Why I RETURNED my 16" M1 Max MacBook after Extensive Tests.. 

@@DJ-fb9vk base model

Smart choice choosing the 14 inch is more portable and manageable.

before i watch the video, had to comment,. You cant afford all the macbook pros :D

@@DJ-fb9vk Base model and if you need more memory, instead you should buy more storage, since it's fast enough for perfect usage of swap (they made another nice video on that if you want to watch).

I appreciate the review but for me I do not travel as much anymore, the bigger screen, better speakers, better battery, better cooling, better performance, being quieter (in that order) are worth a lot and 5 pounds is not that bad, over the years I travelled a lot with heavier laptops.

I agree. Dude talked up the 16 inch for 80% of the video only to say he chose the 14 for size and weight. Come on max tech.

Because it is heavier🤣

@@fitfogey idk, on the one side they do thorough testing, and then they click bait the shit out of the Videos. Weird channel. But not the weirded in the Apple Centric space, as I had to find out looking for MBP Reviews.

@@HoJSimpson yeah their tests and reviews are very thorough and well done but their low substance leak coverage and click bait videos causes me to lose respect in them.

@@DarrinLin Agreed. I might not be the target audience, but sometimes i feel they think we are idiots lol.

😂😂

Well, he still needs to keep either one 16" or one 14" for personal use and he is telling you which one he'll keep and why...

Ha. Reminds me of an old girlfriend who bought 15 purses and walked around with them all for a month, kept the one she liked most and returned the rest.

No, he meant this is not going to be his primary laptop rather the 14" will be.

We are keeping a bunch of them, selling some, gave 1 away.

I miss the A1286 , spilled water on mine 😳.

my Alienware is 9.7 lbs. people having problems with lifting 4.7 pounds in a laptop should go see a doctor. lol

@@BornAgainFarmGirl RIP, the A1286 has been my workhorse for editing forever, lol. Will see how fast the M1 is when I get my order in January. I'm excitedly waiting.

Hope it works perfectly for you !!!!@@ChengTeoh

Same!! I’m upgrading to this 16” M1 Max from my good ole 2010 MBP so I’m sure it’s going to be light as a feather.

I also owned that beast.

With a damaged keyboard (original battery swelled up) I still have the same machine I only plug in once in awhile for whatever reason. The change in weight between the previous 16” or even 15” is inconsequential, and makes no logical sense at all, because if weight counted in under 16 ounces is THAT important, go with a MacBook Air, and find yourself needing the weight again via dongles! 🤣🤣🤣

That was simply the best machine I'd ever owned; worked solidly fox six years and traveled with me for work all over. Yes it's heavy, but, for what I do, the horsepower and battery life is worth the slight inconvenience. I'm so glad they've gone back this way at least as an option. I've been using a 15.6" HP Spectre for the past few years, which hasn't been bad at all, but I'm looking forward to this new beast, and going back to being "bilingual".

@@eafortson me too!!

Hi Cuckoo. That's funny, I was watching your wavetable video 10 min ago, and you are here 😀 Regards

nice to see you here! :)

I purchased the 14 and 16 and kept the 16. Yes the 14 is more portable and easier to type on when on your lap, but when it comes to video editing, the 16 inch for £100 more is a no brainier. I feel I have to have an external monitor when editing where as with the 16 I can get away with using just the screen.

I'm sure you will. There's no such thing as a screen that is too big. Even when I was in military and could see an M16 bullet hole in a little round Target at 50 yards( it's a 22 caliber) I always arranged for at least one very large monitor connected to my laptop. And the last most recent monster system that I built here had 4 22in monitors portrait orientation and a desktop that is 3160 pixels wide. In addition to a shitload of Photoshop stuff, that system did a lot of rendering of Vegas Pro projects. I can't imagine trying to edit a decent-sized video or movie using only a 14 or 16 inch monitor on a laptop. Back in 2007 when I built it, the six hard drives that I split into two RAID fives, almost melted the SLI bridge between the two G-Force cards that drove those monitors. And back then, one monitor was not an option because no one made those nice really wide curved monitors they got now. Having seen these up close I'm confident I could be comfortable editing videos with just one of those monitors. Not that I would have only one of course. LOL I found a 34-in curved 4k monitor from I think was buydig a couple months ago on sale for like $389, which is a necessity with this 13-inch M1 air. Lucky for me, something about the buydig checkout process didn't like me or any of the credit cards that I used, so I never purchased it. And this video here just convinced me to return my 13 in piece of shit. I'm sick and tired of suffering daily with supposedly a state-of-the-art laptop that is by far slowest system that I've ever used. And when you consider that I've been programming PC since 1979, that's saying a lot. It's so slow with that tiny screen, when I get tired I start poking at the screening like it's the Android phone or something. And the system it replaced was a 15 inch Dell with a touchscreen. Anyway, I'm sure that's 16 inch is beautiful. But it doesn't matter how beautiful it is, if you're editing a lot of video, trust me. Treat yourself to a large curved wide monitor. It may sound like a Splurge or a luxury, but once you used it for a little while, I promise you will never go back to a single screen. Cheers

