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why i no longer believe timothy heller (melanie martinez soap speedpaint) 

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7/27/2018: the point isn't that heller and martinez stayed friends after the assault. the point is that heller LIED and said they stopped being friends in 2016. here's proof they were friends in 2017: • TIMOTHY HELLER EXPOSED... if she has nothing to hide, there's no reason to lie. please remember occam's razor, and that all of these points work together to create one picture. most of these things alone prove nothing, but when they're all viewed together like parts of a machine, it's enough to convince me that martinez is innocent.
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i'm not trying to make a heller diss video or something, but it's kind of hard for me not to get emotional when i have my personal experiences in the back of my head the whole time. i just want to say that i don't believe her, and that she contributes to rape culture by lying about rape. for some reason actual rape victims kind of push it under the rug, but lying about rape is actually a HUGE problem that happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME, and it hurts our credibility. it needs to be STOPPED AND PUNISHED. i hope this rape drama ends soon, because i'm kind of sick of it. and i'm also sick of kids thinking melanie martinez is a rapist and that sexual assault is okay, which is an inevitability of lying that heller should have fucking predicted.
on another note, guys, i know you're going to want to go home and take a shower, but please go to the hospital asap, get a rape kit, and report it to the police. not reporting it to the police is one of my biggest regrets in life--i chose not to for lots of reasons; since there was no penetration, (thank fucking god i was wearing boxer shorts since he was going in that angle), i wasn't sure if it was technically rape or abuse and it happened in a different state than the one i lived in, both having different laws and definitions of rape. (still not sure if it's considered rape or sexual assault, and most of the things i read on it had varying opinions on what counted as rape, and a ton of sites used them interchangeably; so if i used the word wrong, i'm sorry) and i worried that his college friends would beat the shit out of me and meanwhile he'd be charged with abuse and see like 3 months in jail or no time at all. in other words, it would be all for nothing. though in retrospect he might have been kicked out of the military, and some people would hesitate to get close to him. that wouldn't have been enough for me, but better than nothing. i could call him out on twitter with the hashtag #MeToo, but it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference. You need to report it as soon as you can; it'll bring you peace sooner, and it'll keep it from happening to someone else. and if the courts don't decide in your favor... i guess #MeToo would be your next stop. but i guess you'd have to talk to someone who went through that step.
never thought i'd be uploading something under the "news & politics" category...
ALSO:
i don't usually link to videos outside of my channel since it's dumb move if you want to keep viewer retention, but reagan wolf broke down timothy heller's body language in an interview, and it's worth a watch. • Body Language: Timothy... "Body Language: Timothy Heller on Melanie Martinez"
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Комментарии : 9 тыс.   
@camerongallup9083
@camerongallup9083 5 лет назад
It took me 20 minutes to understand that Timothy is a girl
@lucyaprilyui
@lucyaprilyui 4 года назад
I-
@ohnocelery9675
@ohnocelery9675 4 года назад
I-
@senior.1047
@senior.1047 4 года назад
I-
@coochiegirl3908
@coochiegirl3908 4 года назад
I-
@XxLavender_HeartsxX
@XxLavender_HeartsxX 4 года назад
I-
@sunnight1005
@sunnight1005 5 лет назад
Timothy: Melanie assaulted me Also Timothy: (dresses up as Melanie)
@myaaaxchavez
@myaaaxchavez 5 лет назад
fr
@daniellevin9575
@daniellevin9575 5 лет назад
Timothy:OMG MELANIE "ABUSED" ME! Melanie:Piggyback
@toxicrobin6988
@toxicrobin6988 5 лет назад
Surely logical! Nice job Timothy Heller, fucking stupid.
@kissedbythevoid
@kissedbythevoid 5 лет назад
Google toxic friendship
@shrimp3089
@shrimp3089 4 года назад
HearthCricket Cool
@Fatalstabs
@Fatalstabs 4 года назад
Timothy is also doing the same to Billie. Shes talking crap about her and lying about her for attention.
@sophieceleste4771
@sophieceleste4771 4 года назад
Really?! That is fucked up!
@gateway360
@gateway360 4 года назад
Nar*en Yeah, I think there is a picture of them somewhere online
@chrissymariee3
@chrissymariee3 4 года назад
What’s she saying about Billie?
@arismisery2395
@arismisery2395 4 года назад
@@chrissymariee3 pretty sure she was bashing her for hanging out with celebs who are older than her, and timothy was sexualizing her even though billie wears nothing but big baggy clithes lol, shes just trying to get as much clout as she can
@chrissymariee3
@chrissymariee3 4 года назад
Riley Brown wow! How sad.
@kellimichuda8362
@kellimichuda8362 4 года назад
"Sincerely, the weirdo who drew you coughing up soap bubbles." lmao, you got a new fan.
@nikolaia7893
@nikolaia7893 3 года назад
Another same. 😎
@angelahoward8436
@angelahoward8436 3 года назад
'Another one' 😎
@jaylajackson1170
@jaylajackson1170 3 года назад
@@mahiaahmedbornali469 no....she was talking about what the girl said in the video...
@mahiaahmedbornali469
@mahiaahmedbornali469 3 года назад
@@jaylajackson1170 ooOOOOooooOoooh
@mahiaahmedbornali469
@mahiaahmedbornali469 3 года назад
@@jaylajackson1170 thanks for telling
@irisalexander
@irisalexander 5 лет назад
*_"my psychic told me i shouldnt be friends with you because i need a grammy.."_* im crying skskskskks
@detectivedjwizard2129
@detectivedjwizard2129 5 лет назад
Lol Was the psychic wrong tho?
@andreja1176
@andreja1176 4 года назад
And I oop-
@lee-ym5yc
@lee-ym5yc 4 года назад
I mean-- *I would too-,*
@priawoulmun6919
@priawoulmun6919 4 года назад
cameron alexander How are you? It’s been 8 months since you’ve posted this.. just wanted to know what’s up and if anything exciting or not bad happened in ur life and if ur okay?
@nas3809
@nas3809 4 года назад
Pria Woulmun We stan a caring queen
@celesteludenburned9905
@celesteludenburned9905 5 лет назад
“I don’t expect a lot of views on this” *1M views*
@meganriley2521
@meganriley2521 5 лет назад
Certified Trash *expect*
@joegieegghead858
@joegieegghead858 5 лет назад
lol
@themilkman7986
@themilkman7986 5 лет назад
1.1!!!!!
@aestheticidiot3742
@aestheticidiot3742 4 года назад
Wooooooowwwwww
@deadlydreams4496
@deadlydreams4496 4 года назад
Make that 1.1 M views
@Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery
@Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery 4 года назад
Melanie had to disable comments on her videos from this situation it's so awful
@kylapaige1977
@kylapaige1977 4 года назад
Galaxy Howl I was wondering why I couldn’t comment on any of her songs from the crybaby album💔
@chungtienvan
@chungtienvan 4 года назад
Thanks for saying that, now I know :D
@yourmom-vw6kj
@yourmom-vw6kj 4 года назад
Only K-12 has comments
@id10cyy
@id10cyy 4 года назад
ikr 😭
@sectoid-with-internet-access
@sectoid-with-internet-access 4 года назад
I was wondering why are comments disabled. Thanks for pointing it out
@rubyuribe8140
@rubyuribe8140 4 года назад
Facts in 3, 2, 1... **Timothy wanted fame**
@megabot1771
@megabot1771 4 года назад
I thought you were gonna write an essay lol
@vampyyspyder6638
@vampyyspyder6638 4 года назад
PERIOD
@uh1175
@uh1175 4 года назад
Also a jackass
@ikea3487
@ikea3487 3 года назад
periodt
@spunky4313
@spunky4313 3 года назад
PeriodT
@weepdoll
@weepdoll 5 лет назад
Timothy: *[cries] she raped me...* _btw my new albums out._
@missmadness4162
@missmadness4162 5 лет назад
ᴇʟ Timothy: I can’t believe you still choose a possible rapist and like me! Also I need a name for all my new fans...
@lillaurynn
@lillaurynn 5 лет назад
Miss Madness victims lol or dry babies
@missmadness4162
@missmadness4162 5 лет назад
love is not a factor 😆😂
@jasminev5814
@jasminev5814 5 лет назад
honestly who would plug their album after they said they were raped 😪🤦🏽‍♀️
@mypetfruit9229
@mypetfruit9229 5 лет назад
omg
@slvsh77
@slvsh77 5 лет назад
I'm still upset about this situation. Melanie was just getting more successful, and planning to release a new album, but Timothy took all of that away with this accusation.
@Tatiana-uj4tq
@Tatiana-uj4tq 5 лет назад
kate she’s still releasing a new album that’ll be out by the end of summer. Yesterday she removed the link to her Cry Baby album and over 440 Cry Baby era pictures. That’s usually a sign from an artist that their new era is about to begin. She also hit 5.5 million followers on her Instagram. During the height of the accusation she was almost down to 4 million.
@slvsh77
@slvsh77 5 лет назад
@@Tatiana-uj4tq Yeah, ik, but it was supposed to be April 2018 or 2017 when it came out, not 2019.
@Tatiana-uj4tq
@Tatiana-uj4tq 5 лет назад
kate she released the trailer for it yesterday
@Tatiana-uj4tq
@Tatiana-uj4tq 5 лет назад
kate a teaser trailer. All her social media profile pics have been changed too. Her official website has been updated with a whole new look. It’s for real it’ll be out by the end of summer.
@angellovea4389
@angellovea4389 5 лет назад
Melanie will be fine. She has her career and enough money for the rest of her life. She still has friends, family and somehow her music career is still going. She is one of the luckiest people in the world when you compare her to the majority of the world which is in poverty and have no education. What did you gain from writing this?
