Who's Your MVP? | The Inside the NBA Crew Get Into Heated Debate Over MVP Candidates | NBA on TNT 

Like this man doesn’t have an entire real name

Cmon man. Don't tell me I am not real.

Lol Most people have two letters IN their name.

@@kantofriedchicken3742 Is this KD's burner?

@@EastofVictoriaPark what do you mean?

😂😂😂 it’s true cause Vanilla Ice?

Was he talking about himself 🤷🏾‍♂️

@@hoodfella166 Actually growing up in the 80's the only two rappers I knew was Vanilla Ice and M C Hammer. So he was in the mvp convo during the 80's. His song even got in the Ninja Turdles movie.

@@beetlejuice4357 🤦🏿‍♂️

It was a terrible analogy. In music there are plenty of examples where someone with no talent has a hit single or album. You can’t get lucky and accidentally stumble your way into the NBA MVP conversation.

I was thinking the barbershop in Coming to America" but same vibe :-)

And Ernie is black so it's a perfect chemistry

They’re not knowledgeable tho. Just cause you played doesn’t automatically mean you have all the information. They need someone with the information to help guide their actual serious basketball discussions. They just talk past each other. Entertaining but not informative.

@@ismailmohamud12 My man, you don't win MVP in the NBA if you don't understand basketball.

Jordan basically got looked over time and time again for MVP his first few years in the NBA because his team didn’t win and even during the mid years when they were winning. What that tells me is it isn’t all about numbers. It’s about effecting your teammates production as well due to your presence on the floor.

@@user-xe5fz6se9j exactly, the value of a player should usually translate into winning

Team success and record always plays a part in who is actually awarded the MVP.

Jokic won MVP ahead of Steph last season because of this same criteria (goal post) you are shifting. Please keep the same energy this season! Respectfully.

@@im_kwamz Not trying to shift any goal posts. The MVP award is really meaningless, and is intended to be ambiguous. I am just going off how the award has been historically awarded. Had Steph managed to take that undermanned team to a sixth seed or higher last year, he most likely would have gotten it over Jokic in my opinion.

Facts.

The same every year 😂

@@mr.awesome8021 Shaq and Chuck with samely different points about what should qualify as the mvp yrs after yrs and yet we never get bored of it. Gotta love these guys!

It always breaks down into defining what it means to be an MVP

Actually 🔥💯

Bit disrespectful but got your point 😂

Lol

Don’t play with Bizzy Bones like that .

so is emlegend

Compazzo carries Jokic

Vanilla Ice has been the MVP of that year. What's controversial with that? Drake didn't exist when Vanilla was there.

@@Hello_BeautifulPeople Facts

Not just Shaq he was defending jokic too. Malone is right. He is the most disrespected MVP of all time. Giannis is up there too as well

He is not defending anyone he is just the only one making sense. Mvp is an individual award like he said . There is only so much a player can do to make a team win by himself.

@@Biteableraccoon He is bias because he is his coach, but nobody calling Giannis the best player in the league today either where he was flat ut MVP and Defensive player of the year contender and his 2nd best player is Middleton. The most disrespected is Giannis and it shows last year playoffs

Jokic is better then embiid, Jokic 25-14-7 Embiid 27-10-4 You mean to tell me he’s only scoring 2 more points then Jokic and 4 less and 3 less assists per game then embiid, not to mention Jokic is playing great defense this season and carrying a team full of injuries, and 2 out of their top 3 4 out, Shaq even backed Jokic up this video yes Shaq said embiid is the best right now as we speak. But like we say time and time again the season is not over, wait for Murray to come back and then MPJ regardless of regular season they’re gonna make noise in the playoffs. Jokic is carrying a team full of injured players to 6th in the west

Giannis is better than both

They did the same with Mitchell a couple years ago

They always bring him up when he plays and then he gets injured and we always go in circles about him. He is walking injury

@@darkotosic3637 only missed games with covid this year he's lost weight and he's staying healthy

Yup...and now. 3 weeks later. Embiid has move to the front of the MVP race.

@@magmax76 Just to play trash in the playoffs... embid is a fraud MVP

let's see the playoffs tho

@@rad8357 Right, that's why I said potentially, if he can somewhat achieve Duncans playoff success and win a few chips being the main guy then I think the comparison would make sense but yeah we need to see him have similar success first

what the spurs did doesnt' work anymore. as a team you have to pair multiple all stars superstars to compete. that's the new model

bucks last year was a major exception b/c everyone was injured

Only difference is Duncan was an All-Time great defender and Jokic is Average at D but will not hurt the team usually

That was Shaq who said he was the worst analogist ever

@@PhdMusic03 Chuck agreed with him at the end.

