Why NO ONE Plays: Traveler (Aether/Lumine) | Genshin Impact 

Doesn't matter it's like when people pronounce diluc Die-luke

@@Axo.- how is it pronounced? Genuinely curious

Geo traveller is just useless. His only purpose is to be a budget source of geoconstructs to gather geoculus`. The best of three so far is electro traveller. Also Itto is surprisingly good, as well as Noelle (she has enough to be called good in my opinion)

@@matryoshkaaa6926 Deeluke

@@VarsII insert „deez nuts“ joke

But it would make them actually usable... And still, they wouldn't do as much damage as Ganyu, per se.

@@nickdagr8wiz Currently we got about 3 elements to switch between. It won't make them OP but it will make them a very Flexible Support.

i don't think they will ever do that, but i it would be cool that they let you choose which elemental hability and burst we use (example, use elemental hability of electro and burst of anemo)

@@aibadenshi With the current elements, the Traveler could be nearly self sufficient; crit boost, area of effect damage, crowd control, and battery all for themselves.

instead of being able to switch elements, how about just having traveler occupy more party slots with his different versions? later on when we get a 4th element, we can have traveler occupy all 4 party slots then.

*laughs in diona*

yep

@@yukk9481 well you could get her in one event so she basically was

*Laughs in Keya and Lisa*

@@yukk9481 if we count event given characters, yes

I prefer to use Lumine because it makes sense to use her to go around doing quests and all. However since we can only have four characters in a party, I find that I have to constantly switch her out with Barbra because as weak as Barbra is, at least she heals. Lumine has nothing going for her other than she’s the mc. That’s literally the only good thing about her. And since I have Keqing and Xiao, there’s really no space for her. Which makes me feel sad and quite guilty.

@@Sara-ik5po You can use some other healer instead of Barbara like Qiqi but if you don't have one use Noelle for healing. She is one of the best healers.

@@nigamrockstar7585 yes I have the function of having the HP regenerate while the shield is on. I’m in the process of raising her.

They don't like u to have a good character at the start. What if u don't pull for any other characters if u got Ur aether/lumine as a strong main character?

Your true tho

But the dendro traveller might get overcrept by other dendro units

@@Joodstudios Nah, it's already 3.2 and people are still using Dendro Traveler as well as Nahida, some teams even have them both.

They're better than collei in all honesty

People who couldn’t roll for nahida to traveller: How’s my favourite character?

@@lum3516 yeah I made a really good rotation using dendro aether that can eigher deal half or quarter health of a boss

But will mostly be better then-eh...okay no you're right

But a jack of all trades is better than a master of one

@@johnpauljonesisabadass8134 In this case all of their trades are way too jacked to justify the quote tho. Context matters.

The full phrase is “a jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.” It was a compliment.

That's more Jean

I hope some day they refund you the Material and make all Traveler lvl equal across the board...

So true

RIGHT! Like I understand the elemental skill and burst since we have to learn these new elements, but we already know how to use the sword why do we have to start all over again for the sword talent.

because for the sword every few hits does elemental damage (at least for geo)

Not to mention you have to use 3 talent book materials for each elements, every talent level up uses different books like mhy why

Same feeling

same, idk why but I can't imagine her not being in my team

Same it feels like watching an anime with no protagonist

​@@starryskies0EXACTLY

​@@starryskies0or the walking dead without rick grimes

Yes they have most dialogue without saying anything. And we couldn't even choose what to say. Mihoyo forced us to say "I trust you Dainslaif" But I wanted to say I trust my sister. Bruh. Lol traveler

They really should take some of the times Paimon is speaking and give it to traveler. There are some instances where she goes completely uninterrupted that would flow better with a line from the Traveler.

My theory is that they're gonna introduce new options after traveler gets all the elements, maybe switching between elements or using the "light" element (hopefully both). The traveler is a 5-star after all and we know that they haven't unlocked their full power yet nor have they got their original weapon back. They might become the meta by the time the game ends, they're the protagonist after all.

@@_J_KallolBhattacharyyai think they meant most dialogue as in what you can find in the voice over menu of their character, there's tons of voice acted conversations between the traveler and paimon in there and the traveler has a lot of personality in those. it is a shame that a lot of that personality gets lost in quests where the traveler barely speaks at all and when you have chat options it's often all basically the same choices and often not very in character (like having to say you trust dainsleff while the traveler would probably be more on guard or at least be more sassy about it, it's all just to get the story going more quickly but it also breaks immersion)

I wholeheartedly agree.

I wish there's a different character who is the self-insert that also makes sense lorewise

@@skrrtskrrt2410 That wouldn't work though as the Traveler is the main character, they can't have another main character to put in cut scenes instead. They plan the cut scenes around the traveler. It's too late to introduce a third main character choice as most players will have completed most of the game.

right? like i've said this countless times before but this whole silent protag self insert doesnt work BECAUSE THEY GAVE THE TRAVELLER THEIR OWN PERSONALITY. if they were just a cardboard cutout we could just shove our face into then it wouldnt be as bad but theyre playing a middle ground and it doesnt work. imagine having the traveller speak so little times you remember every single one because it's just that astounding. groundbreaking even. imo silent protags only work in stuff like otome games. the only way i can think of to really solve this problem is to have a voice pack available for the traveller in all languages in the 'other' section in settings. people who dont want traveller to talk could just not download it and those who do can and enjoy an actual protagonist.

