Why Endgame Content Is CRITICAL To Genshin Impact's Longevity 

Oh yeah, i think they should increase that! but by now we all prob wouldve finished it right when it came out.

I like handbook too, though feeling compelled to raise artifacts, especially in the early game when your artifact collection is probably not very ideal, doesn't feel amazing.

@@Sanguimaru its not really that big of a deal since u can always recycle them as xp

It’s literally SO EASY to just add a ton more levels that have very difficult but achievable goals with increasingly better rewards why can’t they just do that instead of shit like fishing and the teapot which only a very small margin of the player base actually find fun

It would’ve been cool if they’d released new chapters for Inazuma and new chapters for every region after. They missed a good opportunity there

it has no endgame because * drums roll * is not finished. There is literally no game that lets you access the elite/secret boss, final dungeon, elite dungeons for raids etc. before the actual end. Did we defeat the final boss? No. Is the story finished? No. Are all regions released? No. You want hard challenges? Play another game that is fully finished or be creative and try to face a boss fight with a level 2 Amber. The issue of Genshin is not the lack of "endgame" but the lack of game itself that doesn't allow the player to go through the stories that matter the most while dishing out irrelevant events and puzzle solving.

@@RejectedInch They’re almost on the fourth region. That is not new by far. Also, why is endgame suddenly tied to the progress of the full story? Are you going to tell me with a straight face that an AR60 player isn’t in endgame at all? It would be relatively easy to add permanent things besides the Spiral Abyss. Heck, there are many options that have been shown in events that would be great for permanent content!

@@RejectedInch NO EXCUSE. Other live service games make raids or content for casual and hardcore players as they go that stays they don’t all just wait ten years for the end lol imagine MMOs doing that

@@RejectedInch The answer is more simple; there is no endgame because Genshin is a very casual friendly game. The game is designed to be played in short sessions during the free times in your schedule, you aren't supposed to play for hours every day. The mayority of players don't care about meta, artifacts or even the Abyss. This might be a hard pill to swallow for some people but if you are feeling frustrated with the state of the game, you are the minority and you aren't the main target audience.

Facts. The bad part is if you post this on Reddit you get flamed by people who supposedly only have 30 seconds a day to play video games. Then there is the “Genshin isn’t for you. It’s for casuals” crowd which is just such a stupid argument. Who says casuals can’t enjoy endgame content besides the fact that meta / hardcore always drives a player base via carrot on a stick. The resin system needs to be revamped by removing it from some bosses and allowing you to farm resin. The domains can be fixed by allowing you to keep going with leaderboards and increased rewards (still locked behind resin as you will eventually lose), unlimited scaling spiral abyss, league play where each month resets.

Bruh this , I think what they need to do is going back to the drawing board and rethink stuff. A.) Let players choose their world difficulty, lvl 100 enemies should be the norm after AR 58. Like wtf. B.) Add a gear scoring system and an appraisal system for the love of god , make domains super hard and the timer to 40 seconds. An AR 59 player has the same progression curve as an AR 55 player like wtf are you on about. It should be easier to snipe artifacts later. C.) Add a arena mode , tower mode and a boss rush mode. Thats rpg 101. LOLZZZ D.) add themed domains and assets and recycle the mobs. Add a cash shop so we can purchase artifact strongbox's lol.

@@abhiss6705 lv 100 should be the norm at lv 57 imo. I was already bored of WL8 once I hit AR 56. And Im a low spender, mostly welkin and BP only.

"Basically at the end game, players just do not feel rewarded with the work they put into the game." Took the words right out of my mouth. I haven't played that many gachas, but it was clear as soon as I hit Ar 55 (AR 59 now) that Genshin has an underwhelming and unrewarding end game. Unlike other games (in general, not just gachas) Genshin has never incentivized players for spending countless of hours into the game. At AR 55+ nothing is new, the drop rates for mob materials aren't increased, you unlock no new domains that give better rewards, etc. Basically, there's no merit to progressing, and any progress you make after AR 55 is meaningless because the rewards are just a single standard pull. The only thing that's left for you to aim for is Spiral Abyss, which isn't fun as many players have mentioned. Spiral Abyss has the potential to be fun, but at the end of the day, the abyss is either just a DPS check, gear check, or in the worst case both. The only thing that keeps this game fresh for me is the exploration whenever there's a new area, as the new quests and area are the only content that I enjoy sinking multiple hours into.