Bro do better smh. How you getting this panel mixed up 🤦🏾

@@PhdMusic03 chuck said the same thing at the end of the clip

@@smn2300 he didn’t chuck said it at the end of the clip

NBA on ESPN and NBA TV will never come close to these guys…. EVER!!!

You have to understand what they are saying in the first place 🤣

@@abhinavpala1920 We understand

I was cry laughing listening to these fools tonight 🤣

Unfortunately people just dislike harden's play style despite his greatness

And I.T

Dawg russ’s team was dookie my mans was averaging a 30 point td he deserved it his best teammate’s where oladipo and fcking steve adams

@@guymuhimbaze3703 30 on poor efficiency and infinite turnovers. Sounds like a guy on the Lakers roster now.

A Third place Harden led Hou team wasn't beating the first man to ave a Triple Double since Oscar Robertson.

One hit Wonder

Ice Ice Baby. And Jean Mourat, Charles's candidate.

@@cjfrm3658 It's because he was white AND had a hit song.

Ninja rap from tmnt II was good

@@PorkBelly- It wasn't good, it was popular. lol.

Then Kenny “expect for the rockets” 😂😂

They are

If you're a numbers guy you should pick the 3rd player

@@shortie9103 AGREE JOKIC BEST STATS AND FG% PLUS NOT SCORING UNDER RIM ONLY LIKE GIANNIS THO GIANNIS IS BETTER 2 WAY BUT IM GO WITH JA MORANT HE CARRY TEAM NO ALLSTARS HELP AND HE IS 6'3

@@zzzvain9710 Ja better make all the noise he can now cause Zion bringing down the hammer when he come back

I personally believe Jokic doesn't have enough wins to be in th discussion. Esp if we leaving out KD, Derozan etc

Combine everything you said with giannis’s improved passing ability and I agree he’s the front runner for mvp

@Javier Gonzalez also fair point. I have no doubt nuggets were on their way to western conf finals before the Murray injury

Giannis has a full roster and still 4th IN THE EAST. If he was missing Middleton and jrue all season the bucks would be lucky to make the playoffs. Nuggets 6th in THE WEST with no MPJ and no Jamal Murray at all this season. If winning should be weighted that much then derozan and cp3 should be the front runners.

@Javier Gonzalez but he does have them . We have to go on facts not hypotheticals lol

Yep giannis KD and joker front runners atm… Currys fallen off since he got the 3pt record

@@narutouzamaki136 I’d put embiid in there too, 76ers can’t win games without him

Jokic has been more consistent and had a heavier load than both of those guys

@@TheNamesDitto nuggets are 2 games above .500 stop it

@@TheNamesDitto the nets have the 3rd best winning percentage when KD plays this year, Jokic is 2 games over 😳

Jokic probably should be the MVP

He should be! He's single handedly keeping his team out of the play in tournament!

I completely agree brothers, i just said it cus i find it funny he is obviously the mvp but they didn’t really even talk about him

@@soundwriter3083 no

well last time I checked jokic is the current MVP so I don't get what's so funny

Kd always been playing good, great in fact. But in no way is he on giannis’ level.

KD leads the league in a scoring with less team loses

@@mariosnum1fan I do agree that Giannis is better I’m just sayin he been killin it all year

@@mariosnum1fan you smoking some strong if you think Greek better than KD lol

@@mazzitrille5605 that’s his opinion bro sheesh.lol

You're delusional. They're barely above .500. All his value comes from the offensive side of things. Giannis plays the least minutes and is a force on both sides. Not even close.

It’s not that hard to put good numbers up on a bad team

@@chrisvalentine2740 How? He's second in defensive BPM, is 4th in most contested shots in the league and his opponents shoot 7% less on FGs when he's guarding them. Nuggets defense is one of the best in the league with him on court and is THE worst when he's off the court. Don't go along with the stereotype. Man deserves all defense this year

@@roostarhead3353 He's taking less shots than Embiid and Giannis wym?

8 triple doubles as of last night too, most players won't hit 8 triple doubles in their careers and it's onky halfway though the season for Jokic...

