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@MadhusudanSinha
@MadhusudanSinha 2 месяца назад
So basically his argument is: "since I already believe in god, there must be some rational argument to support my belief which I don't know or won't tell you".
@thesomuu
@thesomuu 2 месяца назад
I have proof.. I don't know vijay read my gmail or not on this topic.. See bro am giving u an example.. Ap aur main hm dono ek pahad se durr khade he aur asman main white ka kuchl dikhai pad rahi he to app aur main Anuman lagaenge ki ee chij kya he. Ap ne apke mutabik idea lagae aur main mere mutabik? Apne bole ki nahi ye ek badal he aur hm bole ki nahi dhuan he.. Ab wo chij asal main kya he ye to na apko malum he na mujhe.. Aur hamara jo anuman bhi idhar he jo hm dono ne socha us white ko dkh kar udhar hamare anuman bhi hmare hi experience ke hisab se he.. So hm apne idea ko idhar sach nahi man skte. Aur jabtak hm udhar nahi gaye he pahad ke piche tavtak asliyat kya he hmne malum nahi he yehi bolna chahiye aur idea hme us pahad ke pass ja kar sachai dekh kar hi asliyat malum ayegi ye bhi sochna chahiye.. Abhi tak hamne jo bola ye vijay ka bhai bichar he ap study kar sakte ho ..lkin ab baat ye ate he ki jab hum god aur soul. Rebirth ki baat pe ate he tab hm koi decision nahi le pate kiyu ki koi to dekha nahi na. To fir anuman lagao.. Abhi isi anuman pe vijay sab ki point contract kar rahe he. Lkin hm ye bata de anuman ke bad bhi bhat praman god ko siddh karte he. Aur Theist bhi logic se banana Chahiye. Aur hm vijay hamesa science science bolte he. Sir apka science consciousness ke badd kuch janta nahi. Error ho jata he aur abhi tak psycho analysis bhi science ke categories main nahi ata he.. Vijay jo bhi point psycho analysis se de rahe he unse unka hi point contradict ho rahe he. Aur fir ek baat science jo he wo repeat experiment ke upar base he aur usse kese hm logo ki kaam pe la sake ye aim he.. Lkin idhar ved main jo baat he wo to rules he usi rules se hi science kaam kar raha he.. Mera ek question jo vivekanand bhi chicago main uthae the uspe thought ye he ki Duniya main hrr ek chij rules aur regulations and Continuity se chalti he ye philosophy he aur ek admi schgea to malum padd hi jata he to iss regulations kiski wajah se kaam kar raha he aur kya wajah he iske piche ye Science se pucho.. Example -water moves downward but why? Who gives the property to that basic elements of water to moves downward.. And another thing the thing or matter which we all sees are also waves and particles but when we sees normally it's as a proper matter .. Why it's happening?( I know this is not for good proof but the thing by which I can establish Adi Shankaraachaary point bramhan satyam jagad mithya) mithya mean what is this we don't know and no one knows but it exists .. U can search alot western philosophies gives that proof ( John locke. Hume. Berkeley and more) and then bramhan satya it means only god is true what is god? God doesn't mean the statue in our temple .. God is thing that beyond our senses etc.. And a of those point can be logically proof.. And main point is proof for god one I given above.. Now another some points.. Science can't explain about thought and when ur base by that basement u r contradicting all others point and that basement can't explain about thought and ur going to contradict god.. O my god! . science can't explain about moral thought. Although science can't explain about human remembering power. It can't explain the main thing that is mind different from matter or not or if it is then who combined those,?? Science is silent here.. I am giving problems that now we have that much of equipment but we r still in thinking but in ancient they all ready has those answers.. ... If we have some point by which we can contradict another point.. by that point by which we r contradicting another points but we can't explain the reality with our those points.. Har har mahadev.. ( isko bhi hmm religion se tood kar human keliye laa sakta he sirf ek naare ko. naki hm kuch ulte sidhe experiment jismain baht kuhch sahi b sabbit nahi hua ha wo possible pe chal rHa he usko pakad ke hmm jo hme rules batate he ( ved) usko contradict kar rahe be batao.. Jo consciousness ke uppar nahi gaya (science) wo usko contradict kar ne ki kosis pe he jo sabko consciousness bata raha he. Aur jante hue ki experiment galat ho sakata he hmm usko pakad rahe he.. Jab ki ved main ye batYa gaya he ki rules ko hm kitne b hisaab se samjhe aur samjhae ye insaan ka mentality proudness he lkin insan rules change nahi kar sakta.. So I think before we contradict the point of God's we must know that ved is also can't explain god they told there way and tells these are rules but rules can't god bcz if rules exist there must be someone who ruled all rules in consciously or continuesly and alot.