@@abhiss6705 Domains should NOT be super hard 😭 We already don't want Abyss not more of it. They should instead be more rewarding like guaranteed pieces or substats. And what does the last part even serve exactly? Nobody really uses the Artifact Strongbox before higher AR's. What they should do instead is add more of it. Nobody runs the VV domain for Maiden pieces anymore, it's not even best-in-slot for anyone. They should just replace the Maiden pieces with another set or rework it somehow.

@@salceds At AR 58/59 most people have cracked accounts who can stomp abyss. SO harder domains makes it more interesting and makes the reward loop better. Beat this lvl 100 domain in 40 seconds and you get a min CV of 14.1 , stuff like that Second point , by adding stongboxes for all the sets as part of a cash shop whose points can be earned passivly by non resin activities(weekly domains). You make artifacts more readily available. Taking your example, would you rather have 6 VV pieces guaranteed , or do 6 runs of the VV domain and get maidens in all of them.

And the mere fact that it's designed as a "Mainstream game" A lot of PC player expected a fair consumption... And play whenever they want... Not forced to abide the game resources rules

/OUH this!!!!! and it comes to arguments alot, even naming people meta slaves or simps---- like, if you dont like spiral abyss, simp. you like yae's gameplay even its clunky? simp. you hate kokomi's gameplay? meta slave. while,,,, the game is just trying to appeal to everyone at once, hence the creation of multiple characters with many niches. Even the comments section around here is a bit like that: -I bet you cant clear SA because you're a bad player who's just playing for the waifu, go play Dead or Alive extreme 3 orrrr - Meta slaves are grinding too fast even tho its not the game for them, go play League. while im here--- i had both coming at me... why cant i point out the issue in both- genshin is a game that does, to quote that one dude on the internet "a lil bit of everything, all of the time"

thats not end game. The need to stop wasting time with frivolous things like teapot and hangouts and focus on giving us an endgame worth grinding for. Coz rn there's nothing.

@@RadialSeeker113 It's still a nice idea I'd like that

@@TheElino you can like that, but it’s literally not the issue that we’re addressing which is problem I noticed with the genshin community, a lot of players are fine watching a 20 second cinematic and sitting through 4 minutes of text boxes. That’s not endgame and it’s very repetitive after a while, why am I building this strong team if all I’ll do is read the dialog

@@Indy2109 I'm not saying it's endgame content I just said it's a nice idea

that would be nice. more interactions in general with the characters would be nice. like maybe if you get them to lvl 10, you can sometimes find them in random places in the world with missions for you kind of like with npcs rn. ik i'd be more inclined to help fetch something for ayato than save pallad from another group of slimes.

Cool cool, will they get Husk Nihilus though, or a small room with waves of Void Gorgons?

@@Hellothere-ss4jq giving me flashbacks

The Vagabond Event is pretty much what Punishing Gray Raven's Babel Tower looks like, which is pretty much the end game and considered the hardest content of that game. You get to modify the enemies' difficulty by adjusting their attack power, speed, debuffs etc.. The difference is this Babel Tower comes either every patch or every other patch which doesn't take long to return.

I doubt it. They marketed Genshin as a casual game and are pretty adamant about keeping it that way.

i was looking for this comment. idk why genshins endgame is so bad when honkais is so good

Tbh, I think if they were a little more upfront about what characters are coming out in the future and what their general abilities/skills will be (even if not the specific numbers/details since those can always change), then players would have more goals to do. Most of what I do on any given day is pre-farm for future desired characters.

I’m AR60 more like.I’m more afraid when other games have no roadmap to look forward too. When Genshin did show chapters of Teyvat. It’s where I know I can wait when the time comes than none.

