Why did EVERY dual use Stadium FAIL? 

Butttt what about o.co?

Was It Worse Than "Bottlegate"?

To quote a wise man in regards to Cleveland stadium “you are a factory of sadness I’ll see you Sunday”

At least you're not Detroit. Lol

As much as it was awful, I still have fond memories of freezing my nuts off on the bleacher seats in the dawg pound. Go Browns

I can’t stop laughing. But it’s probably a valid point.

Yes, nobody could get any work done having manscraped themselves the previous night.

... and you guys wear girl pants. The future is doomed?!!!?

Ron Jeremy is to thank.

Men and Women

meanwhile in Japan they score touchdowns on homeplate.

Been2 All50 going for Touchrun or Home Down lolol

I didn't mind, I always got a kick out of watching the centerfielder crash into the goalpost

The only baseball stadium that actually worked for football was Fenway Park.

Never been to Oakland but even on TV It was miserable to watch because it's just a bad look. Why is the field split in half by multiple sports.

It's a pity they never built that "rolling roof."

That would be a sight for sure.

So both stadiums eat poop? I think I’m mixing 2 videos together. 2 stadiums one cup

Arrowhead is not a great stadium. It basically looks like the old Giants Stadium, which was shit

I mean it helps that the Royals season is usually done by the time football season rolls around and I say this as a royals fan

TGSGAMER360 nah

if you want to pay for all the content you watch

@@JuanRodriguez-mr8ql tbh i'd rather watch free content

Just fast forward through it like the rest of us

Other channels plug the sponsors *AFTER* the content of each video. At least the ones I subscribe to, anyway.

Yo honestly I said “oh hey that’s the vet” so many times in this video before realizing it was a different stadium lol

@@domanddev These stadiums were very similar. Here is how I'd group the multi-purpose stadiums. That is, in terms of similarities . Atlanta Fulton County Stadium (Atlanta) Riverfront Stadium (Cincinnati) Three Rivers Stadium (Pittsburgh) Busch Stadium (St. Louis) RFK Stadium (Washington) Veterans Stadium (Philadelphia) Oakland Alameda Coliseum (Oakland) Angels Stadium (Anaheim) Mile High Stadium (Denver) Joe Robbie Stadium (Miami) Jack Murphy/Qualcomm Stadium (San Diego) Astrodome (Houston) Metrodome (Minneapolis) King Dome (Seattle)

RFK was successful cuz the senators left, giving the redskins the field

@@willp.8120 The only difference between Atlanta Fulton County Stadium and Riverfront Stadium, Three Rivers Stadium, Busch Stadium. and Veterans Stadium is Atlanta had real grass and the others had astro turf. LOL

RFK was very good in the 60s and 70s that is not failure...

@@soshsi At that mark the ad is still going. Bad joke or bad at counting?

Why? I got to see some nice ass

But I like the girls

R. W. Thanks

Soshsi Strike no you

MH: Absolutely! Was about to say the same thing. I've attended games in both, and both still look remarkably "modern." "Everything's up to date in Kansas City..."

@@SAHogan-ih3bo ...and it cost them $70 million to build two brand-new stadiums, while the mere "renovation" of Old Yankee Stadium cost New York $100 million.

DL: Of course we're also talking 70s $ in the case of KC's stadia.

@@SAHogan-ih3bo Regardless of the dollar-value of the time, you must admit, Kansas City got their money's worth. Veteran's Stadium in Philadelphia was built around the same time, and cost $63 million. Yet it was one of the worst of the cookie-cutters. Kansas City built two near-perfect stadiums, for not much more than that.

@@davidlafleche1142 Absolutely. Couldn't agree more--and both stadiums are beautiful to this day. Love seeing them from I-70 when you're approaching K.C. from the east.

Qwerty1 yeah but seeing soccer lines with football lines really gets confusing whereas at MBS in Atlanta you don’t see that at Gillette Stadium there is a possibility of seeing both even before the soccer stadiums was being built

Those aren't dual-sport stadiums because soccer isn't a sport.