Definitely not His team isnt as good Curry didn't have an all star all year

@@lebronblew5finalsnottop5ne22 bud if you looked at the actual voting you would notice that as of right now wiggins and klay are top 4 in their categories, no other buck is top ten 🤡🤡🤡

@@lebronblew5finalsnottop5ne22 Warriors have killed it in games where steph played bad or was out.

@@aidanc8075 So you start to put your belief to those dumb fans votes now? Lol. Tho I agree Steph's been falling off the cliff in the mvp race. He's been cold since December. Giannis, KD, Demar, Embiid, and Ja should fill the top 5 as of now.

@@iMacxXuserXx485 That's a lie tho mate.. If you mean when he's mediocre (meaning when he has nights like 8/21 or 22 shooting attempts) then I agree they still able to win those gms. It's when he shot horribly when they tend to lose games. Nights like 4/21, 7/28, 5/21 with the only exception I think when they won against Miami as Poole was going off that night with 32 points.

The competition also matters. Some big games against top teams like the Nets and Warriors. They have a tough stretch with Memphis and Bulls. He shows up for those two he is the best player right now for sure.

Serbia STRONK

Yeah and I hear without their point guard being healthy they’re going to get swept in the playoffs😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Thanks Kenny Smith

@@bobripkey3924 Quit being salty towards him for no solid reason at all. Just say that you don't prefer him and we could move on.

@@judyclarkson5887 he’s awful.

@@leemcqueen500 each to their own

@@leemcqueen500 Being awful is like the defining characteristic for all of them but EJ 🤣

LeBron missed too much time so I would replace him with Morant. I think Joker and Giannis should be top two and then Curry given who they haven't had due to injuries on their team. KD has Harden. Derozan had a stacked starting 5 right now and Embid also missed too much time. Consistency is important not just getting hot for the last month or so. I would put Giannis over Joker given record so both record and numbers count. I put Joker over Curry since you need to be a two way player adding to your how important you are but Curry is having an amazing year with 2nd and 3rd best players out with Klay just coming back which is why they are my top 3. He gets doubled most of the game and is still getting past 27 points. He more important than KD and Demar who don't handle the ball as much.

Shaq has some of the greatest nicknames of all time: The Big Cactus, The Big Aristotle, The Big Baryshnikov

But no one in the last 50 or 60 yrs had an average of Triple Double plus he never missed a game. Its a bit hard to pick between the two at that time.

@@kantofriedchicken3742 and Russ had the better story

Harden was robbed

@@bbswag5420 oh no

@@bbswag5420 32 11 11 season deserves an mvp

Coz they are all Pisces

@@newage6764 don’t bring that into this lol

Well, winning matters. Every players has an ability to put up great numbers but it doesn't matter if your team is losing. Perfect example would be Russell Westbrook way back in OKC days when he puts up great stats but is losing.

You are acting like Jokic is some great victim. Literally won MVP last year. Giannis has played at least as high a lvl. Giannis taking it. Winning gotta matter.

If we follow shaq, people will stat pad to win mvp. And the word "valuable" means youre valuable to the team. Your team is winning because of you. How can a losing team find value in one player.

kobe should not have won MVP in 06 lol.

Somebody on them bad teams gonna score 30!!!

True true

Facts

Nah, Jokic and Giannis is the clear mvp.

I feel like they went that entire segment without even mentioning Lebron James. That is an impressive thing to do when talking about the NBA. ESPN would say it is impossible.

@@corbin6304 I mean bron is averaging nearly 30 as a center

Not to mention seven assists per game. For a center.

@@johnbrowntheprophet Not good enough. The reason such skills is not needed for a center is because those are other player's role. Jokic style of running the offense unfortunately takes away other guy's game. Really think about it. If his two best players are out, why is he scoring the same number of points? Shouldn't he be averaging even more because he will get more shots? He doesn't score many because he's efficient. He stays efficient because he only score that much.

@@markarmage3776 - So what’s your point, exactly? That Jokic shouldn’t be the MVP again? 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

@@markarmage3776 - So what’s your point, exactly? That Jokic shouldn’t be the MVP again? 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

@@johnbrowntheprophet Yeah, pretty much. Last year, Jokic win because Embiid wasn't playing enough games. Last year, Embiid has better records, average more points. The difference is that Embiid was injured and playing less games. This year, that's no longer the case. Both teams have dropped significantly in the seeding, but their stats remaining mostly the same. With both players missing their second best players. The difference is that Sixers remained top 3, while Nuggets is 6th. Jokic shouldn't be MVP again, and he won't. He's 500 points and 300 assists short of Westbrook record to be getting MVP at 6th.