I honestly prefer Aether./Lumine as their own character rather than someone we can project ourselves onto. I think their designs are cool and original too, they have an interesting story behind them... I wish they fully committed to making them original characters and gave them more voicelines. (i'm an Aether main btw & love him)

Actually this make a little sense to me... i maybe will do that when the next story related content is add

I also done that, its feel really weird if traveler is not there, which also make me I quite invest in traveler

I do that to, also build her as a phys dps so i dont have to refarm artifacts with child for his passive upgrade.....imagine childe as support.....

how F2P they are forced To use Him whether they WANT or Not!!

lol me too. it feels so awkward specially on early playthrough. I approached Amber as Amber, the character then automatically switches to traveler. Although it felt nice not talking to Amber as Amber it's still kinda weird to me when going near her without switching to traveler first. I might as well get used to that soon though cause I think I moved a little fast that my traveler is not dealing enough damage anymore so I gotta change to characters that has an actual help.

Yeah especially noticeable with his/her interactions with paimon when its just the two of em

that plus a passive that stays on regardless of element would be good

Yeah....the skill scalings aren't even that bad, but the stats are so abysmal.

Also sword talents carry over elements pleaseeee

Idk the point of the game is to learn about as you go, referenced in the beginning of the game how you don't remember what happened, and would the story be that good if you knew everything that happened and just looked for your sister? I like the aspect of learning about the character as we go and I'm sure we're obviously gonna get more as we go along. I do agree that him being boring is kinda lame and wish there was more options for diplogue during the selections of voiceless etc, but I personally don't mind.

@@noahbeyer1141 I agree with that, I like that aspect of the game too. I just feel like we could get some more, maybe not more backstory but more about Traveller now and I really hope everything will be explained at the end

exactly! I hope we'll learn more about traveler as the story progresses and a glider/skin designed for twins would be awesome as well.

agreed. im pretty greatful for the voicelines theres new ones for every city it seems and the twins seem to be distinctly different from eachother rather than copy paste which is great! i chose aether and i like the cuteness n softness he seems to show in his voicelines and i wish we cld hear him talk more. theres no way its tht hard to have the voice actors act the lines we choose right :/ paimon does it. i wld love less of her talking and more of the traveler talking. its their story after all, not paimons

@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. oh really? I didn‘t know they actually have different personalities, that‘s really cool!

lol i play the same characters, + noelle or barbara...i have been testing yanfei+beidou+xinqiu for max dmg, but i need better artifacts

Cool

OMG, big brain moment. That would work epically well cuz then you could level only the talents you're interested in (one of the biggest turn aways for maiming traveler). And would make them feel special/powerful without adding TOO much complication. Very smart

I'd really love if they were in a permanent fifth team slot and had the ability to change elements.

Who cares about OP at this point I’m down if they’re given the ability to change elements instantaneously and even if they use all of them at once

Would be nice if like we could at least replace a Party member with the other element traveller is using