@phirerising
@phirerising 4 года назад
I can't stand people who lie about being raped. Especially not as someone who's had to go through sexual assault multiple times... I hope you're okay!!
@zuriv730
@zuriv730 3 года назад
Hey, i just want to say, Thank you for staying strong... what you would've had to go through would've been awful!! sending love 🥺❤️
@retana0612
@retana0612 3 года назад
Yeah same with me!
@ilovemycatspaws2234
@ilovemycatspaws2234 2 года назад
As someone who also had to go Through that.. it’s truly disturbing
@kimpedersen5708
@kimpedersen5708 2 года назад
but Timothy didn't lie.
@rekzahar2437
@rekzahar2437 2 года назад
@@kimpedersen5708 Didn't she admit to lying..?
@jay6enx
@jay6enx 4 года назад
Piper: "Yo ex fans, instead of burning expensive merch, just send it to my P.O. box" Me: RIGHT!!!
@ollie2111
@ollie2111 4 года назад
Lol same. When I thought Melanie did it (tbh I support her but I still get doubts sometimes) I put away my merch in the back of the closet and decided if there is proof she did it I will give away my merch to someone who wants it, not waste it by burning it. Burning clothes is such a waste and harmful to the environment, just give them away if you hate her omg. I'm glad I kept them tho cause now I wore the shirt to the k-12 screening. Ngl I didn't like the movie but I love the songs. I guess now I'm back looking this up cause occasionally I get worried like "what if I was wrong and she's a rapist" but idk I guess we will never know the 100% truth and I'll just have to feel guilty for not knowing for sure & deciding to support her.
@IcelandicIslander
@IcelandicIslander 4 года назад
So you’d like to support an abuser?
@chocolaterolls
@chocolaterolls 4 года назад
sir Alfred who’s an abuser?
@IcelandicIslander
@IcelandicIslander 4 года назад
O_o Melanie
@vampyyspyder6638
@vampyyspyder6638 4 года назад
@@IcelandicIslander ...
@kylenoisegriffin
@kylenoisegriffin 5 лет назад
The fact that Timothy *deleted* the insta pic of her dressing like Melanie, as if she were trying to hide evidence of her staying friends with Melanie. If she were innocent, would she need to delete the pic?
@uhm_5414
@uhm_5414 5 лет назад
Aaron Aiken Exactly. Also, she must be really dumb if she doesn’t think the police can get those pics back up there or other people can screen shot them.
@kylenoisegriffin
@kylenoisegriffin 5 лет назад
Black Manta And people have screen shoted them already lmao
@uhm_5414
@uhm_5414 5 лет назад
Aaron Aiken I know lmao.
@MangaPen
@MangaPen 4 года назад
Granted, I don't believe Timothy either, but we should consider the fact that her relationship with Martinez was deeply soured after this occurrence. It's like deleting pictures of your ex, I suppose?
@yungpussygod3854
@yungpussygod3854 4 года назад
I mean I dont know but it seems like getting r*ped is pretty traumatic, but she is probably taking that pic down because she doesnt like that photo?
@adailylifeofaweirdo3516
@adailylifeofaweirdo3516 5 лет назад
Timothy should have gone to the police if she was rapped instead of going to Twitter.
@ihavebeenpwned9348
@ihavebeenpwned9348 5 лет назад
A daily life of a weirdo If she would go to the police, there would not be anything. Report to the police a rape which happened years ago is mostly useless. So you think that the hashtag #metoo is useless bc people should have gone to the police instead ? The police often don't make the justice. Especially for rape. Sorry for my english it's not my first language.
@fartboxingkittens
@fartboxingkittens 5 лет назад
Exactly my point
@natsuki4021
@natsuki4021 5 лет назад
To be fair, its not that easy. The police are usually not very helpful in most rape cases. Especially if it was years to go. And like piper said, its upsetting for a victim to talk, even think about. (Not defending timothy just trying to say how it feels)
@poppyparanormal2189
@poppyparanormal2189 5 лет назад
Natsuki First part of you comment doesn’t make sense to me. Why is it easy for her to go to social media but not easy for her to go to the police? Even if the police couldn’t help she would still have a case and have it reported for future incidents that may occur because of this whole incident. I’m not sure telling social media is going to help more than telling the authorities. Even if she didn’t get the justice she deserves that shouldn’t stop her from trying even if it takes her whole life and her effort could be helping other potential survivors.
@yikesbitch6223
@yikesbitch6223 5 лет назад
ℛ𝒶𝓅𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓋𝓈 𝓇𝒶𝓅𝓅𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓈𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹𝓃'𝓉 𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓃 𝒷𝑒 𝒶 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑔
@entr3_nou5
@entr3_nou5 4 года назад
The fact that Melanie was ON TOUR while the supposed “rape” happened should have told people all they needed to know. The fact that people believed Timothy after that is awful.
@kodathy9386
@kodathy9386 3 года назад
Tim said that she got the dates wrong multiple times because it was too traumatic to remember, yet she remembered every detail of the rape, including exact sentences
@jest5781
@jest5781 3 года назад
many assault victims don't remember the exact date of the incident. especially when they've tried to repress it. whether timothy lied or not, invalidating the incident based on that is kind a shitty to say...
@xtonibx5770
@xtonibx5770 3 года назад
@Gi giag As a victim I literally can't tell you the day it happened but I remember every other detail. I'm not saying Timothy is telling the truth but invalidating someone's traumatic experience because they don't remember the date it happened is awful.
@gabrielsoares2777
@gabrielsoares2777 3 года назад
@@xtonibx5770 I'm sorry for what you've experienced, really am. But I do understand what this person is trying to say, Timothy didn't just forget the date, she pointed one as the day it happened and then provided "prove" to ensure to all that it happened that specific day. But when pointed out that it wouldn't make any sense with Melanie's time line, she then proceeded to tell her traumatic experience made her mess up the date, but just before she was pretty sure of it, giving "proofs" and everything.
@xtonibx5770
@xtonibx5770 3 года назад
@@gabrielsoares2777 I don't know much about this situation or all the holes in Timothy's story yet (I'm trying to learn more about this so I can decide if I feel comfortable listening to Melanie's music). I'm not trying to support Timothy or say that the holes in her story aren't real, but this person said that the fact that she forgot the date invalidated her story enough, and that itself isn't true, and it's kind of offensive. I do understand what you mean, though. (when you explained that she didn't *just* forget the date).
@SN-mb6kv
@SN-mb6kv 4 года назад
2 years later, TIMOTHY IS STILL BEOCHING ON FRIKIN TOCTOCK
@calamamder7077
@calamamder7077 4 года назад
little Bella yep
@cynthiadavidson1059
@cynthiadavidson1059 4 года назад
Time for Timothy to grow up
@kiut96tkm
@kiut96tkm 4 года назад
She should just get over it, her music is not good and even Melanie haters don't know her name. It's both funny and sad to see that her song Sleep got 800k streams, See Ya! 100k, all because people felt sorry for her, but her recent songs can't even get past 10k streams... meanwhile more people is starting to find out the true and Melanie is getting more love and support.
@alssy468
@alssy468 3 года назад
She even posted on Instagram a whole text about the rape thing, there's a rumour that the people who were going to make the Play Date remix saw it and cancelled the remix
@kodathy9386
@kodathy9386 3 года назад
she talks about how people wont let it go, but she is the only one who wont stop talking about it. no one could have been publicly harassing her about the incident because she has her comments on everything turned off most of the time, and most of her dms are positive and people encouraging her to tell the truth.
@bridgetmcalister7907
@bridgetmcalister7907 5 лет назад
okay that thumbnail killed me. '' Oh no, An Opinion! D; ''
@fgvbgsx
@fgvbgsx 4 года назад
Thats why I clicked lmao
@charlottemcneela1900
@charlottemcneela1900 4 года назад
@@fgvbgsx same 😂
@trin.5104
@trin.5104 4 года назад
bridget mcalister NO YOU MAY ONLY BELIVE BC I AM ALWAYS RIGHT
@justipooh6866
@justipooh6866 4 года назад
@Otakool666 Fujoshi, Its just hard saying it, those people are ignorant people that feel like when they realize that you're right, they still wanna convince you they're right.
@tardedaf
@tardedaf 4 года назад
I blame stoicism... ugh.
@donnaber4987
@donnaber4987 5 лет назад
“oh no, an opinion” *welcome to the internet~* edit: what happened omg im famous now
@kittycat418gaming4
@kittycat418gaming4 5 лет назад
gallon o’ bleach yes and any one who says otherwise is dangerous and god forbid open minded
@kittycat418gaming4
@kittycat418gaming4 5 лет назад
gallon o’ bleach or even worse .......... a mindful person who wants to seek out all sides of the story and try to understand and find the truth that may contradict someone’s opinion
@michellevelasco8882
@michellevelasco8882 5 лет назад
LOOL I'm legit listening to Panic Room Au/Ra and when I started reading your comment while reading welcome to the internet the song said welcome to the panic room LMFAO
@weirdoontheinternet
@weirdoontheinternet 5 лет назад
gallon o’ bleach I said that to half my whole family
@meghanzimmerman9327
@meghanzimmerman9327 4 года назад
*_“thE pHySiC sAid wE cOuLdN’t bE fRiEnDs aNymoRe”_*
@pocketfulloposeys7525
@pocketfulloposeys7525 3 года назад
The physic??? 😂😂😂
@acidicnebula3.011
@acidicnebula3.011 3 года назад
Psychic. Is that you mean
@g59Maddi
@g59Maddi 4 года назад
Fans in 2018: *burning her merch* Fans in 2019: stan Melanie Martinez! Stream K-12!