You nailed dude, this is why I dont pre-farm the materials for a character that I like. Because if I farmed in advance, I will lose reason to play the game in the first place.

And as an AR 35 player who savors all their quests this is exactly the reason why I play Genshin more casually and less religiously than some of my friends do. I have better things to do in my life and I also want the game to last longer for me, the newer content just makes it more fun to go on side detours.

honestly i am also just farming for kazuha and saved primogems for months . after i get him i have no desire to play . i dont want to collect all 5 star bec i have no interest in doing chore everyday .

If you think rolling for cancer movesets or badly designed bosses to topscore is a really good thing or even fun, I can only say there's something wrong with your line of thinking. And its also a way to mihoyo introduce and justify powercreep because just like in honkai, they can control the meta in many ways by doing that. You can see on honkai how they release weapons and characters LITERALLY DESIGNED to trivialize mechanics of MA and abyss in their kit, giving them a sense of necessity for players who care, and the ones who don't have to go thru shitty RNG and badly designed traffic light bosses. Please do not suggest such things. If this would happen with genshin I'm pretty sure the community would riot because it'd be very easy to connect how they could do cash grabs by artificially making characters necessary, just like what they do on honkai.

@@matheus-sm7860 you exactly described why didn’t stick with Honkai. The boss mechanics looked fun, but you literally need certain characters to have a fun time. It felt stupid on so many levels, that’s why I just did the story up to date and discontinued, despite pulling Mobius, HOT and her weapon, and Fischl and her weapon. I just pulled without a care in the world.

@@matheus-sm7860 Oh no theres a new meta valk that released, its not like theres multiple alternative I can use and still be as effective and even then its not like I need to be at the very top to get good rewards. I dunno your experience with Honkai, but I think its not much. I'm a level 88 captain at the endgame, and let me tell you, its nothing like you say, if I don't pull the latest valk my ranking does not drop, I do not have more significantly more difficult fights. I'm not even the most skilled or the most well equiped out there. To do well requires a understanding of the game's mechanics, something the latest fully geared valkyrie doesn't get you.

Iirc, there was a dev interview a long time ago and they said they don't have any plans for PvP content. I think this is the reason why we don't have leaderboards like honkai on Spiral Abyss.