@mukta2822
@mukta2822 2 месяца назад
​@@thesomuu god dsnt exist thats y it took such a long answer to explain it.. There is no proof.. Stop trying to make god rational.
@thesomuu
@thesomuu 2 месяца назад
Is there any proof that he doesn't exist..?
@thesomuu
@thesomuu 2 месяца назад
​​@@mukta2822btw.. Don't think rational is the normal things.. If u know hegel and also I think evolution is also happening through rationality and when someone taking the rational path and trying to disproof god then why not us.. And also I don't know man ( or miss) why people putting god in rationalism bcz god can't be known through rationality.. But rationality can help somehow to proof that someone exist.. So I think here we both have rationality and through that rationality u want to disproof and I want to proof... And yes waiting for ur thought man..
@AteetYadav-ep2pk
@AteetYadav-ep2pk 2 месяца назад
Vimoh patience level💹
@Harmanyy
@Harmanyy 2 месяца назад
Level infinity
@Gulfraz_
@Gulfraz_ 2 месяца назад
Main na sehta 😖
@meesumnaqui7930
@meesumnaqui7930 2 месяца назад
Mullah Jalebi going on in circles😁😁😅
@Gulfraz_
@Gulfraz_ 2 месяца назад
All I can hear belief belief belief.
@satkrapp7697
@satkrapp7697 2 месяца назад
Madrassa is a jalebi making factory.........thanx to rangeela Rasgoo-lulla dingi dingi
@luimui3107
@luimui3107 2 месяца назад
dude... I would have lost my mind. You have too much patience.
@reyeseuropeos9153
@reyeseuropeos9153 2 месяца назад
This guy basically said "mere paas accept karne ke liye reason hai jo mai kisi ko batata nhi hun aur aao batao aap reject kyun karte ho"
@jeffstins2030
@jeffstins2030 2 месяца назад
6:07 Lol he’s knee deep in the answer and still missed the point.
@yashwanthchoudary8302
@yashwanthchoudary8302 2 месяца назад
I believe this caller has his own RU-vid channel and tries to prove his religion but fails at it.
@bsnsbsmsb5233
@bsnsbsmsb5233 2 месяца назад
vimoh bhai.. its such a headche to debate religious people😅 hats off to you
@RajnishSh12
@RajnishSh12 2 месяца назад
Bro are they forcing you to practice any religion,you d your work let them do their work
@mdjahangeer3881
@mdjahangeer3881 2 месяца назад
Very sensible conversation. Kudos bhai. Keep up
@stevesmith4901
@stevesmith4901 Месяц назад
The problem with such confused callers is that most people have these kind of debates with themselves in their head and come to believe they have reached a conclusion after rigorous scrutiny. But the moment they have a debate with an actual person, they soon realize there were sides to the issue they had not considered when they had this debate in their minds. Thus resulting in such confusion in thought.
@sujalkamble0295
@sujalkamble0295 2 месяца назад
Is video ko samajhne ke liye mujhe angrezi sikhni padegi. 😑
@GIGADEV690
@GIGADEV690 2 месяца назад
Na that guy is talking lot of confusing circular reasoning
@spuriusscapula4829
@spuriusscapula4829 2 месяца назад
seekho bhai, Hindi seekhne se to bahut accha hai
@whykoks
@whykoks 2 месяца назад
अंग्रेजी के दो पैग लगाओ
@WeKnowIslam94
@WeKnowIslam94 2 месяца назад
Religion hatao Desh bachao
@spuriusscapula4829
@spuriusscapula4829 2 месяца назад
I didn't have this opinion before, but I now seriously believe religion is the worst problem in India. Without it, goons like our current premier would never have come to power. And people would easily focus on actual areas of progress. Like civic sense, education, health.