FireMarshallStev yes it is even pro wrestling is a sport lol

Sebastian Huth oh shit 😅

FireMarshallStev basketball and hockey have dual sport stadium

the difference there is that both pitches are still rectangles

Yes thought I was the only one!!!

Same. This is why I loved playing with Miami and Oakland in season mode back then.

Candlestick Park!

Was awesome having the dirt Infield on the football field.

The Vet!

Is it because they were so similar? Asking because I'm not a baseball fan and have NEVER been to those stadiums.

@@evangel1460 yes. the term for them were "cookie cutter" all 4 had massive seating and astroturf

@@evangel1460 basically someone just hit copy and paste when designing them.

Hell, if you weren't a sports fan, you could stand on the mound with no blindfold and not know which one you were in. Good lord, those stadiums were f'ugly.

Yep cookie cutter staduims were cities way of going cheap.

Though dated I think Kansas City definitely did it the right way. They didn't stick it to there fan bases and demand massive billion dollar stadiums at public cost instead of private. So I view Kaufman Sports complex as a win-win. Renovated them or modernized. It's too bad more cities in the 1970's didn't try and duplicate that pattern with shared parking facilities and a smaller beautiful baseball park next door to a big huge football stadium. Would have saved a lot of money in the long run. I still think its silly for owners to want a new ballpark after only 25 years that means they didn't build it right in the 1st place. Looking at you Texas Rangers, Atlanta Braves etc.

Right.

I guess they just needed to make a video.

I guess that's a nice way of saying we were stupid.

they served their purpose very well.

@Costa Zambaras It depends on perspective. In the California Bay Area, Candlestick (49ers) and the Colisseum (Raiders) lasted decades.

Because Kansas City was somewhat forward-thinking and decided to build two dedicated stadiums next to each other.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Arrowhead Stadium undergo a massive renovation?

@@kevinyang6254 Yes. Just like most remaining stadiums of its age (e.g. Lambeau Field, New Era Field, etc.)

Kevin Yang yeah

Kansas City only had the whole western half of Missouri in which to build. Certainly a factor.

Cleveland used the same one for over 60 years while it seemed like every other city was building new ones every 20 years

@@kdwaynec And lost the Browns as a result

@@user-otzlixr I did read it. The Indians and Cavaliers were granted new facilities while the Browns were denied because of their lease. Cleveland's big mistake was isolating Modell by denying him a stadium but building a new ballpark and arena. You can't grant one team something and deny another and expect to keep a team, especially when a city like Baltimore is ready to build a stadium as soon as a team commits to coming.

Actually it was B-I-A-C-T-H but I’m glad someone else noticed. When I saw that I immediately went to the comments to see if someone else noticed.

ArmadilloLover99 I know it was biacth but the reference is a bit different

I guess these nobody and no one memes will go over my head forever. 🤷‍♂️

@@TheLegendfrom205 Who from what?

well said

I hope the A's stadium proposal is legit. Not an NBA fan ,so i don't care about Warriors going across the bay.

Not a A’s fan but do like the new stadium that the A’s are getting

As a lifelong A's fan and Oakland native, I never realized how badly we had it until I went to other baseball stadiums. Now that I have, I know how transformative a new ballpark experience would be for this fan base. Fuck Mount Davis.

Do you guys think that the Raiders name should remain in Oakland and the team itself get renamed once they move to Vegas?

what is it from, need to know for "scientific purposes" hurr hurr

@@user-73a Its just a stock video www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1021985851?irgwc=1&Affiliate&Amarelo%20s.r.o.&

I'm a dad and there's no way I'm banging that.

Royals & Arrowhead were built in a particular alignment with each other to facilitate a big arched rolling roof structure that could be moved over one or the other stadiums during inclement weather. Ultimately, the cost of the idea kept it from leaving the drawing board .