To me Chuck was off on this one

You’re gonna compare the first triple double season in 20+ years to what Jokic is doing this year? You sound dumb.

@@swizzy215 yeah Jokic only has the best player efficiency rating and box plus/minus in nba history right now

@@swizzy215 jokic is currently on track to have the highest PER in a season of ALL TIME. This is just as impressive as averaging a triple-double for a season. Maybe even more impressive considering other players have averaged a triple-double, whereas no player has had a higher PER. Just speaking facts, mate.

@@harrykarl3210 casuals mate

And? Is getting to the line not a skill? Is it his fault teams can't contain him so they foul him?

@@mjtingle1 none of team cant contain both of them just one of them is getting calls

@@truthtruth1856 oh give me a break. One knows how to draw fouls and One doesnt. They are drastically different players, just happen to play the same position.

@@truthtruth1856 not a knock on jokic. Both totally elite talents but very different. It be like knocking giannis cause he gets most of his points in the paint.

@@mjtingle1 i cant give you a brake because you obviusly dont watch Denver games cant draw a foul??? you kidding right

Haha but Jokic will win 2 MvP 💯😜

But wins do??? Get out of here. Giannis had the best record in the nba twice when he won MVP back-to-back. Also best PER ever. Jokic needs to maintain to the rest of the year and win more games

..kenny talks just to get air time

It made sense to me

He made no sense cuz he’s talking top 5 as if the convo was about the whole career lol , the convo is MVP of this season

@@joseph5589 That nonsense made sense to you?? Clowns that aren't funny should be on ESPN

I can rarely figure out what point Kenny is trying to make …

Only if your special like giannis jokic embiid

@@razkable All MVP’s are special. Takes a unique and talented player to win that award

But those big men plays like a guard now. Jokic is a point center. Embiid spends a lot of time outside the paint and shoots a lot of jumpers and 3s. And Giannis mostly faces the basket and drives 10-20 feet away from the basket.

Not American either

@@yeahyeahyeahwhat6271 American don’t want to play in the paint anymore

if you cant impact winning than youre not that valuable

Then why didn’t McGrady win mvp in 03-04? When he was winning scoring titles? Because…. He was scoring a lot and still losing.

@@Johenz Jokic carrying a G-League roster to the 6th seed doesn't make him valuable? Curry in 21' averaging 32 a game on all-time great efficiency isn't valuable because his supporting cast wasn't good enough to be a non-playin team? what are you even saying rn

@@Johenz if you think Jokic isn’t that valuable you are a casual

Steph had MVP numbers last season. Literally carried his team. Only reason he didn't win it was because of lack of wins. Joker is in that position this year and his individual numbers are better than last season but the team has less wins so far. #KeepItConsistent

If you actually understand any of those analytics, you would see that those methods are flawed and can be manipulated. Jokic is manipulating them very well. Jokic goes fishing for efficient shots, that's why his field goal percentage is high. He run the offense, he can pick great shots for himself and then pass it to the other guy if he doesn't feel like it. That's different from Giannis or Embiid who plays according to their point guard running the show. If the guard made a bad set, it forces Embiid or Giannis to take the tough shot, because they're the best players. And they play like that for a reason, both Giannis and Embiid don't have the skill of a point guard. Jokic efficiency relies on the Nuggets catering to his style of play, you put for example Chris Paul on that team and Jokic efficiency will drop, because he has to play according to Chris Paul running the team, less assists, his field goal will drop because he'll have to take tougher shots depending on the sets that the other guy run. Jokic is a good player, but he's manipulating analytics. Last year he averaged 27, this year he averaged 27. Same assist stats, a few more rebounds, not that impactful for a center. Everybody who plays know that if your best players are out, you have to score more points, because you're the best. Jokic didn't do that. He stayed the same, because only that way, can he be efficient. We see this all the time, good players stepped up when needed. 2020-21, Steph Curry stepped up when both Klay and Durant is out, averaging 32 from his normal 25 2018-19, Chris Paul came back from an injury, so James Harden stepped up, scoring 36 from his normal 29 2021-22, Lebron James have to carry the load due to Anthony David being out and Russel Westbrook being bad, he averaged 30 from his last year 25 Jokic pad his stats in a modern way, he does it discreetly, refusing to take tough shots , refusing to change, you keep your efficiency high but your team suffers, that's modern stat padding.

