Why Does THIS Happen To David But Not V? (Cyberpunk Edgerunners) 

There's also that!

I really like this explanation as well lol

I agree

I agree with this one more, v basically got 2 brains to share the load of the cyberware too

V is also basicly dead , Johnny takes over the body after the heist but V "soul" is still in there......V also doesn't go nearly full brog like David did and V might build up a resistance like smasher did over time

Done this and that Some NPC's were immune to the car and other died As for max Tried some console commands added all the legendary stuff The sandev build got through around 6 waves of max before dying I even had the second heart too

The fuckin MaiMain has become my signature car. Just because I find it funny that a mass murderer drives around in a cute little clown car

Not much 💀

@@_JamesMorrell_ how do i get console commands

I want lore accurate MaxTac so bad...

Check the new update lol

​@@Colincantkill???

@@feloniousassault1281 they added cyberphycosis

​@@Colincantkillno they didn't, the fuck. They added limiter and debuff due to prolong cyberware usage, not cyberphycosis.

@@Readcapa oh i thought they named the limitor and debuff cyberphycosis since that’s technically what cyberphycosis does

“Just take a bullet”

Corpo start best start imo

😂 it was a cognitive booster not a mood stabilizer

But if you do the edgrunner perk as of 2.0 i feel as if V goes crazy for a bit because you can start hearing laughter because of the fury skill

@@BigU431 corpo path + dont fear the reaper = canon ALSO ROMANCE JUDY AS A MALE THROUGH MODS. TRY AND STOP ME LGBT .i.

Having flashbacks of playing Star Ocean til the end of time. A game within a game.

Pretty sure Keanu Reeves is

How?

true😊

That's deep

I really like that explanation

Cant agree more

Most realistic game mechanic happens inside the the player's head - they literally succumbed to the key symptom of cyberpsychosis, the inability to see the civilians and police as human.

This is exactly the way I saw it.

Makes sense actually…the player controlling him IS the cyberpsychosis

Exactly!

"I am the Cyberpunk"

@@milkywayhuizar5641 "time to punk in this cyber world" -V

No he's not, It's us

I cried when Keanu said "It's Cyberpunk time" and then we cyberpunked all over 2077

No, we are V’s cyberpsichosis. Who else makes V drive a truck through a crowd of civilians

David however was "Built Different" in his own eyes so he went full chrome due to A. Probably an addiction for it + B. Trying to make everyones dreams reality by bearing all the pressure... No wonder david went cyberpsycho really.

Yeah this makes sense I think. Taking more implants slowly once you've gotten used to the ones you already have instead of just getting a new one every other week sounds better

Also, doesn't time affect that? V goes through a huge transformations of Chrome in mere weeks at most. Davie and Maine had been chromed for very long, which I assume takes its toll. It took Maine a long time to snap, which I assume would happen to V after multiple years

@@michaelcavalry8379 yeah that's always the reason I thought, like lore wise the part of V's story we play takes place over the course of weeks, while David had his for longer

@@michaelcavalry8379 V's story is a few weeks, David's story is about a year or 6 months. Also V has that chip in him/her. A big hole where the brain used to be, then it got re-written too. It's possible they died by the end of it all so cyberpsychosis is the least of their worries.

That’s Johnny talken

Also cyberpsychosis happens mostly In men less likely in women

Also V: no parents in sight, we watch 2 xbd's during the playthrough, never take the pills Vic told us to.

V doesn't have a Humanity stat

@@deathangel1411 Because men don't know when to stop with the metal.

V acts like it’s Johnny trying to manifest in a particularly strong way. Like an emotional outburst that is causing V physical harm. Notice how it only really happens when Johnny needs to have a really emotional heart to heart with V?

The seizures are relic malfunctions. It was not only damaged but never meant to be used the way it was on V. It was supposed to be for Saburo to transfer his consciousness to a body on life support.