@harryhess7359
@harryhess7359 4 года назад
I never believed it, I didn't have any merch anyway because I was/am poor. I know a lie when I see one because I lie so much to get out of trouble
@oshaynacampbell9133
@oshaynacampbell9133 4 года назад
@@harryhess7359I do to but never ruin a person
@itsallforpele
@itsallforpele 4 года назад
Actually, *2017
@rhiannonlynn7991
@rhiannonlynn7991 4 года назад
Harry Hess Same
@tomoriinterlude
@tomoriinterlude 4 года назад
@@shiunyann mood
@df-px3ij
@df-px3ij 5 лет назад
And Timothy still talks about this drama in March 2019...
@kevinhumawid7731
@kevinhumawid7731 5 лет назад
ѕтαяяdυѕт fσχ sure?? HAHAHAHHA she so desperate for the blings
@val77701
@val77701 5 лет назад
If I was raped I wouldn’t stop talking about it until the rapist is behind bars. Its not drama, its violence.
@weirdo2521
@weirdo2521 5 лет назад
Duttkopf but Timothy wasn’t raped by anyone so...(?)
@julianvsrc
@julianvsrc 5 лет назад
@@val77701 bullshit. if you were raped the last thing you would want to do is talk about it. that shit fucks you up mentally and the fact that she won't shut up about it is evidence enough
@laleczkowa
@laleczkowa 4 года назад
@@julianvsrc Exactly. And I speak from experience 😓
@aaliyahetc.6687
@aaliyahetc.6687 5 лет назад
Timothy just wants fame and it's painfully obvious now.
@user-rd9tc7gd1b
@user-rd9tc7gd1b 5 лет назад
Yeah and now she's coming for Billie Eilish 🙄🙄🙄 omfg
@PGOuma
@PGOuma 5 лет назад
Rica GS can't believe that ish 🤦🏻
@d9minique
@d9minique 5 лет назад
Khylee Gandy because she's "oversexualized" and "hangs out too much with grown men"
@d9minique
@d9minique 5 лет назад
Khylee Gandy Yeah, I agree. That's just what Tim said. Billie replied to what everybody thinks was Timothy, saying that she's not sexualized at all and that she has never even taken a provocative picture.
@claudiagonzales3865
@claudiagonzales3865 5 лет назад
Rica GS What's happening with Billie?
@callmeobsequious
@callmeobsequious 3 года назад
Just so y'all know, not everyone with BPD is like Heller. I hope no one is lumping us all into a category of melodramatic liars because of her. Seeing stuff like this always makes me anxious because I feel like people will get the wrong idea from seeing shitty people with BPD.
@misaoayakarox
@misaoayakarox 8 месяцев назад
The fact that I also have bpd, made me feel like Timothy was lying because I know that the disorder makes us capable of this. We aren’t all like this obviously
@larasims2973
@larasims2973 4 года назад
Melanie: * innocently posts something not related to this * Timothy: ReMeMbEr WhEn I gOt RaPeD
@RitsuSakuma69
@RitsuSakuma69 4 года назад
You copied this
@danjun7986
@danjun7986 2 года назад
It's so fucked up that Melanie stans still make fun of raping like this
@Qwerty-lq2op
@Qwerty-lq2op 2 года назад
@@danjun7986 she’s lying tho
@sffb8295
@sffb8295 2 года назад
@@danjun7986 Bruh, Timothy was lying.
@lils16783
@lils16783 2 года назад
@@danjun7986 I dodge your idiocy
@murdoxxed
@murdoxxed 5 лет назад
Dear all the people burning her merch: You're burning money just to make a(n invalid) point.
@katek8311
@katek8311 5 лет назад
edgy kid I really hope it was their own money and not their parents'
@STARYSI
@STARYSI 5 лет назад
edgy kid ikr Like give it to MEE or sell it lmao
@quetsie0
@quetsie0 5 лет назад
Melanie isn’t a good person regardless of if any of this is true or not
@foreverandalways4592
@foreverandalways4592 5 лет назад
Still paid money, still contributed to Melanie's music, people burning merch are just wasting Money, time, resources for making fires, and probably making a useless fire that could (depending on how it's dealt with) be a danger
@redacted000
@redacted000 5 лет назад
Yeah I sadly admit I was one of the few that did this (I just threw it away not burned) and I feel horrible now,,, such a fucking waste of money too,,,,
@alonsog.7740
@alonsog.7740 5 лет назад
"The psychic said we can't be friends anymore" *MY PARTY CITY WIG HAS BEEN DESTROYED*
@CoyotesCove222
@CoyotesCove222 5 лет назад
Alonso Gutierrez? This comment is my constant mood
@hillbilly127
@hillbilly127 5 лет назад
Mood
@btslostjams3779
@btslostjams3779 5 лет назад
Alonso Gutierrez? *EvErYdAy I'm WaLkInG dOwN tHe StReEt*
@idontknowwhattoput491
@idontknowwhattoput491 5 лет назад
Alonso Gutierrez? Mood.
@ChatMort69420
@ChatMort69420 4 года назад
The thing that made my decision for me was that Heller was whining nonstop on Twitter about not getting any likes or attention on her posts, then immediately posted the accusation. Obviously that's not enough evidence to make a concrete decision, but from the get-go, it looked like a scummy way to siphon off someone else's success and relevance.
@edennewby4137
@edennewby4137 4 года назад
I bet when Melanie drops k-12, Timothy is gonna say “remember 2 years ago?” And my sister says I’m bad because of this drama since I like her music. SMH
@calamamder7077
@calamamder7077 4 года назад
eden newby yeah my friend and I where listening to another artist and her mo asked if I’m we were listening to Mel and Oman’s my sister was like “oh yeah she did something bad to a friend” and I just wanted to stop right there and say “not to be rude but even if she didn’t something which she didn’t I still love her music and no one can change that bish”
@nia356
@nia356 4 года назад
Yeah I remember seeing a tiktok of hers a little bit after K-12
@Mexicantajin19
@Mexicantajin19 5 лет назад
Pacify her: shes lying with thos words Cake: I'm not a piece of cake Teddy bear: how did love become so violent Carousel: its all fun in games til somebody falls in love Piggyback:your lyin your way to try and gain a piece of me
@sosansational
@sosansational 5 лет назад
“everything was so sweet until you tried to kill me” also works for teddy bear
@lilMissMisan
@lilMissMisan 5 лет назад
sans as in killing her career?
@sosansational
@sosansational 5 лет назад
yep!
@alexaccount102
@alexaccount102 5 лет назад
Acefamily?
@OhNoItsExpiredMilk
@OhNoItsExpiredMilk 5 лет назад
#P.C.T.P sorry
@yukiandkanamekuran
@yukiandkanamekuran 5 лет назад
Melanie definitely deals with anxiety and has difficulties with strangers and crowds. So you're definitely right in saying that it's hard for her to assert herself.
@AMB-Productions
@AMB-Productions 5 лет назад
Profesional Fangirl I get hella scared (stops breathing near crowds) and if someone did that, I would be so confused and scared.
@raddk1tty677
@raddk1tty677 5 лет назад
When people crowd me it makes me feel pressured and I feel like I need to breathe more because it's getting harder.. Then I end up bursting into tears and usually cling onto my closest friend around me, my friend Lily is like my sister and I feel like she supports me the most in life.
@hikaruriko6504
@hikaruriko6504 5 лет назад
yukiandkanamekuran thank god I dont xD
@hikaruriko6504
@hikaruriko6504 5 лет назад
Profesional Fangirl same, except for the soxial anxiety part lmao
@yukiandkanamekuran
@yukiandkanamekuran 5 лет назад
Riko _Aoi but this is,,, about social anxiety rip (':
@arandombrony955
@arandombrony955 4 года назад
I love Melanie's songs. And when I first heard about this, I instantly hated her because I thought she did rape. But now, I know the truth. Thanks for enlightening me and your art is FABULOUS.
@itz_anonymous4300
@itz_anonymous4300 4 года назад
i know this is irrelevant but i love your profile picture cuz i'm pan and my friend is bi
@imprisoned.marionette
@imprisoned.marionette 4 года назад
I love ur pfp cuz I’m lesbian and my friend is bi
@arandombrony955
@arandombrony955 4 года назад
@@itz_anonymous4300 oh, nice! I'm just kinda torn between being Bi or Pans lol. Glad you liked it! :D
@arandombrony955
@arandombrony955 4 года назад
@@imprisoned.marionette oh, nice! I'm just kinda torn between being Bi or Pans lol. Glad you liked it! :D
@arandombrony955
@arandombrony955 4 года назад
@rocky night oke
@mimitrusters9259
@mimitrusters9259 3 года назад
Timothy Heller: Lol, I'll spread lies about you and take all your fans! 😜 Melanie Martinez with K-12: *U N O R E V E R S E*
@acidicnebula3.011
@acidicnebula3.011 3 года назад
LOL.. Timothy couldn’t stand a chance..she got proven she lied . Also she said it herself
@pennynoir7774
@pennynoir7774 5 лет назад
9:20 *_WE CAN’T BE FRIENDS ANYMORE BECAUSE I NEED THAT GRAMMY_*
@lee-tl8lt
@lee-tl8lt 5 лет назад
LMAOOOO
@cringequeen2743
@cringequeen2743 5 лет назад
Ashlee Nightingale lol
@jennalafond9819
@jennalafond9819 5 лет назад
Ashlee Nightingale No please
@lucydoyle9273
@lucydoyle9273 5 лет назад
Meeeee
@confusedgrungesassyrat2473
@confusedgrungesassyrat2473 5 лет назад
ME TO THOUGH😂😂😂😂
@sandruhray699
@sandruhray699 5 лет назад
I listened to the full video yet my mind kept going back to “oh my god how is she doing this. I can’t even draw a hand turkey”
@mica64209
@mica64209 5 лет назад
That profile explains it
@0l1v3r3v3r3tt
@0l1v3r3v3r3tt 5 лет назад
honeylavender ed
@8Reptar
@8Reptar 5 лет назад
I can't stop laughing because of this comment.