Philadelphia’s stadium’s are all right next to each other

A's might leave Oakland

@@jon8342 pffff you mean like they said they would every year for the past 20 years? And Mt. Davis should definitely go.

@@jon8342 They're trying to stay in Oakland on the waterfront north of Jack London Square. Unfortunately it's almost impossible to build anything in the Bay Area. Even getting housing approved is a fucking nightmare

I feel like the money they'd spend on removing Mt. Davis would be better to save for the building of a new venue entirely.

Target field is gorgeous (in the summer) as a brewer fan I can’t wait to check it out. Good riddance to the metrodome. There are moments or a brief second that I miss country stadium in Milwaukee, but really I don’t. Those stadiums were all replaced for a good reason. Just be lucky you lived long enough to see them both.

Riley Berggren - Also, the Vikings had priority except for the World Series, requiring some scheduling quirks.

However for 37 years of Minnesota gophers college football they moved due to it not having good attendance and lacking a college campus atmosphere.

Kenny Louis actuly I heard that the As are getting a new stadium

Two Miami’s stadium is still standing

Two: Oakland and Toronto. Both of them retain a multi-use layout despite the fact that in both cases the football teams have recently left or are about to leave. Hard Rock Stadium in Miami doesn’t really count because it no longer accommodates baseball after recent renovations, and it wasn’t truly multi-use to begin with so much as it was a football specific stadium in which a baseball field could be awkwardly crammed.

kurtis johnson BMO FIELD has 2 teams playing there.

Now Soldier field will be a multi purpose stadium. Chicago Bears and the Chicago Fire. An MLS soccer team

Long live the bath hipsters!

I take 🛁

Bathes

What is this shower you speak of?

Sorry, i use the washing machine.... whats this "shower"?

Dude, I lost it when I saw that!

That short-haired girl is FINE. I wouldn't even be mad lol

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I'm dying to know the source of that clip!

@@NEPats79 I'm pretty that was just hilaruous text placed on stock footage.

The Model T would be illegal to drive, since it couldn't sustain the minimum speed of 45 MPH on a highway.

@@davidlafleche1142 I literally just "wasted" twenty seconds to Google the top speed of a Model T. They can apparently get between 40-45 miles an hour (depending on the build year).

@@davidlafleche1142 Who said it had to be driven on the highway? I see them all the time going to the grocery store or car shows or just out for a Sunday cruise. One looks like it was just built, even though it is 100 years old.

I had attended Pirate and Steeler games many times during the 70s. Loved that stadium!

I went there once only for the Pirates and its fine .

The steel under the fans feet gave Three Rivers a great feel. Otherwise, it was a cookie cutter ash tray like the three others like it.

I never went there

The most recent snow game I remember was a few years ago (maybe '14 or '15?). Philly played someone in a heavy snowfall. The snow was several inches deep on the field (might've gotten up around a foot at heaviest) and stayed that way because it kept snowing during the game. Of course that affected play; everyone much slower, people slipping, ball doing funny things, etc etc. What struck me most though, was a post-game player interview. The reporter asked about the challenge of the conditions, how hard it must've been. The guy (I don't remember who) said something along the lines of "It was great, it was like we were kids playing sandlot football again. Everybody was laughing. Most fun I've had in the NFL."

Too much risk for injury. Artificial turf might not be as fun for the fans, but all you have to do is watch footage of RGIII's knee get torn up at a muddy FedEx Field during a playoff game to understand why this is a problem.

@@cragnamorra that's awesome!

@@danieldougan269 people need to remember that no one is forced to play sports. We're not ants that are given our destined jobs at birth. You play contact sports, shit happens. I don't care if it's more risky, it's part of the game. Football was played for decades in harsh weather. The guys we consider legend now days made it through all that. It's like NBA players crying 82 games is too much even though everyone before them had to do it and did do it. Many players complain about artificial turf and say it hurts way more to play on than regular turf. Lately snowflakes have been saying NFL should be flag football because no helmet or pads can protect the players.. AGAIN no one forces guys to be athletes. It's all part of the game.