Summary: eyes > back lol

16” all day long. 14” is really too small to be multi tasking more than one app in the screen at a time. Like you said, if this is a secondary device, it might be better but not everyone can afford a $14,000 computer as their primary or even have the option for more than 1 device of this performance level.

@@logicgates7732 14" + extra monitor (24"/36".....) = best pakage

I hate fan noise, then 16

@@NurHasan-gt1tz well ... I wanted to do the same thing but can't find one single monitor that will be a true match for the screens that come one these new MacBook pros. Nothing that I available right now will do it justice. Ideally you need a 5k 120hz monitor, inexistent. Unless you buy the apple display 🤑. You will find a few 3 to 4 yr old models from LG or Dell which are said to be perfect for MBPs, but if you dig deeper like I did... I ended up choosing for the next iMac Pro 27". And will go for a low spec 14" MBP now.

@@NurHasan-gt1tz I cant carry a 24” screen to class with me.

When I tested out the 14 and 16 inch versions the 16 inch one looked so, so, so much better that despite being chunkier I immediately chose it.

I bought the 14 and returned in after a week. It feels like the same size as my 13'' MacBook. I got the 16 and no regrets. It's amazing

@@engineerepixlele2845 But what color should one choose? I still can’t decide!

Choosing 14" for weight, is purely the biggest pussy thing I've heard lately. What's happening to the world?!

@@oOJampisOo I`m a bit partial to silver , grey is drab/dull imo.

I tried both and same as Max found 14” just more handy. Even at home having it on a lap or lying on a couch - 16” was too awkward to use.

@@whitecrowuk575 yeah people should check it out, when working on MacBook i prefer to have it on a table etc, for just browsing web and youtube etc on sofa etc ive got a 12.9 ipad pro for that , whichever machine people go for they both incredible machines

I ordered me a 16 inch MacBook and while I was waiting for about a month and a half for it I went ahead and bought a base model 14 inch and I didn’t like it at first but the more used it the more I fell in love with it so I had to return it Tuesday and I miss it but next Friday I will have my 16 inch and I think I would like it more then the 14 inch but we’ll see.

The fan is not loud on the 14 inch at all and rarely comes on; even under heavy task - this is especially true if you're using native apple apps. The speaker is a bit louder on the 16 inch. But I have an excellent sound system that better than any laptop. Most people don't know that they can change their display scale and use apps like rectangle to make multi-tasking a breeze; even on the 14inch. For longer sessions I connect to my 32in monitor. Long sessions on any laptop hurts my neck. A good monitor for your work station is objective superior in almost every way (at least for me it is... lol). The 16 inch is one of the heavier laptops around. It's not very portability friendly, in a thinner is better design Era (both MacBook pros are too damn thicc- never through I'd say that). I feel like the people who will love their 16inch the most are people who leave their laptops on the desk- at work, then home. With all that being said, I was tempted to get it for the screen alone. I knew I personally didn't need the power boost but the screen was so pretty!

@@WilliamDailyReacts let us know after a couple weeks use if you remember to update us.

then i will wait for Imac M1 max chip, my M1 air still good

Are bhaiya aap yahan 😅

Well, I expected more when I took a peak at your channel. What you have done you could probably do it on a 100 USD smartphone… but anyway… 16“ MBP all maxed out because I produce movies for hollywood!

I completely understand. When I need to go somewhere I look at my Lenovo Gaming laptop, think about its heft, and then 100% of the time grab instead my Surface Pro which is 1/3rd the weight.