I like this theory. It lines up when Dee keeps losing it at the thought of losing his love life, also when the big guy (forgot his name) loses his girl before maxtac arrives which makes him go completely ballistic.

@@calleocho2107 It's not really a theroy since this comes from Mike Mondsmith the creator of Cyberpunk

@@smashrosa8111 except that it’s not in the story so it’s completely irrelevant. The writers of the show are not the same thing as the creator of the table top game that’s basically just a shittier version of shadow run. original creators who have had nothing to do with the IP in recent years don’t get to just be like “this is a good idea, it’s cannon now” if it’s not apart of the story as envisioned by the writers then it’s not relevant to that story.

@@dirpyturtle69 Sure lmao. You don't seem to know that everything he says is based on canon facts from the Cyberpunk lore (The original RPG, RED and 2077). The anime isn't in it's own bubble just so you know. Plus he is still involved in the IP with CDPR. Btw it's not the writters of the show that have say in what's canon or not.

Kinda what warframe between the warframe character and the Tenno. Both share the body in bound to one. Warframe is half human and machine that is 99% through skin to bones more advanced then cyberpunk world

Touché

It is like, functional Cyberpsychosis though, two minds can keep the other in check. Plus I am unsure how much V gets, but David sacrificed over 60 percent of his original body to Chrom.

I'd like to think that we're the cyberpsychosis controlling V

This is the same theory I have on V situation. Having severe brain damage and a construct in there not to mention only a few weeks to live doesn't leave alot of time for it to take hold if it could.

Yep, the creator literally said this on twitter recently. He was dealing with cyberpsychosis the whole game and we didn’t realize at first

Not likely.

@@mr.starly2423 Actually that is confirmed by author’s/devs

​@@mr.starly2423Oooo schooled^

Cuz he's technically is V's psychosis since it also strongly hinted at that Johnny was a cyberpsycho

@@nxthvn914or just a regular one with chrome

I repeat it too often now lol

“It’s high time I chromed the fuck up.”

David that mf 😂

“Its chromin’ time”

@@nileredsexperiment834 David said, as he proceeded to chrome all over the place

He almost had as much chrome as Adam Smasher. The only difference was Adam just had a skull of a man and David had head and torso.

@@IndraD And even the torso is seen being modded by the ripperdoc

@@IndraD I don't think he even had a normal skull since we see metal plates on David head (specifically the part where he was missing an eye) after smasher ripped his limbs off

@@XD-sc4ix the only organic thing he has is a brain and his brain is in a biopod in his head

His bulk was cyberware I thought not to mention it’s not how much it’s also what kind and the quality the two greatest risk factors are back alley black market record so to their poor craft and minimal safety ect and Military grade gear like the San dan David used and the cyber skeleton we find this out in a convo V has with a member a max tac after a specific cyber psycho attack and V mentions the Mantis blades the max tax member has is a military grade that is illegal so to their high risk factor

I like to think the entire game is V having cyber psychosis episode

I really like this explanation

Or like the basilisk for those who haven't watched Pacific Rim.

@@slyzthaman True

Facts

and V never got that much implants.

or turn left/right, brakes were likely budget cheap (she probly took a bullet too tho...)

in a real life situation you wouldnt know either... trust me bro just trust me

And all Maine had to do was lighten his load a little, but alas no one does things the easy way

@@nagato5129 He had an physical inferiority complex, constantly reliving his past life in a puny body before cyberware, which was passed on to David. *This city chews people up & spits them out...*

To be fair cyberpunk cars handle really bad

David's cyberpsychosis: fear of not meeting people's expectations, because he's *special* V's cyberpsychosis: the player

@@laziness6641 essentially yes. The gigs dry up, you’ve taken out all other pyschos, you bought everything there is to buy, and your now bored.

This is actually what I fear. Been seeing less NPD reports poppin' and I wonder if they just need someone to pop them to get reports back up--feeling like I can take a Trauma team down.

I'm down to go full cyberpsycho, chrome me the fuck up!

