When Japan and America Got Different Mario Sequels 

there’s no reason to use GBA footage over NSO. what you did was fine. people saying it needs to be GBA are just being pretentious and have a superiority complex.

@@cwega2463 Yeah for real

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I actually didn’t know that. It’s nice hearing something new out of this story that literally everyone already knows

It helps to know this. As without this info, it makes seeing characters like Birdo or Shy Guy in Mario nowadays a little weirder when you know they came from an entirely different game at first. Besides, it explains why the owners of DDP wouldn’t just own the rights to Birdo or what not since it’s a licensed game. Aside from a different deal that could’ve existed if this always was DDP originally in another timeline.

So… Mario 2 actually was Mario all along…

@@silveramyknux241 Converting ddp into a mario game also helped the game be far more successful then it ever could be because the ddp characters would most likely never be used again after the festival ended as ddp was basically a promotional game for the festival and nintendo would most likely have otherwise skiped a localization in its original form due to losing the license to the mascots after thier sponsorship deal for the festival ended as there are tons of promotional material and festival merchandise showing mario and the ddp mascots together(plus the game didn't really sell that amazingly well in its initial release. Even in japan more people likely played the mario usa version over ddp). Retooling the game helped it reach far more players then it ever could as doki doki panic.

Yes but it eventually got a ALL stars SNES game where Super Mario Bros the real SMB 2 (called the lost levels) + the Doki Doki Panic game but the one with Mario) and Super Mario Bros 3 all on 1 SNES cartridge and yes Lost levels/ the real Mario Bros 2 is really BRUTAL that's why the NES game in Japan got replaced by Doki Doki Panic but with Mario Luigi Toad and Peach as party members for the USA NES Super mario bros 2 game.

The American version is better tho

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Wait they did? (Is it because they labeled deadlock as the fourth game)

Yes.

that's Mama Luigi to you Mario

I wonder how the earliest builds of yume kojo looked

Also with Lost Levels, what happened there was basically just the Mario team were experimenting with the VS. system (basically an arcade version of Famicom hardware or something) where they had a lot more space to just create a bunch of new levels for Mario 1 that they didn't have space for before, and so they just started having fun making levels for themselves that were much harder than the released game in order to match their own skills (because they were quite good at Mario given they made the game lol). And they found the harder levels they made for themselves fun enough for them to play that they decided "why not release this so other super skilled Mario players can have fun too?" and so they did and that's what Lost Levels basically is. Miyamoto detailed all this in an interview a WHILE back, it's somewhere on Nintendo's website I think. So Lost Levels is basically just a big DLC expansion for "super players" but released as a separate game because, well, DLC wasn't really a thing yet, it wasn't from the start a "Let's make THE sequel to Mario" kind of game or anything. And honestly I'd say the devs weren't wrong, Lost Levels is really fun once you're a super master of Mario 1 (and specifically Mario 1, not later Mario games) in my opinion, after I got really good at Mario 1 overtime I've now grown to love Lost Levels and have a ton of fun with it. It's just that like 95% of Mario players don't fit into that demographic the game is targeting so it ends up seeming way less appealing to most Mario fans.

@@legoboy7107 that's pretty much evidenced with vs super mario bros sharing few layout sections with lost levels

@@ssg-eggunner Yep. That's right.

Well, to be fair, neither series has a super solid identity at the time, at least compare to today.

it’s just a case of not knowing what direction to go in, and throwing whatever at the wall to see what sticks. it was normal back then, and was kinda expected to change up every game.

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it doesn’t. Doki Doki is japanese onomatopoeia and represents the sound of a beating heart. it’s often used through context to represent love and romance. for this game, the context implies it’s referring to nervousness and, well, panic.

@@cwega2463 I was making a joke

You'd honestly be surprised how much English is used in Japan (not saying it's too common, but plenty common in video games)

It’s called EmuVR

In Sonic Origins, CD is set before 2 in the Story Mode.

@@Mari_Izu Origins is irrelevant, it don't count.

@@High-five-ghost-fan13 It's an official game dumbass, it counts more than fan theories.

yes…

I'm 27 / almost 28 and know what a floppy disc even though my childhood was just after the age of floppy discs

I wouldn't even say it's a paradigm shift from the original (later Mario games though, yes), it's basically just the harder half of the same game for the super skilled players who mastered the main game. But it continues the exact same core design philosophies as Mario 1, just now with the expectation that the player already knows how everything works and has mastered it all and so it doesn't have to teach anything to new players like Mario 1 did, it's like "You know and are good at everything we've taught you before, now here's the REAL challenge for you to throw all your skills and knowledge at." If you don't meet that level yet though then the game's gonna be rough, but that also means it's not for you yet. And yeah, it's really not THAT hard, people describe it as the "hardest, most unfair game to ever exist" when that's really not true at all. At the end of the day, it's still just Mario 1, but Mario 1 for people who have already fully mastered Mario 1 (and likewise that's what the bonus worlds A-D are to the main game of Lost Levels). Also here's a tip for that leaf-blowing springs level, it's not actually a leap of faith if you know the strategy: You can always tell where Mario is and thus aim him under these circumstances, a. if the screen is scrolling full-speed then Mario's in the middle of the screen, and b. if you're holding left and the screen isn't scrolling, then Mario's all the way on the leftmost side of the screen. If you know this thing about how the scrolling works and can take advantage of it to know where Mario is, then 7-3 is no problem and you can always aim your landing on the platforms easily, no blind faith required. It's an example of what I described where the game expects you to already know everything of how things work, even stuff like the mechanics of the camera/scrolling. Hope that helps!

@@legoboy7107 That's really well-put.