I remember Shady McCoy saying he likes snow games because the ground is softer than when it’s just cold and feels like concrete

I've been of this opinion for many years now.

In Seattle the Sonics talked the city into assuring there could be no NHL in the remodeled Key Arena. A decade later the Sonics didn't like the Key so they demand the city remodel it again. The taxpayers said hell no so the NBA left. Now the nhl wants in so it's being remodeled again partly at taxpayer expense but it's got to be configured for nba too just incase they ever decide they want to come back

One potential problem is that the basketball floor has to be removable. It’s possible that a conversion crew worker installs a floor board wrong, and a mishap occurs during a game, causing a player to get injured.

I don't see that as big a problem though, hell you have 3 teams in Staples Center and its fine. The only real issue (that I know of) was the Islanders coming to the Barclays Center. They really fucked up on that one because I believe one side of the ice you can't even see if you happen to be sitting on that end. Literally cannot see below you, so if the play is on that end of the ice, tough luck, gotta look at the screen. Which, by the way, isn't even centered properly for hockey. It sits off to the right side of the ice (facing the logo). Such poor planning with that. There is a reason why they are moving back to Nassau Coliseum.

as long as the arena’s built with hockey in mind it’ll be fine. barclays wasn’t

Riverfront was the most "vanilla" of the cookie-cutters, with absolutely no distinguishing architectural element.

So many teams have some of their best years and moments tied in to dual use stadiums though... The Phillies 3 World Series trips and 1 win, Cincinatti Reds and "The Big Red Machine", The 70's Pittsburgh Pirates teams, The Steelers "Steel Curtain" era and 4 Super Bowl wins, 1980's St Louis Cardinals teams and "Whitey Ball" etc....All these teams played their home games in multi purpose stadiums To just write off dual use stadiums as "Concrete donuts" is dismissive and ignores a lot of great history and awesome moments for these teams and their fanbases imo...

And now both teams suck in really nice stadia! 😁

@@davidlafleche1142 I'd have to disagree with that somewhat because that look is exactly what the Reds wanted at the time.....Bob Howsam wanted the stadium to look super clean and modern..and it did...It did not look tacky like some of the others...The original Tall Dark Green outfield wall with the wide yellow stripe on top was completely symmetrical and no advertising was allowed by the Reds on that wall in the 70s.Part of that was also the "futuristic at the time" addition in the early years of metric distances being included under the Distance in feet..In my opinion The worst stadium was Atlanta Fulton County Stadium, followed by Three Rivers Stadium in Pittsburgh .. I think Riverfront was better than both...From the outside the stadium was majestic as it gets, far more so than Great American Ball Park.. or Paul Brown Stadium . Yes the amenities of both are better on the inside, however they are not 1 billion dollars plus interest better...especially after they took out the outfield section of Riverfront to make room for Great American...I think they even went to real grass before they tore it down, and, if not. they could have...For 50 to 100 million they could have made the place very nice..which is a far better deal for the city being that the stadium was still relatively young. Riverfront had a winning and historical aura about it that neither Paul Brown or Great American have. The 70s Reds were arguably one of the greatest teams in baseball history and the 80s Bengals went to 2 Super Bowls. The teams that have occupied the new stadiums have for the most part been lousy from day 1. The outfield wall in the corners of Great American needs either to be raised higher, or moved back because it's one of the shortest and closest in the majors and because the Reds have never been known as a team loaded with pitchers that could keep the ball inside a normal park, let alone this one...Its going to be hard to keep any quality pitchers long term in such a park. If Wrigley and Fenway can be saved, then for sure Riverfront could have been saved..Its hard to believe but Paul Brown and Great American are within a decade now of being as old as Riverfront was when they tore it down...And what do they have now..A Destroyed aura of winning history and a Billion plus of borrowed debt... In retrospect, it was a bad deal in my view...It doesn't make sense to spend almost 30 times the amount they spent on Riverfront and then watch the total trips through the turnstiles decrease by 50%