@devuniquedev1
@devuniquedev1 Месяц назад
Wat a f@ckin misery 🤯 U can only debate such people online..that too with great patience.. Aamne Samne karoge to hath utth jayega 😐 Salute to Vimoh
@gobindachandra11
@gobindachandra11 2 месяца назад
Keep it up bro
@pmis2362
@pmis2362 2 месяца назад
We want more
@thestragequack3598
@thestragequack3598 2 месяца назад
I don't know.
@user-cv9ep7ub6p
@user-cv9ep7ub6p 2 месяца назад
Vimoh you once mentioned a site for career counseling.. could you pl mention it here again.. thank you..
@navneetkaushik2482
@navneetkaushik2482 2 месяца назад
Vimoh bro how do you have such an enormous amount of patience ?
@Nihilistice
@Nihilistice 2 месяца назад
I think people should learn flowcharts so that they can actually maintain a reasonable train of thought.
@SaikatBasak
@SaikatBasak 2 месяца назад
Theek hai
@Nikhil14481
@Nikhil14481 8 дней назад
But what happened in the end?
@cybersid
@cybersid 2 месяца назад
Vimoh is talking about epistemology branch of philosophy.
@Futuristic_looper
@Futuristic_looper Месяц назад
After sometime i would have said "chup lvde".....props to your patience
@aditya.sood077
@aditya.sood077 2 месяца назад
I truly believe that "God" is that one jhingur who keeps buzzing all night. No matter what anyone says, I'm not gonna change my belief. I am a rational person.
@AbhishekPatel-wm1cc
@AbhishekPatel-wm1cc 2 месяца назад
❤❤❤❤❤
@amansaket7160
@amansaket7160 2 месяца назад
Pehla view, sir, advait vedant par ek Hindi video banao,,,plzzz..😊😊
@1000Vlogs
@1000Vlogs 2 месяца назад
shabd praman is the kamjor kadi in epistemology , whoever says whatever , regardless of whatever important that person or book is , it is unacceptable until proved .
@jyotirmoyroy4531
@jyotirmoyroy4531 2 месяца назад
You are doing absolutely right, questioning every logic every theory. it's actually the true use of human intelligence.. But I have to say that what you are finding through many debates that you have done. 'The truth' you will never get the exact definition, because he who claims that he knows the truth and God's existence and he is here to give you proof. They are all like trained parrots who know some theory and have some beliefs. The real truth and God knowing person will never claim they know it they don't care if someone calls them fake or real and they never force you to believe in their belief. "Satya ko janna nahi hai usko jina hai" On the day you understand all the logic and reasons are useless... You want to open the box but you are finding the picture of the key not the real key...
@pmis2362
@pmis2362 2 месяца назад
Mast serial hai
@crazyrishuyt
@crazyrishuyt 2 месяца назад
Steel big fan sir
@realshot9125
@realshot9125 2 месяца назад
He already met a bigger fan than you in Pune airport
@Nickel287
@Nickel287 2 месяца назад
​@@realshot9125someday vimoh should visit a windmill farm He will meet much bigger fans
@subhranshusahu1885
@subhranshusahu1885 2 месяца назад
I am not using the word believe for a week
@MrEmoji-yd6cg
@MrEmoji-yd6cg 2 месяца назад
I know that I know nothing - Socrates .
@nikhilbasotra3285
@nikhilbasotra3285 2 месяца назад
Hi vimoh sir please make video on Muhammad hijab religious beliefs
@eldhoabraham1444
@eldhoabraham1444 2 месяца назад
After skipping a week of Live stream you've developed some patience 😅
@SS-ct4hv
@SS-ct4hv 2 месяца назад
💙💙💙💙💙
@dilipkumar1393
@dilipkumar1393 2 месяца назад
Sir, Sandeep maheshwari uploaded a Video on his sprituallity channel with logical fallacy, corret him .
@HELLO-su7tq
@HELLO-su7tq 2 месяца назад
Hallo uncle 🤠
@SriRadhey_
@SriRadhey_ 2 месяца назад
Accept the debate invitation from ahvaan call of dharma
@vimohlive
@vimohlive 2 месяца назад
I do a live stream every Saturday at 8 pm. Everyone is welcome to come.