@@randomguyblank1616 Sorry for the Seething, but i think you have absolutely 0 clue of what youre talking about. Ive been playing this game for 1230 days at this point, and if you deny that , Benares, Assaka, Higo, GK, and even Jizo (if you use NS for example, optimally you need to roll that 3 hit combo on the beginning and evade the last atk with her to get the bonus crit rate that she gets from evasion, if you dont do that, YOU WILL SCORE LOWER, SO its RNG IN A WAY) that weird boss with paralyze field that's RNG as fuck are shitty bosses when you DO NOT USE what hoyo wants you to use to top score, you'll spend at least 30 mins to an hour rolling for either moveset or chaining an action (evade) that increases your damage or trigger time fracture on memorial, and completely out of your control, and reliant on RNG. I've been literally scoring 30.5 or 31K or more literally every week on my 1st tries just because i have the herrschers and the latest characters. And before that ive had only the free characters to use until i got memento and HR. Have you even tried ROLLING HoS Schrodinger on Jizo? How dare you to not call it a RNG fest when schro t by itself is RNG? Have you tried using PX+Roza+Flamescion without full gear on BKE? Lemme tell you, YOU CANT SKIP THE TRAFFIC LIGHT PHASE if you dont have full gear, so you have to do the 2 blocks and ult in the beginning, and HOPE in the 2ND rotation for her to use the explosion move for you to timelock with PX, otherwise, YOU WILL WASTE TIME, and your score will be either 30,983 or 30,8, just BECAUSE THERES A HUGE LAYER OF RNG if you literally dont own her gear. Last time i spent 1:30 mins rolling for this, and a player on Global server tried the same thing and it took an literal hour to replicate it. I have the video if you doubt, but its not that i care anymore. Have you tried using memento vs higo or vs GK? Have you even tried to use tripple newtons and fail miserably every single time just because your weapon active didnt hit because of one factor out of your control, and losing 3 to 5s in the process? Have you tried using WD + HoR + Roza on Higo even once (you need to roll for it to stay in the wall and chain time fractures in the wall and hope the aggro doesnt go wrong otherwise he'll zoom to the middle of the map. Is this even skill? Are oyu serious? Have you tried breaking Assaka's Arm with DP+LE+HotF using kikaku, just to see how many tries it takes just because YOU NEED IT to keep one of its arms down (and you probably know he doesnt stop moving? (lemme tell you, even the promalders take at least 3hrs to make this work). "if I don't pull the latest valk my ranking does not drop" Heh, i dont mean to be elitist here, but last time i checked my RL emblem it was 580 days, or 83 retentions or so. Even if drop this, it'll still last a long time. Could you tell me how much time you've been playing and if you even retains or promote from redlotus time to time? " I do not have more significantly more difficult fights.~ Honkai IS NOT A MECHANICALLY HARD (or even hard) game to learn, and theres no difficulty on killing literal punchbags, the difficulty there, the difficult part on that game is replicate the same scenarios that you see on youtube or bilibili where they rolled optimal moveset or rotation that have one or two elements out of your control. But ill give you that the new bosses are telegraphed and as long you know the 2 or 3 starting moves, the score will always be similar, so its a SMALL layer of RNG. An example of that are the two quantum bosses that have 3 starting moves, and one of them (the long one is the optimal one to chain multiple time fractures, BUT OF COURSE, if you use the quantum characters designed to kill them, you`ll not have to care about this because the mechanic is shortened with the press of one button. Have you even tried killing Rimestar without DA or SoS? Are you even aware how many tries are needed to do this with suboptimal characters? Can you even try killing rimestar with HoS without SoS without spending a LOT of time to get an actual good score (30 or 31K)? ~ To do well requires a understanding of the game's mechanics, something the latest fully geared valkyrie doesn't get you.~ Heh, It has nothing to do with skill, its about making a fair design or something that would actually make the players feel rewarded upon doing some actions in the game, for the most part the boss design of honkai is just bad because there's a lot of things that you can stop and say "why is this there" "why do i have to do this to short out a mechanic" "why do i have to use x character otherwise i wont do damage because this character have a huge buildup (trauma or sp, nowadays, though it happens, even moveset) to actually do damage (i just gave you an example with SoS) its just unfun and not even rewarding. Its just bad. Did i just said i`ve been scoring 30-31K on EX Memorial almost every week on my 1st tries almost every week? Last week i got 103K on memorial in the last day and didnt even rolled for moveset. (and enabled the buff mode because i dont care anymore). (scores were 30.5, 31.1 and 42K.)

True...

you havent done commissions in over a year? thats gotta be like 20k primos youve missed out on. if you dont care, you dont care, but i wish i could have them instead loool!

@@Nunazac mental sanity is more important than a few pulls

Yup, because they can..because their figures shows that they can afford to

@@Nunazac I did a few for Inazuma and I'll do enough to unlock new story chapters, but that's about it. It helps that I only pull on units I want and I've had pretty good gacha luck. And while true that I will never get those primos back, the world's longest "honeymoon period" has to end eventually, and then it should make getting characters, cons, and weapons exponentially easier. Sales gotta die down first tho. Not worth the effort with the current system.

We have different friends lol, mine all log in power day, I'm the one who just logs in certain days for my Welkin

@@ROMVS .......well....maybe his friends actually exist and touch grass? idk man...i do not have friends who are as degenrate as me. But lets all be very real...sumeru aint gonna bring shit...watch it literally be another inazum situation, I bet you that.

I feel like most of the issues people have with lack of endgame is playing genshin as an mmorpg when I at least don't think of it as one. I just think of it as botw whose lore and world keeps getting bigger with ever expanding cast and playable characters. The grind is optional and I just do it as it is very quick and I get more primos to be able to roll on new characters that interest me. If you are only looking forward to Sumeru I do recommend just taking a break from the daily grind if that is making you lose interest, though even if you do lose interest, not like you have to stop playing forever you could still login for when new areas/story come out, which I personally feel is the best way to play the game.