We already switch elements mid fight. That’s the point of the game LMAO

I have an idea. We rework them and I might comeback to this to make a few adjustments. Lvl90 (without artifacts) HP: 25,000 Attack: 5000 Defense: 5000 Elemental Mastery: 2500 Crit Rate: 100% Crit DMG: 750% Elemental DMG: 175% Elemental Res: 95% Physical DMG: 150% Physical Res 95% Healing Bonus: 100% Energy Recharge 500% Shield Strength: 250% Elemental Skill Cooldown: 4-12seconds Elemental Burst Cooldown: 12-20 seconds Energy Cost: 40 A button above the elemental skill can be used to stop time and change the Traveler’s element via a wheel system and after pressing an element the Traveler will switch to that element and this won’t have a cooldown. There’s also a button the centre of the wheel that once charged by charging all the elemental bursts can be pressed and can allow the Traveler to use multiple elements simultaneously. All Talents percentage are summed up and are shared since they gonna use all of the elements. Additionally the Traveler is gonna have a talent that creates wave slashes for each element and includes a physical wave slash as well and does the same amount of damage as their attacks. A star mark will applied on the enemies each time the enemy is hit by the traveler’s attacks including elemental skill and elemental burst as well as their wave slashes, it will deal a 10-25m wide AOE elemental and physical damage which also includes the elemental reactions. For their new elemental skills: Anemo: with this element resistances and immunities are both shredded down to zero and ignored . -Elemental Skill: Charges up a violent wind tunnel that deals Anemo and Swirl damage and expands an entire arena and pulls all enemies except for the bosses and then when it’s unleashed it’s final phase it pulls all enemy types except bosses to the centre and can be aimed which will be fired at a maximum distance of 5-10m away from the traveler’s current position and does rapid swirl damage and then explodes after a few seconds dealing Anemo and Swirl Damage. Elemental Burst: Creates a massive Tornado with unfathomable speed with a much stronger suction power and swirl damage speed rate and lifts the enemies off the ground just enough for them to be in the air and be attacked by all melee characters and launches all of the enemies high up in the air after the duration is finished which will deal additional Anemo and swirl damage and increases their fall damage drastically. Geo: Shreds and ignores enemies defence -Elemental Skill: Summons four enormous Geo spires from the sky which is surrounded by a Geo Shield both of which scales up to 2500% of the Traveler’s HP with high resistance to Physical and Geo and if another element that crystallises with the geo shield from both the party members including the ones not on the field but also attacks from the enemies and deals a 20m wide AOE Geo damage which shreds the enemies defence but act as one Geo structure that can fit all of the other Geo constructs no matter what and creates quake effect that does additional and rapidly repeating AOE Geo damage with a 25m wide circle and constantly shreds defence, Holding the elemental skill will also allow the Traveler to aim where to summon the Geo Spires and they can be climbed onto and be placed anywhere however enemies cannot end up on the top and the geo spires can stack around each other if one is summoned onto an existing one until it creates a perfect circle. Elemental Burst: after unleashing a huge amount of Geo energy into the ground causing an Earthquake it will deal a rapid repeated amount of AOE Geo damage with a 100m wide circle and the burst will also synergise incredibly well with the Geo stalagmites as they will also cause an Earthquake just as powerful as the burst while also creating a wall of stalagmites and completely destroys the enemies’ defence. Electro: This Element is based off of Energy Recharge. -Elemental Skill: tapping the elemental skill will engulf all of the opponent’s on the field with a flurry of bolt slashes dealing electro damage enemies hit by the elemental skill will drop a dragon crest magatama which is worth 15 energy and this could be used repeatedly if the elemental skill button is used and timed right. Holding the Elemental skill will slow time to a halt and unleash an omnidirectional attack in the form of a few dozen bolt slashes that will deal double the damage and will drop double the energy worth of dragon crest magatama but at the cost of an increased cool-down. Elemental Burst: As the sky becomes darker than night the Traveler unleashes thundering might and strikes down all opponents and knocks them up in the air and relentlessly strikes the opponents while knocking them back and then a final more powerful strike will hit all of the enemies after the burst’s duration, after unleashing the burst the Traveler’s movement speed, attack speed and charged attack speed is increased drastically and now the elemental skill will deal hextuple the damage and will be constantly generating elemental energy for the entire party and all party members’ Electro Damage and Crit DMG will be drastically increased and the cool-down will be erased until the burst’s duration ends. All elements simultaneously: The Traveler unleashes their full potential and uses all the elements they have acquired simultaneously The elemental skill and element burst button will then have same wheel system is and you can choose which element skill and the same goes for the elemental burst button Final Burst: after fully charging their ultimate burst and unleashing their full power the Traveler summons all the party members and they all use their bursts at once with the Traveler unleashing a more cataclysmic version of their burst starting from Anemo, Geo, Electro and eventually in the future; Dendro, Hydro, Pyro and Cryo. Talent lvl1-10: Normal Attack: Attack 1: 100% - 200% Attack 2: 125% - 250% Attack 3: 150% - 300% Attack 4: 175% - 350% Attack 5: 200% - 500% Attack 6: 225% - 450% Attack 7: 250% - 500% Charged Attack: 500%+500% - 1000%+1000% Elemental Skill: 500%-1000% Elemental Burst: 1000%-5000% Or they could at least do all that but a little more tame. Things I’d also like to point out: -The Traveler will get a 5* burst animation like the others. -The Traveler shares their stats and combines them with their other party members and the total sum would become all the party members stats. -The Geo Spires will have the Geo Insignia at the centre of them seem as if they have been formed from the corners of the insignia. -The Star Mark is like Childe’s Riptide and Vergil’s Judgment Cut but with all the elements the Traveler has acquired and also deals physical damage and scales off of 100% of all the stats including elemental mastery. -They also will be able to use all weapon types and can use two types of weapons at once (like using a sword and then switching to bow) and this can be done by using a button next to the attack button, the weapons also add on to the Traveler’s stats. -If the Traveler is on the party all resonances will be activated and possibly if the twins reunite and the twin you didn’t select can becomes a member of your party, adding them will drastically increase the resonances’ effects or if the twin you didn’t select perishes most likely at the hands of the twin you selected, that twin would most likely pass on their power to the twin you selected and create the same effect. -If there’s only one enemy in the area the Anemo Traveler’s Elemental Burst Tornado will quickly follow them and slow the enemies down until they’re in the centre of the Tornado. -The Elemental Burst duration for all elements the Traveler has acquired will be 1-5 minutes -The energy accumulation for the Traveler’s burst is shared for all the elements but the bursts can be activated separately/individually -Additional Crit Rate above 100% will be converted to Crit DMG. -Should there ever be an option for sword users to dual wield with two swords, my buffed Traveler would basically have double the performance. -Their artifacts will be unique to them and can only be equipped by them and they’ll be 5* artifacts and will have every single main stat for each one combined and be multiplied by 5 but no substat as there is no need for a artifact with all stats.

