Hero - Shield, Mother Earth, Double Beat Victor - Double Beat, Fury (Rage on weapon) Flick - Double beat, Thunder Rune Killey - Double Beat, Double Strike, Fury Runes Sheena - Double Beat, Double Strike, Fury Runes Luc - Cyclone, Flowing, -doesnt matter This is extremely OP but if your having a hard time beating the end game boss then you can't lose with this set up 👍
@@SeventhheavenDK Yes it's definitely a boring end game party that can smoke the main boss easily....but it definitely isn't worth the time to grind to get the runes for this setup. It makes the game way too easy.
Hey thank you this is one of my favorite game. So many memories went back and I totally agree with the tier list. As far as I can remember my end game was Hero,Mcdohl,Flik,Viktor,Luc and Shiro
Nanami with double attack rune and fury rune is by far the best character in game to me. It can attack up to 6 times with insane power, often ending the battle herself in one turn.
@@karlo9572. I always pick Valeria. I don't use any of them, but in War Battles Kasumi is nearly useless while Valeria is a beast. The ninjas are easily gotten anyway.
Good list but I think for Casters you missed affinities. So Millie is a great mage for example as she has 40% more damage with Fire and Lightning. Rina on the other hand has only normal damage for all of the damaging spell runes. For physical attackers 3 open rune slots is just better than 2 so I think you overvalued many physical attackers with good stat growth as they'll get outclassed damagewise.
Yeah, Sheena and Kahn are two characters that I was surprised at ranking them lower. They both have three rune slots and even Kahn with the Double Beat/Strike Fury combo is going to hit harder than a lot of other characters and has about the same str as Chaco.
@@equipbasicsword Kahn can hit hard, yes, but he can't hit often. That is because his fixed weapon rune lowers his hit% by 15% which hurts him quite a bit and I'd rather build any other 3 slot character.
@@jm2270 My point was more that he has three rune slots, so I would pick him over Viktor for example. Characters with three rune slots just have a natural advantage over those who don't at least when it comes down to the physical runes.
@@mattstorage7805 There's still characters like Mazus and Luc who are better. Millie is definitely A tier though but you wouldn't know it if you didn't know about affinities. I don't think the ranking was out of malice.
Hopefully there will be good people who modify this game, I really hope there is a NEWGAME+ Because RPG games are not only about fighting the final boss, or the ultimate weapon, but you have to keep on playing them, even if you only get an achievement, I really hope that NEWGAME+
This is the best Suikoden 2 analysis I have known so far. Your objectivity in evaluating the characters is just on point, mate. I do not always go with the strongest characters, though. I always pick the best looking (Flik, Camus, Miklotov, Lorelai, Sierra, Rina) and the ones with the coolest looks (Killey, Clive, Pesmerga)
Oh definitely you should probably take him and Luc but I like Luc so I might be biased but throw on the blue gate rune and his pale palace cleans house
@@jonmcknight18. Luc in Greenhill is so unnecessary, he only makes the area more tedious. It's easier to just hit the auto battle button to clear the mobs than to wait Luc's animation to finish in every battle.
The characters in the tier list is ONLY the characters you can use in battle.. there are also characters that you use in war (strategy mode) and there are characters who opened up shop & minigames in your base
I used Bob recently for a play through. Never knew he had an affinity for the darkness rune. Slapped that on him and he became an effective back row magic user
Soon we can all enjoy the HD remaster and do it all over again :D great list btw. Only issue I have is the fact that both kasumi and valeria are hot af so I can never decide....whyyyyy????? xD
Most of these are spot on but Zamza with fire sealing on should at least be upper mid tier, the double damage and unlimited rune use for first half of game is pretty stout.
at last! some ppls who value Zamza!!! idk, based on his design and movesets he's just so nice to watch and use! not quite overpowered, still gives us the challenge lol! i mostly used him as my front row hitter. my setup was likely the same. Zamza, Vincent, Oulan (man i love this girl!) Kahn, Simone, MC
Trying to remember, but I know I made it a point to bring Hix and Tengaar along, plus Kasumi. I feel like I'm due for a replay, but might try a lower-tier build (monsters? Viki? hmmm). Because Flik and Victor were required in Suikoden 1 (in the front row!), I know I made it a point to use them as little as possible. Great video. I forgot about half of these characters!