@@Pohatarunic6 ....but the way you think it does not change the game...it is still considered widely as a mmorpg and whether you like it or not, many people are not casual with this game and are quite the hardcore gamers who are not being catered to meanwhile the casual players are being one sidedly being catered to....so eventually its gonna explode, and if the game is fine with having one side leaving then fine, no need to change anything major. but if it wants to keep a majority of it happy then it has to find some happy meduim.

@@Pohatarunic6 yeah dude many people still thinks it's a MMO which idk why

not really, it is easier since 1.4 or 1.5 as I remember. Before that version it was hell, but so satisfying since not every play can clear 12-3. but now, it sucks. If you think the current abyss is very hard, it's probably a skill issue.

@@dad6666_ The difficulty might fluctuate from version to version, as well as depending on your team. But the general consensus is that there is a clear rising trend in difficulty.

i really agree lol, when the game in early release, there is just fatui and shield hilichurl at floor 12, they are really lacking ideas right now and only know make things harder i wish they make another challenge for us who play for a long time and get 36 stars, its boring, boring af that it had to stay like this for a long time but the thing i dont like the most that spiral abyss can make our hard earned primo useless cause not all character can be use, for example, venti vs big enemies, freeze team vs bosses spending money on those character and end up not using in the only end game we have right now in few patch is really hurt

Lol no i started my second account as f2p in 2.4 Already ar 45 and have 31 starred abyss. 36 ain't too far away. Just need like 4 weeks of artifact farming

@@RadialSeeker113 why would I *want* to farm for a month?

I'd rather it weekly like Honkai's version of Labyrinth (ER). No more every 2 week stuff. Even abyss in Honkai resets every 3 days instead of 2 weeks. That's too long.

Worse, you have to login twice a day if you want to maximise your resin because of the stupid 160 resin cap.

@@Ayasegaki why maximise resin, it's no worth the effort.

I agree there really is no reason to make us log in daily vs weekly with the amount of content there actually is. Just give us a weeks worth of resin and commissions and let us do them at our own pace. Some days I'm busy and not in the mood to play, other days I would happily sit there and do 15 commissions at once. I mean it's not that big of a deal and I'm sure it's even easier for mobile players (I'm on PS4) but it's still annoying.

its legit a skinner box game! and now with the indefinite ayaka update.

Agreed 👌

I agree with chest respawns. Well, I agree with most of it, but seeing those little boxes gets you excited to get to it and do the thing you have to do to open it. Even if the respawns dont give primos or other resin items (XP books and skill scrolls), its just the fun of collecting it that I enjoy.

@@Nunazac exactly

NO SKIP TICKETS. Let's go back to full manual gacha farming like back in pre-2016 gacha games.

@@digichu007 I don’t really personally need skip tickets but farming on genshin with this amount of resin is hardly possible anyway

Well, sadly only devs knows, and their databases. Only thing I know the type of content this game pushes are meant for casual alike. Those surveys over the years. Earns what majority players would like to see. Hence applying nonsense content to a game. Can deter time spent creating content for the majority of the players. We’re talking 6 wks per update. That’s too short. Games in this day & age can take huge contents for 4-12 months in general. Games such as ToF or MMO RPG. I unlikely would play as I retired 10k hrs wasted playing Destiny 2 and Warframe. I work and only play Apex and Genshin.

for a gacha game that is too monetized it is sure lacking in comparison of other gacha game. there are only genesis crystal topup, welkin moon and bp. I'd say hoyoverse should add seasonal discount sale.

@@smug_slime U mean that genesis crystals become cheaper?

@@smug_slime or rewards for topping up x amount of genesis crystals or topping up x amount of times.. I think thatd be cool especially for low spenders that often buy welkin/BP or even whales

@@smug_slime why add discounts when there are whales who are willing to spend 10+ millions total on a banner. There's nothing to incentivize them to do that. When it comes down to it, it's all about the bottom line. Unless they get a hit in their sales, they won't change anything drastic about their monetization system. (Well, because it's working :p)

@@johnsanimations2725 now there's a 3 weeks delay it's a perfect time to add sales because there's no character incentive since the only incentive to spend money is to get new characters the next 3 weeks gonna be dry as hell, might as well add another incentive to spend since it's cheaper now.