The thing is that you’ll have to invest a LOT on MC’s talents if you really want to play them. Even IV you only want to specialize on 2 elements (let’s say cryo and pyro) you’ll have to level up 2 CHARACTERS worth of talents. I think you should just have more materials needed to level up MC’s talents than the normal character but keep the upgrades between elements.

The Electro buff does exist only switching the characters

u can actually deal damage with the geo construct when broken. u can put one infront of the wolf boss charge, and itll deal dmg. it also works with the ruin guard spin attack and eye of the storm charge.

Electro one is made to be a battery. If you want to "fix" the skill cooldown just give them sacrifice sword. Geo is the only that can be a dps, you don't want to reduce the construct hp since they're pretty useful if you know where to put them. And the anemo trav, well it's mainly to control the mazes, take care little enemies so you can focus damage on the big one with your dps. Each traveler has their utility, thing is notice the strong points.

You can also make the tornado follow the closest enemy

Geo boulders from the Traveller DO deal a small AoE damage when they break. And if you place the boulder almost in the center of the ult, the constructs resonate with each other, grinding mobs' HP. Among the elements, Geo is where the Traveller shines the most. ;) ( and if you have Zhongli, a pillar, a boulder, Traveller Q, sit back and relax watching the enemies being staggered losing ton of HP per tick).

Honestly I believe the same, plus their color palette heavily implies it. Maybe they would have different forms of light though? Aether being the sunlight and Lumine being the moonlight

That'd be cool, but coming from someone who only really wants to play to complete the story, it kind of sucks that the mc will be terrible up until the main story is (most likely) reaching it's conclusion.

@@bradenallen1241fair enough but I think celestia will be added as a final playable area after shneznia no clue how to actually spell that btw Just my theory, it would make sense

Honestly, electro traveler needs some reworking. I played with him for like 10 minutes and went back to anemo immediately

@@sidr8920 same I did the same thing with geo but have since switched to a maining geo Lumine so I thought that would happen with electro too. It has not haha

Not me only using for to climb up mountains and get floating oculi

Geo Traveler still outdamages Zhongli. But they make a great combination with the 7 Resonance structures.

@@fa14bi-78 even ninguang outdamage most of the unit due to high multiplier, that's not the point here

@@igg12 One point was low damge across the board, and that's simply not the case, as geo traveler is without build up the best burst dps in game, because of his high scaling. The Geo Traveler falls back in consistent dps, but killing a group of specters by Simply pressing the burst, and getting it Reacharged again already in a lot of cases ist kinda nice. The traveler is not one of the Strongest units in game, but people really like to think that they are worse then they actually are.

Aloy *cough*

@@fa14bi-78 Hmm I'd like to see how geo traveller is the best burst dps. That's quite a large claim.

and Kaeya

@@lughlugh5948 kaeya is overrated

@@antonin2478 I'm still building him up nontheless for my Sayu-team

@@gilroyscopa good

Thank you, that shows how stupid this logic really is. Same with the power creep mentality other Gatcha uses to keep selling. It's all just a pitiful excuse to justify predatory practices.(Not appliable to genshin so far, but easily seen in some other gatcha)

Do you still use her almost a year later?

Do you?

Yeah i wanted to build her full since she was my dps but levelling up her talents was so unfair, especially the normal attack ones. It would have been better if the talents were all on the same level in every element. My dps now is tartaglia lol. But anyways i can't wait for the pyro and cryo traveller though.

Me too as aether mc I ditched him at ar20 bc save primogems for eula and build xiangling kaeya lynette and noelle

But that's almost in the end if the game ... there's no guarantee game will continue that far and so we will just stay with undeveloped MC for the majority of the game

Tell that to xinyan and Thoma

Hydro Traveller seems nice every Hydro characters so far are really strong and useful

@@pjenk201 traveler will always be weaker than 4 stars, but does one thing better than everyone else expect the archons, so depends on the Hydro archon

@@viciousviego2478 what's the one thing he does better than the archons?

Make it like the food gadget and be able to switch between your current active element to another with a button. Maybe set a preferred element out of combat, and during combat you can switch between the two with Z.

Maybe it could be like interacting with the extra Anemo/geo/electro culus

@@martin_fn22 oh that's a great idea. They're like a piece of the Statues' power that we carry with us, so it would be perfect

@@martin_fn22 Personally, I’m imagining they’ll be used to open a door to Celestia or something. Or maybe to craft into some end-game-gadget, but I can see your suggestion as a possibility

i think it makes sense for the E and Q to be leveled seperately, but why the hell does the traveler need to relearn their autoattacks every time they get a new element???