I’m ashamed to say I’m seeing some of these characters for the very first time 😂 didn’t know a lot of them even existed. One of the best games though. Loved it. Still have it stashed away somewhere at home.
My end party so simple. Rikimaru+Amada unite attack Kinnison+Shiro unite attack Hero (focus on support so i attached water and eart rune) Luc (focus on attack rune so i attached fire, lighting and wind)
For me; All playable characters units are the best as long as they got extra rune slot for *Double Beat Rune* ; This Rune is the farmable in early game as well
Yeah,, as a player on early game, i’m patiently farm Double Beat Rune at North Sparrow Pass, it takes 2 hours to collect (at least 5 Double Beat Rune) from Rabbit opponent’s
Now that its out and receiving mostly positive reviews, would you consider doing a who is best for Cristales? The dynamics of some of the characters in this game are WILD .
I remember having flik in my end game team for Suikoden 2 when I first played it. (Granted I didn't get all of the characters) so I'm planning on going through it again with the save data of Suikoden before I go again.
surprisingly for me , the best character if we include glitch , is Rina , when she joins at level 19 , we can bring her to matilda to get 3 rune slots , then when kobold has been unlocked , we can get double beat , double strike , and fury on her , with kindness rune minus affection get her to 999 attack (kill her 10 times with fire lizard) she can solo every boss starting from our first castle , minus the double strike rune every first time characters you recruit before fall of muse can get to lv 80 and every lv 20-29 character after that can get to level 64-68 before we recruit matilda knights
@@locloudanerpgtbh im amazed you can make this vid without knowing the glitch 😂 i even know that glitch in my first gameplay where internet wasnt that common. Just by my rpg instinct No wonder mostly i disagree with the list. In the video you said phys wins over magic but you put mages that has locked runeslot in the high tier 😅 Edit: oh btw, all the animal chars are great early game. Shiro for example. Their natural STR are high. In the late game tho, they are trash simply because they dont have weapons. No extra STR and no weapon rune. It means alot if you can deal 7k (crit) per hit (means 3,5k extra dmg) Since this is an old video, i really appreciate the content but maybeeee try to understand the game better since you are making tier list based on their usefulness
Its actually kinda crazy how op the hero is in the game. It was so fun playung this game the first time and feeling like my main charecter was unstoppable
Viktor is God Tier until late game when he really starts to fall flat stat wise. Suikoden 1 he was not that great. He had horrible accuracy and is really unusuable without the clone rune. I hated being forced to use him since I then had to choose between Pesmerga and others for my 3rd frontliner.
Like when there are so many awesome characters and u just have 6 spots on the party :v . BTW cant wait to try out Eiyuden Hundred Heroes, we are almost theeere just 5 days left 🤩
My endgame list - Front Row 1. Hero - all round best 2. Pesmerga - Magic and damage dealer (especially with darkness rune suit him well 🥰) with high defense if use best equipment 3. George - Tank with high defense if use best equipment also damage dealer - Back Row 4. Mcdohl - all round best 5. Mazus - best magic dealer with 3 open rune (best for advanced rune combo like rage and thunder and pale gate also) also his last MP rune is twice 6. Kahn, why Kahn? with 3 open rune and best with his resurrection rune, also he is magic and damage dealer especially when critical hits he use his trident from his coat 😱
Victor, Sheena, Eillie, Nanami, Shiro and Luc were my favorite characters. Victor, Sheena and Luc don't need an explanation. We all know why they are there. I know Shiro is not that strong, but I love him. He opens all the runes really soon, and since you don't have to buy him weapons and sharp them, you can save a lot of money to spend it on other characters. Eillie is a mediocre wizard, but I love her interactions with the main character. So I bring her just for fun.