No

theres going to be a cyberware cap kind of thing in new update so I'll like to see how they tackle that

@@gamingcactus4634I am likely going to wish death upon who thought that was a good idea. It’s a power fantasy thing yes? Why get in the way of that?

​@@mugenokami2201don't worry, mods will take care of this 😁

@@kevinburns8473 I’m on console sadly

​@@mugenokami2201the cap is raisable by leveling up completing gigs and finding chips as well as via perks

That accurately describes Adam Smasher to a T, Gonk was committing War Crimes before getting Borged Up.

@@chrispilcher2024 it’s true getting chromed out just made him faster and angrier

maybe... you just did, when you turned that nightclub into a butcher shop..

​@@STG1183 yeah I'm assuming that's the joke

@@STG1183 Good day Sherlock Holmes. At your top game as always huh?

V is understanding how to control it maybe? V goes bat shit crazy and then calms down after without it taking over. idk. honestly cp2077 is a cluster of wtf so.

A lot of people have brought upthe player being his cyberpsychosis: we drive him to keep getting chromed up, we drive him to mow down tons of people if we do, so it makes sense tome

Ironic, a ghost of a dead man keeping you sane.

@@dgurevich1 having a pissed off keanu reeves living inside him rent free

Having Keanu Reeves talk to you in your head is kinda baller

@@evr0b If I had to have anyone riding shotgun in my grey matter, I'd want it to be him.

@@paula8515 or Ryan Reynolds.

Exactly!💯💯💯

And took the L

@@deadrat69 i'd say he took a W, the girl he loved is safe. He still payed the price tho.

@@Charlie.G506 At least the guy was able to clap those cheeks before going down

@@Charlie.G506 safe from arasaka? we don't even know what happened afterwards but knowing arasaka and especially Adam smasher who hates keeping loose ends since there is no mention of her anywhere in the game its hard to guess if she is even alive in 2077

Also a reasonable explanation

Fan theory

Hmm, so Johny comes and halts any cyberpsychosys to undergo in his mind to a degree, it might be something about 2 minds sharing his brain, so it stalls for a while said process. Might be it but not clear in any way.

@@joshuameadows4922 very much

@@joshuameadows4922 can't deny it makes a lot of sense

@@joshuameadows4922 cannon. That's literally what the fuck is going on in the game. From the moment thee comes back to life he's experiencing cyberpsychosis.

the “it” factor going for em

I don't think that Adam Smasher is even human anymore, just a contained cyberpsycho

Well Adam Smasher has a much more tame version of cyberpsychpsis, a disgust for organic bodies.. so V is better than him.

The reason Adam Smasher is able to Borg out isn't because he's cool and shit. It's because the guy was a psychopath before getting blown to bits by an RPG.

Yeah, Adam Smasher is a psycho, just a different kind.

Mods let me do this lol

@@yohane...shoukan2416 I unfortunately am bound to a console

This exactly. David's story is about someone who isn't living for themselves in the slightest, but instead taking on the dreams of those around him and living for them. He never had a dream, just had hopes pinned on him and that made him lose sight of what he really wanted and who he really was and was becoming.

Agreed

David is special to a point cause he was able to use it immediately 10 times with no meds and 2 should have been his limit but he's not as special as V I think he could have killed smasher too the fight wasn't really fair smasher has no emotion and he just watched his ride or die well die then smasher with previous knowledge of the weakness of the full body cybernetics he was just forced into instantly destroys the obvious weak point

@@Voltaic01 David had no chance against smasher. Smasher had already seen everything David's chrome can dole out. He knows the weaknesses and Adams chrome is most likely chrome specifically built for him specifically designed to be a one man army and designed to completely smash other clanks. David's chrome was older than what Adam has which I would say is quite a few years ahead of everyone else. Perhaps Adam struck a deal with Arasaka to give him their best shit they can make and he gets the preemo shit that don't hit the Markey fot a long time. V soloed the tower of Arasaka and Adam Smasher alone in one night. V was something else. A one in a billion to have played Night City's game and came out on top inspite of their declining condition.