@babaguru_ghantaal3363
@babaguru_ghantaal3363 6 дней назад
Nobody knows god, spirituality, dhyaan, yoga is the only way to know god. And its very hard to know god. People believe something about god which they have seen of Heard from people of culture. Believing someone else's words, and experience the god is totally different. For the experience of god our ancestors, rishi muni used to do tapasya, dhyaan. Hamko pata hai god hai, ese dikhte hain, mandir me dikhte hain, Par unke sakshatkar k liye methods hai like yoga.. which is literal meaning of connect with the one. Jab koi claim kar rha hai to try karo na usko. Agar man laga kar karte ho to pata chal jayega aapko
@shamikchoudhury
@shamikchoudhury Месяц назад
Religion and god are matter of faith... faith is belief without rational proof... cannot justify faith with proof and for religious people ot doesnt matter
@MyTubezx
@MyTubezx 2 месяца назад
If there is no God, then who will decide what is good n what is bad??
@VivekKumarChauhan-bh1kn
@VivekKumarChauhan-bh1kn 2 месяца назад
why is it needed to be decided. We know morally what is right or wrong. And its not something which we learnt rapily. Human civilization took time to learn what is good and what is bad. You can still see, in some country death penalty is common, in japan until 2014 teen p**n watching was aloud, in shariya law apostasy is punished by death, so on. So we still face dilemma in finding the good thing. And who knows may be God is the worst. Why we only presume that god is all good. May be he is crook who created this never ending universe, where almost 90% of planets, solar system, nebulas, blackholes, are useless lifeless.
@utkarshsingh-rp2dq
@utkarshsingh-rp2dq Месяц назад
You do.
@rt-cz5qv
@rt-cz5qv 2 месяца назад
😵‍💫
@tirumaleshmani8618
@tirumaleshmani8618 2 месяца назад
I think this kind of arguments of all videos must be compiled/concised into some book to understand all fallacious reasoning... Ofc then another kind of reasoning will emerge. so its a continuous oneupmanship rather than quest for truth as they have fixed something as truth by belief the only thing done is a setting to match it..
@utkarshsingh-rp2dq
@utkarshsingh-rp2dq Месяц назад
There are many books you can read for all this.
@gauravkgautam1463
@gauravkgautam1463 2 месяца назад
Debate hindi me honi chahiye jisse jyda se jyda logo ko smjh ayee..
@Reinrosannir
@Reinrosannir 2 месяца назад
Sab log Hindi nahi samajhte hain
@gauravkgautam1463
@gauravkgautam1463 2 месяца назад
@@Reinrosannir lekin sab log english bh nh smjhte jaise mai
@Reinrosannir
@Reinrosannir 2 месяца назад
@@gauravkgautam1463 compromise toh karna padega bhai
@spuriusscapula4829
@spuriusscapula4829 2 месяца назад
​@@gauravkgautam1463 more Indians understand English than Hindi.
@gauravkgautam1463
@gauravkgautam1463 2 месяца назад
@@Reinrosannir ha lag to esa hi raha h
@sairajbehera5515
@sairajbehera5515 2 месяца назад
I believe only god which is MONEY 💰 no religion is there without money
@AryanVerma-vs5kc
@AryanVerma-vs5kc 2 месяца назад
I Don't have a reason to think that the claims that are made for the existence of god are true
@ex.hindu.now.atheist
@ex.hindu.now.atheist 2 месяца назад
@AryanVerma-vs5kc “I Don't have a [...] god are true” =================== Until now-and now as well-there is no credible evidence, no verifiable evidence that any god exists. Therefore, there is no valid reason to believe that any god exists.
@hideoakb
@hideoakb 2 месяца назад
People so irritating and worst explainers, sometimes forget what they say repeat same things in loop again & again how you sit there and take it? And debate about it. I cant watch video in one sit it take me full day.
@chandeshwardas2763
@chandeshwardas2763 2 месяца назад
Hindi ki prayag kare , Nepal ,india, Pakistan , bhutan, afganistan
@King-AstarK
@King-AstarK 2 месяца назад
In dharam wale logon ko bass bakwaas karni aati hai bkl reality accept hi nahi karna chahte
@dvm9999
@dvm9999 Месяц назад
I know because you dont know. LOL. whole funda of GOD is based on this paradox . All belivers of GOD should read any book on Propositional Logic .
@ecneicsPhD4554
@ecneicsPhD4554 2 месяца назад
You are wrong. Theory matters. It is theory that ultimately determines the method. Not the other way round.