@@JKillackey62183 Couldn't agree more..All of these new stadium deals were outrageously overpriced and overly burdensome on the finances of the various cities for what they got in return...Spending just 1/10 of that money on the existing stadiums would have been a far more sound decision and their incredible history would have been preserved also... I dont care what anyone says, the old stadiums were a big part of the heyday of sports in general back then..Despite the massive deficit spending on these new stadiums, the interest in Football or Baseball today isn't even half of what it was in the old stadiums.

That place is a funding disaster, that could have only been approved by crooked politicians.

Its cuz marlins fans aren’t stupid enough to actually watch a bad team

Look Joe Roby built a stadium for baseball and football. But it wasn’t until 1993 when a MLB team started playing there. But as you know the Orange Bowl was torn down that had been infested with rats and cockroaches. For the Marlins Park. Now if only the owners would put a team together that the Miami residents would go to is another issue.

Triple Digitz27 Now that this season is over for them (105 losses), they can say goodbye to Starlin Castro and Brian Anderson. The two players on the team with more than 60 RBIs and 20 HRs who will probably get traded for table scraps and cash to pay the bills.

Nicholas Gauthier they will probably trade castro, anderson is just 26 he will be good for the next 5 years

Even earlier, you had Dodger Stadium, Candlestick Park, and Angel Stadium. The latter two were originally built as baseball specific parks, but had a football team shoehorned in later. Angel Stadium smartly reverted back to a baseball only park when the Rams left LA the first time, while Candlestick soldiered on longer than it should have as an awkward multipurpose stadium, even after the Giants left for what is now Oracle Park.

It was basically new, it hasn't happened in 20 years lol

And the funny thing. Is it was the Rodeo in Houston saying it wanted a new stadium that got the city behind replacing the Astrodome.

ForeverRanger 91 I know that was true for Three Rivers winch was build and was step up to mostly host Pittsburgh Steelers home games because during a Pittsburgh Pirates home back on July 4th or 5th 1999 Jason Kendall broke his ankle when it got caught in the first baseline rug trying to beat a infield bunt and was out for of that season the injury was so bad it is on a lot of top 10 worse/most devastating injures in Baseball history list.

And to think that the Coliseum was rated one of the best MLB stadiums in the mid 80s (after the Raiders left the first time). The Raiders returning and building Mt. Davis is what ruined it, along with age.

They were both built in the 60s.

Both were built in the 60’s

And both still stand

@@Goode2ya And both teams probably wouldn't turn down a new stadium. Or another city that would build them one.

My thought exactly.

Soldier Field (1924) and Lambeau Field (1957). Next oldest is Arrowhead, opened 1972. Except for those, New Era (1973), the Superdome (1975), and Hard Rock Stadium (1987), the rest were all built after 1995.

@@35mm21 I agree, I was waiting for a little bit about dual use stadiums that were beloved and ripped from the hearts of fans unwillingly. Camden Yards is great and all, but nobody wanted to be rid of Memorial. Not to mention calling what the colts did "abandoning" the stadium, considering the city sued for ownership of the team to prevent them from leaving, and the prick owner moved them out in the middle of the night to avoid losing a court battle.

@@timfortune9 soldier field don't count, it's been rebuilt

@@timfortune9 soldier Field is completed in 2003, they razed the old stadium and built a new stafium inside

Drams O'Scotch no one cares about soccer

Drams O'Scotch no one cares about you or your imaginary friends

unop aplsdn Well if you cared enough to reply to Drams O'Scotch than I guess you're wrong no one cares now right?

@Ithaca Thats been said now, for over 30 years. Still chasing down MLB, NFL, NBA & NHL. :-)

Long live Fives stadium fetish

@@McAdvertisement my typing looks so bad😂 but i got a heart so i guess it was worth it But long live FVP stadium fettish

But you don’t have a heart

@@amannazeeri6429 once given, if you then edit said statement, the heart goes away...