George Prime my absolute favourite suikoden character . He is probably by far the best melee fighter who ever existed in suikoden history. But although absloutely op in melee his cryptonite is magic which makes him so balanced after all.
Thinking back, I believe when it comes to Mazus, he actually IS the very last character you can recruit because his recruitment requirement is that you have the other 107 characters.
I don't think it is bro. I had other characters to get after him. That mukumuku was my last character. Could never find him until I randomly looked behind a tree one day 😂
Not really. I think it doesn't matter if you have 108+ characters. What really matters is you have 102+ Stars of Destiny (those heroes in the tablet, behind Luc in the castle), and have liberated Greenhill/Muse...
Ah, the age-old debate among Suikoden II fans! 🌟 Crafting a tier list is always a challenge with such a diverse cast of characters, each with their own strengths and quirks. I'd love to hear your thoughts on who tops the list and why. It's the unique strategies and personal experiences that make these discussions so enriching. Let's dive into the analysis and celebrate the depth of Suikoden II's roster! 🎮🏆
I usually go with Riou with Blue Gate, Viktor with Killer Rune and Double Beat Rune, Flik Thunder Rune and Rage Rune, Tir or Kahn with Resurrection and Rage Rune, Rina with Flowing and Mother Earth Rune and Luc with Cyclone Rune & Blue Gate Rune
if i want to have a "broken strong op" team at the end, i always go for Anita and Valeria. the falcon runes are just to good. doing double damage is the same as using double beat. with the benefit of not being counter able. (+ getting countered while using double beat is the worst that can happen... especially in the Luca fight) not to mention the falcon crit multiplier (x5) that outpaces the missing 3rd runeslot.
You got some of these totally wrong. Shiro, you get him super early and his strength stat simply blows everyone out of the water until you can upgrade your weapons to a decent level. Put a Double-beat on him and he will carry you through early/mid-game hard. The only downside is that he falls off hard towards the end game but this is the case for 90% of characters anyway. Millie gets 2 additional Rune slots early and has multiple A Rune affinities. Nanami belongs to low or low/mid tier. The only good quality is her speed and since you will be stuck with her throughout most of the game u may aswell just slap the spark Rune on her. You could easily reglace her though. Putting Mazus in mid tier is also nuts. Thunder/Blue gate being stuck on him doesn't make him bad since they are amazing Runes and he's got an A affinity with both. Easily the best mage along with Luc. Putting him in mid tier cause u get him late doesnt make sense either, in that case u would put Killey there aswell since he unlocks his third Rune slot at level 55 (even later in the game). My god tier: 1. Sheena (you unlock his third Rune slot fairly early - pre luca) 2. Viktor (he's a powerhouse until lategame, where he is still useful tho) 3. Shiro (Double-beat and he'll sometimes clear out a group of mobs all by himself. Falls off ultra hard around midgame) 4. Luc (arguably the best mage considering how early you get him and you can always have him in your party) 5. Killey (number one late game but gets his third Rune slot around rockaxe/l'renouille which is very effing late. However is still top-tier as a magic user) 6. Rina (unlocks 3 Rune slots early and if it wasnt for her horrible strength stat she could be number one) 7. Mazus (insane damage capabilities but you unlock him late) 8. Chaco, Sid, Hai Yo (3 Rune slots but unlocked late) 9. McDohl (insane all around but its a pain in the ass to go get him in your party) 10. Flik (amazing all around stats, sharpened weapon early, B affinity for lightning. But you sadly dont get to use him much until later when u have better options). The Hero is also insanely good. The Bright shield Rune is enough to heal your party all throughout the game. Blessed Oath has the ability to put Viktor equipped with double-beat and double-strike in berserk which makes him nuts. The ultimate ability does 2k damage and heals the entire party which is just insane.
I agree, shiro carries half the early game by himself. I really like clive, you can stunlock everyone he doesn't kill, for quite little investment. And Sierra, who for some reason dodges everything for me.