Problems is that the Archon banner usually would appear after 1-2 banner.

@@aibadenshi Although considering the story Sumeru will have its assumed that the lesser lord kusanali is not the real archon or atleast the real archon isnt considered the archon by their people so since that could insue having trouble figuring out who the archon is like venti and zhongli which we also didn't know was an archon it could be awhile before we get the actual dendro archon's banner

Probably adding New chars in for Dendro lmao

They could still do a similar treatment to polearms, though probably not as notorious since it's easier to just keep adding a type of weapon than a type of element. On launch, the only polearm user was Xiangling, but now we have a total of 7 users. Edit: let's not forget that Shenhe and Yun Jin are also polearm users that will be added next patch.

@@dapes- to many ):

ar 41 here and i use anemo traveler as sub dps cuz i don't have any other anemo character :')

if were going in line with the lore. This game won't make sense. Ningguang is almost archon like in lore. Xiao is an adeptus. Raiden Shogun will just decimate anybody even without her Gnosis. If you match the traveller with the lore, then it would be unfair to say not to match others.

Ma' man, same here

GeoTraveler main myself; for budget Zhongli tho... Traveler can Solo the Childe Boss if you have some form of elemental support like Raiden Shogun's skill.

Same, i like playing with aether too. He is a really refreshing character.

Saame, he just feels fun, even if weak, he is just fun and for me that's all that matters

As an Aether main (I routinely use all elements but I do use Electro right now), I definitely agree. Traveller's mechanics isn't too hard to understand so you can oonga boonga with them anytime, or even just quickswap them if you already got a main dps on your team. Hoping that Mihoyo can give us even just the ability to change elements with going to SoS.

Seeing people like you makes me so happy!! 😖💕

Well in abyss traveler would be just a waste of slot

THESE, the problem with changing elements mid battles is that the artefacts wouldnt work cuz it needs to be so specific, having the exclusive set to MC would solve this problem, also they need to give skins to MC, like when we use the mask or the uniform from teppei

Maybe when it's almost end game , they will give it

@@Alextl-cm4vu brrooooo I full on agree

Mhm

I want a set with 78.5% ANEMO Bonus and Crit Rate 55.9%, Crit Dmg 63.6%, 10,000 hp

ive been playing for about a week now, I actually like Lumine a lot and it hurts seeing people telling me that she isnt good. Currently i dont have any othet character i can use for my main so I use her and it works just fine. Plus her wind attacks react with almost every other element so I see no reason swapping her. But yeah, seeing how everyone bashes the traveler makes me feel bad

@@lukev.evergarden9048 i feel you omg. I've been playing for a month now and i am planning to keep aether as my main. I have other characters who i could easily put as my main but i won't. Eather has a special place and dw abt what other people say. You do you :)

@@lukev.evergarden9048 Felt the same about Amber bashing. But what I learned about Genshin is, anyone is good. You just gotta know how to play them or else they're "ass" to you. Like Mage characters. I LOVE them character-wise. But Idk how to play them. However, Yae Miko is the ONLY Mage character I figured out how to use well enough to my liking. I really suck with the rest of the Mage users.

All characters can be strong, especially in the main game. Most technical complaints come from people only discussing abilities in their context for Spiral Abyss or domains, and not everyone is interested in grinding them.

agreed! the burst could be so SO strong when you pair it up with other elements.

I mean the Zhongli Traveller resonance combo is irreplacable

This is why I call Kazuha Walmart Aether.

@@Ibwidana I mean how can you complete Zhongli's pillar without Geo traveler's E? 😁😁

@@zendao7967 ahhahahahah

@@zendao7967 omg yeah ur right. Gotta complete deeznuts

EXACLY Same here with Lumine as a main, I just like going threw the story with the actual main charater

Oml an Aether main! I swear I never see anyone actually playing him besides me. Nothing against lumine but I prefer Aether's design so much more. It actually feels otherworldly to me, whereas lumine just feels like a discount Barbra imo

Lol same! I’ve used Lumine since day one but now she’s 20% more built than almost everyone (venti is an exception) but I do barely any dos without her so I’m glad I built venti too

@@detailedgacha7098 I was maining Aether until he needed 30 windwheel asters... Suffice to say I never did that and now I've built up chongyun and Yelan to form an amazing freeze team with Qiqi support and a plug-and-play spot, mostly used by Thoma

@@michaelgates3999 you can get 30 wind asters in like 10 minutes lol. Sevens tower near dawn winery, sevens tower at the big tree, and anywhere in storm terrors lair. I just had to get 60 for her lol

or like picking a main element and then just doing extra things with the other elements you have passively

the best idea ever

@@ivanseryogin6526 So, like Aphelios' gun system?