@rohittekchandani5720
@rohittekchandani5720 2 месяца назад
First of all it's not even a theory, it's just a Hypothesis. Also, yes the hypothesis matters but it still remains just a hypothesis if no evidence is presented. There is no reason to believe in that hypothesis.
@ecneicsPhD4554
@ecneicsPhD4554 2 месяца назад
@@rohittekchandani5720It doesn't matter. Whatever you want to call it, the evidence is decided by the hypothesis. You cannot present arbitrary evidence in support or dismissal of a hypothesis. The hypothesis tells you the observables that need to be computed that will prove or disprove the hypothesis. Based on the observables the experimental setup or method is decided for the computation of the observables. This is the so-called 'evidence' for or against the hypothesis. Also, disproving a hypothesis is not disproving the phenomena. It just means that phenomena requires some other testable hypothesis to be explained. You keep repeating the process to get the correct hypothesis that explains the phenomena.
@SeekingTruth-7403
@SeekingTruth-7403 2 месяца назад
Few questions to Vimoh. I hope he sees this. 1. How does Vimoh know what he knows when he says there can’t be any god? What are his methodologies and how can he prove that there is no god using an observable, repeatable process? Yes, we can talk about who has the burden of proof, but just want to know if opposite side has any evidence to prove that god does not exist. 2. What are Vimoh’s beliefs, and what is his view on how life form started? Once again, we would need an observable, and a repeatable process to prove what he knows. Let’s just skip the theory of evolution that tells stories of how a living organism changed from one form to another, rather we can focus on the formation of animate beings from inanimate objects. 3. If somebody says that he “knows” something, did that something come into existence because of his knowing or that something was always there till someone found it? So, if knowing simply means discovering something that already existed, and if knowing is knowledge (we are now talking about observable science); If knowledge is information, and if information can only come from an intelligent being or a form; what is the source of this intelligence?
@VivekKumarChauhan-bh1kn
@VivekKumarChauhan-bh1kn 2 месяца назад
i will try to answer since I have watched almost all of the Vimoh Video 1. Vimoh never said god doesnt exist. He always say, "I dont know, once someone prove it then I will start believing in it". Burden of proof is necessary, because any one can claim anything, so its necessary to prove your claims. 2. Here also Vimoh always say, we dont have clear picture how life has been originated. There is evolution theory which is widely accepted and somewhat seems suitable but we still dont have prominent knowledge about it. We are still looking for answer. Beside we cant rely on religious aspect, because every religion offer their own origin story. And religious theory often contradicts with the current scientific discovery. 3. Well I didn't understand this question completely. Here is what I understood, you are trying to say that information can only be come from intelligent form, what is the source of intelligence? Well intelligence or information is not something which came into existence in a blink. It took a long course of time to gain information. Humans have vast history of experiments, through which they gained information about thing. So its a slow and long process. In stone age Humans didnt have that much intelligence as much they have now. We have collected information with time.
@Hexa_radiate
@Hexa_radiate 2 месяца назад
Blud know the difference between rejecting and making a claim .
@SeekingTruth-7403
@SeekingTruth-7403 2 месяца назад
@@Hexa_radiate Explain
@Hexa_radiate
@Hexa_radiate 2 месяца назад
@@SeekingTruth-7403 The next step after proving something is disproving it. When something is proven, only then can it be disproven if it's incorrect. So, first provide evidence for your claim to explain why you think it's proven, then I'll respond with why it's not.
@SeekingTruth-7403
@SeekingTruth-7403 2 месяца назад
@@Hexa_radiate It seems you missed out the points I shared earlier as evidences, and I've observed this behaviour with most atheists who does very less to read, and research. Disprove those first, and then come back with your ideas.
@chandeshwardas2763
@chandeshwardas2763 2 месяца назад
Please speak in hindi
@chandeshwardas2763
@chandeshwardas2763 2 месяца назад
आपसे अंग्रेजीमे वहस करने बाला सभि धार्मिक हैेे अनुसारको डिसकस करने
@chandeshwardas2763
@chandeshwardas2763 2 месяца назад
हिन्दी दोनो को आता है तो einghish kyu?
@chandeshwardas2763
@chandeshwardas2763 2 месяца назад
Angregi kitne log samjhate hai india me ?
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