@imconfused3003
@imconfused3003 5 лет назад
Camy Camryn so it's a trace of your hand. And then you add features to make it look like a turkey.
@Rebreakings
@Rebreakings 5 лет назад
S a m e
@ninae3783
@ninae3783 3 года назад
Im also a sexual assult victim, and i cant even talk about the details, because of how disgusting it was and how uncomfortable it was.
@your_dad_on_vacation
@your_dad_on_vacation 3 года назад
I know, I was sexually assaulted as a child and I couldn't even write it (for court) without invisioning that night, and feeling everything like it was happening again. And when on that night i still remember that i didnt worry about myself, i worried if he did it to his own kids. And the next day he had the AUDACITY to tell me "Don't tell anyone, I don't want to lose my life" or kids dont remember
@12toro
@12toro 4 месяца назад
​@@Red_IllumineYou aren't everyone and it is disgusting to use your own experience to demean how others process trauma.
@anayaneclos3082
@anayaneclos3082 4 года назад
I think Timothy didn’t take this accusation to court bc she knows that she’ll have to pay for the entire investigation if it’s found to be false. Meaning that if the police, fbi, whomever is investigating her case finds that the case is made up she’ll have to pay for the money the police spent on the investigation. So she wouldn’t take it to court bc she knows she’s wrong.
@psychomaia
@psychomaia 3 года назад
Ummm even when it’s true you’ll most likely get called a liar and won’t see any conviction. I understand we all love Melanie but stop with the harmful messages that are being centred around sexual assault against women in most of these comments. Stop telling women to go to the police or go to court, the law is not in a sexual assaults victims favour, it sided with rapists.
@amantyde
@amantyde 3 года назад
@@psychomaia She wasn’t even raped, the people in the comments are just telling on how easy it was to realize it was all fake.
@kyaschafer7357
@kyaschafer7357 3 года назад
@@psychomaia Please stop talking as if Timothy was raped. She wasn't. And it's been proven time and time again.
@gabriellelister7669
@gabriellelister7669 Год назад
@@psychomaia legit tho. They told my dad they wouldn’t ruin his future because he “sweet talked”-ew- me. He died of an overdose this year. The police don’t gaf.
@psychomaia
@psychomaia Год назад
@@amantyde I understand that and I’m on Melanie’s side in this but people in the comments are using victim shaming tactics to prove timothy is a liar. There’s ways to discredit her by sticking with facts instead of trying to paint the image of what a victim should’ve said or done.
@jagg5404
@jagg5404 5 лет назад
Melanie said in her first statement that they only had a "Close friendship for a period of time." Whilst Timothy said they were, "Best friends." Lmao- I like the jab at Timothy
@muddigutz
@muddigutz 5 лет назад
tHe PsYcHiC sAiD wE cAnT bE fRiEnDs AnYmOrE *wHEEZE*
@nimrahpeeps876
@nimrahpeeps876 5 лет назад
toastiest popcorn psychic doesn’t tell anyone who and who not to be friends with hellers such a liar 😡😡
@nimrahpeeps876
@nimrahpeeps876 5 лет назад
hi owo I wasn’t saying it directly to her I was just ranting 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@brisawaight4667
@brisawaight4667 5 лет назад
@@rainyw1nd very.!!
@pikachuneoncat6480
@pikachuneoncat6480 4 года назад
I love how you closed with "Sincerely, the weirdo who drew you choking on soap bubbles." 😂😂😂😂
@papajunkookchan
@papajunkookchan 4 года назад
“I don’t expect a lot of views with this” me : look at the views “1 million views “
@mxplechii
@mxplechii 5 лет назад
Timothy: Stop trying to derail my argument with facts!
@kissedbythevoid
@kissedbythevoid 5 лет назад
What facts lol? There's barely any proof on either side.
@melitini
@melitini 5 лет назад
fan of the xx the fact the melanie was across the country at the time, or that tim dresses up as melanie after she claims she was raped
@kissedbythevoid
@kissedbythevoid 5 лет назад
@@melitini the date thing was cleared Timothy tried normalizing all of that lol idk why people expect her to remember the exact date of something she tried to normalize i-
@BratzRockAngels
@BratzRockAngels 5 лет назад
@@kissedbythevoid There's proof that she changed her story like 4 times. First she said that she couldn't say no to Mel, then she said that she told Mel no multiple times, then she said that Mel forced her to smoke weed and that she didn't like to smoke weed, even though there were multiple photos of her smoking weed recently before the situation. Then she said that she was not into anything sexual, but then she was on a sexual website and she recommended the sexual game that she and Mel played, and she's currently posting sexual picture on her media. She changes her story like tons of times. Now that I think about it, there's way more evidence proving that Timothy lied, and there's like no evidence that Melanie did it. 💜
@kissedbythevoid
@kissedbythevoid 5 лет назад
@@BratzRockAngels there's no legit evidence that melanie DIDN'T Do it either
@mackdogg2722
@mackdogg2722 5 лет назад
Personally, i think they had sex (and it was consentual) but timothy's boyfriend found out, and Timothy panicked and said it was rape.
@chickennuggetz5632
@chickennuggetz5632 5 лет назад
How come I believe that actually is what happened?
@swaymj6792
@swaymj6792 5 лет назад
Alicat xox because it is
@creedbro257
@creedbro257 5 лет назад
Jesus.. that actually makes a ton of sense. I never thought about that until now.
@loonatic7898
@loonatic7898 5 лет назад
Prasinophobia GENIOUS
@rottendahlia
@rottendahlia 5 лет назад
Y ES ME TOO OMF
@02melissa50
@02melissa50 4 года назад
It's quite a reach to say someone with borderline personality disorder is going to lie about a rape just because they have mental health issues. Its important to be objective here and look at all options. Regardless of if the accusation is true. For example it's entirely possible that fear of abandonment could contribute to being pressured into sex with your best friend because you dont want to lose them. Having bpd doesn't automatically make you a liar or make you twist things although there might people with bpd who do that. It is quite insensitive how you handled that piece of information.
@Skwidooful
@Skwidooful 3 года назад
I have BPD and if you go untreated or you don't respond to treatment, it is very likely to act out of rage, act impulsively, and lie for attention, especially if the BPD is severe enough. I have done some very crappy things to ex-friends and ex-partners before I had a very intensive course of DBT, and in those moments I felt powerful and like I had control, and I'm sure that in her mind this is what she has to do to get "revenge." I have the illness, I have these thoughts and desires but through treatment I know how to control myself. I don't think how she talked about BPD was disrespectful at all. She could be a terrible person AND have BPD which has contributed to this scenario. It's very well known for people with BPD to lie to get their way. If she felt abandoned or felt that the friendship was beneficial to her fame, AND she was in a bad place, the potential to act out of emotion and anger is astronomical.
@ynicsi
@ynicsi 3 года назад
Thank you for writing this. I have borderline and people constantly hate me and I’m always the bad guy. I wish people would see that behind the anger I’m just crying and hurting so much, that I’m sure we all are. Thanks again
@BG-wz1iu
@BG-wz1iu 3 года назад
I have BPD and even without treatment I was able to deal with my emotions and with treatment now it’s even better. BPD doesn’t = evil and manipulative
@weeweeman420
@weeweeman420 3 года назад
Although I don't have bpd, the person ( not girl Im so sorry ) in the video was not insulting or trying to offend people with bpd, and Im not trying to be rude, I would just like to clear that up
@weeweeman420
@weeweeman420 3 года назад
@Kanako Yoarashi I apologize!
@fgvbgsx
@fgvbgsx 4 года назад
"Im kidding I don't have any money* *Same*
@goingtomars143
@goingtomars143 5 лет назад
this honestly breaks my heart because my boyfriends previous girlfriend lied about him sexually assualting her there were two witnesses that said it didnt happen and she even admitted he didnt do it to her friend and now he isnt aloud to see his bestfriend and the closet person to him and his mom doesnt want him in town. its heartbreaking just because shes a teenage girl they believe it.
@cynthiachapman9225
@cynthiachapman9225 5 лет назад
That's awful. I had a friend who claimed a bunch of teachers sexually assaulted her and she would pick guys out online and that had mutual friends then say that they assaulted her meanwhile none of them know her name or anything
@katreendenverk2090
@katreendenverk2090 5 лет назад
goingtomars That's horrible. Send my blessing, he doesn't deserve that and your amazing for supporting him. Xxxx
@nicolenewsome4863
@nicolenewsome4863 5 лет назад
Im sorry for both of you. It's absolutely heartbreaking. Many prayers to you and him and many blessings. You two stay firm be courageous and be strong.
@goingtomars143
@goingtomars143 5 лет назад
thank you so much:) he was found not guilty and i'm so grateful .
@krigillustrate
@krigillustrate 5 лет назад
@@goingtomars143 that's terrible, i'm so sorry; one thing i hate about people lying about things like this is that it detracts from the people who have truly suffered through such terrible situations. shame on her for lying about it; what a terrible person.
@dex9428
@dex9428 4 года назад
No joke, when the whole drama was happening I stuck with Melanie.I always saw those hate videos and I felt so bad , I feel so bad for Melanie
@ennsfy
@ennsfy 4 года назад
Same
@Nayelisfatt
@Nayelisfatt 2 года назад
SAME
@lils16783
@lils16783 2 года назад
same. even my idiot teacher believed those rumors and called the melanie videos ugly and weird. she also referred to melanie as the weirdo.
@superzooperhaze6597
@superzooperhaze6597 9 месяцев назад
funny, i feel so bad for the rape victim!