@@fanficologist6621 idk what that is but probably yes

@@ivanseryogin6526 Aphelios have a system of five guns, each with unique identity, and his basic skills change based on which gun he hold in his main hand (like traveller have different elemental skill in each form) However, Aphelios can also hold another weapon in his off-hand to add an additional property to his basic skill. Imagine if Traveller has Anemo as main element and Electro/Geo as off-element. They can count as both Anemo and Electro/Geo for elemental resonance and their Palm Vortex also spawns additional energy particle (Electro's identity) or create a shield/break enemy shield (Geo's identity)

In personalities I like lumine the most, she has some humor, I just don't like that the mc is used as the errand girl or boy and that feels kind of disrespectful imo. The only other character I like a bit is Xiao and that is because I felt that compared to others he didn't intend to use you directly or inderictly, and it is one of the few that protected you and helped you. Knigths of favonious, Venti etc you are just an errand person to them, characters like tartaglia tried to kill you and then use you to baby sit where is the coherence in you still talking or being with them?

@@Chelsso0 yeah I get that. I find it annoying that the characters never truly show Lumine their appreciation, or at least, the payoff in most cases never feels to personal to her. The only place where something good happened for her was after the Liyue archon quest where she gets to put up posters to find her brother. I like Xiao too also I get the Tartaglia argument but ngl I like him a lot so I'm biased 💙 and I didn't mind Tucer, he was super cute. But I would have liked for that quest to have at least given Lumine a better reward.

i'll let you know if i find the personality

you know something is about to go down when she puts her hands on her hips

@@Chelsso0 Mona did use us as an underling during her hangout quest, but has also been there to save us from Scaramouche after sensing his power (or intent? Idk) I'm general though we do just get used as an errand runner which sucks

That was my thoughts before I saw, Wanderer and pulled for him. Before one of my last wishes I told: Pleace give me Wanderer I would even take Lumine (Anemo) away for him. And yeah... Next pull I got him.... But I maybe could use her as Anemo..... I don't need Xiangling...

sameee, i feel weird if she isnt there

Lmao same totally not because I simp haha

Right it doesn’t feel right not playing traveller when they’re the mc especially when it suddenly changes to a cutscene, the only time he’s not in my team if I wanna do commissions or I wanna try a new team but he’s staying in my main team forever

i also used to always have lumine in my team, but ever since i got venti, i replaced him qith her to level him up and also for friendship, but i could never fight andrius without her, and since i mostly solo andrius and not co-op it, so she's always there with me whenni fight andrius and dvalin 😂

Samee!

10 crowns?

@@nervesofsteel1865 1 from non-element basic attack travelers; 3 crowned anemo talents; 3 crowned geo talents; And 3 crowned electro talents. There's your 10 crowned travelers.

absolute mad lad!

@@Kanade_Frisk_20 but thats 9?

@@milkshake2331 3+3+3+1 = 10

Traveler is plenty stronger lorewise but they're not making him/her op because it's free character, and this is gacha game, i feel disappointed when they don't do good for traveler everytime

The main characters itself are better than the main character

Even has a traveler made myself, I gotta admit it would be pretty weird for a gacha game to have your starting character be all that great. I mean, where's the incentive to roll for new characters if the ones you start out with are all you need?

@@MrGamelover23 there are 4 characters in ur team, if 1 is strong 3 more characters would be desirable also u r not gonna use same character in every situation.

traveler mains unite!!

True. I have his C5

I have him also C5. I was about to flip my &$#@ when Kaeya was almost bad-mouthed, lol. I have, Ganyu, but I use Kaeya also often. His elemental does good damage and has low CD, and the burst is excellent when using Raiden.

@@SandorBR Good luck getting his C6 and if not, he is back in Paimon's store in June haha

@@postivelove2370 good for both of us! I bought him 2 times, the 3rd is the charm.

Kaeya is amazing as a Physical DPS too. He currently has the highest AA multipliers and when built correctly he can absolutely wreck everything ( for reference mine did 17k plunge attack from Zhongli's pillar with full blizzard set, physical damage bonus cup and aquila favonia at level 69)

As an Aether enthusiast, I am eagerly waiting for skins. Please give us!!

I’m the opposite, Geo is the best for me

As a Lumine Enthusiast, scream it louder for the people at the back

Aether main here ✌🏻

@@rimurutempest4945 i don't like geo at all because imo, it's more of a meh element 😭😭 it has no interesting reactions :(

@Félix i have him in a full team but most of the time i only just play as him if im too lazy to switch to other units and he hits like a truck. bear in mind that i have him triple crowned and invested the best weapon (jade cutter) and artifacts for him 🌚

Also adding unique burst animations would be cool, justify that 5 star status somehow idk.

@Félix I do! I only use other characters for puzzles so that I can get the rewards for it. So far I've never had any major complications. There are a few enemies that will make you question your exitance such as abyss mages and the fatui soldiers. In those cases you have to either get creative or just brute force your way through them with physical attacks. Anything besides that can be compared to Dark Souls or Monster Hunter, lots of dodging, attacking when you have a brief window of opportunity, oh and you'll probably want a lot of food to buff / heal yourself.