@@TallicaMan1986 I think David had a chance smasher knew how to entirely disable him because he knew about the absolutely massive flaws of the skeletons reliance on the grav tech but everything else it just smasher isn't organic and has the best tech because arisoka owns him so he has a massive edge but if David wasn't forced into the skeleton and also had to fight a bunch with no time to adjust to a Skelton with massive weak point Anti grav gens he coulda won plus smasher had the drop on them haha get it sadge

@@TallicaMan1986 obv V is super special and David is just somewhere in the top 0.5 - 1% probably but I think he had a like a 10% chance in a 1v1 if he was rested pre skeleton where others would have 0

That depends on every player’s decision because V can be just as you mentioned or the complete opposite because V is a reflex of your own personality, obviously if you take the decisions according with your honest opinion of the situation

I'm pretty sure this is actually precisely the kind of behaviour that can worsen the onset of Cyberpsychosis. Succumbing to it isn't a case of running out of willpower or anything like that, you become a Cyberpsycho when you stop seeing other people as being real, when you lose empathy for them. While keeping your appearance mostly the same would help, being entirely focused on work and not connecting with other people, not exercising your ability to empathise is how you lose it. It's how Adam Smasher behaves, and Mike Pondsmith recently confirmed that Smasher is a Cyberpsycho, just that he's more high-functioning than most. Presumably, this is because his day job is turning fleshy humans into paste for Arasaka, so he can get away with what would usually be considered behaviour that gets you put down by Maxtac

True and David also had way more mods than V I think that’s worth mentioning.

Eng game v is the same. The only thing organic by the end of the game is the brain and even then. An argument could be made that that's not even organic all that much due it's process of being rewritten through out the game.

@@TallicaMan1986 well technically you don't have to get V chipped at all if you don't want to, so there goes that argument, and even if you do u can't get all the types of implants in the game at once you simply don't have enough slots for that, for example, you can't have mantis blades and projectile hands at the same time so my theory is that what V can get is pretty much the standard normal limit to what a ripperdoc is willing to put in u + all the cyberware V gets are already on the market tested and safe if u take your meds and stuff. David clearly went overboard, experimental sandy, Maine's projectile hand wich was probably a faulty device and so on.

@@Nought.27 what the player does is irrelevant. We take the absolute potential of V when we're talking about V. Not what a pacifist player does or doesn't do. We know V can be 95% chromed out. We know V can kill Adam Smasher, We know V soloed Night City etc. Other wise your argument can basically be boiled down to "this player didn't even beat the game, V is weak." Mantis blades and projectile hands aren't necessary and definatly not indicative of someone's skill. They're cool, but a Shotgun will do.

@@TallicaMan1986 "what the player does is irrelevant" true u can kill anyone in NC or almost nobody, so if you take into account both extremes, the game needs to be the one to acknowledge if V is psycho or not and well it does not. even if you start killing civilians and you survive max tac you can move on like nothing happened. My argument was that a maxed-out V is still in a functioning state, 95% of the normal limit for a human, David clearly went over the edge because otherwise, it would mean that the last 5% would be the difference between V and Smasher full borg 100% and on a full borg you can practically put all the implant types in the game and more because you don`t have a human body for them to fit in anyway.

@@Nought.27 Doesn't Maine's launcher arm jam on him on occasion? Think it really is just a faulty thing.

More like the engram chip is suppressing the CP because of the rewriting

David gave himself to many cybernetics, too quickly. While v got all of his op cyberware over time doing jobs.

No one can have 100% borged not even adam , they still have flesh brain.

@@mailsibul no shit just like you can’t be 150% it’s obviously a over exaggeration

V is a guy obviously and because everyone always says he or he's in their sentence you just said it, you should've said because they're blah blah blah. V was always meant to be a he but you can make him into your own gender to fit your gameplay and be immersed.