It's probably gonna be. It's ER in Honkai, but I don't think it's gonna be as hard as Honkai's version if they make it permanent. Labyrinth Warriors (ER) in Honkai is really hard to get all the crystals every week, but it's fun.

The way you said what the true endgame is ☠️💀☠️ facts though

>Ignore Twitter Based. That's a good step in the right direction.

Lmao, it's tragic but yeah... We'll see just how bad it is when they get a proper competitor.

Meta hurts Banner Sales

Work less, profits more! Instead of spending budget for more content they thought it'd be better to just make progress absurdly long and random. And lose progress for using a +20 artifacts for a fodder only to turn +16 and less and less... Other gacha games tend to shower us with characters after characters that they don't need something purely RNG such as artifacts to keep player retention with a sense of progression. Even though too much characters require lots of budget and would make them more forgettable at least the way I see it that is a better way to keep players busy grinding for progress. Alternatively, adding a new progress ceiling such as character lv +100 or awakening and stuff could be a good option to be lighter on the budget but still being a new content and more things to do.

idts the game is gonna die, it has its issues but most casuals who only log in for fun with no long term goal in mind don't really mind the flaws. Numbers dont lie and the game has been making big bucks

@@zenox1405 even titans fall. Just look at Call of Duty, Halo, World of Warcraft, PUBG, and many more. Everyone wondered who was gonna be the “x” killer but they ended up killing themselves by not listening to the feedback of the community. They were riding high on their success they either thought they knew better or didn’t listen to the community.

@@zenox1405 the game will die once the game has competitors.

@@adawongz That's why I'm happy that many Genshin "clones" are popping out now. I hope that gives Hoyoverse the incentive to be more proactive and add more interesting content to the game.

@@zenox1405 Game's dead anyways

Both Labyrinth Warriors and Divine Ingenuity could be combined in a single end-game area, with increasing difficulty, procedual dungeons and custom-made puzzle dungeons, each one with different rewards. I see no reason to stick with the outcrops and spend resin there, so why not making endgame content as a way to get mora and xp. Do you need mora? Let's try a dungeon here and win 10k, 12 dungeons later and you played a lot and get the same amount as the outcrop, but had tons of different experiences while playing instead of just one or two combats with normal enemies.

@@Bronze_Age_Sea_Person IKKKKK

The story continues but at a very slow pace

@@henri2421 That 'pace' kind of kill the momentum of players like me who only maxes stuff out because they wanna play the game and beat the boss while bragging a bit about their build.

@@rikumajumder1558 i agree bro

Nice name

@@KoroneKiris8378 which country you from?

I second this

Welcome to the real world, nothing in life is free

@@samin90 That's what I said, this game is not Free.

@@samin90 but there's a lot of white knight claiming this game is Free and we should be gratitude about the contents we're getting. Which is absurd

@@gordonfoo2416 So that's a big issue with this discussion the absurd assumption that combat is everything and all other interest are lesser or invalid. You'll notice that when criticism comes up people tend to basically point towards making Genshin PvP P2W or an MMO So while hardcore player's would enjoy that aspect since the game is meant for a broader appeal your asking a sizable amount of player to be forced into a narrow mindset for your personal enjoyment Especially without doing the proper work of analyzing the things people outside your group enjoy or the difficulty of applying certain systems. I would love all World Quest to be voiced but that's permanent content that inflate the game size and can't be removed like language's for Mobile When you say White Knighting your short handing to "People who tear down my argument" if any person could reasonably give ways to implement content that can appeal to everyone is accessible considers the limit of the combat will never get tiring and uses the games asset's Great but no one does they throw around P2W or PVP guilds and gated content. They try to break the system and don't understand why something function the way it does if you say "Resin is just a time gate" then you already don't grasp why removing it is terrible Your thinking surface deep