@@fsn1749 Which element are you using? I have Anemo double crowned but for the most part I am using triple crowned Electro. And as far as my calculations go, Jade Cutter is only his second best weapon, Aquila Favonia is best in slot because of the physical damage bonus.

Solely Aether. Damn that's dedication to the lore. I'd like to try that too, but like you've mention it's tedious to have to raise Lumine's talents over and over again. Not to mention the artifact farming...

I have the same case with aether, windblade is great in my opinion

Yo me too but with aether

@@shikhamichael1832 #traveler mains

Same lumine is really strong for me

Same case for me, with Lumine

Tbh ameno tactical is really good imo

wIIINBLADE!

Saaame. People in co-op sometimes question me like: "why are you using the traveler of all characters lmaooo" but I need it for immersion and every world quest/story quest/hangout I have the traveler in the team and try to make it work with the other 3.

Traveler ascension was meant to be newbie friendly, but sadly I hope it can change ascension bonus for every element like, electro is er, geo is cdmg, and so on

It would make absolutely no difference since every other scaling is still shit, no amount of crit can rectify that.

@@SmugHomura just make them play as twins with 2 different elements (can swap between male and female traveler but only take up 1 spot)

These are fair arguments but there is one single issue that prevents me from not seeing the traveller as bland: they don’t talk in the quests. It’s paimon talking. And so the traveller feels like an outcast despite apparently being the protagonist

@@tiramisu7544 paimon is traveler translator. Just hope that future chapter traveler is speaking, signaling their masteri of tevyat language.

Yesss

same lol but im just way too comfy w lumine n shes become too dear for me to get her out of my team.

Same I love Lumine and I really don't care much for hurrying through the game or having high stats in general. I'm just vibing tbh

@@francescapatti2934 Sameeeee

THESE ARE MY PPLLLLL.. I LOVE LUMINE SM SHE'S SO PERFECT AND COMFORTING. I KINDA WISH I WAS HER EMERGENCY FOOD.

Yanfei dominance

i didnt knew ppl dont like yanfei... i got her at ramdon in the gatcha, test her kit... and i actually find it fun, i use her a lot.

I play with traveller, amber, barbara, noelle. Soo i am with you buddy

Funny, Im saving for Yanfei (since my luck is bad at getting 5* haha)

@@william_6819 i feel you.. i started to not vare about 5* and focus in 4*.

She was community choice, so more like her being chosen to be free was because people were already using her because she was good.

@@TimeKitt And then Lantern Rite came

barbara is also pretty good, not a bad healer if you don't have any other characters

i'd say even noelle, barbara (especially with the new clam set), and kaeya are the exception because these units are pretty strong, not the best but definitely better than the other 3 free starters. xiangling is far better that those mentioned above tho, she literally is the best pyro dps in the game

@@googlrscholar eh depends on best pyro dps. With the current floor 12 hi Tao is probably better and on the last abyss both were the best depending on which half you put them in. Just depends on whether genshin is tilting to single target or multi target at the moment.

I hope it's hydro, because we are really lacking on hydro supports right now. I'm tired of all the healers. Xingqou carrys the whole element and we only have 1 of him. So I wish that hydro travaler can make up to that

Same, my team feels empty without him. 🥲💗

Aether main!!! Ever since I played, and I've been told that the way I design things (artifacts) is strange. "But it works", is what they've said, and you know what, it does. Aether is either my biggest stacked damage with his anemo, and great for exploration; his E is literally a huge chunk of rock that deals crit damage to bosses. Haven't invested much in electro, but those Anemo is splendid as hell. I've got better characters but I found myself just enjoying my merry band of unconventional choices. My main two are Aether and Kaeya, and the other two are switched for whatever I feel like. Bennett and Xingqui through wishes, but otherwise, I use Xiangling, Barbara, Amber and Lisa, given free. Got Albedo last time and while I leveled him up, I haven't moved him up with my Traveler + 4 stars/starter team group. Got Mona. Didn't like Mona HAHA It really is about the enjoyment of using them. I would love to get the starter team buffs-- because they could honestly use it, but Aether/Traveler does mean damage when you give him good artifacts, and don't compare yourself to other characters. He's fun and stable to play :D

Same!! He’s always in my team

I still use anemo aether at AR54 hahah the one character that was pretty much always on my team haha

@@ThoseFerrets Anemo Lumine user at AR54 here.... holy shit the twin thing goes deep

Agreed, I was just about to say that too. Mash may have started of weak, but progressing through the story, she develops and becomes one of the best tanks/supports in the game. (We do not talk about LB Mash) Considering how you aren't even forced to use LB Mash in events and in challenge quests, she's theoretically the best tank support in the game. (Unless someone in JP dethroned her, idk)

​@@jackneoh8717 Ortinax Mash is such a downgrade compared to OG Mash but even then she still finds some use in my team by baiting bosses and proc-ing 500-Year Obsession 😂

@@PsycheTrance65 Plus, not only is Ortinax Mash only forced during story segments (meaning you can have her default to using her pre-Ortinax kit for the vast majority of difficult even content where you might actually need it), by the time it is forced on you you should have a roster powerful enough to deal with it. And, as you said, Ortinax is not without its genuinely good uses; a free (both in terms of monetary and party cost) 2T taunt + 1T invul w/o CEs is pretty damn useful for numerous setups even into the late game, especially given how rare taunt CEs are (in fact, IIRC we don't get another one now that Poster Girl rerun has passed).

