When Impact Drivers Have Too Much Power!! 😳  

as a daily power tool user that impact seems pretty normal to me guy.

The problem is that you bought a single-mode impact. Milwaukee sells a multi-mode impact driver that allows you to control the torque to a degree.

Bought an m18 when you needed an m12

I call setting 3 "destroy", yeah she's a mighty driver

This is exactly why the impact driver torque war is stupid. The consumers are cheering on the companies as the drivers become overpowered for their intended purpose.

When torque settings are needed I prefer a drill.. Set it and forget it

You don’t want it to struggle, having to look at your work is normal.

Yeah that’s because that’s the low end Milwaukee impact. I have the m18 fuel surge and it has different mode settings on which auto stop at different torque amounts

I have an M12 and M18 Fuel inpact drivers. The M18 has so much power it barely impacts and just drives smaller screws straight in. I use the M12 most of the time. And the M18 for lag screws or ather large fastners.

The new impacts have speed control which I quite enjoy

Meanwhile Milwakee be like 'all then need is a fraction of our power' 😂

i broke the bitholder with mine, it was supposed to be rated for impact (brand is Ironside and it was a small yellow bit pack with a carbine hook)

I find yhe torque war between the companies to be rather silly. Back in the early 80s i found an old eletric impact from a factory line for heavy equipment axle assembly. The impact itself, has over 13,000ftlb of torque. I thought that was awesome when i was younger, now i know why EVERY one at the factory was set to the lowest setting, you literally cannot hold that thing without ripping your arm apart and is likely the reason they stopped making them like that. Its so powerful when i had a jig set up to test the torque thinking it qas only maxxing out at 1,000, it instantly ripped yhe jig apart and sent my buddy who was holding the one end down with an attached 4 foot long lever on the end, got lifted up and launched by it so fast he cpuldnt stop the trigger. It was wild

Unironically I use the baby 1.5 batteries on mine so that it doesn’t drive short screws too fast.

Especially when your going through half inch of wood and half inch of drywall can’t believe it’s that strong

It doesn’t mean it’s a bad tool, just the wrong tool for the job.

1. That beam has more ridges and valleys than the western United States. (Sanding or properly planeing would fix this flaw) 2. M12 surge gives the best feedback for installation and removal of household fasteners. 3. The beam has a split at the end. (Epoxy single part quick set)

Which is why I have a brand X 16 volt drill/driver for everyday small jobs. It beats using a hand held screwdriver but won't overdrive like an impact driver.

Finger control tells you exactly how much further to go, without going too far. You'll hear the hits slow down if you use finger control to just apply enough power to turn the screw slowly. When it stops, the screw is seated.

Try the surge now that ones a screw ripper since you can’t hear it impact distinctly

Put it on screw mode or 1 it will work out

True the new Milwaukee stuff is ridiculous, they got me buying the last generation.

Harbor freight hercules impacts have a nice trigger that allows you to go really slow

If you want more feedback from the tool try your regular drill with the clutch set where you prefer.

My rigid has the speeds/impact levels and I use them all depending on the application

It’s the right tool for the job. It’s equipped with a VARIABLE speed trigger. Master that thing and you won’t need a 3 mode.

Try using a drill with the clutch set to the correct setting. That would be the correct way to drive those fasteners without damaging the work.

Lags are intended for shearing purposes, there’s no reason you need to worry about how much compressing it’s doing. You tighten it until the head touches the surface. Done

Agreed, you don't need nut busting torque , I use Makita for the 25 yrs and have always had enough power doing jobs like this or several other kinds of work and not run into problems and some of the new ones have settings to help with these installments 👍

I ordered 12 volts for our guys at work so they wouldn’t tear up our tooling

Triple hammer

I have an electric Rigid and it's the most powerful hand drill I own and the most dangerous. It does not have torque settings and a couple of times it felt like it almost broke my wrist because the bolt jammed but the drill kept spinning. I'm going to try and find one that has the power but adjustable!

do you need an impact for that or would a regular cordless drill give you better feedback

They don’t have power control stages. Dewalt has power settings The price these things are nowadays they ought to put torque settings on them

The M12 installation driver is great for finish work.

Looks like a job for a drill driver rather than an impact driver.

I have a milwaukee 3/8 angled ratchet, I have to slow it down sometimes because it could snap off bolt heads...

Definitely a production tool. Framing etc.

And that’s why I have the Surge! 😃

I love my makita impact for things like this. I do alot of finish work so i know the feeling. Also met a door guy that uses that bosch 4 in 1 and i gotta say that tool is way too overlooked for what it can do.

This video actually makes me want to go out and buy one…thank you

There's a variable trigger like almost every drill or impact on the market. Why most people use it as an on/off switch has always bugged the hell out of me.

I get your point but that is a job for a drill driver with the clutch set appropriately.

you wouldn’t have to struggle to see the head of the screw if your phone wasn’t in front of your face

Does it not have a variable trigger?

My 12v pair does about 75% of my work. then the 20v and 20v high impact wrench -- which I rarely use. Just throwing numbers, but for regular folks who aren't mechanics, 12v usually does the job just fine. If anything's the problem, it's that folks over-torque, stripping, cross-threading, and sheering.

Understandable not to be used to the way they work but for jobs that require more finesse you can use the power selector on 1 or 2 if 1 isn’t enough. Milwaukee impacts kick ass

I own bosch and I can dig this video

In my opinion, it’s a trigger issue not a power issue. For this reason I prefer the dewalt lineup for drivers. Much smoother power metering.

I find that my M12 Fuel is plenty powerful. It’s more powerful than any 18 volt brushed impact drivers and some 18 volt brushless impact drivers. Even the M18 Fuel Gen 3 is ridiculously power.