@@LueLucifer Okay what are you on. No one said anything about that but if you're really going to bring it up then female V was always the character being used for showcases and beta related shit. Like I'm not saying one is more canonical then the other, but if you're really bringing that shit up, CDPR used both of them for marketing and have even swapped over to female V again for the new shit.

@@Zwei22 Never watched the Beta stuff or really cared much for this game since they didn't start development until 5 years after it's announcement. I do know they changed the story a lot though so the Beta changes a lot.

@@LueLucifer bro is forgetting the DLC only shows female V

@@LueLucifer then why tf you care so much 😂. Just out here stating actual untrue things and making yourself seem mad fragile and toxic

The fact he can still endure cyberpsychosis at such a young young while packing all of those trauma just shows how much of a beast he is (not as much as V's but still a beast) imagine if this monster actually becomes a fully grown adult

@@mr.jokermaker4539 funny how goku so-

@@yesyouareright9800 why goku

@@walterwhite4398 why not

That still doesn't matter

How does that work?

He kills out of necessity not malice, He probably feels bad but never says so, because you need to be though to survice on NC

​@@MonerLaine Personally, I kill every ganger I see with extreme malice. My favorite ones to kill are the Tyger Claws and Maelstom.

The anime takes place in 2076, while V’s storyline happens a year later

@@erwinmixing2988 which is why V would only have a cameo, not be a major player. Because he's not that famous yet

@@laziness6641 Two versions of V aren't even in night city in 2076, only Corpo V is in night city, a cameo for V would be so hamfisted lol.

@@TheRealMorningstar the amount of ppl that V HAD to kill and see die is more than 2x this.

V might be his dad

@@papafoundry5537 V can't be David's dad. V is only 10 years older than David. David is 17 and V is 27. That means V would have had him at age 10...🤢

@@etherealdreamerart I know it's obvious V is not the parent of David, but to add on, V also has the possibility of just not having a penis altogether, and you know after edgeeunners there's a mission and they very much don't know who David is so...

@@etherealdreamerart well its night city so who knows.🤣

@@doctorkrieger4404 I doubt it. V doesn't seem like the type to be a deadbeat dad. Plus how old was Gloria when she had David?

Funny to think about that

Also, david was augmented for years. V has very few augments at the start of the game and the game takes place over a fairly short period of time.

@@nenadmilovanovic5271 that would be actually another additive, too many implants in a short period of time can and will cause psychosis

@@nenadmilovanovic5271 very true, there was no “time skip” for V. Everything happened in the span of 2 weeks (give or take) maximum

Can i have the link to the tweet?

I feel like Johny was actually V's cyberpsychosis

brains more formed also due to age so it can handle different wear and tear david being younger cant

Plus V is actually knowledgeable about Cyberware and doesnt use old implants with back alley software. Unlike David who's using a Sandevistan from a cyberpsycho, and Maines arm launcher which he also went c-psycho. Plus David young and chipped his whole body way to fast V states multiple times to people that chipping old implants increases your chance of cyberpsychosis. Plus, let's face it, V has Viktor who is one of the best rippers in NC. If David was seeing Viktor instead of his guy I'm sure he would've had a different outcome.

Exactly. She got her immunity to cyber-psychosis at the cost of literally suffering brain hemorrhages every other day and her mind/soul being erased alive. Her life-span got cut down to about few weeks/a month. That is more that “fair price” for such limited gift.

V doesn’t die tho

That’s because he never got laid.

@@mat7083 but I banged Judy

@@gundyr7462 No, that was Johnny Wikileaks my friend. The banging in first person was an illusion. You’re still a virgin. Stay pure.

@@mat7083 gdi

Fr tho, where they both had semi control or personality merge

​@@-_EmperorCGod I wish

He doesnt

he does it's us the players (It's canon It's in the LORE) @@vectro51

Omfg yall have me dead 😭💀