Came here to defend Mash, saw other people on it already =w=

The good ol Mash Merlin DPS combo got me through all the difficult content in the game. Shes one of the best units in the game.

Well... yeah. You can't have some random 4 star outdo Baal. Why do you think they nerfed Lisa in 2.1 when Baal released? For fun?

@@jadecoolness101 Except none of them are even comparable to Raiden since she outdamages both of them by a mile. In terms of energy gen though Electro Traveler can already beat her, it's just that they get screwed by poor burst uptime even when built completely for ER. Lisa is just a result of Lisa's kit being clunky and dysfunctional since launch.

@@sweetillusions5495 I'm not sure how Lisa's kit being clunky relates to her being nerfed when Baal was released but ok XD

I personally dont have that problem. I have Favonius Sword at R3 so I get good use for Electro Traveller.

@@jadecoolness101 how exactly was lisa nerfed? Kinda missed it

I think that the reason for this is that the traveler has the most basic use of the elements, so it's not as funny or as striking as other characters with those same elements. For example Kasuha: He has this leap with anemo power and does a cool anemo plunge, and then he uses his sword to create a beautiful anemo zone. And traveler, he launches wind small and then big. This happens with other elements, and with other characters, but as you say, the traveler is the most basic and underdeveloped one. Even with all of this, I really like the traveler, because I got used to it's mechanics and because I always play the history using him, I don't like to have him out of the team just to see him in the next cutscene, it feels unearned. Also sorry for the mucho texto.

I like the traveler alot. Just wish that they didn't make u level up the talent ALL OVER AGAIN FOR EVERY ELEMENT

I wish there was (or will be) a way to play them as a relatively good dps with more fun mechanics, because I genuinely like many things about lumine, outfit, personality (from her ingame voice lines) and more.

but how are they boring? especially anemo? compared to xiao or ganyu THAT is boring gameplay xD and people still never say these are boring. or having people like the greatsword ones that merely slam only or people like yanfei where you only hold and press hold and press. in terms of being boring especially geo and anemo don't seem boring at all. electro to main them to me is only benficial if they are built not electro but physical. but there i would agree its a boring gameplay (and similar to beidou which I also class as boring)

I just wish that they would give the main characters ultimate burst a animation to make it feel more special and make people want to use them more. Also Thier design in terms of outfit is not all that special. Changing the element only changes the color of the outfit. These isn't any major changes. They could have made it so each element u change has like a design Influenced by the place/area

Pull an awakened traveler? NAH THEY BETTER GIMMIE THAT FOR FREE I AINT FARMING JUST TO PULL AN AWAKENED TRAVELER 😭😭😭

I run 4pc severed fate for burst dmg multiplier and festering desire for elemental skill multiplier, so i get 32% for the skill and 45,53% for the burst (due to the energy recharge i have). These multipliers allow you to run attack goblet (since i switch elements ALOT) and the damage wont stay behind ^^ all i got to worry is leveling talents to improve damage

At most u can keep the set just change the goblet lmao

@@yukinoarts no really need to change (: geo is dealing 16.5k and 10.7k in skill and ulti and if i pop a bennett ult, 29k and 21k

me with gladiator set with godly sub stats: Tengo el poder y me la pelas

@@SniperFallen06 ahh i had my time using 4pc gladiator xD i used to love it

No. Rest assured, Mihoyo will gut the MC every opportunity to "incentivize" spending. There is no profitable benefit to powering up a character no one has to pay for, or ever pay for. So there is no incentive for Mihoyo to ever power them up beyond any four star character they release that will always perform any single role you can think of for the Traveler, but better.

@@SeraphimDragon I doubt it'll stay that way for long. Unlike their other games, they gave us a full on video showcasing every chapter for Genshin, meaning the story will eventually end. And if it does end then there's not really much of a point to add more characters so it's possible that they will buff the Traveler once it's all over. Especially since apparently we're gonna fight Dainsleif once we're done.

@@SeraphimDragon I invite you to search up Augment Cores my Angelic Dragon Friend. AC are like the Sword of The Father in FFXIV, they take traits of a character and strengthen them.

@@quintinthomas928 Mmm, Mihoyo did confirm Honkai and Genshin are part of the same universe so maybe that option will eventually present itself, but I'm far from being convinced after the way they've treated the Genshin player base specifically this past year. Every adjustment or incentive they made for the players always felt like a backhanded compliment (weapon focus path), or a half-hearted apology (anniversary). The only exception being Zhongli, and even then that was primarily only due to the CN player base taking up arms about it. They really don't care about feedback from outside of CN.