@@insertcolorfulmetaphor8520 oh well i had it

That was the 70s. Baltimore started the modern style of stadiums. Kansas City still has the old style of stadiums, they are just single use. Kaufman is a no frills park, Arrowhead is probably the same. I haven't been inside Arrowhead.

The company that built Camden Yard is basically building most if not all baseball only stadiums. They are the best stadiums to experience overall (aside from the crazy old history places which you just feel when youre there). Like hate all you want on the Marlins but the park experience is amazing (if for now you take the actual team performance away) I'm sure it's like that for any new stadium. Cause the experience in Tampa is awful.

In the sense of 'purpose' building, yes, KC was the first city to separate their baseball and football teams. Baltimore (Camden Yards) was obviously built just for baseball, but it also was the first of the 'baseball only' stadiums, that incorporated the 'throw back' look of the 1920's in their design. Royal Stadium is built for the period it was built, the 70's. And guess what? Of course there's murmurs of wanting a new stadium. Why? Corporate boxes, etc., and just the human trait of wanting 'something new'. Maybe a new stadium with of course all the advances made in the environmentally correct efficiency areas, would be as good an argument for a new stadium as corporate needs. (private boxes). Now, if they start talking about demolishing the baseball stadiums in Cleveland and Baltimore, then we have greed and spoiled fan base in those cities. Tweak them yes, remodel them yes, retrofit them yes, but demolish and build new?,....Not!

Actually, the Patriots were the first NFL team since the merger to build a football-only stadium: Schaefer Stadium (1971). And they got no taxpayer funding.

And BIACTH instead of BIATCH

He manscaped the i.

When you realized you spelt spelled instead of spelt

Hyprel When you realize: he was probably American and that’s the correct way to spell it in American English

Hyprel Spelt is a grain and unless he’s British or Australian, the proper spelling is “spelled”

Didn’t the Mets, Jets, Giants and Yankees all play at Shea 1 year? Scheduling must have been fun…

Yup, I think it was 1975 when they were renovating Yankee Stadium. Actually wasn't bad; back then, live people meant more than TV. Yankees and Mets were never home at the same time; neither were the Jets and Giants. I do recall some gymnastics in September with Sunday games.@@99dndd

ReigningRavens I love the outdoor games .. I’ve never been to one, but my god they look good on TV.

Setting up a 60x30 yard ice rink in a 100x50 yard football field doesn't exactly qualify as duel use stadium. A lot of NHL teams share a stadium with NBA teams though.

@@caleb5944 Hockey and basketball have advantages football and baseball don't. An NBA court fits inside an NHL ice surface and is oriented the same way, and so the fans' distance from the action isn't that different between the sports. And since the surfaces are completely different (and much smaller), there's no temptation to try and cheap out and reuse one for the other.

Winter Classic doesn't count. It's a hockey game that's always played in an outdoor stadium.

Soldier Field is ugly. They should have renovated the old place.

Exactly...this is why Oakland is still in its current scenario, the fans wont pay, and the A's have not found anyone to foot the bill for a new one.And Why the raiders left.

Big Ragu That happened in Cincinnati and look at their sports teams 😂😂

Chargers and Rams.

BINGO! It all started when the Colts packed up and left town in the middle of the night...

This is what happened to the SuperSonics too.. Bs that Billionaires make people pay for it

Who's got the sauce for that one? Asking for a friend

hirr hirr i need it for "scientific purposes" ha ha ha

@@jefflarish3806 I'm on this will report back

@@jefflarish3806 its stock video www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1021985851?irgwc=1&Affiliate&Amarelo%20s.r.o.&

I asked my mom the same thing and she replied she was dumb at the time and stupid when she gave birth to me

It's still standing. It's been declared a National Historical Landmark.