It should be a big factor though

every time shaq won hes team was winning

@@hkace Jokic won it and his team was the 3rd seed, and they got swept in the 2nd round. Steph was in the discussion last year and his team was in the play-in. And what Shaq said. Westbrook won it and his team was the 6th seed.

@@lokiurush2613 a factor yeah but not as big.

The best of player of the team always got the credit and the blame , thats why winning is one of the basis for MVP, Julius Randle got booed because Knicks are losing he is their best player but if Knick is top seed in the east he will be MVP for sure. Lebron can put up numbers right now but the fact that he is also not playing defense doesnt mean he deserves to MVP also. Lets be honest most of the successful teams in the NBA is catapulted by their best player, please name me one MVP candidate that has been carried by his role players?

Barely above 500

@@godsandmonstars everybody in love with Stats … it’s crazy

Ya. Hes carrying the team on his back. No help whatsoever

@@godsandmonstars it’s MVP not best team record!!

@@godsandmonstars Without the 2 & 3 best players on the team.

Only 1-6 going to play off. 7th and 8th seed can miss the play off, just like Warriors missed last year. Just like Shaq, you should inform yourself about rules. If we go by that logic LBJ should be included in MVP race and I want Lakers to miss the play off.

Only Russell Westbrook in the history of the NBA from the 6th seed has won MVP average a triple double stat padding on a bad team. Jokic is not gonna do it unless he wins more games. His stats are good but not triple double good. When Giannis had the highest PER he had the best record in the nba twice when he won back-to-back MVPs.

@@kalinwang1 it is not Jokic's fault that his superb assists are wasted by missed easy and/ or open shots by his teammates

why? teams who limp into the playoffs statistically have almost no chance to make an impact for the championship. Limping into the playoffs is not even in the same ballpark as a top 4 and top 2 team most years.

Nah cuz half the time the best player on the best team ain’t even playing full minutes cuz they blowing everyone out. See golden state, stephs years

Passion yes.. but all based on eyetest and never stats or almost never..

The ryytcjl

@@danielabatabogdanov8586 a

well its a weekly show. If they had to do it every single day as the other shows, it would be very different.

Feels like good times at the NBA.So much quality on many teams.Fun stuff.

Draymond is winning DPOY

@@sheygiya13 lol

Draymond will win unanimous dpoy

@@Armenian_King lol, keep dreaming. Too many great defenders and better defenders than him. Defenders that can actually guard 1 through 5 dreamon. guards 1 through 5. Who is locking down Ayton on the suns Draymon or Giannis? Now there are way better bigs than Ayton. I am trying to make you think

Chuck Is wrong..jokic giannis are ouplaying joel...

Ok then…..if that’s the case then why didn’t Steph win MVP the season he averaged 32ppg……

@@CxrlJ Because Jokic had a better all-around season.

Exactly, the reward you get for having the best record is a ring 🤷‍♂️

Stephen curry

@@corpyhogan4433 u can’t be serious right Curry had the better season. The only reason he didn’t win was because his team was barely in playoff contention….

No point if you're not helping your team win. Answer this. If two players averaged 28/10/6 on 50% shooting but one players team record was 55-27 and the other was 27-55, who are you going for MVP and why?

I gotta disagree. That kind of thinking is how you get players like Westbrook. Just stay padding their stats so they think they’re the best. Nah, you gotta bring wins to your team. If anything they need to bring in win shares into it and definitely turn overs.

As the Most Valuable Player, your value still should be shown with how your team plays. If you're scoring 27 ppg and your team is garbage regardless of whether or not you play, your 27ppg loses value.

@@seshadhri_s Shaq said as long as it is a PLAYOFF team; if that 27-55 is a playoff team then that player should be included in the MVP conversation. Chuck and Kenny only wants players from top 4 teams.

@@seshadhri_s But yall dont realize any guy putting up these kind of numbers helps his team win, its not his fault the rest of the team is trash. Take lebron for example, he's averaging like 28/7/7 but his team is trash, how is it his fault? one player can only do so much. But you take him out of that team theyre gonna win even less

Nuggets 6 seed. Giannis is my MVP, unless nuggets get in the 4 spot or above

its what you expect when your second greatest player is arron gordon. Everybody else in the debate has a way better team and are playing around the same splits.