If you want a tool that sounds like it is struggling while securing a fastener you should try some ryobi!

Just wait till you pick up a gen 4 fuel 😂

You're using the wrong tool for the job, like 98% of people that don't know what an impact is for.

If youre waiting for the tool to struggle, youre doing it wrong. Drivers are for not struggling, that's why they have the driving power of the anvil, multiple settings, variable speed triggers, tightening modes that stop when the fasteners get tight..... You want a weak tool, dont use an M18, stick with your bullsh...i mean bosch.

Try using the trigger like a throttle in your car. I have no issues with mine. If you use it only at 0 or 100% you are using it wrong.

My Milwaukee’s have a lower setting. Do the non-fuel versions not have that?

That’s the baby

This sounds like a first world problem to me. Love my Milwaukee’s but that is a small price to pay. If it’s the gen four then it’s also crazy quiet compared to the rest so it seems extra powerful when it’s really just way quieter.

Same problem for me.. I mostly use molly anchors in drywall most of the time and it drives it through every god damn time.. so I need to re-do the whole process..

Press on the trigger less… it’s an impact that have no variable speed mode (ie speed 1,2,3). My uncle has one… I think it sucks because it’s so weak and you have to get a good sense of how hard to squeeze Bottom line. Get an impact with multiple speed options… I use speed 1 for screwing delicates shid, speed 2 for regular screwing, and the only time I use speed 3 is when I’m using torx screws that won’t be seems

People need to learn how to use variable speed triggers i barely take mine out of speed 3

If you're using you're tool to the point its struggling, your tool isnt powerful enough, and most likely not going to have a good long life. Also, this is what variable speed impacts are for.

Ryobi doing things!

I actually prefer my Milwaukee M12 Fuel Impact (Model 2553-20) because it has different settings. I had that same M18 impact, and it was a beast lol but for more finesse I prefer my M12. Hell, I use my M12 stuff more than my M18 anymore. M12 has plenty of power it surprised me when I bought into the system. But you're right, it doesn't give you any feedback, it's a workhorse.

From what I understand a trick of the trade is don't use ratchet guns on wood usie actual drill on wood, and the compression tension will slow it down the ratchet mechanism will cause it to drive through

Oh i bought something and wouldntchaknow its just too good. They work fine

Thats one problem with these chynese battery tools in general, they have very poor quality triggers with bad or no speed control. Even without mutiple speed settings a good trigger would allow for complete control.

I’d actually say if it can put it all the way in it’s good.

I personally just use my eyes

to be fair there is no way you can determine what the torque actually is no matter what pistol you use, much like a tire shop cannot when they blast on lugnuts and claim to do it all the time or have familiarity with the tool. get it close and then finish with a torque wrench. if you must go for "good and tight" or go by feel just use a socket.

If you want feel and control, just learn how to use a trigger and buy a regular drill. Impacts are not for precise or delicate work.

I gladly prefer a bosch jack hammer 4 years of heavy use no maintenance 10 hour work days Monday to Friday used for gold mining in Mexico vs Milwaukee 2 months of usage dead ☠️ certain tools from certain brands are better 😐 I Like my Gen 2 bosch freak 2 in 1 blue tooth impact 1/2 inch chuck for sockets taking off lug nuts hollowed out center for 1/4 inch bits 🤷‍♂️

I work in HVAC and have one of the first gen brushless HP 3 speed impact drivers (the one with three LEDs on the nose) from Ryobi and I normally run second speed and know how to feather the trigger so as to not overdrive or strip screws. I only break out speed 3 on 1/2" and 9/16" fastener heads. There is a point where too much speed can lead to stripped threads because of too much power.

Aaah so it works, neat…

i’m just tryna park my scorpius in a polaris. without becoming poor.

You can actually hear tone difference as it tightens up to the wood and metal just saying

Get the one with power settings....

There are many things to go into on this here video. Just know that they get more powerful and there are less powerful. Know your tool

If you hear that noise that means it’s struggling at least a little bit

Just f’in send it bud

I personally prefer Milwaukee for mechanic work

That’s why you use the drill and set the clutch😅

That's the weaker one too lol

Agreed

Don’t worry, it’ll break soon and you’ll be using the Bosch full time😅

Why do they call tek drivers impact drivers? Impact drivers have a 1/2" square drive for sockets. Like the original impact drivers that you hit with a hammer. Driver drills have chucks and tek drivers clip the hex shaft bits in.

Two or three clicks past the bottom does most tasks.

The tool is doing it's job and it's your job to use the right tool. This is why instillation drivers and drills with clutches exist. Do you realize how silly "going by the sound of the tool struggling" sounds? Hell, your battery life has just as much to do with that as the impact driver

You could always change the settings instead of running it at full wack 🤔

My Milwaukee is so powerful👆🏻🤓

The new ones have torque settings

You just have to use a crappy Milwaukee bit on it.. I can't believe how bad the bits are vs. the tools.. They round off and slip from the fasteners so you don't need feedback, just hold the trigger until the bit fails and you:re good..

Add a washer. Just say, you might get into troubles there

I was taught that we heat the block and use it to break bolts loose, not drive them in bc you'll strip the threads inside. And to always tighten and torque by hand to keep even pressure with all surrounding bolts so the surfaces mate properly, no gaps or stretching

You would know because your hand would be smacked against the ceiling.

We all grew up watching Tool Time and wanting more Power, now we have it and now you cry. He prolly has a Biden Flag too

I’ll keep my Milwaukee 😊

Milwaukee on top always 👑

I'll take a good impact driver all day over one that struggles. You should start buying tools from dollar general. If that's what you like.

I feel like your asking a driver to to a drills job …. They also make impact drivers with variable modes 😂😂