Front line: George, humphry, Persmaga? Back row: hero, usually two mages( usually Tengar and one other.). It's been so long since I made it to end game it's hard to remember lol.
4:37 Nina an average support Mage? I was very surprised with this one. She is not a support mage, she is a Fire mage and one of the best at that. She has great status growth, and she can deal great physical and magical damage, and she has more durability than your pure mages.
everyone - OMG the heroes so amazing and he's just young hero- huh? seriously dude's suddenly got the hero status without even aspiring about it, dude got glazed so hard. lol
How to get 2 Jowys? How is this possible?? I always went for perfect ending but I never had him in my group again… please help ! Thanks and love from Germany, Rina
Personally my end game party is flick, miklotov, camus, Riou (hero), mcdohl, and mazus. But I have also substituted miklotov for Oulan with fury rune on occasion. Either party never fails
Hi! I just downloaded an emulator to play this game. I remember I finished this game way back and nanami died on my ending. They say to get the good ending, I need to recruit all the characters. How do I recruit all the characters if I can't get Mchdohl? I didn't play s1 and I don't plan on playing now. Is there a way I can get Mcdohl even if I just play S2?
I find killye is the real bastard on this game, im using the stone bug on him and invest the time to grind him up, and the rest is history, he end the boss fight in one turn, and make any party member that i invest and spend lot of time to grinding them (valeria and sheena) is become useless, cause killey getting the first turn to attack means no one having their turn.
doing 108 (70ish playable) characters isnt gonna happen in the space for a comment lol, so instead im just gonna tell you the top tier: Riou, you have to use him and why wouldnt you anyways, best healer/good at everything else. Killey/Sheena this is how to break the game, put any combination of double strike, double beat, warrior, killer and rage on their 3 rune slots and watch yourself do upwards of 10k damage lol. Mazus/Luc: best mages basically depends on whether you want a bunch of different runes with luc or just skip to Mazus using a thunder rune anyways. Sierra is also a very good attacker with 2 rune slots, double attack and a permanent thunder rune on her weapon as is viktor/flik but only 1 hit and more balanced stats. Then you can either go mage warriors like Camus/Kahn/Pesmerga or full attack with Georg/Gijimu/Clive/Bob. Sid/Chaco just make it in cus they have 3 rune slots but dont have the stats to back it up, but do have a unite attack.
The squirels deserve a higher tier... Crazy strong at high leves, fast and their unite atack can one shot bosses. Kinda funny making Luca Blight flying away from battle
In my opinions, the characters that have to be in the god tiers are: 1. Kahn -> Strong attack and runes 2. Bob -> Werewolf + double attack + berserk mode are unbeaten, especially when critical attack appears 3. Killey -> strong double attack + double beat + berserk 4. Humphrey -> strong tank, great defense and HP 5. Georg -> strong tank + great attack 6. Pesmerga -> high attack + high defend 7. Gijimu -> an underrated character which also has the same characteristic as killey Cmiiw. Based on personal experience, was beating the final boss without using too much runes unless there was dying character. 😇 On the third turn, Bob alone killed the final boss' rune at his werewolf mode + berserk 😅
I fully admit that I passed up on Valeria because well, Kasumi (and you get the other ninjas sooner this way). My end game team was Riou(Hero)/Victor/Flik/Mazus/Clive/Eilie. I know Rina's better, but I always had Eilie in my party instead when possible since I just liked her as a character (and still do, of course), lol.
Me again. Well... Georg Prime, OMG! There is a powerfully tanker/damager. He is like that movie guy more stronger than the main hero what have much large battle experience but came to help on final scene just for hero do the final strike on villain. Sorry for my english
Personally I'd bump up Tsai to low mid tier. Early game he's at least as solid as most of your other options, but unlike most he also unlocks a second rune slot as low as level 20.
Werewolf Bob with Double Beat Rune, Fury Rune, and Exertion Weapon rune is a force to be reckoned with but I guess anyone would be. Maybe I just like having a werewolf teammate with health regen.