@kittykingdoms
@kittykingdoms 5 месяцев назад
So did I. And I’ve been graped
@spoiledbra.t3304
@spoiledbra.t3304 4 года назад
Timothy is just jealous of Melanie’s fame ,So she makes a fake story. Why would u go to social media about it instead to police ?
@No-bc9rf
@No-bc9rf 4 года назад
Spoiledbra.t police don’t do anything for a rape that happened years ago
@eddieslyfox1831
@eddieslyfox1831 4 года назад
@@No-bc9rf you sure about that? yes they do I'm going to my court in a few weeks for sexual abuse that happened to me a few years ago
@11aaa33
@11aaa33 4 года назад
전 정국 and what’s the internet gonna do??
@annieromero145
@annieromero145 4 года назад
She knows she doesn’t have evidence and Melanie has a solid alibi. That’s why.
@alssy468
@alssy468 4 года назад
@@No-bc9rf True. If police doesn't helps you, Twitter will super help you!!!
@CrazedSmiles
@CrazedSmiles 5 лет назад
Ngl I fully stopped believing Heller when she tried to diss Billie, like it felt overly obvious like trying to draw in more attention
@editsandstuff6431
@editsandstuff6431 5 лет назад
She did? What did she do??
@CrazedSmiles
@CrazedSmiles 5 лет назад
@@editsandstuff6431 honestly it's way too long to explain, I'd advice you Google it
@editsandstuff6431
@editsandstuff6431 5 лет назад
@@CrazedSmiles ok lmao I know Billie probably handled it but thank you😂
@astridnannini
@astridnannini 4 года назад
@@editsandstuff6431 just incase u still don't know she accused her of wearing revealing clothing and being friends with rappers she shouldn't be even saying she shouldn't have missed xxxtentacion because she shouldn't have even known him
@infinitelyperfect.
@infinitelyperfect. 4 года назад
TheLunaticArtist Billie and Melanie now isn’t that perfect.
@ghostytrickster4673
@ghostytrickster4673 5 лет назад
Heller got jealous because Melanie was a singer and they weren't hanging out as much and Melanie had more attettion than Heller
@sourcherrii1604
@sourcherrii1604 4 года назад
Heller jealous.
@gachafall3186
@gachafall3186 4 года назад
Yup and I just noticed her Heller has Hell in it xD
@silverforgold
@silverforgold 4 года назад
As you watch this, just please remember over 90% of accusations about any crime (including rape) are true, which is why if anyone tells you they were raped, instead of asking “are you sure?” or “what were you wearing?”, be there for them and support them
@kissedbythevoid
@kissedbythevoid 3 года назад
This!
@kissedbythevoid
@kissedbythevoid 3 года назад
@mels wheels lol you have no legitimate evidence to back this claim up
@bruhmoment3937
@bruhmoment3937 3 года назад
j yeah let’s just not mention all the holes in Timothy’s story
@bpopp714
@bpopp714 3 года назад
j did you not watch the whole vid or she made valid points on why Timothee was lying
@kissedbythevoid
@kissedbythevoid 3 года назад
@@bpopp714 all of it can be debunked by the fact that melanie herself confirmed that something happened meaning the only question is whether or not it was consensual or rape it's a fact you can't argue it but ik you mm stans will try 🖤☺
@tallglassofmilk7809
@tallglassofmilk7809 4 года назад
My mom has borderline personality disorder and she makes up and/or twists a bunch of things when it comes to me or my dad. It's actually impossible to reason with her even when shes acting fine and normal because the smallest thing will set her off. Shes convinced I dont love her or hate her whenever I dont tell her something and got extremely mad at me when I didnt tell her I was gay cause she thought I wanted to leave her for my dad and that I didnt trust her. In the end, I love her very much, but she does things to my mental health, but if I leave she'll do the same thing to my younger brother. I'm not 100% sure what actually happened, but it really does seem like timothy at least twisted the story if not make it all up. I dunno, its all pretty confusing...
@calamamder7077
@calamamder7077 4 года назад
Stan D-CRUNCH this reminds me of my dad he twists everything we say and you can’t stay 3 days with just him or the easiest things set her off
@your_dad_on_vacation
@your_dad_on_vacation 3 года назад
That reminds me a lot of my grandma, i love her to death but she twists mine and others words. Sometimes we laugh when it happens
@davidmcallister1205
@davidmcallister1205 Год назад
My mom was the same, and honestly this struck a chord with me.
@thanhl9794
@thanhl9794 5 лет назад
Is no one gonna talk about the art?? It's so good. And I agree, Timothy needs to be stopped. Good thing she has lost reliability in her statements and is losing followers.
@peachyjimin2741
@peachyjimin2741 5 лет назад
i like bts and i want to die i see another army on every video i click
@moiramargeret5047
@moiramargeret5047 5 лет назад
If its on the twitter it might just be them purging bots.
@Machii08
@Machii08 5 лет назад
i like bts and i want to die Every single video I watch I find a army on the comments 😂😂
@imconfused3003
@imconfused3003 5 лет назад
Ohmygosh bts has a big fan base. Of course you're gonna come across an army everywhere you go. So stop pointing it out. It's annoying
@hilakleiner764
@hilakleiner764 5 лет назад
I'm confused lmaoo for real
@deletedaccount6430
@deletedaccount6430 5 лет назад
The thing is, Melanie said that she tried weed once and hated it, so...??? Timothy is instantly in a pit there.
@shirororasuketo
@shirororasuketo 5 лет назад
What are you talking about? Melanie does smoke weed.
@deletedaccount6430
@deletedaccount6430 5 лет назад
@@shirororasuketo No, she smokes cigarettes. She said in ~2 interviews that she didn't like weed after trying it.
@hmk3671
@hmk3671 5 лет назад
gets upset**
@joy5976
@joy5976 5 лет назад
no,,,?? she smokes weed before concerts, she's said it calms her anxiety, once on 4/20 she posted a pic of a big ass blunt saying happy 4/20 lol, pretty sure in an interview she said to calm down she watches cartoons and smokes weed
@depressoespresso3931
@depressoespresso3931 5 лет назад
beep boop kimchi SHE SMOKES WEED BEFORE CONCERTS (also still on Mel’s side)
@tia2676
@tia2676 2 года назад
I hate when any (legal) situation involving BPD occurs. It makes us all look evil
@peppermint5227
@peppermint5227 Год назад
4 years later and people still believe it oh my fucking god
@theraccoonempire1737
@theraccoonempire1737 Год назад
4 years later and people still victim blaming, kind of pathetic
@appleheadslatte
@appleheadslatte 11 месяцев назад
What happened to believing victims
@peppermint5227
@peppermint5227 11 месяцев назад
@@appleheadslatte what happened to people believing they're not a victim
@theraccoonempire1737
@theraccoonempire1737 11 месяцев назад
@@peppermint5227 evidence happened
@chemicalmyu
@chemicalmyu 11 месяцев назад
​@@peppermint5227 uhm, pal! You always believe the victim first. And there are plenty of evidence proving that Melanie is a rapist 💀 like how her delusional fans edited the proof, how melanie confirmed she was with Timothy and plus she and her were intoxicated during it, how her co workers said she was manipulating them into having sex with them (ps. Coercion is rape) and MUCH more 💀
@foolioaleeta4207
@foolioaleeta4207 5 лет назад
I wanted to cry when she was getting teary about her rape and said she needed a break im so sorry that happened to you and I cant change it by being sorry :( but your a amazing person and I love your channel
@massasambola3298
@massasambola3298 5 лет назад
*timonthy* Who? :_:
@camilleberee6069
@camilleberee6069 5 лет назад
@@massasambola3298 no, the person who was talking in this vid
@lordfarquaad6654
@lordfarquaad6654 5 лет назад
Anti Social me too
@gameboyhotline3712
@gameboyhotline3712 5 лет назад
I think you are very brave for everything you said including your own personal experience, god bless you
@lee.nightcore7362
@lee.nightcore7362 5 лет назад
Thank god someone is able to speak their opinion without getting lynched by the public....
@diamercadoo3627
@diamercadoo3627 5 лет назад
Lee Sakamaki ikr
@woahitsjenn
@woahitsjenn 4 года назад
RU-vid recommended me this like a year later and honestly... I completely forgot about this whole thing
@duckityduckkk
@duckityduckkk 4 года назад
Y'all y'all stfu about the drama for a second that art is GOOD WTF
@chiakinanami965
@chiakinanami965 4 года назад
shut up junko
@duckityduckkk
@duckityduckkk 4 года назад
@@chiakinanami965 okay :')
@woahwoahwoah7530
@woahwoahwoah7530 4 года назад
Chiaki Nanami bruh
@emi-ne1kv
@emi-ne1kv 4 года назад
hi we have similar usernames :D that is all LMAO
@woahwoahwoah7530
@woahwoahwoah7530 4 года назад
x_ honey_ bee_ x lol you do xd
@randymarsh2083
@randymarsh2083 5 лет назад
I just saw you made this 2 weeks ago. I am so glad this is still going on, because I am thinking a truth will come out.
@PGOuma
@PGOuma 5 лет назад
Dude Hi 🐸🍵
@idekhaileyrush2506
@idekhaileyrush2506 5 лет назад
Dude Hi same
@amayuuh
@amayuuh 5 лет назад
Dude Hi doubt it unless any proof is uncovered
@emmaeek4462
@emmaeek4462 5 лет назад
Dude Hi Timothy did say that she was lying in a tweet, it was all over Melanie Martinez news, but that tweet by her was later deleted
@xthaliaxii
@xthaliaxii 5 лет назад
craisins 86 think of this if Timothy had the picture you can see when you took it ! So she'd know the exact date !