They actually work better, mainly because there is MUCH less of a difference in size and shape - okay, maybe more of a difference in size. Also, switching over from hockey to basket ball is not as time consuming or labour intensive as MLB to NFL and visa-versa. Yes, there have been some arenas where humidity and other factors tended to produce 'soft' ice issues when the seasons overlapped. But from what I've heard over the years, FAR fewer problems with the arenas then with the stadiums.

@@davegreenlaw5654 Except when the arena was built for basketball exclusively. Then you have the disaster that was the Barclay Center when you try to shoehorn in hockey.

You're right. And to make matters worse, you know that company he mentions at 6:00 of the video that designed Camden Yards? That company's world headquarters are located in... _Kansas City._

But that practice failed

jakovcu so does that mean human beings are failures just because we are mortal and live a finite period of time?

Yes but not the Retro Classic parks that would take over in the 90's and 00's. Not anything against KC but most modern stadiums were modeled after Camden Yards.

​@@randomtraveler9854 I think part of Joseph Poole's larger point is that the genesis of *both* the 2-stadium in one sports complex concept, *and* the retro era style you mentioned, were *each* conceived in Kansas City. As mentioned at 6:00 this video, the Ballpark at Camden Yards was designed by _HOK Sport Venue Event_ (now Populous), whose world headquarters is located in... *Kansas City, Missouri.*

That’s canceled game was at Veterans stadium

In the time it took you to type that, 50 more home runs were given up by the Orioles pitching staff.

Correct. And the firm HOK Sport Event (now Populous) that designed Camden Yards of Baltimore is headquartered in... Kansas City. So, the genesis of the 2-stadium sports complex *and* the retro era style were *both* conceived in _Kansas City._

Because both fields are rectangular and roughly the same size. Not that bizarro basebowl layout!

Soccer and football are both rectangular.

Very similar rectangular field design between soccer and football.

maybe..I saw a Twins game there..U.S. Bank Stadium is more modern and has nicer suites..I miss seeing Big Ten and Minnesota Golden Gopher football games at the HHH Metrodome on TV..💺🏈🚜📺🤣

I mean, the game is the most important part, but to say that a well designed stadium has no influence I can't agree with. The difference between the atmosphere at a stadium specially designed for Football where the crowd is close to the field on every side makes the noise that much better. Multi use stadiums have the issue of sounding dull in comparison due to how far away most of the crowd is.

bfure1 Don’t misunderstand my post. I’m not saying I don’t prefer a nice venue. Heck, I just saw the Alabama v Duke game at Mercedes Benz stadium in Atlanta and was totally blown away by the place. My point is that it’s not a deal breaker for me like it is to some. More and more fans seem to need all these bells and whistles to enjoy the game experience and that’s fine, that’s their business, I’m just not one of them. When I’m at a big game rooting on my team the last thing on my mind is how nice the place is but as I said, that’s just me. If others feel different that’s their business

Joeylawn36111 Again. I get all that. I’m just saying for me it’s not a factor. All things being equal sure I’d prefer a beautiful, modern venue. I’m just saying it will have no effect on my attendance. I speak only for myself. If you feel different, that’s fine.

That’s partially incorrect, in 1989 in the final preseason game the Pats lost Garin Veris, Andre Tippett and Ronnie Lippett to season ending injuries that all involved the turf being basically concrete. The Sullivans had gone into financial ruins because they put the stadium up for collateral as part in investing in the riddled with problems and unsuccessful money wise , Jackson’s “Victory Tour”. Causing what was a glorified high school field to become an absolute dump. Enter Kiam and his quick exit(thankfully), followed by place holder James Orthwien Busch (who wasn’t going to sink a dime into the place. It wasn’t till Bob Kraft who owned the racetrack (which is the current location of Gillette) bought the place for almost nothing that any repairs started to happen.

