingly fitting given your OP comment, I guess. Anyway, "It was just a joke bro" is not an immunity-from-criticism card for saying something mean-spirited and reflective of a toxic, harmful mentality. Your choice to try to deflect/dodge the justified criticism is, frankly, a pretty cowardly move. I'm not interested in your performance of empathy (which was saccharinely snide anyway), it's not like your well-wishes have actual utility; what I'm interested in is challenging you and everyone who thinks like you to introspect about your disgusting attitudes which perpetuate the very phenomenon your "humor" is predicated on complaining about. I care about whether you (and others who may read this thread) can learn and hopefully choose to stop fueling a problem that I and thousands of other public health and healthcare workers have to spend extra effort mitigating. So let me paraphrase my question for clarity: Do you actually want to see less medical ignorance in the world? Or do you just want to dunk on it? 'Cos the thing you and many others don't seem to get is that these two goals are mutually exclusive. If you're not going to help make it better, you (and again, I'm addressing everyone who agrees with the narrative implications of your "humor", not just you) could at least quit contributing to classist (and frankly indirectly many other -ists, due to systemic intersectional oppression) paradigms that make it worse. It's your responsibility to adult up and take the opportunity to learn when your behavior is called out as being part of a problem. (Incidentally, part of that adulting up is knowing that a criticism of your behavior is not the same thing as personal judgment/attack on you. When a criticism of a behavior/statement feels like a judgment of you personally, that's another thing that merits examining within yourself.)

Of course not. Quack doctors don’t reference any medicine. In order to be the only ones with their special techniques, they have to make it up.

I think it’s more a joke about how absurd alternative medicine can be so he probably picked the most extreme case. Out of interest how common is it for people to believe in traditional Chinese medicine (I guess this is less relevant if you aren’t from China). Is this just certain demographics? Traditional Chinese medicine like using herbs etc to solve complex medical problems.

@@asdfssdfghgdfy5940 Thank you. I understand it's a joke. I did not intend any criticism of the channel but of something I've seen where some people who want something more "natural" attribute their prefered practices to cultures in a way that feels false, homogenized, or appropriated. The people I know with a preference for traditional medicine are usually Asian immigrants who go to people from the same culture or relatives they referred to a practitioner of traditional medicine. In the later case, they tend to only stick with it if they've had positive results that American medicine did not provide. The people I know are not Chinese but one goes to a Chinese herbalist. The all go to an American doctor though and buy in on American medicine too.

Pretty sure the joke is that the person got scammed by using buzz words.

I recently read or heard a history article on China. Fun fact. When their borders were opened by one of the emperors all the rich folk were wanting exotic stuff from the west. I am from England and we have plenty of our own herbal remedies. Some actually work. The rest, like much of Exotic eastern/Asian remedies are at best harmless and any benefit is from the underated placebo effect or at worst dangerous.

Bc there is good and bad in everything. They don't want the vaccines, but want others. What is wrong with that? Patients have a rights.

I’ve had to ask that same question. Most of the time it’s because they have a family member or care taker who listens to reason.

Yep, it's like the parents who refuse to let their kids get vaccinated because they "don't trust doctors", but then when their kid gets sick with a very preventable illness they are in an uproar that doctors "refuse" to help them. Like the "help" is not getting it in the first place because we don't have treatments.

I'm not even a medical professional and I am constantly wondering this...

When cognitive dissonance becomes physical. Fix me but don't touch me

I mean. A chiropractor has to get a Doctor of Chiropractic degree, which is a 4 year post-grad degree. It’s not an MD, but there’s a fair amount of overlap, biology classes for example. Certainly far more than a physical trainer has to get.

@@ericeaton2386 not a physical therapist though. They also get a doctorate (DPT).

public demand...

You can't say that your chiropractor wasn't being thorough.

Lol

Just read a news release today that lots of mosquitoes in Nashville have tested positive for West Nile. We've had a ton of rain this summer...