I would like to point out how terribly wrong you are, but I'm not big enough of a fan for kokomi to do that. So I'll just observe and wait for people to see and reply to your comment. And maybe hope for someone who has better understanding of the meta that can enlighten me (and you lol)

idk about your kokomi but mine did 7k per jellyfish tick thats enough to survive. you're right that she's not a must but rather a comfy character to have, and that makes abyss much more comfortable if you put her in the right unit. i still use the clam set on her, with EC and SC that bubble can pop up to 35k every 3 sec. with good rotation and enough er that jellyfish can have 100% uptime so you dont need to worry about dying. the thing about kokomi is that shes the best full time aoe hydro applicator at the moment, you never die when shes in the team. along with sukokomon i tried putting her in the electro charged team with kazuha fischl ayato and it works decently against multiple enemies

@@leoniichan1229 except that everything I said is true. What gives her a niche in meta is her off field hydro application + buffs thanks to the right equipment. I don't need enlightment, but maybe you can come down from your high horse and learn about the game before writing a pointless comment 😉

u dont even healing in a game as easy as this one. 1k heal every 3 would be easily enough

@@leoniichan1229 Take the L and quit, casual

If they gave me more pulls for weapons maybe I would have your crystals problem. I have thousands of them even though I never craft them every day.

i will have order

abyss used to be fun. floors 9-11 were fun bc they were very universal and gave a good indication that you were making progress. but at a certain point it just becomes a matter of "do you have xyz? yes? good. no? you're not getting to 12-3."

theyre already doing it in genshin...except its stuck in the weekly bounties. and despite the limitations, its still laughably easy.

Absolutely no weather in this game. Because of that, you literally are forced to pull the newest shiny character and their weapon at the minimum in order to keep up in Abyss. And if you can’t keep up, you get less Crystal rewards. It’s cool in theory but the way it’s most likely going to be implemented is going to make this game not so f2p friendly anymore

I’m also AR60 yet I like that rn I can have a break for whatever reason. I don’t play the game intesive. I’m more worried resin keeps piling up. When I play other games instead

Well explorations the only thing to do in this game.That itself gets very boring after you're done exploring coz the story is absolutely insipid and watery.So you do need more to do to keep you coming back...

I think Razor was in the shop last cycle

@@PlatinumLP I'm pretty sure Razor is still in. I at least keep pulling him despite not wanting him

I also encourage players to dive intp the lore. Genshin lore is so vast and there's a lot of content, yet it feels like people do not like reading.

Endgame content would need to give players rewards. Which they prefer to sell for money. That's all there is to it.

@@SeravySenseirewards for what if there's nothing to do with them? They are so cheap with rewards in this game that they could make much more content with rewards that it would still amount to barely nothing.

If their graph for profit is still going up or is consistent with their expectations then that tells them that players are happy with how things are. No point in fixing what's not broken. This is made worse by a community with no expectations for Mihoyo. Things are fine, just play casually, is what people are saying. So Mihoyo don't feel the need to improve on anything.

Which there is, Sumeru in 3.0

There’s quite a few, rosaria, kaeya, xiangling, Ningguang, yanfei, just to name a few. Even fischl, although she’s weaker as a dps imo. it’s no surprise that a 5 star dps will be stronger than a 4 star dps, but you can clear anything in the game using just 4 stars. You don’t need the most meta characters or teams Edit: I do agree with equalizing the amount of characters per element for 4 and 5 stars tho. Barbara ain’t cutting it if you need more than one hydro

I personally don't think this is a huge issue. 4* units have a very distinct advantage over 5* units; ease of obtaining constellations. Each 4* unit power spikes different with the amount of constellations, but it's often the case that a c4-c6 4* unit will outperform a c0 5* unit. People are still clearing abyss with 4* only teams so for the time being, I don't see 5*s as being strictly necessary to clear challenging content. That being said, I do agree we should be introduced to a 4* onfield hydro DPS in the future just because it's not in the game yet.