With soccer gaining in popularity in America I feel like and makes the most sense to have those two sports in duel use. The Atlanta falcons and Atlanta United playing a purpose-built soccer / football dual stadium and it works great with next to no downsides.

Jacob Prue Benson having been to both types of games there, that place is tremendously underrated.

Jacob Prue Benson Arthur Blank was successful

Soccer and Football isn't quite the same as Football and Baseball

No they play in a soccer specific field that is temporarily hosting football. That's like calling Yankee Stadium multi purpose cuz it hosts MLS games. It was made specifically for baseball.

Jeremy Howard In San Diego, Chargers and Padres played in SD Jack Murphy Stadium.

Not only that, but you also got the occasional peep show in the outfield. 🤣🤣🤣

Chris Stewart my town Katy Texas spent 77 million on a hs football stadium..... HIGH SCHOOL!

...what is minor league soccer? sorry, soccer is kinda unpopular in the US

@@AxlBrickman exactly. US major league is basically minor league soccer. US minor league is basically highschool

@@manifesteddestiny. to be fair, Louisville is rumored to be moved up to the MLS within a couple of years, still stupid tho

I was there too. Do you remember the contest they had to choose who got to push the plunger and blow it up?😂 I wanted to win that so bad when I was a kid lol. I also remember it being absolutely freezing outside.

Plan B FT... W?

Three Rivers actually wasn't bad compared to other cookie-cutter stadiums of that era. The transformation from football to baseball (and vice versa) was among the easiest (especially compared to the Oakland Coliseum). For a cookie-cutter stadium, the sightlines at old Three Rivers was also decent. And Three Rivers was one of the loudest venues - especially when the Steelers were playing. BUT The Burgh now has some crown jewel venues - especially PNC Park.

Now the pirates thanks to horrible ownerships with McClatchy and nutting the pirates won’t do a thing in the best ballpark in America. Some our saying now they shouldn’t have gotten the stadium built for the pirates,

Scott Brady thank you scott, I appreciate it :)

The Astrodome has been declared a historical landmark. It will never be torn down. However, the round ramps to get into the Dome were imploded by order of Harris County. (Go figure) and Harris County auctioned off all of the Astrodome seats to the highest bidders. Now, if Harris County was smart, they could turn the Dome into a brand new Houston Texans practice facility similar to what The Dallas Cowboys have in Frisco. The Pokes use the facility during the week but during football season let The Frisco HS teams use it as their home field on Friday/Saturday. If Houston would do this, The tax payer would get his money back on this deal easy.

Football players hated it. It's hard to run on a muddy infield. Baseball players didn't like playing on a grass field torn up by football.

I liked hearing the baseball announcer say, "[The outfielder] catches it on the 20-yard line!"

I understand. I did the same when Raiders and Rams left in the same year. Sorry we stole the Chargers back. They belong to San Diego.

Californians vote for every other tax except stadium taxes as is the case in Oakland and SD.

bow arrow that doesn’t make it good

OCo has a million issues unrelated to the dual-usage as well and I imagine the A's will move one of these days

@@CODMarioWarfare The A's actually want to buy the Coliseum and the land, and build a new baseball stadium; but Oakland doesn't like the idea, so they're going to lose the A's, too.

Are they going back to L.A.?

@@MrPAULONEAL no they are moving to nevada as the Las Vegas raiders

Might be tougher in Seattle. 1st MLB team snuck out of town overnite. 2d MLB team over 40 years on made the playoffs 4 times only team not to ever get to world series. NBA team did win a championship should have had more then was stolen.1st nhl team stolen before it ever even got going..nfl team got to 3 super bowls got screwed by officials in 1st one then gave 3d one away with bonehead play. Was talented enough to win 3 in a row but not smart enough. 2d potential nba team sabotaged by Seattle hating nba commissioner. New NHL team being sabotaged by coronovirus. Seattle Dragons killed by covid19. Seattle Metroplitans lost chance for 3d Stanley Cup title due to Spanish flu.

FC Cincinnati?