Yeah. I’m thinking to get the default speced M1 Pro 14. Seems like for 99.999% of people it will work just as well as the Max 16 unless you’re encoding 4K video or something

hopefully soon!

Fellow Mac gamer here, I was gaming on the 16" Intel but just purchased the 16" M1 Pro. I ended up caving and purchased a gaming laptop as well for my gaming (I play Warzone like twice a month, and Microsoft Flight Simulator occasionally as well. None of those games work on Apple Silicon). Have you had any problems with compatibility as well?

Why not just use game streaming services? I use Stadia and its awesome on Mac

@@airops423 I only play X Plane 11, which supports Metal, and it's been great. I know MSFS 2020 is demanding so that's a tall order. Given GPU prices I'd lean toward an Xbox, though you lose a lot of third party stuff. Really the games you're going to play drive the decision, but you knew that already.

So the form factor is more important than the performance or the screen size?

@@StevenSiew2 The performance only differs IF you're pinning the CPU and GPU at the same time which I guaranty you won't be. I'm talking completely 100% usage. I still haven't heard my 14 max fans editing 4k 10 bit 4:2:2 with grades, graphics, post stabilization and transitions. I'm sure there are too many variables and use cases that I can't speak for everyone but I'm blown away that this much power comes this portable.

​@@StevenSiew2 No computer will be able to check all of the specs, so for me the tradeoff's are worth it. If I need a large screen, I'll dock and plug into my two desktop monitors. And on the go, the weight savings is nice. Since I had the original unibody macbook 13'' in 2008 for university, loved a computer that size, but apple only made the 16inch with a graphics card. Of course this is all theoretical. Once my 14'' M1 Max delivers next week I'll be sure to test and compare to verify my hunch :)

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Same here. I feel disgusting to see the soon-to-be-returned MBP is handled in such a rude way.

Maybe for 4K video editing 1TB is better

Like I said I totally understand it, but I wish they would give us a "High Power" mode on the 14" as well so if you don't mind more battery being used and you're not at thermal capacity you can still get full performance. They don't let you and so because of that I'm calling it "artificial" since they could have given it more power. Either way the machine is great!

@@MaxTechOfficial this will come on the next Monterey beta 💯

that's a beast. merry christmas

I ordered the same specs you have in October but won’t get it until around mid December.. I’m coming from a 2017 i5 iMac with 8gbs of ram 😂 Can’t wait!

Nothing I do requires 64gb but my 32 is coming mid Dec.

I went with 64gb as well and super happy I did. When running chrome, FCPX, premiere and a screen capture program the MacBook Is using 50gb 😳

@@MortgageMadeSimple the more ram you have, the more ram will be used. But. Which process is taking up to 40gb of ram ? That may be a memory leak.

Also the thought of getting a 16" when I get the 27" iMac Pro is weird. I have an issue with screen sizes to the point where I need clear separation of devices in their distinct categories. Desktop is desktop and laptop is laptop.

I had the same experience with M1 MacBook Air. Just way too small that it annoyed me. Sold it and now have my 16” MacBook, and I love the size. It’s so much nicer that the MacBook Air too

Yeah, have lived with 13” for 14 years. Totally over it.

@@sebmonti5904 lmao, facts this is why I ignore so many of their videos

I use it docked when working on it, so size Doesn't matter there as it is connected to a 49 inch ultrawide and a 27 inch in Vertical mode. That's why I also went 14 inch, because throwing it in your backpack is just more convenient imho. I tried my friends 16 inch for a day, and yes it is nice, but I was always a 13 or 14 inch Notebook guy, because I've always used external monitors for my work. So I would always recommend, to just buy whatever fits your use case the best. And for me, that's the 14 inch.

@Gilbert Morales They literally just uploaded a video yesterday why he regretted returning this 16” 😂

😂

apple fanboy probably newer use. RTX laptops )))

@@screpkavpeske2952 I stopped buying laptops with 2 hours battery life.

@@BolusTube you leaving in 2002 or what? 3080 rtx laptop in our days living about 8 hours. Layaway good luck wis useless week laptop but good battery life lol ))))

So many people favor the 14” for portability, but it’s precisely in those situations the 16” will save me in the absence of an external monitor, so I also feel that the 16” is the better choice when on the go! 0.5kg added weight is noticeable but won’t break my back, so it’s worth it for the improved productivity. The 14” makes more sense to me if always hooked up to an external monitor.