Yeah I can agree with this. While Rosa melt and taser are both quite good teams, that's about all you can do with only 4*s that's capable of clearing endgame at reasonable investment, which I think is a bit sad. People have said that it would be nice if they added some kind of "evolution" potential for 90'ing a character, actually it might be Vars that has a video about this lol, but it would be nice for units that have fallen off the meta or never made it in in the first place got another ability added to make them viable at least.

One place I kept going in Watatsumi island was that puzzle with the magic square. I was always intrigued since I solved it and the next day, it had another puzzle. Genshin's puzzles have a simple, easy logic. Most are thigns like lights-out in disguise, or use some math pattern, so why not resetting them? Also, there's the 4x of RPGs Quest Design: Exploring, Expanding, Exploiting and Exterminating. Fetch quests are boring because it only has the first two in mind. We have puzzles with big mechanisms, why only use them in their world quests? Why not add for example, hilichurl towers in Kannazuka for us to destroy with Kamujima cannons once i na while instead of some boring location. I always feel satisfied when ther are bombs near their camps, let me bombard them! Another example: Liyue have the Guizhong Ballista we fixed before, why can't we have an "archery" puzzle where we aim it the furthest possible? Some peoople already do with archers, so why not make with the ballista into an actual minigame? One example of minigame they didn't do well was the tracking part of weekly "boss" commissions. We just Elemental trace things, find a random ass light and Paimon reiterates the strength and weakness of the boss we already saw. Why not make it so by only finding these places, not by elemental trace but by real items( Or use it like Witcher 3 uses, where sound and sight also helps with tracking) we can pinpoint the enemy location and it's weakness, so we have plenty of time choosing what characters we should use at this time, and make the boss actually hard, like a world boss like Regisvine or Hypostasis, or even put a Regisvine or a Hypostasis, maybe two at once for a real challenge.

And I only think of combat as true “end game” because otherwise why are we all spending resin and rolling artifacts to min max our DPS?

@@fine2335 Game play loop that's really it. Example if you removed resin what happens. Either rates are tanked or your have the freedom to grind as much as possible. The value of resin is its use as a resource sink. Leveling up characters is consistent. If you use condensed or regular resin you will always be given a certain amount. The time it takes isn't that long so talents levels, weapon material, ascension there consistent and can be done very quickly So Artifacts just create an artificial game play loop think about it like Pokémon Standard level progression gets the job done it. But the Meta is EV and IV training its a game play loop that's mostly RNG So in competitive play its vital but Only in competitive. Genshin is an easy game and you'll get good artifacts eventually just from boss drops But for non casuals or meta its just a resource sink like if you have 1000000 Mora your not going to stress about leveling talents or buying things because nothing effects the amount. As a player you have nowhere to use that resource. Primogen are basically worthless. They have value because people want new characters but most characters aren't really better just niche or a side grade. But your brain doesn't like the idea of a resources not being used you see that number accumulate just from passive play and so your going to be itching to spend. Resin stops having a purpose if there's no time sink but removing it means people will basically grind out the content because you've removed the game loop.

I lost hope for that. The community is divided and many people are ok with current state of the game. For example if you try to discuss about these problems on some most popular Genshin subreddits, you will get downvoted and stormed with poor excuses they love to make. It's like people stay in defense for Hoyo no matter what. I'm day 1 player and this game hasn't improved much since release. There is more content, of course. To be precise - more exploration and quest content. But everything besides that stays the same. Not only there is almost nothing to do after you finish the exploration, but also things that you do everyday are pretty boring and not rewarding (artifact farming for example). I've really tried to make more people aware of these problems, but it's hopeless.

Good idea but rewards could be difficult to balance. Why bother doing a hard domain if you can do an easy one with same rewards. That’s assuming they even put out rewards

@@artswar404 just don't give out rewards, and improve its a lot then it'll be fun

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Then what do you have to say regarding how the gameplay mechanics is mostly against Geo and Physical?

@@stevieveringus3857 I have the same problem with this, that's a problem But Itto is my 3rd favorite character, I play a mono geo Team in all Abyss since I have him It can be difficult to beat Abyss, but I love this team so I do it, and I keep getting better :)

I still do them for extra mora