@@llkingproductionsl2154 Jokers teammates aren’t great as the Warriors or Bucks. However, if we overlook the record then the MVP would go to guys like Ruthell Wethbrick who have great stats but aren’t on a top contender. Russell puts up stats but I wouldn’t dare trust him to win me a championship.

Im not comparing Russell to Jokic, he was just used to get my point across. As to why we take record into consideration

U gotta look at the whole situation, not just list basic stats.... giannis defense puts him right up there even tho joker has slightly higher numbers, it's not "obvious" no matter who u got

🎯

so who is your MVP then?

@@benteuno5082 lebron

@@benteuno5082 I gotta give it to KD. Highest PPG, crazy minutes, carried to top team in the east. My underdog is Jokic though, statistically he's having an all time season.

​@@MalachiteKiwa fair, but people need to understand that this race is fluid, we can't make final conclusions during the half of the regular season

somebody gotta add that one to his basketball reference page

All the advanced metrics I've seen show Jokic then Giannis as the best players. Others drop as far down as 10 on some.

Yup. It’s really not even close. Joker is willing his team to wins as a point center, and playing great defense as well. They just stomped my Blazers and it was Joker that carried them through the first half. He makes everyone around him better. Made Jeff Green look like an all star tonight.

They have to be higher than 5th seed, there team I mean

Dog water 😂😂😂

Brooklyn Nets.

MVP of the league , not MVP of the team

@@armandorojas7093 Huh?

Jokic is one of the highest rated defensive players this year..

Jokic is 2nd in defensive BPM

Good point

I know. I’m so shocked people aren’t talking more about him. He’s singlehandedly dragging his team to a strong playoff spot but I feel like I haven’t heard anyone but Chuck mention his name in the MVP conversation.

@@coby4480 he's get sick or an injury will pop up , nothing to see here...gianniss deserves it , better record and they are currently beating the warriors 97 to 67 live rn... 29/9/9 already in the 3rd.. don't bring up Joel embid please he's not that guy, never made it to a conference finals .. with so many stars on his team. GREEK FREAK For mvp

@@lh1533 Giannis has a strong supporting cast behind him. Joel is single-handedly dragging his team kicking and screaming to the playoffs.

And still not the best center in the league and he never will be until Joker is around.

Minutes per game - PER stats Jokic is currently winning in that race :D

Sorry dpoy draymond all day

The most valuable player in the league has always been the guy who's impact is so great his team is winning because of it. If you pull Nash out of the Suns those year the Suns would end in the lottery draft.

@@joweydelanota7421 and some how James harden only has 1

@@michael6601 as is right

Kobe should have won more with shaqs analogy

Then russel Westbrook should have several dor averaging triple doubles on bad teams

Exactly, I know they lost yesterday but they were missing 5 of their best defenders

@@trinbaker993 right their missing most of their bigs Jones went out 1st minute into the game they had no one really to protect the basket if Bulls get a decent rim protecter rebounder they might can get deep into the playoffs finals wise

@@d-nice4311 oh yeah, there’s rumours about getting Mitchell Robinson and I hope they go for him cause he’s a great rim protector and rebounder, when bulls are fully healthy which they will be playoff time and they have Mitchell Robinson then they could surprise people

@@trinbaker993 Knowing the Knicks, they'll give you Mitchell Robinson for your Hot Dog vendor.

@@jrob4795 😂😂😂😂

They give me that early 2010s grizzlies grit n grind vibe

On god , they scary good

Jokic and curry could literally take a water break every defensive possession and only play during offense and their fans would still think they are better than everyone

@@dominiquebrown2890 huh they both stepped up alot in terms of defense this year

If that’s the case then Trae young is top 3 MVP, he’s the only dude in top 5 scoring and assists on good efficiency too, what would u say about that ?

@@ChaposShoota Shaq said playoff team, Atlanta now is currently in 12. Chuck and Kenny only wants players from top 4 teams.

@@kamotetops1572 exactly, but u can’t separate like that cuzthe nuggets although they’re the 6 seed, they’re only 1 game above .500, it’s either your team is one of the best or it’s not and nuggets are definitely not one of the best in the league right now…

@@ChaposShoota I missed the part you said about his defense. And advanced stats.

@@recoil53 do we talk about Steph or jokers defense ? Jokers is triple Traes size so of course he will be a better defender and Steph has one of the best defensive players in history on his team in Draymond 🤣 advanced stats ? Your one of those guys I see 🤣 u prolly think joker is the best player in the league huh 🤣🤣