@@vals7266 exactly - personally 13 or 14‘ is too small for my kind of professional work

haha, thanks. It definitely feels a lot heavier. BTW the razer 14 was a 16x9 screen I've used one a lot and it sucks. Apples 14.2" 16x10 + the extra menu bar space makes a world of a difference.

@@MaxTechOfficial Which one did you finally got? M1Pro or M1Max? 64 or 32 Ram?

I can let you know soon. When mine gets here that’s the first things I’m doing is rendering my 16 minute 6K projects. Real editing, real fx comps, color grading, titles, etc. I’m ready to see if I can stop lugging my iMac back and forth to the office in its gator case.

@@matthewmoore6756 That would be great! Thank you!

@@xasaintx no worries. should be here around the first of december

Fancy seeing you here mr tv (also yes I absolutely need the 16” as the 14 is just too small of a display for what I use it for especially streaming)

Even the 16" isn't big enough for video editing. We need an external big monitor anyway. So the combo MBP 14" + 27" 4K is the best of both worlds!

I don’t even know how that’s possible

Save money money and. Buy the MacBook Air m1 he’ll be totally happy for Christmas 🎄

@@steve9348 Performance wise? Totaly. The M1 Air beats the 2012 MacBooks by far. But dont forget that the Air only comes with a 13" screen.

@@execuuute2409 still 98% faster then other Laptops out there. I don’t think scream size will be a issue

prob me too

the maxed 14" get's about 4-6 hours of use and it can't get all the graphic power it needed no much different really but the price is extra doesn't worth it I still say if you gonna max out you really need it then go with 16

@@ko-Daegu you're right

@@ko-Daegu Bruv don't make up numbers, Im getting more than 10hrs EDITING on my 14 max. Everyday use is two days before I need a charge.

@@demasistudios no freaking way I didn't find a single one who aggred with your number not even a single reviewer also what do you edit (6k,8k footage, how big)? what tool and what codec ? are you 100% sure it's 10H also he aggred with my numbers in another review where he showed he got around the 6h mark

Yeah I ordered the 16 inch cause I’ll have more screen space to work with. Currently have the 12 inch MacBook that is on lifesupport

this is the config I want to know the most about

that's probably the sweet spot to avoid getting throttled, not have high fans, and still get great performance

I got 14” M1 Max (24 core graphics)MacBook Pro. I love it and it rips through 8k RAW files from my Canon R5. There’s a video for this config by Luke Miani

@@Wildlife__shorts how is the battery life of 24C MBP 14 inch?

@@vakr1 Fantastic in everyday use and fantastic while editing. I also got the 24 core GPU w/32gb's of ram and don't regret one minute of it. I still haven't heard the fans and I'm editing 4k 10 bit 4:2:2 footage.

Why not just save the 1000 and get a MacBook Air at that point?

@@EdgarHernandez-xj5mx Performance

@@kateofone there’s not that much of a difference at all. Not enough to justify 1000

Ports dude. Performance is only one side of the dice.

Interesting. I never heard this one before.

The wait is what bothers Me the most 👀

The girth.

I ditched my old 16 inch due to its size and weight, both. The little bit of extra weight leveraged by the extra size made it uncomfortable to carry with one hand. I love the 14 inch.

Can we answer both? I'd personally like something like a 15" and would even be willing to give up a tiny bit of battery life. The 100 watt-hour battery is incredible, but paired with M1 and the promotion screen it's a bit overkill. 80% of it would prob be enough and might save 1/4 of a pound.

The audio quality.

Unfortunately, that is the only one spec MacBook that we haven't got yet. They delayed it for some reason and it hasn't even shipped when it was supposed to be here 2 weeks ago. I REALLY wan tto test it out but not sure if they will even ship it. They might not be getting enough flawed M1 Max's to bin to 24 GPU cores.

I bought the M1Max, 10-24-16, 1TB SSD for the better performance and future growth in photography/video needs. I had seen most of your videos and ArtisRight videos from a photographers view point. The 24 GBU seems to be a sweet spot on performance and cost and I am sure but will meet my needs coming from a 2012 MBP!! The weight difference is minimal in my view!! Should be here by mid December.

@@MaxTechOfficial probably the yields have been more than expected, crazy that. Yes, hope you get that machine soon, we also want to see that test! Cheers and good luck