@thebxsketcxse
@thebxsketcxse 5 лет назад
Not to mention Timothy changed her story like 10 times. I wish I could forget what happened when I was sexually assaulted. I wish I could have to be like "Sorry I get mixed up sometimes. It's hard to remember". I know it's different for everyone but... Still.
@JohnSmith-bg2yu
@JohnSmith-bg2yu 5 лет назад
amnesia's actually a really common side effect of trauma. i didn't get it either, my memories of what happened are pretty high-def, but a lot of people who experience a traumatic event can end up with jumbled recollections that their brain has difficulty processing and thus gets kinda "stuck" on.
@milososa3215
@milososa3215 5 лет назад
I was sexually abused when I was 15, I’m 19 now and part of me suppressed part of it. I can not remember details like I used to. Sometimes they come, sometimes they go. It makes my anxiety hell cause sometimes out of nowhere I remember it all, sometimes i don’t remember part of it. But thing is, after 4 years, I was just brave enough to tell 3 ppl. I don’t go around gossiping about it or detailing it, cause it makes me feel guilty/nauseous.
@CM-cu7ve
@CM-cu7ve 5 лет назад
thebxsketcxse that’s the main reason why I’ve always believed Melanie.
@thatonekokichikinnie9476
@thatonekokichikinnie9476 5 лет назад
She has borderline
@OatsTheOcelot
@OatsTheOcelot 5 лет назад
thebxsketcxse yeah I understand maybe messing up a tiny bit but staying the dates, what happened and every single thing, yeah I stopped believing pretty quickly
@BeanieBabyXx
@BeanieBabyXx 3 года назад
They probably did have sex but there probably was consent. Timothy might've regretted it, saw how famous Melanie was, saw that as an opportunity and made the allegations to feel better about herself and gain popularity. It's bloody disgusting that human beings lie about others for their own personal gain.
@florxiianquit9183
@florxiianquit9183 3 года назад
I-
@emilyrose3490
@emilyrose3490 3 года назад
I agree bc Melanie did confirm it with the statement mentioned in this video “she never said no to anything we chose to do together”
@florxiianquit9183
@florxiianquit9183 3 года назад
WHAT 😭😭??
@BeanieBabyXx
@BeanieBabyXx 3 года назад
@@florxiianquit9183 everything okay?
@AllHalowatches
@AllHalowatches 2 года назад
Agreed
@vee6570
@vee6570 3 года назад
Watched your recent video in this situation, but I’m also a survivor of sexual assault. For a long time, I couldn’t eat my favorite for years ice cream because it’s name is the same as my assailant. I was by no means an alcoholic, but my mood is drastically heightened whenever I socially drink, around people I don’t know and alone without my boyfriend or friends around. And Heller really f*caked up by still coming off as a close friend when she claimed Martinez raped her. This really muddies up real sexual assault victims to come forward and give off the foul misconception of not believed when one speaks up.
@justkat9148
@justkat9148 Год назад
I know I’m a year late, but yeah I agree with you. Timothy was making mockery of real sexual assault survivors, because rape liars are the reason people don’t come forward, and the reason people don’t believe rape victims.
@devin6689
@devin6689 5 лет назад
I stuck with Melanie through this situation not because she is my idol and favorite singer but because I myself have been falsely accused and know how awful it feels. It's so triggering to me when I get shit from her haters calling me a "rape apologist" for supporting her meanwhile when I was accused I needed the support my friends and family gave me. The person who accused me was my best friends brother and he has since admitted to lying but his family still hates me and and treats me like a monster. It's important to support potential victims of assault but it's just as important to acknowledge that not everyone is truthful so you shouldn't attack and harass the accused person until they're found guilty in a court of law.
@esthercan3969
@esthercan3969 5 лет назад
Devin I'm so sorry that happened to you but I hope things turn for the better with your situation.
@beaventrice
@beaventrice 5 лет назад
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@iwakeupandboomimarat
@iwakeupandboomimarat 5 лет назад
i’m so sorry, both for those accusations and the crap from Melanie haters. tbh i left Timothy’s side a long time ago after she started mixing up the dates and making her story really confusing
@ishredchildreninboxfans754
@ishredchildreninboxfans754 5 лет назад
Why did he do that
@charlielittle482
@charlielittle482 5 лет назад
My cousin was falsely accused as well, and it makes me so mad to see other people crying rape when it didn't happen. He was kicked out of his home, and left homeless for a year until the person admitted they lied. It overshadows all the other rape victims that we're actually assaulted. There are victims that are ignored and don't get believed in because of the assholes who deceive others just to get attention
@coleen9278
@coleen9278 5 лет назад
When I heard the allegations against melanie, I wasn't on anyone's side bc I believed you're not guilty/innocent until proven. But ended up siding with melanie ofc bc timothy's story just didn't add up.
@thepoet9134
@thepoet9134 5 лет назад
coleen bean me too
@booseungkwansboo6442
@booseungkwansboo6442 5 лет назад
coleen bean exactly what I did
@nico-ir4cf
@nico-ir4cf 5 лет назад
coleen bean exactly. I heard from several people and sites that Timothy fessed up and said she lied
@midasified3217
@midasified3217 5 лет назад
coleen bean same but I’ve always sided with Martinez lol
@aceren1696
@aceren1696 5 лет назад
coleen bean same. Also I didnt even know Timothy at the time
@mahiaahmedbornali469
@mahiaahmedbornali469 3 года назад
That's why her name is *HELLer*
@yvonnev.t1828
@yvonnev.t1828 3 года назад
😅😅
@mahiaahmedbornali469
@mahiaahmedbornali469 3 года назад
@@yvonnev.t1828 😃😅
@kassandrakid9440
@kassandrakid9440 3 года назад
Wow! That’s witty!
@ellianafarrow
@ellianafarrow 2 года назад
“im not exactly a melanie fan” well that went down the drain
@cometthestar6575
@cometthestar6575 5 лет назад
I mean, I'd like to believe Melanie is innocent, because innocent until proven guilty. I've pretty much remained neutral. I listen to her music, and I still will. This hasn't really phased my love for her art.
@xxsimplychamorroxx2058
@xxsimplychamorroxx2058 5 лет назад
Denver Pettit, ik she's a shy person, I shy person is so innocent so that's I don't believe Timothy Heller.
@artemischii
@artemischii 5 лет назад
Same same
@elviradistress
@elviradistress 5 лет назад
nice pfp
@lone6718
@lone6718 5 лет назад
I do believe Melanie, primary because Timothy has admitted to having a mental illness that alters her perception of events that occur in her life. (And I have heard of other people tell stories when living with a similar or same illness and how completely off their recollections were.) Aside Mel’s Corner has done a good job filtering through much of the “evidence” provided, and I do believe they touch on the BPD issue.
@deanna7817
@deanna7817 5 лет назад
Im also neutral
@flamingfairy9
@flamingfairy9 5 лет назад
“i don’t really expect a lot of views on this” *gets more than half a million views on this*
@marioof8285
@marioof8285 5 лет назад
Datboi less than 200 to go.
@Alesyniana
@Alesyniana 3 года назад
I used to listen to Melanie Martinez back in 2018. Her music touched me, so when the accusations came out I was blank terrified. Removed her from my playlists and all, listened to other artists instead. I was in a busy state then, still busy now, and I didn't have the emotional capacity to dig deeper. I've been confused since as to why she's still around so I searched her up and found your video. I want to thank you for this. Maybe it's time for me to listen again.
@Skyler_Momoko
@Skyler_Momoko 3 года назад
Yeah that's how it worked out for me. I found out when I was curious as to why people were still supporting her if she had "admitted to it", then I found out she hadn't admitted to it. But idk I'm a fan of hers but I'm never sure if it's true or not.
@stephaniawarren5200
@stephaniawarren5200 4 года назад
me: I love all her songs accept for carousel You: I love all her songs accept for carousel also me: now we have something in common
@connoraugh1626
@connoraugh1626 4 года назад
Except**
@imprisoned.marionette
@imprisoned.marionette 4 года назад
I love the song carousel tho..
@chrisszy.1011
@chrisszy.1011 3 года назад
I love all her songs including carousel, orange juice, and soap ALL DE SONGS
@ilovekokoro2349
@ilovekokoro2349 3 года назад
Accept? Except**
@marishort6871
@marishort6871 3 года назад
Carousel's not my favorite song, but it's up there. It's perfectly fine if you don't like it. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion
@ava2529
@ava2529 5 лет назад
timothy just wanted fame. she didn't care about friendship. she was just like "ok, so, maybe I can put my friend's fame in the dumpster and once it's withered i can take it and make it my own." it's so stupid. melanie is talented and i *know* timothy is lying.
@omgemojiis2603
@omgemojiis2603 4 года назад
Melanie even made Piggyback to show that Heather is a fake friend and a liar
@pathetic2399
@pathetic2399 4 года назад
It blew up in her face later. By ruining Melanie’s reputation ], she ruined her own if she even had one to begin with and now she’s always going to be known as the girl that accused Melanie Martinez of rape.
@michfreedom2588
@michfreedom2588 4 года назад
Pathetic Actually she’ll be the girl that falsely accused Melanie Martinez of rape.
@dawnbrown6330
@dawnbrown6330 4 года назад
I feel like this entire was revenge for her dropping her as a friend OR she wired in her brain that Melanie raped her because of Melanie dropped her as a friend. It’s in her statement that “she dropped me as a friend after that” or “she would get upset when I would vent because it ruined her day” Timothy has BPD and could’ve have overthought the situation and believed it was rape. Remember the statement had been dropped right after Melanie and Timothy stopped being friends
@self-love2355
@self-love2355 4 года назад
dawn brown I agree. Timothy was mad and jealous that when Melanie got famous she stopped hanging out with her so she spread lies about her to get back at her for dropping her as a friend. It’s so stupid honestly, like Timothy has wasted so much time with this bullshit.