Mosquitoes carrying it have recently been found all the way up in Western Washington. Seems it's a nation wide problem, now. Used to only happen down South where it's very hot and humid.

한국계 미국인임?

@@dnafnajo3928 yeah. I'm a full Corean. How about you?

@@snowy_May_in_Korea Korean:) your uncle must have been hella good at studying. My friend is top in the country but still couldn’t go to korean med school

Can we stop calling it 'Western' medicine? It's not specific to any one region on earth, because it's universally practiced _because it fucking works._

You have to give them points for at least admitting it when their kid got sick instead of abusing their kid. Yikes I hope they get the kid vaccinated.

@@janedoe6704 Oh they got the baby to the hospital alright. They also complained nonstop to the doctors about what they 'should' be doing, and which medicines 'should' be given, cuz according to them, they're practically doctors anyway. Holidays have been super fun as they informed everyone how polio doesn't exist, and screamed nonstop at their children for basically existing. CPS has been called given the regular neglect and unsafe home environment. But this is in a very conservative part of the country and unless the child is being s* abused, or severely physically abused, then nothing is done. I'm expecting the oldest to be running away in a few years, and one of the middle to probably have her first run away attempt at age 13-14. My home is open to them.

​@@millersam07poor kids. Thanks for being there for them ❤

Chiros are such a weird breed. It’s like they do some good things and have some good techniques, but the large majority are also absolute whackos. Of the ones I have come across there was a massive amount of evangelists as well. My mum went to the chiro (she also had cancer at the time) and he told her to stop getting chemo and come to the miracle tent where god would heal her. Fcker is lucky I wasn’t there. I’m not a violent person and have never so much as punched a person in anger, but I would have layed him out flat then and there if I was in the room. Anyone who has gone through chemo, or known people who have, know it’s a rough thing to do, and I hate people who prey on that.

@@asdfssdfghgdfy5940certainly even western medicine has its share of wackos… the ratio there is much more “few and far between” as compared to the collective whole of chiropractic. I have been fortunate enough that on the few occasions I have chosen (and even sent by my MD) to see a chiropractor… they have all understood that their profession was not a cure all. Chiropractic is good for what it’s good for, but the best chiropractors are the ones that will tell you to see your MD as needed.

That’s easy. Just find a rich person to find some large scale, double blind clinical trials to see which TCM actually works and what doesn’t. It turns out not a lot of it works, and the stuff that does work is already incorporated into Western medicine, like the active ingredients in medicinal plants.

Doctors? They’re Doctors not ambassadors. They treat people they can’t force people to go to them.

So a Texas mosquito could do the job. Good to know.

@@JOESMITH-qs8ue I was thinking that, just didn't want to be the one to say that

From which end?

you know the Indian governement gave ayuvedics permission to practice medicine in India

​@ht2755 just like the FDA "approves" all sorts of crap that is useless but harmless. The government allowing you to practice quackery is not a proof of efficacy.

If you’re willing to pay the full cost out of pocket, you can go to any doctor or clinic you want. You can take a trip to the next state over. You can take a trip to Canada or Mexico (I would recommend one of the areas not controlled by cartels right now).

Your nurse is 12 years old? That’s wild

Rich ones.

Omg ya he kinda does! Couple smart dudes

He then became a hippie libtard surfer in California lmao 🤣

@@TCHICKIBRAXD No, he continued to be a top innovator .... went on to cure anthrax.

He was talking about HIV because he erroneously believed that HIV did not cause AIDS. A person can be an innovator and also a complete loon.

The placebo is one hell of a drug

The placebo effect is a funny old thing, it implies the body can fix a bunch of stuff but doesn’t

if you practice homeopathy in any form, your profession gets a 'bad rap' because you're a quack and should be licensed to practice nothing.

Yes this is more reflective of the people who use Dr Google to 'research' alternative treatments, just like they use Dr Google to diagnose themselves with western medical pathologies. Definitely not the way an actual trained responsible healthcare provider speaks.