@boo3070
@boo3070 5 лет назад
I never really believed Timothy. At first I kinda went ‘oh shit’ but I actually looked into it because I like Martinez and I do not condone rape or molestation but I don’t condone false accusations either. I feel like some don’t realize the actual damage someone can do by false accusations. I had a friend who one of her best friends was accused of rape and everyone had turned their backs on him and nobody believed him and he had taken his life within months. My poor friend was devastated and the girl continued on saying she was mourning him. Rape is not ok in any way, shape or form but neither is false accusations just because you want attention.
@MarMoif
@MarMoif Год назад
I appreciate you trying to approach this topic from an unbiased point of view, but I feel you have way too much confidence in your knowledge of psychology, which proves to be limited based on your statements. It seems like you’re basing your ideas and assumptions off of personal experience instead. Which is totally fine! It’s your video and your commentary, but I got the impression you wanted to make your point of view seem objective, which it most definitely isn’t. Again, I’m not trying to criticize you, just warning you about the weight your opinion might acquire when you restate multiple times how you have some sort of qualification. That being said, I do agree that there are many incongruences in Heller’s story, and I appreciate you mentioning Occam’s razor because I didn’t know about it and you taught me something today. Also, I should compliment your art which is very pleasant on the eye.
@reese456
@reese456 4 года назад
Two things I can say about this video 1. Everything she said, I agree 2. I want to draw like that
@Joyful.aesthetic
@Joyful.aesthetic 5 месяцев назад
Y
@erikadicesare1011
@erikadicesare1011 5 лет назад
I have a friend in grade 7 who lied about a teacher touching her sexually and due to this she got suspended :)
@radioactive_baby0706
@radioactive_baby0706 5 лет назад
@Kasey Lock Honestly
@anac9428
@anac9428 5 лет назад
I mean that's really not your business to be saying online but that's just my opinion
@heccinifel833
@heccinifel833 5 лет назад
@@anac9428 I mean, they didn't give out names and I doubt people are going to track this suspended girl down
@anac9428
@anac9428 5 лет назад
@@heccinifel833 true
@jennaedits6620
@jennaedits6620 5 лет назад
shoot me that was probably horrible having to look the teacher in the eye when she got back
@jenny-qm9sz
@jenny-qm9sz 5 лет назад
Coming from a Melanie Martinez fan of two and a half years, I initially was neutral and posted evidence for both sides on my fan account (melsmelatonin). After digging deeper and finding out about Timothy dropping previous close friends, about her BPD and how her story changed multiple times, I just couldn't believe her anymore. People who hear about the situation just automatically believe the accuser without bothering to dig into it themselves and making a valid opinion. Timothy is also coming for other artists now, making me believe she generally just wants attention as everything with Mel has died down to an extent. There is so much more to the story that people don't analyse and I'm sick of it.
@princessofstars666
@princessofstars666 5 лет назад
also am i the only one that doesn't believe timothy's friend that came out either? seems to me like she just did that to help timothy's case but ya know
@apll1736
@apll1736 5 лет назад
@@bloodredrose1266 She can't help herself. She's doing this on impulse because of her disorder.
@angellovea4389
@angellovea4389 5 лет назад
Hypocritical YT oh wow, so cute!! Everyone cares about Melanie’s mental health and her “anxiety!1!1” but invalidate someone with a debilitating disorder. You have no idea what’s it like for people with BPD, this comment is so disgusting. And you wrote it for what? To defend a 24 year old woman who dresses like a child and sings in a squeaky indie voice.
@apll1736
@apll1736 5 лет назад
@@hypocriticalyt4094 Your username matches you perfectly, a hypocrite. Timothy cannot "fuck her disorder" instead she has to suffer through it. Stop making Melanie the main victim because in reality, Timothy is a victim of her own mental disorder that was triggered by Melanie in SOME sort way.
@yoitsme5640
@yoitsme5640 5 лет назад
@@angellovea4389 I agree about the thing about bpd. However Melanie's character is not really how she acts. And her singing voice isn't squeaky, and how would she change her voice.
@iibrookiie
@iibrookiie 3 года назад
When this was made 2 years ago: .-.
@user-iz3oq1ll5h
@user-iz3oq1ll5h 3 года назад
at the end of the day, I believe Melanie did not rape timothy. But I think we still ALWAYS need to believe the victim, whether the oppressor is a woman or someone we stan. I do not believe timothy any longer, but when we first hear about a situation like this, we need to take a step back and put aside our personal love or hatred for someone and believe the victim. if evidence comes out the alleged oppressor did not do those actions, then they didn't. But at the end of the day, I'd take the chance of believing the victim bc the rate for false accusations of rape is 2-10% of all rape/sexual assault reports (and that's the people who did report, and also the victims who didn't go through with the trial because it was too hard or not financially stable are usually put under the false accusation %, so). though today I do love Melanie and I have since her first album, so yeah. this is coming from a stan.
@alannahdelrey
@alannahdelrey 3 года назад
i wholeheartedly agree. comments like “i never believed timothy” or “melanie wouldn’t do that” are very weird
@ravynwithers6866
@ravynwithers6866 5 лет назад
In one of Hellers RU-vid videos she actually said that she would release the music video for her single once she got more publicity. Then the whole rape accusations came about. Coincidence??
@eden3815
@eden3815 5 лет назад
Ravyn Withers NOPE not a coincidence the hellers story doesn’t add up AT ALL
@gabm5967
@gabm5967 5 лет назад
I hope this is true, do you have a source?
@MellyFoxy
@MellyFoxy 5 лет назад
if that was true (that i really belive it was) it’s such a dick move man, she’s appealing for P I T Y and for me that’s the shittiest thing someone could do, people are not listening to her music because is GOOD but bc they feel sorry for her and that’s just so not right ;n;
@ravynwithers6866
@ravynwithers6866 5 лет назад
Gab Morton she said it in one of her own videos on her RU-vid channel. I’m not sure which video.
@amandawright5163
@amandawright5163 5 лет назад
i think not
@vapxrangel_
@vapxrangel_ 5 лет назад
5 minutes in the video and all i wanna do is to protect you
@emmarisby
@emmarisby 5 лет назад
I know. 3: She sounded so upset. I don't know anything about her but I felt so sad hearing her choke on her words like that, poor thing. >♡< Xx
@mikkat8613
@mikkat8613 4 года назад
Voice? *Great* Attitude? *Amazing* Bluntness? *Hilarious* Art? *Fye* Me? *Subscribed* Hotel? *trivago*
@briandegnan815
@briandegnan815 3 года назад
Same lol!!
@twices9380
@twices9380 4 года назад
Right now at this point Melanie could've been up there with Billie, ari, ect but because this whole situation went down with Timothy lying she lost that bc of some lying snake if Timothy was really inoccent she would show proof, but did she? No!
@twices9380
@twices9380 4 года назад
Luna Lovegood yes I do know that and I know since we still don’t know who really is lying we shouldn’t pick sides because for all we know they could both be lying or telling the truth but I just have a feeling Timothy really is lying
@beeduo9698
@beeduo9698 4 года назад
Hey um so I always hated billie eillish for some reason (that has nothing to do with what I’m saying but still) when I realised Timothy aka 🐍 said stuff about billie I got so mad and now I support billie because I was stupid to hate her for no reason but I now hate Timothy because why would someone just do something like that and plz don’t get mad at me for this
@twices9380
@twices9380 4 года назад
Swaggy ass alien I’m not mad and tbh when I heard this situation and how she got mad a Billie at the time Billie was a minor and Timothy was 20 something so that was really imature of Timothy and I love Mel and Billie all the way
@beeduo9698
@beeduo9698 4 года назад
?ħάȡάşşάħ¿ honestly I don’t know what Tim’s trying to pull everyone knows she’s lying and the funny thing is when Mel and billie got hype she suddenly decided to bring it up again
@twices9380
@twices9380 4 года назад
Swaggy ass alien but now she is to scared because fans are loyal now tbh I haven't even heard about Timothy since that situation happened
@Chesire0
@Chesire0 5 лет назад
Timothy: **very detailed story about Melanie raping her** Melanie: she never said no- Timothy fans: *SHE ADMITTED PUT HER IN JAILL* Melanie: ...to what we chose to do together Edit: wow two likes and neither one was from me **confetti** Edit 2: uhm wow six likes ummmm.... Edit 3: wow8likesomgthanks Edit 4: *why are you guys liking this? Who paid you???* Edit 5: hshbwbhahqbagg THANK YOU GUYS
@Chesire0
@Chesire0 5 лет назад
@Kaylee Mae NOW ITS AT 186
@Chesire0
@Chesire0 5 лет назад
@Kaylee Mae *help*
@Chesire0
@Chesire0 5 лет назад
Kaylee Mae *i haven’t gotten this many likes since one comment on I put on Cristali’s channel so I’m bad at taking attention*
@Chesire0
@Chesire0 5 лет назад
@Kaylee Mae **scream** *ITS AT 205*
@Chesire0
@Chesire0 5 лет назад
@Kaylee Mae **dies**
@nikolifegacha
@nikolifegacha 5 лет назад
As a young artist, I can say that this is beautiful. The shading is perfect. The lighting looks amazing. I love how "SOAP" actually looks like it's carved in. The bubbles are gorgeous. You deserve more love.
@tamtam1019
@tamtam1019 5 лет назад
NIKOOOOOOOOO
@nikolifegacha
@nikolifegacha 5 лет назад
@@tamtam1019 OH HEY
@nikolifegacha
@nikolifegacha 4 года назад
@iced tea I know? I mean drawing. I don't post art stuff on my channel because it isn't an art channel.
@spongebobsquarepants9622
@spongebobsquarepants9622 4 года назад
iced tea it does not count as animation either tbh don’t come for my ass
@mamlvr
@mamlvr 4 года назад
nico nico NI
@lilithdea144
@lilithdea144 4 года назад
"Sincerely, the weirdo who drew you choking on soap bubbles." This is a serious video but I laughed so hard at that XD
@kal_cite
@kal_cite 4 года назад
"Sincerely, the weirdo who drew you coughing up soap bubbles"
@KadaArt
@KadaArt 5 лет назад
Tbh I was never really a Melanie fan. Like I knew some songs but I didn't really care much about her and I didn't really go searching for them or anything and I mean that in the least shitty way possible. But it really pissed me off that people really believed Timothy without even trying to find out the story themselves. It's like they felt like just because rape was what she was accusing her of there was no way she could possibly be lying even though the evidence is right there. Idiotic "fans" threw out their merch and ultimately wasted their money which really irked me. I still am not really a fan of her but I will sure as hell defend her in this. It isn't fair to Melanie and it isn't fair to those who have actually been raped.
@alli-j1311
@alli-j1311 5 лет назад
Kada Art preach sister or brother ☺☺☺
@ellibeth7146
@ellibeth7146 5 лет назад
Kada Art you are so mature oml
@edenstrausbaugh5594
@edenstrausbaugh5594 5 лет назад
You took the words out of my mouth
@alainer0611
@alainer0611 5 лет назад
I was so pissed when I saw people throwing away and burning their Melanie merch. I would've done anything to get thatt merch for myself- and I know others would to! They didn't even want to hear her side of the story!
@jashaaa4593
@jashaaa4593 5 лет назад
I agree with you 100%. Although I love Melanie. I still do. But in that situation back in December I stayed neutral. I stayed neutral until this was done. But the reason I'm with Mel now is because the more Timothy said, the less I stayed neutral about her. I wasn't a diehard fan of her, but I believed her a bit. And I believed mel. But now I just don't trust Timothy cause the more her stories were being questioned, the more she changed them. That's why I could tell she was lying.
@floraltsanimations3687
@floraltsanimations3687 5 лет назад
I never believed heller in the start.
@sanapomu
@sanapomu 5 лет назад
Floralts animations me neither when I found out about this drama, I didn't believe her (because most of he things here)
@ashpendragon6095
@ashpendragon6095 5 лет назад
Same
@missmadness4162
@missmadness4162 5 лет назад
Not just that, but nobody knew this chick until it happened
@skeletal9348
@skeletal9348 5 лет назад
Same
@menacedog8522
@menacedog8522 5 лет назад
Totally
@captainmappy3959
@captainmappy3959 Год назад
DJ KHALED WE THE BEST MUSIC
@mikkat8613
@mikkat8613 4 года назад
4:03 your choke scared the shit out of me, I hella wanna ask if you're okay even though I know you aren't, I hope you're feeling better
@aubreylea3303
@aubreylea3303 5 лет назад
When I was about eight, I was in second grade, I had a little boy grope me for awhile in front of multiple students or teachers, none of them noticed and I was really scared of making a scene and standing up for my self. I told my mom a month after it happened and it took so long for her to believe me. It's most likely like this because of people like Heller and others. It makes me sick knowing someone would lie about that serious of a crime for attention. I hope she goes to prison for what she did, without probation.
@emely6143
@emely6143 5 лет назад
Aubrey Crigler no one cares loser
@outsetmoon
@outsetmoon 5 лет назад
Woop Woop ???? Like no one cares about your life? Becuase you don't have one. Maybe you should try to find one instead of trying to bring others down.
@aubreylea3303
@aubreylea3303 5 лет назад
Woop Woop I'm sorry but what did I do to tick you off?
@oliakeung7204
@oliakeung7204 5 лет назад
Aubrey Crigler DONT bother with him, some people just have a hard head
@Alyssa-rq6gw
@Alyssa-rq6gw 5 лет назад
Woop Woop Wow do you not realize how painful that kind of experience is and how ashamed one feels when such a thing occurs, especially when your own family doesn't believe you? You should be ashamed of typing those words. I suggest you either don't come back to this comment section again after reading this or apologize for your hurtful actions.
@lachanclavictim7694
@lachanclavictim7694 5 лет назад
Im sorry for what happened to you
@Celeste_bowe
@Celeste_bowe 2 года назад
When I first heard it I was really shocked. I stopped listening to Melanie and just instantly believed Heller. I'm very much a believe the victim not the accused type of person (especially when it involves a celebrity and someone less well known). After a while I started looking through Martinez's posts and nothing mentioned what had happened. I was really confused as to why she wasn't saying anything and when she was, she wasn't standing up for herself. I know that Melanie is a good person so I was very confused as to why she wasn't addressing it. and then I looked further into it and I found some of this stuff out. I was pretty confused as to what was going on but after a couple weeks I started believing Melanie again. I found this video shortly after it came out and it really put things into shape for me. This video fully pulled me onto Melanie's side I'm fully aware that this is is over three years later form when I found it but I thought some people might relate
@mazeeking321
@mazeeking321 2 года назад
I agreed w most of what you said but maybe beware Abt the "too much uncomfy details to be true" thing bc there was a few cases of kidnapping where the victime actually picked out so many details and looked so detached telling them, they did not believe her at first and she ended up helping pinning down a serial r4pist/kidnapper/killer
@snowylove2002
@snowylove2002 Год назад
As an autistic person, I tend to over drop details even when I’m telling the truth, however I think what Piper is trying to say is that liars tend to use more unnecessary details on average
@parasitophobia
@parasitophobia 5 лет назад
I honestly thought the allegation was fake. Like, she didn't have proof and plenty of people said she might be jealous of Melanie. But the "fans" who don't like Melanie anymore kinda sorta made feel bad. If Keller lied about the rape then.. Screw her honestly. Btw, I loved the speedpaint and I also loved the thumbnail. *oh no. An opinion*
@losaunders837
@losaunders837 5 лет назад
PuppyProducts keller hahahahahahahaha
@ishouldhelpthisguy
@ishouldhelpthisguy 5 лет назад
I don't understand why you don't have more subscribers and views. You're a phenomenal artist and you have a good personality in my opinion. I appreciate how you stated the facts and otherwise "suspicious" elements about this whole drama. I personally do not believe Timothy either. Anyways, since you are open to Melanie now, I really do recommend listening to her music and getting to know her a little better. Her music is what people would call "deep" and "real", and has helped numerous people throughout hard times including myself. Plus, she's just such a great person. Anyways (for the second time), do so as you wish and I hope you get recognized for your art!! Oh, and if I sound weird or something it's because it's 4 in the morning right now and I'm actually about to die.
@TheCrowFKAPS
@TheCrowFKAPS 5 лет назад
thank you
@TheCrowFKAPS
@TheCrowFKAPS 5 лет назад
thank you, i had no idea! that makes a few things way clearer. i also have a minor in literature, and i was driving myself crazy trying to draw parallels between her album and her personal life, particularly her family. i'm still getting mixed vibes between birthing addicts and her brief mention of her parents on piggyback though. w/e i'm slowly becoming addicted, it shouldn't be long now
@kenavandersluis3187
@kenavandersluis3187 5 лет назад
Springtrap Mime ikr
@bubbles4897
@bubbles4897 5 лет назад
No offense but she romanticizes mental illness and she never said that the album was inspired by real life experiences
@ishouldhelpthisguy
@ishouldhelpthisguy 5 лет назад
Jayden Hutchinson no offense but she does not romanticize mental illness
@TheBloodCountess13
@TheBloodCountess13 4 года назад
I want to say thank you for making these points. I was never able to listen of any of her music ever since the statement. With the way you put it allowed me to understand that it is okay to go back to listening to her music knowing that she is not a rapist. Thank you for that. Also your art is amazing and I am glad that I found your video!
@amandaarrowsmith8728
@amandaarrowsmith8728 4 года назад
I know this is the worst timing but the speedpaint was very satisfying and the ending result was amazing
@sparksflylove
@sparksflylove 5 лет назад
I’ve gone through a lot of sexual assault and rape personally, and I really hate talking about it. It’s uncomfortable, I don’t like going into detail, and I certainly wouldn’t spend all day every day talking about it. I initially supported Timothy because it’s hard to doubt a rape victim. I followed her on Twitter and I even talked to her a bit, and basically all she wanted to talk about was Melanie. It’s like she was fixated on her and obsessed in a very unhealthy way. It was obvious that she was truly enjoying all of the attention she was getting, and small details in her story were changing. I got really tired of seeing her attack people on Twitter that doubt her and I didn’t want to constantly see all of her uncomfortable tweets about Melanie, which she would post 24/7. I unfollowed her back in January. I assumed that she would calm down about all the rape dialogue after a few weeks, but a few days ago I checked her Twitter again and she’s still talking about it every day. I get that she has BPD but that really has nothing to do with the fact that she’s extremely obsessed with Melanie. She needs to stay away from social media for a bit and get some help.
@zoemae3638
@zoemae3638 5 лет назад
Hillary Bright how could she STILL talk about it?
@sparksflylove
@sparksflylove 5 лет назад
Zoe Mae she’s still talking about it every day, all day long! Check out her Twitter if you don’t believe me lol
@zoemae3638
@zoemae3638 5 лет назад
Hillary Bright I believe you, I’m just shook
@genevievebowman5243
@genevievebowman5243 5 лет назад
If you know anything about the relationships between victims and their abuser - you would understand that often times the obsession is a normal state and is very common amongst victims worldwide.
@sinhalite
@sinhalite 5 лет назад
timothy having an unhealthy obsession with melanie isn't really proof she was lying, considering I was obsessed with my abuser years after the abuse, feeling like I was useless and missing a part of myself without the abuser.
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